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[1. CALL TO ORDER]
THE, UH, MAY 26TH MEETING TO ORDER.ALAN, CAN YOU PLEASE TAKE THE ROLL CALL? YES, MA'AM.
WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, IF YOU CAN JUST ANSWER I TO INDICATE THAT YOU ARE PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER SANE IS ABSENT FOR THE RECORD.
VICE CHAIR HURST HERE AND CHAIR CUSTODIO IS ABSENT FOR THE RECORD.
[3.OPEN FORUM ]
TO THE OPEN FORUM.UM, HAS ANY PUBLIC COMMENT BEEN RECEIVED? YES, WE'VE RECEIVED TWO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UH, OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS GOING TO BE BARBARA SOLES.
UH, DO YOU REMEMBER HOW TO PRESS THE, OKAY.
UH, I'M JUST HERE TO BRING THE CENTENNIAL SCULPTURE PROJECT BACK IN FRONT OF YOU.
UH, AGAIN, I'M GONNA KEEP PESTERING YOU UNTIL
UM, I WANTED TO JUST REMIND YOU THAT, UM, WHAT WE WANNA DO IS REPLACE THIS, THE TOTEM POLE, NOT START SOMETHING NEW, NOT PUT IT IN A DIFFERENT PLACE, BUT REPLACE IT WITH SOMETHING THAT'S MORE APPROPRIATE FOR LIVERMORE.
AND THAT WILL BE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO CALL A CENTENNIAL SCULPTURE.
IT WILL STILL BE TALL, IT WILL STILL BE PARTLY ROUNDED, BUT IT WILL NOT BE A TOTEM POLE.
UM, IT WILL HAVE THREE CARVED SIDES, UH, ONE REPRESENTING OUR COWBOY LEGACY, ONE REPRESENTING LIVERMORE AND ITS, ITS HISTORY.
AND THE OTHER SIDE IS SOMEWHAT, UM, SOMEWHAT NATIVE AMERICA, BUT NOT, NOT TOTALLY.
UH, IT'S GOT SOME, SOME INTERESTING DIFFERENT, UM, UH, THE DEPOT AND THINGS LIKE THAT ON IT.
SO I WANNA REMIND YOU THAT, UM, THE HER, I'M FROM THE LIVERMORE HERITAGE GUILD.
THIS IS A HERITAGE GUILD PROJECT, UM, WITH SOME VOLUNTEER HELP, UH, SPECIFICALLY FROM THIS F THE FELLOW WHO'S GOING TO FOLLOW ME, WHO IS OUR WOOD CARVER.
UM, I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT IT'S, UH, THIS PROJECT IS TOTALLY FUNDED BY THE HERITAGE GUILD.
THE ONLY THING WE'RE ASKING OF THE CITY IS THAT THEY INSTALL IT AND, AND MAKE A BASE FOR IT IN CENTENNIAL PARK.
SO, UM, WE HAVE THE, WE HAVE THE WOOD, WE HAVE THE BIG LOG, AND WE HAVE A CARVER AND WE HAVE A PLAN.
AND WE'D LOVE TO HAVE THIS HAPPEN QUICKLY FOR MULTIPLE REASONS, PARTLY BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA TAKE A LONG TIME TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
WE REALLY HOPE THAT YOU COULD FIND SOME WAY TO MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD.
UH, AND VERY QUICKLY, THANK YOU.
UM, UH, THE MICROPHONES DON'T WORK WELL AT THE SAME TIME.
ALRIGHT, LET'S GET THIS ANOTHER SHOT.
UH, OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS KEN MORGAN.
UH, MR. MORGAN, IF YOU WANNA HEAD TO THE PODIUM.
UM, THIS PROJECT ACTUALLY STARTED A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND I THOUGHT I ERECTED A LARGE HURDLE THAT WE NEEDED TO GET A LARGE PIECE OF WOOD AND A PLACE TO PUT IT IN.
AND, UM, NANCY AND, UH, BARBARA, LITERALLY WITHIN A WEEK WERE READY TO GO.
UM, SO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF STARTS AND STOPS.
SHE SAYS, HEY, I GOT YOUR WOOD.
IT'S OVER HERE AT THE RANCH, GET STARTED.
AND SO I GOT READY TO GET STARTED.
WE WERE LOOKING AT, AT SKETCHES AND WHATNOT, AND THEN IT'S LIKE, HOLD ON.
AND THEN I GET A CALL AGAIN A LITTLE BIT LATER.
IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WE CAN GO AGAIN.
SO I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHEN ARE WE GONNA GET STARTED, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE NEXT HURDLE WE NEED TO GET PAST? UM, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO TELL 'EM NO.
UM, THEY'RE DEFINITELY DETERMINED TO GET, YOU KNOW, TO GET THE CENTENNIAL
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SCULPTURE UP.I'VE BEEN CARVING FOR IN EXCESS OF 25 YEARS.
I WAS TOLD TO BRING SOME SAMPLES.
SO HERE'S A REALISTIC CARVING, YOU KNOW, OF A ROSE.
UM, THERE'S ALWAYS A FUN SIDE OF THINGS.
HERE'S WELCOME SIGN THAT I DID FOR MY HOUSE,
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CENTENNIAL SCULPTURE, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE ARE BUSIER.
AND SO HERE'S ONE AGAIN, IT'S ON THE FUN SIDE, UPSIDE, BUT REDNECK FISH FINDER.
AND SO ONE GUY IS HOLDING THE OTHER GUY IN THE WATER YEAH.
TO LOOK AT, UH, LOOK FOR FISH
SO WE'VE GOT SOME REAL INTERESTING DESIGNS AND LIKE I SAID IS, YOU KNOW, ALL WE NEED TO DO IS GET THE OKAY TO GET STARTED.
UH, MR. MORGAN, CAN YOU FIX, SINCE THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN ACTUALLY PUT IN THE RECORD.
IT'D BE HELPFUL IF I JUST HAVE PICTURES, SEND IT HERE AND I'M CONFUSED.
SEEMS THAT THERE WOULD BE TWO DIFFERENT PIECES OF THIS.
ONE IS THE APPROVAL ART IN PUBLIC SPACE, RIGHT.
AND THE OTHER WOULD BE, UM, UH, THE REQUEST FOR A GRANT.
