* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. OKAY, I'LL CALL THIS MEETING [00:00:01] TO ORDER THE BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE MEETING FOR AUGUST, 2006. AND, UH, WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE ROLL CALL. OKAY. CHAIR BRADLEY IS ABSENT. VICE CHAIR CRAFT HERE. COMMITTEE MEMBER BROWN. ABSENT. COMMITTEE MEMBER JEFFERSON. HERE. MEMBER STEIN HERE. COMMITTEE MEMBER WONG AND COMMITTEE MEMBER WEISS IS ABSENT. GREAT. AND ITEM THREE. DO WE HAVE ANY, UM, UH, OPEN FORUM ITEMS? NO, I DON'T THINK SO. NOPE. PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO. GREAT. AND, UH, WE'LL GO ON TO SECTION FOUR THEN RIGHT INTO SECTION FOUR MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION. UH, 4.1, UH, APPROVAL OF DRAFT MINUTES. UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE A MEETING IN JUNE, SO, UH, CALL FOR APPROVAL OF DRAFT MINUTES FROM OUR JUNE 3RD MEETING. I CALL FOR APPROVAL OF DRAFT MINUTES. DO I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL OF DRAFT MINUTES? WE DIDN'T HAVE A MEETING IN JULY. JULY, SO WE DIDN'T HAVE A MEETING IN JULY. SO, DO I HAVE A CALL FOR MEETING APPROVAL OF DRAFT MINUTES FROM THE JUNE MEETING? MOTION? I WAS NOT HERE. MOTION. OH, I WAS NOT HERE. BUT CAN I MAKE THE MOTION? OH, CAN I MAKE THE MO CAN MAKE THE MOTION? I MO I MOTION TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES FROM JUNE. ANDY, DO YOU? SECOND. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY, WE'LL TAKE A VOTE. I VOTE . YES. CHAIR BRAD. UH, SORRY. VICE CHAIR KRA. AYE. COMMITTEE MEMBER WONG. THANK YOU. UNANIM. THAT WAS, HEY, THERE WE GO. YEAH. THEY HAD BOTH ABSTAIN. THAT WAS QUICK. YEAH. OKAY. I KNOW. I, I WAS . . OKAY. UM, SO, UH, ITEM 4.2, THEY WE'RE RIGHT INTO IT. THE, UH, TREE ACTION PERMIT APPEAL FOR 7 0 6 CATALINA DRIVE. UM, UH, SO, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDS WE HEAR THE APPEAL FROM THE BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE. UM, JOE PRIME, DO YOU WANNA LEAD THIS? OKAY. I CAN JUST GIVE A INTRODUCTION. UM, GREAT. MR. WILLIAMS APPLIED FOR A TREE ACTION PERMIT. UM, STAFF INSPECTED THE TREE ON APRIL 7TH, 2026. IT'S A LARGE, UH, THE VALLEY OAK TREE, UM, IN HIS BACKYARD AT 7 0 6 CATALINA DRIVE. UH, STAFF INSPECTED THE TREE WENT THROUGH THEIR NORMAL INSPECTION PROTOCOLS, APPLIED WHAT THEY FOUND TO THE TREE ORDINANCE AND CANNOT FIND, UM, ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE REMOVAL OF THE TREE. UM, SO THE PROCESS IS THAT THE RESIDENT CAN THEN APPEAL THE CITY'S DECISION AND THAT APPEAL COMES TO THIS BODY. UH, YOU, I BELIEVE EVERYBODY WAS, UM, PROVIDED THE INFORMATION, WAS HOPEFULLY ABLE TO REVIEW EVERYTHING THAT THE CITY HAD. UM, AND THEN YOU CAN HEAR MR. WILLIAMS, UM, APPEAL TONIGHT. AND THEN YOU'LL BE ABLE TO, UH, TALK AMONGST ONE ANOTHER AND, UH, COME UP WITH A DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU SUPPORT OR, UH, SUPPORT THE REMOVAL OR WANT TO UPHOLD THE CITY'S DECISION TO DENY THE PERMIT. OKAY. CHANGE IT. DO YOU WANNA HEAR FROM THE SURE. DO YOU WANT HEAR FROM OR DO WE WANNA GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC COMMENT? FIRST PROCESS, UH, LET'S HEAR FROM THE HOMEOWNER, THEN WE'LL ASK IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AND THAT, THAT POINT IN TIME YOU CAN READ WHAT PUBLIC COMMENT HAS BEEN PROVIDED. SURE. AND YOU CAN YEAH. ANYWHERE YOU WANT OR I ASK YOU SOMETHING. GREAT. SURE. WE ALL HAD A CHANCE TO LEAVE THE HOUSE. YES. THANK YOU. SO I'M GONNA HAVE MICROPHONE OR JUST SO THAT MICROPHONE, IT SHOULD, SHOULD AUTOMATICALLY TURN, TURN ONM. SORRY. NO, IT'S OUR FAULT. WE'LL TELL YOU TO GO . SORRY. . OKAY. SO, UM, WHAT I'M PROVIDING YOU IS A COPY OF THE APPEAL LETTER THAT I SUBMITTED, [00:05:01] UH, UH, TO REQUEST A MEETING WITH THE BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE. UM, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I WANT TO THANK YOU. I DO APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK MY CASE. UM, UH, SO WHAT I WANNA SHARE IS, UM, I PROVI PROVIDE A NARRATIVE THAT I WANT TO SPEAK TO YOU AND, AND THEN I'D BE HAPPY TO GO IN MORE DEPTH. UM, ELK TWE IN QUESTION IS SITUATED IN A DANGEROUSLY CLOSE PROXIMITY TO MY HOUSE IS EX EXPANSIVE ROOT SYSTEM IS ALREADY BEGUN. LIFTING THE CRACKING AND CRACKING THE SURROUNDING HARDSCAPE. LEFT UNADDRESSED. THE ROOT INTRUSION POSES A SERIOUS RISK TO FOUNDATION DAMAGE TO MY HOME, WHICH COULD RESOLVE COSTLY STRUCTURAL REPAIRS. OVERHANGING LIMBS, BRANCHES HAVE ALSO CAUSED DIRECT DAMAGE TO THE ROOF AND GUTTERS WITH FALLING DEBRIS, CLOGGING AND DAMAGING THE GUTTER SYSTEM AND FURTHER COMPOUNDING MY PROPERTY, STRUCTURAL VULNERABILITIES. IN ADDITION, THE TREE'S DENSE CANOPY BLOCKS SUNLIGHT FROM ETCHING THE BACKYARD, PREVENTING MY EXISTING VEGETATION FROM RECEIVING ADEQUATE LIGHT TO GROW AND THRIVE WHILE FALLING. BRANCHES HAVE ALREADY DAMAGED THE REAR FENCE, WHICH HAS BEEN REPLACED, AS YOU CAN SEE IN ONE OF THE PICTURES, NECESSITATING A FULL REPLACEMENT. AS I SAID, THESE RECURRING DOCUMENTED DAMAGES ALSO PLACE ME AT RISK OF LOSING COVERAGE AS MY INSURANCE COMPANY MAY DEEM THE TREE AS DAMAGING. UH, THIS DAMAGE HISTORY AS UNACCEPTABLE LIABILITY AND DECLINED THE RENEWAL PROCESS FOR MY POLICY. GIVEN COMMUTE OF ONGOING RISKS TO MY HOUSE FOUNDATION, ROOF GUTTERS, LANDSCAPING FENCING, AND INSURABILITY. I BELIEVE REMOVAL OF THE OAK TREE IS NECESS NECESSARY AND A RESPONSIBLE MEASURE TO PROTECT THE PROPERTY. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, AND I'M JUMPING AHEAD 'CAUSE THE, THE PUBLIC COMMENT WAS ATTACHED TO THE ENGINE AND I WAS ABLE TO SEE IT. UH, THE PICTURE THAT WAS ATTACHED IS A BEAUTIFUL PICTURE OF THE TREE. UH, IT IS A PICTURE THAT'S TAKEN BY A REALTOR, AND IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH REALTORS, THEY'RE ABLE TO GET AMAZING ANGLES TO SHOW HOW BEAUTIFUL SOMETHING IS WITHOUT THE REALITY OF THE IMPACT OF, OF THE TREE. I HAVE PROVIDED YOU VERY RECENT, WITHIN THE LAST 24 HOURS, PICTURES OF WHAT THE TREE LOOKS LIKE IN MY BACKYARD. THE TREE IS COVERING MY FULL BACKYARD. NOTHING CAN GROW. THE GRASS IS DYING BECAUSE IT'S NOT BEING ABLE TO GET THE SUNLIGHT