'CAUSE THEY'RE ASKING WOULD TO TAKE, UM, ANY, IT'S THAT THE END OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
THAT IS THE END OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, WITH THAT, I CLOSE THE OPEN FORUM.
[4.CONSENT CALENDAR ]
TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.THIS MEETING, UH, THE APPROVAL OF APRIL'S MINUTES.
UM, IS THERE A STAFF REPORT? THERE'S NO STAFF REPORT FOR THE MINUTES.
UM, THERE'S NO, OH, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC, THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, SO YOU CAN MOVE TO THE COMMISSIONER DISCUSSION IF THERE IS ANY.
WITH THAT, I CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OF THIS ITEM? UM, WE WILL CLOSE THIS ITEM AND MOVE FOR, SO WE CAN CLOSE THE ITEM.
SO JUST A REQUEST FOR A MOTION IN A SECOND, AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM? MOTION APPROVE.
IS THERE A SECOND? DO I NAME THEM? UH, NO, IT'S OKAY.
SO NOW YOU JUST NEED TO CONFIRM THAT ALL ELIGIBLE COMMISSIONERS PRESENT, UM, ARE IN FAVOR.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, SAY AYE.
UM, ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES.
WE WILL CLOSE THIS ITEM AND MOVE FORWARD
[5.MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]
TO THE MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION.FIRST UP IS THE REVIEW OF SHEA PROPERTIES BLOOM AT PORTOLA DEVELOPER, DEVELOPER, DEVELOPER INITIATED ART PROPOSAL.
THERE IS, UM, I'M GONNA BREAK THIS DOWN INTO A COUPLE OF PARTS HERE JUST TO KIND OF KEEP IT FLOWING.
WELL, UH, THE FIRST PART WILL BE MY OWN STAFF REPORT.
UM, THEN WITH US TODAY, WE HAVE, UH, JOE, JOE, UM, FORGIVE ME YOUR LAST JEFF, I'M SORRY.
THE ONE, THE, THE, THE SICK INFANT AT HOME.
AND I'M THE ONE WHO DOESN'T HAVE ANY INFANT.
UH, SO WE HAVE JEFF FROM, UH, SHEA PROPERTIES, UH, WHO MAY HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS TO OFFER.
UM, ONCE WE MOVE PAST THAT, WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMISSIONERS TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS, UH, SPECIFIC, UH, TO THE STAFF REPORT THAT'S BEEN GIVEN OR WHAT'S IN THE PACKET.
AND THEN WE'LL CHECK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO THE FULL COMMISSION DISCUSSION.
SO JUST TO BE CLEAR ON THAT, BUT FOR MY PORTION OF THAT.
SO WHAT YOU HAVE, UH, BEFORE YOU HERE TODAY, UM, AT LEAST IN THE TIME THAT THE LIBRARY'S BEEN SUPPORTING THE ARTS, THIS IS THE FIRST DEVELOPER INITIATED, UH, ART PROPOSAL THAT WE'VE RECEIVED.
THIS IS FOR SHEA PROPERTIES BLOOM AT PORTOLA.
UM, WE ARE ASKING YOU TO REVIEW AND CONSIDER THE DEVELOPER INITIATED ART PROPOSAL SUBMITTED BY SHEA
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PROPERTIES.THIS IS LOCATED NORTH OF PORTOLA AVENUE AND JUST WEST OF MONTAGE DRIVE.
UH, THE REQUEST IS FOR A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION FOR THE ARCH TO EITHER APPROVE OR REJECT THE PROPOSAL.
UM, THERE WAS AN AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT WAS, UH, PREVIOUSLY, UM, APPOINTED AT THE APRIL MEETING.
UH, THEY DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET, UM, GIVE THEIR FEEDBACK TO EACH OTHER AND DISCUSS IT.
UM, THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO COME TO A CONSENSUS.
THAT'S WHY IN TODAY'S, UH, IN TONIGHT'S PACKET, YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE FEEDBACK FROM, UH, THE INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS WHO WERE MEMBERS OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE.
THEY ALSO, AND I'M SORRY I DIDN'T MENTION THAT EARLIER, THEY ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, CHIME IN AND, AND GIVE THEIR FEEDBACK IF THEY HAVE ANY.
UM, SO THE GENERAL CALL FOR ANYBO ANY PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY IS THAT IF THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THE SHEA PROPERTIES DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S AN ART REQUIREMENT AND IT'S, UH, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD ON HOW YOU MEET IT.
SO BASICALLY, UM, YOU NEED TO EITHER CREATE ART OR PAY AN IN LOU FEE THAT'S EQUAL.
AND THAT HAS A VALUE OF ONE THIRD OF 1% OF THE TOTAL CONSTRUCTION COST.
UM, IN THIS CASE IT WAS $135,000 AND, UH, SORRY, $135,526 AND 87 CENTS.
UM, SHEA PROPERTIES IS PROPOSING TO, UH, CREATE ART THAT IS IN EXCESS OF THAT VALUE.
THEY ITEMIZE THE COST AT $147,750 FOR WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING.
AND, UM, AT THIS POINT, AGAIN, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, AND I'LL PULL UP THE PRESENTATION SO WE CAN SEE THE SLIDES THERE AS WELL.
I'M SORRY, THE PAGES FROM THE PROPOSAL AS WELL.
SO AT THIS POINT, IT'S JUST UP TO THE COMMISSION TO HAVE A DISCUSSION, UH, AND MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION ON WHETHER YOU THINK THE PROPOSAL IS RIGHT FOR THE CITY OF LIVERMORE.
UM, WHETHER YOU DO NOT THINK IT'S RIGHT FOR THE CITY OF LIVERMORE, OR WHETHER YOU WANT TO REQUEST OR SUGGEST SPECIFIC CHANGES.
SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA GO UP TO THE FRONT AND PULL SOME SLIDES UP.
I HOPE THERE'S A COUPLE OF ATTRACTIONS.
SO THE FIRST THING I'D POINT OUT HERE IN THE PROPOSAL THAT WE RECEIVED IS THAT THEY ESTIMATED THE APPROXIMATE COST FOR THE PUBLIC ART INSTALLATION AS, AGAIN, $147,750.
THEY OFFER AN ITEMIZATION HERE, AN ARTIST FEE OF 75,000 ENGINEERING, 10,000 TRANSPORTATION DELIVERY INSTALLATION, 10,000 FOOTINGS, ELECTRICAL LIGHTING, LANDSCAPING, 35,000, CONTINGENCY 10,000.
AND THEN AGAIN, SALES TAX, UH, 77 50.
AND HERE IS THE FIRST, UM, IMAGE THAT WAS PROVIDED OF WHAT THIS, UH, ART INSTALLATION WOULD LOOK LIKE.
THEY HAVE IT AS BASICALLY, THERE WAS A LITTLE CONFUSION, I THINK FOR SOME FOLKS ON WHAT THESE DIMENSIONS WERE.
IT IS 28 INCHES FROM THE FRONT OF IT TO THE BACK OF IT.
AND, AND THEN THE TOP OF IT IS FIVE FOOT THREE OFF OF THE GROUND.
SO 63 INCHES, AND THEN IT IS 13 FEET WIDE.
AND IN THE NEXT PICTURE DOWN HERE, UM, THEY HAVE, UH, INDICATION OF WHAT THIS PIECE WOULD LOOK LIKE RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER OF THIS DEVELOPMENT FOR ANYBODY WHO, UM, ISN'T FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA OR JUST THE GENERAL PUBLIC HERE.
UM, THIS IS, UH, PORTOLA AVENUE RUNNING FROM EAST TO WEST.
THIS IS MONTAGE AND THIS IS DOVE COAT TO THE NORTH.
THE ART LOCATION, UM, IS RIGHT HERE.
THAT'S WHAT'S BEING REFLECTED ON THAT LAST PICTURE I SHOWED YOU WHERE IT WAS LIKE RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT
AND THESE ARE SITE, UH, LIGHTING PLANS.
AGAIN, THIS SHOWS THE LOCATION OF WHERE IT WOULD ACTUALLY GO.
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UM, AT THIS POINT I WOULD TURN TO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE IF, BESIDES YOUR COMMENTS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE PACKET FOR EVERYONE'S REVIEW, IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR ANYTHING ELSE TO REPORT THAT YOU WANT TO SHARE, UH, I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME AND APPROPRIATE TIME FOR THAT.I DON'T KNOW IF THE TIME FOR ME TO ASK THE QUESTION.
WELL, LET'S, UM, UH, JEFF, DID YOU HAVE, UM, ANYTHING TO ADD OR OFFER PRESENTATION WISE? ALL I'LL SAY IS I'M, I'M SORT OF PINCH S******G HERE FOR, UH, DO YOU, DO YOU WANNA COME UP? YEAH, SURE.
IN CASE YOU CAN'T HEAR ME,
SHE PROPERTIES, UH, I AM, UH, SORT OF PINCH HITTING THIS EVENING FOR JOE DAVISON, WHO IS OUR, OUR PRIMARY PROJECT PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR, UH, GETTING THIS PROJECT IMPLEMENTED, UM, THROUGH THE, THROUGH ALL OF THE, UH, APPROVALS AND ENTITLEMENTS TO THE CITY OF LIVERMORE.
UM, SO AS I SORT OF SEE THIS PROCESS, UM, WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO PROVIDE PUBLIC ART AND, UM, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY.
AND THERE, THERE'S A COMMITTEE OF FOLKS WHO VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME, THANK GOODNESS.
UM, I DO A LOT OF VOLUNTEER THINGS MYSELF IN THE CITY OF LIVERMORE.
I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 30 YEARS AND I KNOW IT, IT DOESN'T WORK VERY WELL WHEN PEOPLE DON'T.
SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR, YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR GUIDANCE.
UM, I, I SORT OF SEE THE PROCESS AS, UM, THERE'S GUARDRAILS FOR ART THAT'S ACCEPTABLE AND UNACCEPTABLE.
AND WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO TRY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE STAYING BETWEEN THE GUARDRAILS THAT THIS ISN'T OFFENSIVE OR VULGAR.
WE'RE GONNA CREATE A NUISANCE IN THE CITY.
UM, THAT IT IS, UH, UH, FITTING WITH THE PROJECT ITSELF.
THE, THE PROJECT THEME, UM, THE LOCATION FOR IT IS, UH, UM, ADEQUATELY OBSERVABLE AND, AND PUBLIC.
'CAUSE THIS IS A PUBLIC BENEFIT, RIGHT? IT'S $135,000.
WE'RE OBLIGATED TO INVEST IN PUBLIC ART HERE IN LIVERMORE.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, UH, AS WELL AS IT CAN WITH THE WAY THE PROPERTY IS SITUATED.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, WHEN I LOOK AT PLANS LIKE THIS, I GET CONFUSED ABOUT LOCATION.
BUT WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE NORTH SIDE OF THE FREEWAY OVER NEAR THE COLLEGE, UH, SORT AT THE CORNER OF COLLIER CANYON ROAD IN PORTOLA.
IS EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? AND JUST EAST OF THAT INTERSECTION, THERE'S A BRAND NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL THERE THAT GOES INTO THIS 13 ACRE SITE.
TOWN HOMES BY SHEA HOMES ON THE LEFT.
YOU PROBABLY SAW AN ART PROJECT BY THEM A YEAR, MAYBE TWO YEARS AGO FOR THAT PROJECT CALLED SERENITY, THE TOWN HOMES THAT ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED THERE AND SOLD.
UM, AND SO WE'RE THE, THE SEVEN ACRES IMMEDIATELY EAST OF OUR HOME BUILDING.
BROTHERS SHEA PROPERTIES BUILDS EVERYTHING THAT'S FOR RENT, NOT FOR SALE.
SO IF IT'S AN APARTMENT OR A, A RETAIL GROCERY, UH, AN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING, UM, THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
AND WE OWN AND OPERATE, UH, IN EXCESS OF, I THINK 5,000 APARTMENT UNITS, UM, THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA AND SEATTLE AND, UH, PARTS OF ARIZONA.
UM, SO AS FAR AS LOCATION, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE PUTTING THIS RIGHT ON THE CORNER AT THE, THE ONLY REAL ENTRY TO THE PROJECT.
UM, AND, AND IT'S A BRAND NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL IMMEDIATELY ACROSS THE STREET FROM LAMB RESEARCH.
I DUNNO IF YOU KNOW THOSE BUILDINGS OR NOT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.
AND THE PROJECT IS CALLED BLOOM.