AS NEEDS. UM, I HAVE TRIED TO ADD, UH, FRUIT TREES ALONG BOTH SIDE FENCES WITH THE, THE, UH, CITY CAME AND SAW THEY'RE NOT GROWING BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SUNLIGHT. I PLANTED GRAPEVINES IN MY FRONT YARD. I BELIEVE IN VEGETATION. I BELIEVE IN PLANTS. THIS TREES IS A BEAUTIFUL TREE. IT'S JUST NOT BEAUTIFUL. MY BACKYARD'S SO CLOSE TO MY HOUSE. IF IT WAS IN A PARK OR SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE OTHERS CAN ENJOY IT, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT AND WALK. MY CHILDREN WHO ATTEND THE LIVERMORE SCHOOLS BUY IT 'CAUSE THEY LOVE TREES AS WELL. BUT AGAIN, WHEN IT'S ON A PROPERTY THAT IS RISKING THE DAMAGE AND THE COSTLY IMPACTS OF MY OWN HOME AND MY FINANCES, IT IS OF CONCERN TO ME. UM, I HOPE THAT THE, THE APPEAL PROCESS IS CONSIDERED. I HOPE I'M ABLE TO REMOVE THE TREE SO THAT THE REMAINING VEGETATION, INCLUDING MULTIPLE TREES IN MY BACKYARD AT THIS MOMENT, CAN THRIVE AND HOPEFULLY BE A BEAUTIFUL ENVIRONMENT FOR MY NEIGHBORS AS WELL, UH, WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE TREE. UM, I APPRECIATE CONSIDERATION AND I WOULD, UH, OPEN TO ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMITTEE MAY HAVE FOR ME. ANY QUESTIONS LAST TIME? IT WAS PRUNED, UH, RIGHT BEFORE I MOVED IN, WHICH WAS TWO YEARS AGO. OKAY. AND, UM, YOU HAVE, UM, THIS HAS YOUR, UH, HOME INSURANCE IN . I, IT'S IN JEOPARDY BECAUSE WHEN I PURCHASED THE HOME, WHICH I WAS UNAWARE OF, AND IT WASN'T SHARED WITH ME BY THE REALTOR, UM, IT TOOK ME MULTIPLE TRIES TO FIND AN INSURANCE GROUP THAT WOULD INSURE, UH, THE HOME BECAUSE OF HOW THE TREE OVERHUNG OVER THE ROOF LINE. UH, FORTUNATELY I WAS ABLE TO FIND COMPANY, UM, THAT WOULD INSURE ME. UM, AS I'M, I'M SURE ALL OF YOU KNOW, MANY INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE LEAVING CALIFORNIA DUE TO MANY RISKS. UM, MOSTLY I THINK IT'S DUE TO FIRES THAT ARE HAPPENING, UNFORTUNATELY ACROSS, UP AND DOWN CALIFORNIA. BUT THAT WAS A CONCERN AT THE TIME, UM, AND I'M WORRIED THAT THAT COULD CONTINUE TO BE A CONCERN MOVING FORWARD. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? WHAT'S THE NORMAL, WHAT'S THE NORMAL PROCESS? UM, THEN YOU COULD, UH, SO THE CITY, UH, IF THE CITY WERE ALLOW A TREE OF THIS SIZE, THEY WOULD PROBABLY REQUIRE TWO 15 GALLON TREES TO BE PLANTED ON THE PROPERTY. UM, BUT THAT'S UP TO THE COMMITTEE TO DECIDE. UM, I THINK IT'S BEEN RECENT THAT WE DID HAVE A SITUATION SIMILAR TO THIS AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE REPLANT REQUIREMENTS THAT THE COMMITTEE HAD COME UP WITH, BUT, UM, I THINK THERE [00:10:01] WAS WHERE THEY DONATED TO THE MM-HMM . URBAN FORESTRY FUND TO ALLOW TREES TO BE PLANTED IN MORE SUITABLE AREAS. UM, AND THEN THE COMMITTEE'S WISH WAS TO HAVE NATIVE TREES PLANTED WITH THOSE FUNDS. THANK YOU. HAVE A, A PUBLIC COMMENT MAILED INTO IT OR, OR DELIVERED TO US. SO, UM, I'LL TRY TO READ THAT INTO THE RECORD, BUT MEMORY KIND OF SMALLER. SHOULD RUN MY GLASSES ON. UM, UH, SO THIS IS, UH, FROM A, THE NEIGHBORS. SO COMMITTEE ENCOURAGE YOU TO UPHOLD, PERMIT