UM, THE THEME IS SORT OF, YOU KNOW, A A NEW AND BEAUTIFUL BEGINNING, RIGHT? UM, AND, UH, THE, THE, THE PIECE THAT'S BEEN COMMISSIONED, UM, IS SORT OF INTENDED TO DO SEVERAL THINGS AND LOOK NICE
UH, YOU WANT IT TO BE VERY MAINTAINABLE.
YOU DON'T WANT IT TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S EASY TO PUT GRAFFITI ON.
UM, YOU DON'T WANT IT TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS TALL FOR, UH, THAT BECOMES A JUNGLE GYM AND SOMEBODY'S, SOMEBODY FALLS OFF OF IT AND GETS HURT.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS YOU TRY TO CONSIDER.
AND THEN CAN YOU, HOW DO YOU FIT IT IN THERE ON THAT CORNER WITH A TRAFFIC SIGNAL POLE AND A, A SIGN, AN ENTRY SIGN FOR THE PROJECT? UH, AND THE LANDSCAPING AND THE RETAINING WALL.
IT'S, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF LITTLE MOVING PARTS, A LOT OF LITTLE MASTERS TO, UH, TO TRY AND SATISFY WHEN YOU PUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS TOGETHER.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE WOULDN'T HAVE SUBMITTED IF WE WERE ASHAMED OF IT BECAUSE, UH, WE'RE SPENDING $147,000 TO DELIVER IT.
AND, UH, UH, TO THE SAME EXTENT, WE HOPE YOU'LL LIKE IT OR AT LEAST FIND THAT IT'S WITHIN, YOU KNOW, THE BOUNDARIES OF, OF WHAT, WHAT DEVELOPERS SHOULD BE STRIVING TO DO AS WE SORT OF DISTRIBUTE PUBLIC ART THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
UM, WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO FIELD ANY QUESTIONS.
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I'LL JUST, UH, GO HERE FOR ONE QUICK SECOND.SO, UM, JEFF, IF YOU DON'T MIND, YOU CAN STAY UP HERE AND THEN YOU AND I, IF THERE'S QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AND I'M OVER THERE, WE JUST HAVE TO ALTERNATE WHEN OUR MICROPHONE'S OPEN.
BUT, UM, IF YOU WANNA STAY UP HERE AND THEN, UH, TURN IT OVER TO THE CHAIR TO SEE IF THERE'S QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.
SO YOU CAN JUST ASK THE COMMISSION IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS AND WE'LL JUMP RIGHT INTO IT.
UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, ABOUT THIS ITEM? YEAH.
AM I, AM I, HELLO? LOUD AND CLEAR.
I, I, UM, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT INTERSECTION.
IT'S GONNA HAVE A LOT OF EYES ON IT.
UM, GOT SOME REAL PLUSES THAT I'M REALLY IMPRESSED BY.
ONE OF THE THINGS I ALWAYS LOOK FOR IS LIGHTING.
AND I SEE YOU HAVE IT, BUDGET LIGHTING.
'CAUSE ALMOST HALF OF THE CARS WILL COME BY AT NIGHT.
AND WE LEARNED FROM OTHER SCULPTURES, IF THEY'RE NOT LIGHTED, YOU, YOU DON'T SEE ANYTHING.
DID RECEIVE SOME INPUT, I THINK, FROM ALAN ON LIGHTING.
AND WE DID DO SOME, YOU, THERE IS A, AN EXHIBIT THERE.
I THINK THAT SHOWS WHERE WE'VE SHIFTED SOME OF THE, THE LANDSCAPE LIGHTING INTENDED FOR THE WALL AND THE SIGN TO ALSO DO, UH, UH, A NICE JOB OF UPLIGHTING THE ART AS WELL.
I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA PUT $140,000 PIECE THERE.
YOU, YOU WANNA MAKE SURE PEOPLE SEE IT.
WELL, IT WILL BE VERY WELL LIT.
AND HAVING IT STAND OUT FROM THE BACKGROUND IS IMPORTANT.
SOME OF THE SCULPTURES, UM, GET LOST WITH THE BACKGROUND BEHIND IT.
UM, YOU'VE GOT THAT WALL THERE, WHICH I THINK IS GOOD.
SO THAT'S, I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE HEIGHT.
ONLY FIVE THREES RATHER SMALL.
WELL, WE KIND GET INTO SAFETY TOO, RIGHT? LIABILITY.
BIGGER'S, WE LIKE BIGGER, BIGGER, BIGGER.
BECAUSE VISIBILITY'S IMPORTANT.
BUT YOU'VE MITIGATED THAT WITH HAVING AN ON A PLANTER.
CAN YOU TELL ME HOW HIGH THAT PLANTER IS? SO THE BEGINNING OF THE FIVE FEET WON'T BE GROUND LEVEL STANDING DOWN AT THE CORNER WHERE THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL IS.
IT'S A TERRACE RETAINING WALL.
THERE'S TWO WALLS, RIGHT? FIRST WALL IS ABOUT FOUR TO FOUR AND A HALF FEET HIGH.
THEN THERE'S A TERRACE THAT'S MAYBE FOUR FEET DEEP.
AND THEN THE SECOND WALL IS PROBABLY ANOTHER FOUR FEET HIGH.
SO TOTAL IS EIGHT, NINE FEET ABOVE THE STREET GRADE.
AND, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, OVERALL THE, THE BASE OF THE ART WOULD BE ABOVE, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY FOR ME ABOUT THIS, THIS, THIS HEIGHT.
YOU KNOW, NOT AT EYE LEVEL, BUT JUST BELOW.
SO THE BASE WILL BE FOUR TO FIVE FEET.
UNLESS YOU'RE SEVEN FOOT, I DON'T KNOW,
THAT, THAT'S GOOD THAT, THAT RE PLEASES ME.
'CAUSE I THINK THAT'LL GIVE US THAT CONTRAST AND HEIGHT TO LET PEOPLE SEE THE THEME I THINK FITS THE AREA.
UM, THE OTHER QUESTION WAS, THERE'S COLOR ON THE SCULPTURE.
'CAUSE IT'S STAINLESS STEEL, RIGHT? STAINLESS STEEL.
HOW IS THE COLOR FASTNESS? IS IT CERAMIC OR 'CAUSE JUST PAINT IT, IT IS A, UH, POWDER COATED COLOR THAT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT'S SOMETHING THAT COLOR'S SOMETHING YOU DO TOUCH UP OVER TIME.
BUT IT'S MAIN VERY MAINTAINABLE.
SO, YOU KNOW, AS SO IN 10 YEARS IT WOULD, FROM THE SUN BEAT ON IT.
UM, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE TO COME OUT AND REOW COAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE TIPS OF THOSE LEAVES IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND, AND I DID SEE SOMETHING WHERE SOMEONE IS ENAMORED WITH THE BLUE IDEA ON SOME OF THE LEAVES, BUT FOR US IT PROVIDES A VALUABLE CONTRAST FROM THE WALL AND ALL THE GREENERY.
THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF LANDSCAPING AROUND THIS CORNER.
UM, SO WHO WOULD, WHO WOULD MAKE SURE THE COLOR FASTNESS IS MAINTAINED? THAT'S UP TO THE OWNER, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, IF, IF YOU'RE GONNA PUT IT THERE AT YOUR MAIN ENTRY, I THINK YOU'RE PRETTY MOTIVATED TO MAKE SURE IT LOOKS NICE.
TO COME UP AND PAY A LOT OF MONEY TO RENT ONE OF YOUR APARTMENTS.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
I'M, I'M, YEAH, I, YOU ANSWERED MY CONCERNS.
UM, THESE WERE ALL GOOD QUESTIONS.
AND I ALSO HAD SORT OF SIMILAR QUESTIONS, UH, REGARDING THE SIZE AND IMPACT OF THE WHOLE STRUCTURE.
AND THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS SMALLER, BUT GIVEN THE WAY YOU ARE EXPLAINING THAT IT WILL BE LIKE ELEVATED ON SOME KIND OF, YOU KNOW, BASE, THEN IT SHOULD BE OKAY.
AND YES, I HAD THE COLOR ISSUE,
WHO THOUGHT THAT? I MEAN, IT'S A FAIR COMMENT, RIGHT? YEAH.
BLUE IT ALL, BUT FOR US, WE WANTED IT TO STAND OUT FROM EVERYTHING ELSE AROUND.
YEAH, BECAUSE I, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU ARE MATCHING THE BLUE WITH THE BACKGROUND OR IS THE, IS IT JUST LIKE J COMMUTE COMPUTER GENERATED,
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UH, PICTURE OF THE BUILDING WHERE I AM ASSUMING THAT THE LEAVES AND THE WINDOWS ARE SUPPOSED TO MATCH.UM, AND THE SECOND CONCERN WAS GIVEN THE WEATHER.
SO BLUE IS, YOU KNOW, NOT THE BEST COLOR IF WE HAVE THOSE CLOUDY DAYS.
UH, BUT YEAH, IF, IF IT IS EASILY MAINTAINABLE, THAT'S FINE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WANTED TO HAVE A CONTRAST, UH, WITH THE GREEN.
BUT I WOULD'VE LOVED TO SEE OTHER COLOR OPTIONS.
THE GRAY, BECAUSE THINK THERE COULD BE WALL, WALL AND THE GREEN IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE CONTRAST WITH.
BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO HAVE A STRUCTURE SCULPTURE THAT HAS A VOW FACTOR, AND IT IS LIKE, OH, THAT'S NICE.
SO IT, IT IS A BIT GENERIC, BUT WELL DONE, OBVIOUSLY.
BUT AS A, WHAT MY CONSIDERATION IS THAT WHEN YOU COMMISSION AN ARTIST, YOU DO GIVE YOUR INPUT THAT THIS IS THE TYPE OF STRUCTURE OR WHAT THIS IS THE TYPE OF AESTHETIC THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR.
SO WHOEVER WAS IN DISCUSSION WITH THE ARTIST, THE PERSON WHO'S DOING THAT WOULD HAVE, UH, SOME SORT OF A THOUGHT PROCESS WITH HOW, UM, COMMISSIONER
THERE'LL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS FURTHER LATER ON.
AND FOR NOW,
YEAH, I, I, I I ALSO LIKED IT.
SO, UH, I GUESS I, IF THEY ARE LEAVES, UM, HOW STRONG ARE THEY? THEY'RE NOT GONNA EASILY BEN GET BENT, IS IT? I THINK SO.
I MEAN, I COULDN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY POUNDS OF PRESSURE YOU COULD TAKE ON ON 'EM.
I, I WOULD, I WOULD, IT'S A STAINLESS STEEL STRUCTURE.
UM, UH, ALL TIG WELDED TOGETHER.
UM, EVERYTHING HAS ITS BREAKING POINT, BUT, UH, WE THINK IT'S A PRETTY DURABLE SELECTION.
AND THEN, UH, IT, MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE IT'S ELEVATED, IT'S NOT, UH, IT'S NOT A SUICIDAL, IT'S NOT A HAZARD OR SOMETHING.
SOMEBODY COULD, UH, GO AND, UH, GET CUT BY IT OR SOMETHING.
IT'S, IT'LL BE ELEVATED, LIKE I SAID, FOUR TO FIVE FEET ABOVE THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK THERE.
AND THERE'S NO WALKWAYS OR WALKING PATH ADJACENT TO IT.
SO, UH, THAT'S, THAT WAS PART OF THE SELECTION CRITERIA AS WELL, WHILE WE PUT IT WHERE WE PUT IT.
AND THAT, THAT PICTURE YOU SHOWED BY THE, THE BUILDING, IS THAT THE PROPOSED COLOR OF THE BUILDING? IT'S PRETTY CLOSE, YES.
IT'S, UH, IT'S INTENDED TO BE A, A PRETTY ACCURATE RENDERING.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF ALAN'S HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK THROUGH OUR ARCHITECTURAL, UH, APPROVALS THAT, THE ENTITLEMENTS FOR THE PROJECT, BUT, UM, I, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY YES, I THINK IT'S A REASONABLE, UH, UH, PRESENTATION OF WHAT, WHAT THAT CORNER'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
SO, YEAH, I, I, I, I, I LIKED IT.
YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE OTHER ONE, I GO THERE, I GO BY, I HAD TO GO TO COSTCO ALMOST EVERY WEEK, SO I YEAH.
SO I CAN IMAGINE WHERE IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, AND I THINK, AND YOU KNOW, IF AT SOME POINT WE, THE, THE COLOR ON THE LEAVES IS JUST DOESN'T WORK.
IT'S, IT'S POWDER COATED PAINT.