TO REMOVE VALUE OF TREE, UM, DRIVE. WE LIVE NEXT DOOR TO THIS TREE. APPROXIMATELY 20 FEET AWAY FROM OUR HOUSE FROM LAST CONGESTED WAS ONE OF THE MAIN FACTORS THAT DREW US TO OUR HOME AND A TREE HUNDREDS ECOSYSTEM BY SIGN PROPERTY TO THREE CHILDREN. THIS, THIS 24 ORDERING THIS LOCK HAVE TURNED OVER IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS. THIS TRUE WE ON OUR HOMES. SO ESPECIALLY WHEN THIS HARD RISK, HEALTHY, SAFE AND NOT CRITERIA TO ONE RIGHT HERE, UM, UH, WE WANT TO STRESS THAT HISTORY AND VALUE. IT'S NOT THE ONLY TREE IN OUR VALUE. UH, ANY OF THESE ARE LARGE, UH, ALLOWING DEATH PRECEDENT THAT COULD LEAD TO OTHERS. OTHER ESTABLISHMENT PERSON WE TALK VOTE. YEAH, YOU TALK PUBLICLY OUT. TALK ABOUT PLEASE. YES. NILE ACTUALLY ALL LIKELIHOOD THE HOUSE AND ALL LIKELIHOOD IT NOT THE HOUSE, THE VALUE IS FOUR TO SIX YEARS. THIS ONE YEARS, THESE HERITAGE TREES ARE A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE DUTY OF NOT FIRE HAZARD. THESE TREES IN GENERAL ARE NOT FIRE HAZARD PORTIONS OF IT. ALSO LIGHT TO PENETRATE. THAT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT ALL LIKELIHOOD. THE REPAIR OF THE PATIO IS LESS. REMOVAL AND HISTORY, AGAIN, PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WAS THERE [00:15:12] PORTION, PARTICULARLY BASED UPON THE CONFIDENCE? NO, I CERTAINLY SAW, UH, SEVERAL VALUES VERY GIVEN THE PROPERTY, BUT, UM, IT WAS PRETTY MOTIVATION I WOULD SUGGEST BASED ON TREE CREWING, THE S CONFIRM THEM SUCH YOU ARE, UM, BRING THEM BACK FROM THE, UH, HOUSE. AND I ACTUALLY LITERAL ON TOP THAT LIVING HERITAGE TREE IN THE NAME OF , UM, APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN BUILT AROUND THESE TREES. SO, UM, I, I WOULD ENCOURAGE DID NOT TO, TO GO ALONG WITH THE CITY PROPERTY, PROPERTY LEANING TOWARDS RIGHTS. I, I DO AGREE THAT, UM, IT'S, IT'S A FAIR UNCERTAINTY. THERE ARE SEVERAL PROPERTIES IN HELP, UH, VEST INTEREST. I'VE GOT LARGE TREES, IT'S MY PROPERTY. I WANNA BE ABLE TO MAKE YOU KIND OF, THERE, I HAVE TO INVEST COMMENT AS PART OF THE PROPERTY. I THINK THAT'S PART OF ONE'S RESPONSIBILITY AND KNOWLEDGE. I UNDERSTAND THAT THINGS ALWAYS IS BETTER IN THEORY THAN THEY DO IN , BUT UM, PART OF IT IS IN FRONT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND ALSO, UM, UNDERSTANDING, MAKE A MOTION OF, UM, DENYING OR APPROVING THE CITY'S DECISION. MM-HMM . I MAKE A MOTION. YOU NEED TO MAKE A MOTION IF IT'S APPROVED. I MOVE COMMITTEE SUPPORT HERE. OKAY. GONNA TAKE A VOTE. VICE CHAIR. KRAFT? [00:20:01] YES. COMMITTEE MEMBER. JEFFERSON. COMMITTEE MEMBER STEIN. A COMMITTEE MEMBER. WALL I SEAT. OKAY, SO WE HAVE THREE. SO WE HAVE THREE AS VOTES ON THE MOTION. SO THE, THE COMMITTEE IS UPHOLDING CITY'S ADDITION TO THE CITY'S DECISION TO DENY THE REMOVAL. I GET COPY. YES, WE WILL. YEAH, SURE. I WANNA THANK YOU. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, ALRIGHT, WELL, UH, ITEM, UH, 4.3 BOARD TALK COMMITTEE IS THAT HAVE MEMBERS COMMITTEE OUTSIDE? MM-HMM. OH, AWESOME. THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE AD HOC COMMITTEE. GREAT. ONE OF US MISSING CATS IS, UM, I, I THINK I'VE HANDED OUT FIVE FIVE TO MY NEIGHBORS. TWO OF THEM ARE SELLING THEIR HOUSE LATER THIS SUMMER. NO, NO. I WAS LIKE, OH, YOUR HOUSE LOOKS, YOUR HOUSE LOOKS BEAUTIFUL THIS SUMMER. AND I WANTED TO COMMENT ON IT AND THEY SAID THANK YOU. WE'RE, WE'RE ABOUT TO SELL, SO THAT'S WHY IT'S LOOKING SO GOOD. OH, HAND OUT THE NUMBERS. YEAH, SO THEY SAID WE'D LIKE THAT, BUT UNLESS YOU CAN GET IT PRETTY SOON THAT WAY UP THE VALUE. SORRY. SO WE'RE TRYING, I'M REALLY TRYING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I WALKING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD REALITY, YOU KNOW, CONTACT INFORM. GREAT. I DID HAVE, I DID LIKE, YOU KNOW, I, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY HARD THAT SPEAKS A LOT ABOUT A SMALL PRESIDENT THAT CONTINUES TO MAKE SETTING EXAMPLE, I ALSO HANDED OUT, I, THERE'S A GROUP OF A NON-PROFIT CURRENTLY WE HAVE THREE IFICATION FOR DOCUMENTS AND ONE, ONE, I THINK THERE'S A ON THE SECOND ONE. ONE DOCUMENT ON THE ALSO MADE THE PRESENTATION COUNCIL, UH, INCURRING THEM TO, UM, NOMINATE MEMBERS, ESPECIALLY IN SPRINGTOWN, UM, NORTH OF THE FREEWAY. UM, [00:25:02] BUT, UM, I DIDN'T, I DON'T BELIEVE WILLING HAS BEEN NOMINATED YET OR HAVE TO. THAT'S A WIDE DISPERSAL OF NOMINEES. CAN WE, MY SON AND I GO OFF QUITE HIKE, GOT MY QUESTIONS OVER IN SPRING TOWN. SO YEAH, AS WE DRIVE OVER IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, QUITE A FEW BEAUTIFUL HOUSES THAT YOU YEAH, AND THAT'S, YEAH. HOW ABOUT THE IDEA? CAN WE ? UH, I CAN LOOK INTO IT. WE CAN ASK. THAT'S GOOD. FOR SURE. . OH, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS TOO. . THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. OH, THE CITY HAS BEEN PUSHING IT OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA QUITE A BIT, SO. AWESOME. YEAH. SO LIKE IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY KIND OF, I, I KNOW THAT I THOUGHT THAT THEY HAD PICKED, LET ME SEE. HMM. I THINK THEY, I COULD FIND THE DATES. YEAH, I THOUGHT SHE WAS COMMUNICATE. UH, MARISSA WAS COMMUNICATING WITH KAT ABOUT THAT. MM-HMM . AUGUST 27TH. OH, 27TH. YES. . SEE THERE WAS A, UM, SEVEN VOLUNTEER. HERE'S THE DATES. SO WE'RE, SO TOMORROW THE 27TH AND THE 10TH? YEAH. FOR KAT, I THINK IT WAS THE, OH, KAT'S THERE ON ALL THOSE MM-HMM . SEE THE MARKET. SO YES, KAT SAID, SEE BELOW AND SHE PUT IN THOSE DATES. I WONDER IF THOSE ARE THE DATES SHE WAS AVAILABLE BECAUSE MARISSA JUST HAS UPCOMING EVENTS. AUGUST 27TH BC TABLE FARMER'S MARKET. SO I THINK THOSE WERE HER AVAILABLE. OH, GOT IT. OKAY. SO IF THERE'S ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS, THEN WE ONE MORE. YEAH, THAT'S 4.3. 