UM, SO IT, IT CAN BE, AND LIKE I SAID, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, IT'S A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS INVESTMENT, YOU KNOW, ISN'T GONNA WANT SOMETHING THERE THAT THEY'RE ASHAMED OF OR THAT THEY DON'T LIKE.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE PRETTY TOUGH TO MAKE SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY THINKS IS THE GREATEST THING SINCE WONDER BREAD.
SO, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO, TO HIT THE MIDDLE AS BEST WE CAN.
UH, COMMISSIONER LANE, JUST A QUICK QUESTION.
I WASN'T ON THE COMMITTEE, SO MAYBE YOU ALREADY WENT OVER THIS, BUT HAS THE ARTIST, UH, DONE THESE KINDS OF YEAH.
I DON'T KNOW IF CREATIONS BEFORE HE'S DONE THINGS IN LIVERMORE OR NOT BEFORE MM-HMM.
BUT THE ART BROKER THAT WE USED MM-HMM.
CERTAINLY HAS, UM, BEEN THE CONNECTING PERSON WITH MULTIPLE ARTISTS THAT HAVE WORKED IN LIVERMORE, INCLUDING THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE.
ALAN, CAN YOU, CAN YOU SCROLL UP
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TO THE, UM, THE PHOTOS, UH, AND THE, THE MOCKUP DESIGN? YEAH.SO THAT I CAN ASK MY QUESTION MORE EFFECTIVELY SOMEDAY MY PRINT WILL COME.
I'M THINKING YOU'RE, UH,
AND THE WALLS PROBABLY THE, HAS THE MOST HELPFUL INFORMATION ON IT.
HOW BIG IS THE AREA OF LANDSCAPING THAT IS BEING COVERED IN THE, IN THE AMOUNT THAT IS BEING BUDGETED FOR THIS PROJECT? WHAT'S THE LANDSCAPING THAT IS INCLUDED? THE LANDSCAPING THAT'S INCLUDED.
SO THE RENDERING YOU SEE IS ALL THE LANDSCAPING THAT'S INTENDED FOR THAT CORNER OF THE PROJECT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE $35,000 IS NONE OF THE, NONE OF THE MONEY IN THE, WELL, I, I THINK IT WAS, DO YOU HAVE THE THEY CAN'T FLIP THE BUDGET UP AGAIN, BUT I DON'T THINK THE LANDSCAPE PLANT MATERIALS INCLUDED IN THAT 135,000.
THERE WAS CHIPPING ENGINEERING, THE ARTIST FEE LANDSCAPING IS CALLED OUT.
IS THERE LANDSCAPE DOES SAY LANDSCAPE FOUNDATION.
I KNOW THERE WAS A LANDSCAPING'S PART OF THE CALCULATION OF HOW MUCH, UM, THE PROJECT INSTALLATION, FOOTINGS, ELECTRICAL LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPING.
SO OF THAT, SO THAT'S A 35 THOUSANDS AFTER YOU GET DONE WITH'S A ITEM AFTER YOU'RE DONE WITH RUNNING POWER OUT THERE AND, UH, BUILDING THE FOOTINGS TO HOLD THIS THING UP AND PUT THE LIGHTING IN.
BUT, BUT, BUT THERE A LITTLE BIT OF THE LANDSCAPING IS IN THAT $35,000.
IT WASN'T CLEAR TO ME WHAT THE AREA WAS THAT'S BEING COVERED.
AND THEN WE CAN, OF COURSE, IF WE END UP NEEDING TO BRING THE, UH, REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE DEVELOPER BACK INTO THE CONVERSATION, WE CAN DO THAT.
ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM? NO PUBLIC COMMENT'S BEEN RECEIVED.
UM, WITH THAT, I CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER BVA? UH, YEAH.
I MEAN, I PRETTY MUCH SAID WHAT I, UH, HAD TO SAY.
AND I THINK, UH, HIM, YOU BEING PRESENT OVER HERE WAS VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE IT GIVES, UH, GREAT DETAIL OF WHAT IT ACTUALLY IS.
UH, BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT, WE WERE MOSTLY LIKE, YOU KNOW, OKAY, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.
BUT THAT IS, AND, AND THE HOPE WAS THAT WE'LL BE MEETING THE SOMEBODY DURING THAT MEETING, WHICH DID NOT HAPPEN.
AND THAT'S WHY THERE WAS MORE LIKE GRAY, UH, AREA ABOUT THAT, WHAT THE SCULPTURES SCULPTURE LOOKS LIKE.
UM, YEAH, THE COLOR OF THE LEAVES, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T MEAN TO BE PICKY OR BE SPECIFIC IN THAT I DON'T LIKE IT.
IT'S NOT ABOUT, IT'S NOT I, BUT I WAS JUST TRYING TO SEE HOW, WHAT, WHAT OTHER OPTIONS COULD WE, UH, HAVE.
AND, UH, SECONDLY MY PERSPECTIVE WAS THAT BECAUSE YOU COMMISSION AN ARTIST AND YOU GIVE THOSE GUIDELINES TO THE ARTIST THAT THIS IS WHAT WE WANT, AND THEN THERE'S A BACK, BACK AND FORTH, AND THEN YOU COME TO THIS, UH, CONCLUSION.
I THINK IF THAT IS WHAT IS AVAILABLE, THAT WOULD BE FINE.
BUT, UH, DO YOU, DID YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY SUGGESTION ABOUT THE COLORS? YES.
UM, I, I WANTED TO SAY, FIRST OFF, I THINK THEMATICALLY, I FEEL LIKE IT, YOU KNOW, REPRESENTS BLOOM AS, AS IT'S STATED THERE.
I, I HAVE TO AGREE, BUT BLUE IS MY LEAST FAVORITE COLOR.
UM, I WOULD PREFER IT BE JUST GREEN LEAVES, ACTUAL LEAVES, OTHERWISE A COLOR, LIKE THE PURPLE OR PINK THAT PULLS OUT FROM THE, UH, LANDSCAPE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
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OPINION.BUT OTHERWISE, I'M VERY HAPPY BEING ONLY FIVE FOOT THREE MYSELF, I THOUGHT, MY GOD, THAT'S WAY TOO SMALL.
UM, SO TO KNOW THAT IT'S SITTING UP, I, I THINK ADDS THAT.