4.4. UM, UH, UH, PROVIDE FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS OUT FOR LANDSCAPES FOR, UM, UH, FOUR THAT YES. KAT DID PROVIDE, UH, DESIGN. DID, UH, THE COMMITTEE, WAS THE COMMITTEE ABLE TO SEE IT? WAS IT INCLUDED IN THE PACKET? OKAY. AND SIX AREA DOESN'T GET ANY. YEAH, THERE'S A, THERE'S A HOSE SPIGOT THERE AND THEN ACROSS THE PARKING LOT IS, THERE'S NO IRRIGATION THERE. SO SUCCULENT FOR . YEAH. SHE PROVIDED A PLAN. I WAS HOPING YOU GUYS WOULD BE ABLE TO, OH, IT WAS IN THE PACKET, I BELIEVE. MM-HMM . OKAY. DO YOU WANNA A PACKET? DO YOU WANNA SEE [00:30:01] IT? UM, BECAUSE I REALLY CRAZY THAT AREA. ACTUALLY FIND WHERE THAT AREA, THE 1 41. YEAH. NORTH LIVERMORE. NO, THIS IS THE ONE THAT IF IT'S JUST WEST TO THE LIVERMORE UNDERPASS, IT'S THAT STREET UP ABOVE. YES. YEAH. AND THE CITY OWNS THAT PARCEL THERE AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO A, A PROJECT TO YES. ACROSS FROM IT. YEAH. I HAVE MAPS. SURE. THAT'S WHERE I KNOW I WAS, I I WAS JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHERE. YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. SORRY. IT'S RIGHT RIGHT HERE. SO IT'S THIS STRIP, IT'S THIS POCKET. OH, SO IT'S THIS PARK? YEAH. OH, THAT. SO THE CITY OWNS THIS PARCEL. SO HERE, THERE'S A HOUSING HERE. THAT'S THE S SCRIPTURE UNDERNEATH THE THANKS JOE. HOW GOOD THAT THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT RATHER THAN JUST . YEAH. AND I'M ASSUMING THAT THE CLOSEST TO BUILDING YEAH. BASED ON WHAT PLANT. YEAH. I THINK WHO IS ANYTHING MM-HMM . WAY BETTER THAN THIS. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COPY IN HERE ACTUALLY. YEAH, THAT'S GREAT. YEAH. YOU KNOW, AND PICK UP SAL FLOWERS AROUND STA SOUNDS LIKE SOMEBODY CAME IN. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT TOO. NOBODY'S THERE. YEAH, I CHECKED THE MEN'S RESTROOM. AND IT'S LOCKED, RIGHT? NO, IT'S OPEN, BUT THERE'S NO ONE IN THERE. THE DOORS, THOSE DOORS ARE OPEN IN THE BACK TO GET INTO THE BUILDING. OH, THEY SHOULD BE LOCKED. YEAH. OKAY. BUT THE MEN'S RESTROOM WAS OPEN. OH, OKAY. YEAH, THE DOOR WAS CLOSED BUT IT WASN'T LOCKED. YEAH, I THINK IT WAS, YEAH, SHE HAS SOME, YEAH, SHE HAS SOME NOTES. FINE. OH, I THINK WE MOVE. JUST DID THEY NEED TO VOTE ON THAT? UH, NO, I DON'T THINK THEY NEED TO VOTE. UM, WE CAN FORWARD IT. AND UM, I THINK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE HAD WAS, DOES THE COMMITTEE HAVE AN INTEREST IN HOSTING A COMMUNITY SERVICE DAY PROJECT TO IMPLEMENT THIS PLANTING PLAN? UH, WHERE, UM, SERVICE DAY FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE DAY, IT'S GONNA BE SEPTEMBER 19TH. UM, WHAT KIND OF PRE IS THERE GONNA BE ANY PREPARATION? THERE'LL BE SOME SITE PREPARATION. THIS WILL BASICALLY BE PLANTING, EVERYTHING WILL BE ON SITE FOR YOU. UH, BARK WILL BE ON SITE. UM, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE THE IRRIGATION, UH, PRETTY MUCH INSTALLED AND READY TO GO IN THE ONE SECTION. THE OTHER SECTION, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S GONNA BE ANY HAND WATERING. UM, BUT WE CAN GET ALL, WE'LL GET ALL THE MATERIALS THERE. UH, WE JUST NEED BASICALLY A PROJECT LEADER QUESTION. YEAH. IS IT ACTUALLY, NO. WE BELIEVE THEY'RE ACTUALLY PLANTERS THAT THE ASPHALT THAT'S NOT ON TOP OF THE ASPHALT, WE WILL WE'LL VERIFY THAT. THAT'S A GOOD, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. CORRECT. YEAH. ONE, ONE OF THE, MY EXPERIENCE OVER HERE [00:35:01] WASN'T, IF IT'S HAD NOT BEEN WATER, KNOW THAT THERE'S NO WATER IN HERE. RIGHT. BUT YOU'VE GOTTA WATER IN, IN ORDER TO BE, I I IF YOU'RE GONNA DO THIS AGAIN, IT'D BE REALLY NICE IN ORDER TO BE REALLY NEAT. MAYBE SOME MULCHING AND YOU KNOW, PASS THAT. SURE. AND THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE BRINGING IT TO THE COMMITTEE. LIKE IF THIS IS A PROJECT THAT THE COMMITTEE WANTS TO NOT ONLY HOST BUT ALSO DO THE PREP WORK, LIKE ALSO ORG THAT WOULD BE CORRECT. ORGANIZE THE PREP WORK AND YEAH. IF WE COULD GET OUT THERE AHEAD OF TIME, MAKE SURE THAT IT'S OKAY. OKAY. UH, SO WE WOULD JUST BASICALLY THE COMMITTEE AND IF THIS PART OF IT, IF WE, WE GO AHEAD AND THE COMMITTEE ACCEPTS THIS PLAN. THE CITY CAN START, UM, YOU KNOW, PLANNING TO PURCHASE AND PUTTING IN ORDERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IF WE WANNA PUMP THE PROJECT PORTION OF THIS ITEM TO THE SEPTEMBER AGENDA, UH, TO ALLOW ANN KAT AND TOM TO SEE IF THEY WANT TO ALSO VOLUNTEER TO TAKE ON THIS PROJECT. AND THEN, UH, BUT BASICALLY AT THAT POINT WE WOULD WANT A COMMITMENT FROM THE COMMITTEE THAT YES, WE WILL BASICALLY TAKE THIS PROJECT ON CITY WILL PROVIDE ALL THE MATERIALS AND THEN ONE OF ONE LEAD IT THAT DAY, BUT ALSO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THE PREPPING IS DONE. HAND WATERING ISS DONE, IT'S SOFTENED UP. UM, THINGS LIKE THAT. SEPTEMBER 19TH, DO YOU THINK MEETING IS THAT? IS THAT IS THE SEPTEMBER MEETING. IF THE COMMITTEE FEELS THEY CAN GET A COMMITMENT TONIGHT? I'M, I'M FINE WITH MOVING FORWARD IF THE COMMITTEE WANTS TO TAKE ON A PROJECT. BUT AGAIN, IT'S, UH, WHAT I WANT TO DO IS THE CITY HAS A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT STAFF'S GONNA BE FOCUSING ON. UM, SO THIS IS, THIS IS ONE PROJECT THAT WE'RE PRESENTING TO THE COMMITTEE TO SEE IF THEY WANT TO TAKE THE BULLS BY THE HORN AND REALLY HANDLE. SO, UM, BUT IF THERE'S COMMITMENT HERE TONIGHT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH, WITH MAKING THIS PROJECT. I WOULD YES. ANDY YOU HAD A QUESTION? YEAH, I HAD A QUESTION. SO IT'S GONNA HAPPEN HERE. UH, THEY'LL EITHER BE REMOVED OR REPLACED AND RE YEAH, I WAS JUST CLEANED UP. IT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD TO TO KNOW WHAT JOHN'S COMMENT, WHETHER THERE'S NOT AS FAULT UNDERNEATH . YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL I'M ASSUMING YEAH. CAVEAT ASSUMING RIGHT, RIGHT. SO ASPHALT, WELL, UH, WE CAN LOAN OUT YOU GUYS OUT SOME JACKHAMMERS. . YEAH. AND BACKHOE SOME OF THOSE TRAIN TELL DIFFERENCE TRAIN CROW SOME BIG LONG TRAIN BARS. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. MY QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU TELL THE DIFFERENCE? IT THE UN WATERED LIVERMORE SOIL . YEAH, SAME THING RIGHT BY THE COLOR. I GUESS ONE SPARKS ONE. YEAH. . THAT'S IT. OKAY. YEAH, YEAH. THERE YOU GO. GREAT. WE'RE GOOD MINUTE TO DO IT. WE'LL BRING IT UP ON, SO WE'LL BRING THAT UP AGAIN ON THE NEXT SEPTEMBER MEETING THOUGH. WE'LL BRING IT FORWARD ON THE SEPTEMBER. YEAH. STAFF WILL PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON ASPHALT AND UH, JUST WHERE WE ARE WITH LEAD PRODUCTS