BUT OTHERWISE, I THINK IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY ONE POINT, BASED OFF WHAT YOU HAD SAID, COMMISSIONER BABAR, THIS IS NOT ARTWORK THAT THE CITY, UM, SOLICITED.
WE DID NOT REQUEST THAT THEY COME WITH ANY SPECIFIC PROPOSAL, JUST TO BE CLEAR.
UM, THEY'RE MADE WAY AWARE OF THE OBLIGATION AS THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE, UH, PLANNING AND PERMIT PROCESS.
AND EVEN STILL TO TODAY, IF THEY DECIDED WE DON'T WANT TO DO ART, WE'LL JUST PAY THE IN LOU FEE, THAT'S STILL AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM.
BUT, UM, ANY TYPE OF INPUT THAT WOULD HAPPEN RIGHT NOW, WE, OUR GOAL WAS TO HAVE IT HAPPEN WHEN THE AD HOC COMMITTEE MET MM-HMM
UM, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S IN THE PAST, THAT DID NOT HAPPEN AS INTENDED.
BUT IF THERE IS A BACK AND FORTH, IF THERE'S A SUGGESTION OR A DIRECTION, UM, THAT YOU WANT TO GIVE TO THE DEVELOPER, SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK WOULD MAKE IT WHERE YOU COULD SUPPORT THIS CONTINGENT UPON SOMETHING MM-HMM
TONIGHT IS THE NIGHT FOR THAT.
UNLESS, AGAIN, IT'S THERE VERY, VERY DEEP AND THAT WE NEED TO GO INTO ANOTHER MEETING OR ANOTHER AD HOC COMMITTEE MEETING FOR IT.
SO YEAH, IF, IF IT IS EASY AND CONVENIENT TO LOOK INTO CHANGE OF COLOR, THAT WOULD BE FINE.
IF NOT, I'M OKAY WITH THAT ALSO.
NO, UH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD WAS WHEN I, WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THAT, UH, UH, THE, THE PICTURE, HOW FAR IS IT FROM THE, THE WALL, THE WALL BACKGROUND? CAN YOU, CAN, CAN YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION? YEAH, JEFF, IF YOU WILL.
UH, IT'S ABOUT, THERE'S ABOUT FOUR FEET FROM THE BACK OF THE RETAINING WALL OKAY.
TO THE FACE OF THE UPPER RETAINING WALL.
SO, FOUR FOOT PLANTER AREA THAT WILL CENTER THIS 28 INCH DEEP PIECE WITHIN.
I, I, I THINK THE, THE, THE, THE COLOR OF THE RETAINING WALL GIVES THE GOOD CONTRAST TO THE, THE COLORS THEY HAVE CHOSEN.
I KNOW, I, I, I ALSO THINK IT'S SOMETHING GREEN WOULD HAVE BEEN, UH, BETTER, BUT MAYBE THE GREEN WOULD, UH, GET LOST IN THE, THE LANDSCAPING.
MAYBE THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A, THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING FOR THAT LOCATION.
SO, UH, I, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
I, I THINK IT'S A VERY NICE IDEA SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO THE NAMED BLOOM.
I THINK THAT, UH, THAT LOOKS GOOD.
COMMISSIONER LANE, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, UH, THIS MEETS ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY.
IT IS VERY NICELY PUBLICLY LOCATED, WHICH HAS ALWAYS BEEN A REAL CONCERN OF THE COMMISSION THAT THE ARTWORK REALLY IS, UM, AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, EASILY AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
THIS IS VERY, VERY NICE IN THAT REGARD.
AND ALSO, ANOTHER CONCERN THAT WE HAD OVER TIME IS THE MAINTAINABILITY OF THE ARTWORK.
AND THE MATERIAL CERTAINLY MEETS THAT REQUIREMENT AS WELL.
IT MEETS THE, THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE PERCENTAGE OF THE PROJECT COST.
AND SO, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T MEET VERY WELL.
THE CITY REQUIREMENTS, UM, SHALL I CONTINUE? SO, UM, YES.
SO IF ALL COMMISSIONERS HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY WHO ARE INTERESTED TO GIVE THEIR INPUT, UM, YOU HAD A OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS.
UM, NOW IS THE TIME YOU CAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MAYBE IT JUST, THE WAY THE PICTURE IS THAT THAT IMAGE YOU SHOWED OF THE ART IN THE, ON THE ROAD, THAT'S NOT, UH, THAT'S NOT THERE.
IT'S, IT'S NOT ON THE, OH, NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A HOVER OVER THE STREET.
I'M LIKE, OH, THAT'S NOT GOOD.
THAT MIGHT, I THOUGHT MAYBE IT WAS HANGING.
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WORKING.UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND THE DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPER INITIATED ART PROPOSAL? DO I HAVE A SECOND? OKAY.
COMMISSIONER KGI, UM, ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.
ANY OPPOSED? UM, THE MOTION TO ESTABLISH THE, WAIT, HANG ON THAT.
OH, IS IT TYPO? UM, SO WHAT DO I SAY? SO BASICALLY THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE DEVELOPER'S PROPOSAL HAS PASSED.
SO, UM, THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND THE APPROVAL OF THE DEVELOPER'S PROPOSAL HAS PASSED.
AND I'LL BE, UM, I'LL BE IN TOUCH WITH, UH, JOE TOMORROW.
YOU MAY TALK TO HIM OBVIOUSLY SOONER, BUT, UM, AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE NEXT STEPS ONCE THIS GOES TO THE CITY FOR THE NEXT LEVEL OF CONSIDERATION.
WHAT IT'S, TELL YOU DID A GOOD JOB,
WE WILL CLOSE THIS ITEM AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT, UM, WHICH IS ITEM 5.2 REPORT, UH, FROM THE PARTNERSHIP MODEL AD HOC COMMITTEE.
UM, IS THERE A STAFF REPORT? UH, YES.
VICE CHAIR HUR, THERE IS A STAFF REPORT.
UM, SO ITEM 5.2 IS A FOLLOW-UP UPDATE FROM THE PARTNERSHIP MODEL AD HOC COMMITTEE AS OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT, THE ITEM IS BEING BROUGHT FORWARD FOR THE COMMISSION TO RECEIVE, UH, COMMITTEE UPDATE, REVIEW, DRAFT, UH, OUTREACH MATERIALS, AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INPUT AND DIRECTION REGARDING NEXT STEPS.