AND, AND WHATNOT. SO. WELL THERE'S, THERE'S A WALL ON THERE. YEAH. MATERIALS GET GOT A LOT ON IT. YEAH. OKAY. PERFECT. UM, THAT'S 4.4. AND ITEM NUMBER FIVE. UH, COMMITTEE REPORTS MATTERS INITIATED BY STAFF COMMITTEE. ANYTHING FOR NEXT SEPTEMBER? DO WE KNOW? OH, UH, LET'S SEE. SORRY. LET ME CHECK. OKAY, [00:40:01] A QUESTION. UH, WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT, BUT I BELIEVE THERE WAS, UH, THERE IS AN OPTION TO DO THAT FEEDBACK. OKAY. WRITE THAT DOWN. OKAY. SO FOR SEPTEMBER, WE HAVE SO FAR JOE, UM, RECEIVED A PRESENTATION FROM STAFF ON THE CITY'S CURRENT DEFINITION OF CALIFORNIA NATIVE TREES. IS THAT STILL GONNA BE SEPTEMBER OR MOVE THAT, UH, THAT'LL PROBABLY BE MOVED. OKAY. UM, SO WE HAVE LIBRARY OF PLANTS PROJECT AT THE CIVIC CENTER LIBRARY RECEIVE A PRESENTATION FROM COMMITTEE MEMBER WEISS ON SHEET MULCHING AND APPOINT AN AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR ADOPT A SPOT PROGRAM. WHO DO LIBRARY. I HAVE JUST LIBRARY PLANT PROJECT. I DON'T HAVE IT AS A PRESENTATION. UM, WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT ANN HAD BROUGHT UP? THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. OKAY. YEAH, I DON'T HAVE ANY NAME ASSIGNED TO THAT ONE. OKAY, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT ONE. THAT MIGHT BE ONE THAT WAS JUST KIND OF FLOATING AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IT ACTUALLY GOT ASSIGNED TO SEPTEMBER, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT. DID YOU MENTION, DID YOU MENTION THAT IS NOT IN THERE? THAT BE OKAY. MARK, ONE LAST PUSH OUT THERE. BANGING PEOPLE. . OKAY. I ADDED THAT ONE BACK IN, BACK IN JUNE. I DID A PRESENTATION ADOPT SPA ABOUT IT. SO, UM, I REMEMBER, UM, IN THAT SAME CONVERSATION, I, I, BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING A, I, UH, NO, I THINK THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, THE PURPOSE OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE IS TO DO MORE RESEARCH ON THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS AND ACTUALLY COME UP WITH A PROPOSAL, UH, NOT JUST TO HAVE ONE, BUT WHAT ARE THE DETAILS OF THAT, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. AND THEN BECAUSE WE DIDN'T MEET IN JULY AND THEN WE HAD THE TREE APPEAL THIS MONTH, UM, WE DECIDED TO APPOINT THE AD HOC COMMITTEE IN SEPTEMBER, WHICH MIGHT WORK BETTER FOR EVERYBODY TO BE HERE. THE IDEA BETWEEN ANOTHER, YEAH. AND AS A AD HOC COMMITTEE CAN DESIGN A FORMAL PROPOSAL TO PRESENT TO THE CITY, UM, ON EXACTLY WHAT THE PROGRAM WOULD LOOK LIKE. BUT DISTRICT AD HOC COMMITTEES LAST OR WHAT ARE, WHAT TIME LIMIT? I THINK IT'S ONE YEAR OR WHEN THE ACTUAL ITEM IS COMPLETED. AND THEN, UH, THAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE AND THE SUBCOMMITTEES. SO WE WENT WITH AD HOC COMMITTEES, WE'RE MORE FITTING FOR THIS GROUP. COOL. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. NO OTHER ITEMS. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER SIX. GONNA GO AHEAD AND WHAT TIME? THE TIME AND SIX 50. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.