UM, INCLUDED IN TONIGHT'S PACKET IS A VERY PRELIMINARY DRAFT OUTREACH BROCHURE, PREPARED ONLY AS A WORKING PLACEHOLDER TO HELP ILLUSTRATE POSSIBLE, UM, LAYOUT CONCEPTS, CONTENT CATEGORIES AND MESSAGING, UH, DIRECTION RELATED TO THE COMMITTEE'S OUTREACH DISCUSSION.
AS COMMISSIONERS MAY REMEMBER, UH, FROM THE MARCH DISCUSSION THAT, UM, THE FEEDBACK CENTERED MAINLY AROUND REFRAMING THE EFFORT TO A BROADER OUTREACH AND COMMUNICATION INITIATIVE, SIMPLIFYING THE MESSAGING AND DEVELOPING A MORE ACCESSIBLE INFORMATION RESOURCE, UH, ABOUT THE COMMISSION AND, UH, PUBLIC ARTS IN THE CITY.
UM, SO THE CURRENT DRAFT REFLECTS THE COMMITTEE'S EFFORTS TO INCORPORATE THAT DIRECTION IN A CONCEPTUAL FORMAT, UM, ONLY FOR DISCUSSION AND INPUT.
UM, AND STAFF WILL WORK TO REFINE THOSE ELEMENTS.
UM, THE DOCUMENT IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF, OF A FINAL PUBLIC FACING PRODUCT.
UM, IT'S A DISCUSSION TOOL, UH, TO HELP GUIDE COMMISSION INPUT NEXT STEPS, REFINEMENT, EDITING, ACCESSIBILITY.
UM, CAN I MENTION THE PUBLIC COMMENT RECEIPT? NO.
WELL, WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE CHAIR, CHAIR KLEI AND THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS BEFORE YOU GO.
UM, JUST ONE POINT FOR US TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ITEM, AND, AND THIS IS PART OF WHAT LANG WAS SCOPING, WE NEED TO, TO AGENDIZE IT.
IF WE WERE TO JUST MAKE THIS A, UH, AD HOC COMMITTEE REPORT OR SOMETHING, WE WOULD NOT HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU ALL TO BE, UH, TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS IT.
THAT'S THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF BRINGING THAT SOMETHING THAT'S CLEARLY AN UNFINISHED PRODUCT TO THE FULL COMMISSION.
UM, THIS HAS NOT BEEN SEEN BY ANYBODY ELSE.
THIS IS, UH, NOWHERE NEAR FINAL DRAFT STATUS AS MY, UH, PARTNER, UH, MENTIONED HERE.
JUST WANTED TO JUST BRING THAT UP SO YOU GUYS HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHY WE DIDN'T MAYBE JUST TALK ABOUT IT AT ANOTHER PART OF THE MEETING.
NO, I, I, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THAT.
I THINK WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS JUST TO AT LEAST SHOW WHAT WE WERE THINKING.
I THINK JUST A QUICK, A QUICK BACKGROUND.
UH, THE CITY STAFF PROVIDED A VERY NICE SUMMARY OF, UH, THE ARTS COMMISSION AND, UH, THE SUMMARY OF WHAT'S ON THE WEBSITE AND IN, UH, DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS OF, UH, THE, WHAT WE DO.
AND THEN WE USE THAT TO KIND OF, UH, CREATE THESE CONTENT BLOCKS.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, AND THEN TWO PAGER.
AND THEN, UH, JUST, UH, IT, IT REALLY, IT'S NOWHERE NEAR COMPLETE AND AS, UH, THE STAFF MENTIONED, BUT WE WANTED TO SHOW SOMETHING WHAT WE WERE THINKING, YOU KNOW, MAY MAYBE, UH, DEFINITELY PICTURES, MORE PICTURES WERE, UH, UH, SUGGESTED, UH, BY OUR AD HOC COMMITTEE.
AND THEN WE WANTED TO SHOW, AND I THINK THE OTHER COMMENT I WANTED TO ADD BEFORE
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WE GET THE DISCUSSION WAS, UH, ALL THE LINKS THAT WERE, UH, WE IDENTIFIED WE SHOULD PUT 'EM IN A SCANNABLE QR CODE TYPE THING.SO IT'S EASY FOR PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THE, WHAT, WHAT I, WHAT I IMAGINED WAS I WALKED DOWNTOWN AND THERE'S ALL THESE, UH, POSTERS WHERE ALL THE DIFFERENT, UH, UH, FLYERS ARE PASTED IN FRONT OF THE LIBRARY, IN FRONT OF THE POST OFFICE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
PEOPLE MIGHT LOOK AT THIS, OH, LET ME SCAN THAT AND SEE WHAT IT IS.
IT GIVES THEM INFORMATION OF WHAT WE DO, RIGHT? I THINK THAT'S PART OF, UH, THE AIM, PART OF THE THOUGHT PROCESS.
AND THEN WHAT ACTUALLY WILL HAPPEN IN THE END.
I DEFINITELY MAY NOT LOOK LIKE THIS AT ALL, YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CONTENT IS, WHAT WE WANTED TO SAY IS, YOU CAN APPLY FOR FUNDING WHAT, UH, WHAT WE ARE ABOUT, AND THEN, UH, HOW CAN WE CONTACT US? AND THEN, UH, WE WANTED TO ALSO INCLUDE ARTS, PART OF THE ARTS COMMISSION, UH, ARTS SCENE IN THE CITY, OR THE POET LAUREATE, WHAT THAT PERSON CAN DO, AND THEN WHAT'S AVAILABLE ALREADY IN THE CITY, YOU KNOW, HOW TO APPLY FOR GRANTS.
AND THEN, SO THERE, THERE'S LOT OF INFORMATION, MAYBE TOO MUCH TO PUT IN A FLYER, BUT I THINK WE WANTED TO SHOW SOMETHING AND GIVE LINKS OR THE QR CODE SO PEOPLE CAN, UH, MAYBE JUST TITLE AND PUT A ONE LINER, PUT A QR CODE SO THEY CAN LEARN MORE OR SOMETHING SO THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE SO, UH, SO CONTENT HEAVY, DENSE, IT SHOULD BE VERY MUCH MORE LINE, UH, LEAN, BUT IT SHOULD BE VISIBLE.
SO, AND THEN I THINK IN OUR AD HOC COMMITTEE, WE WENT BACK AND FORTH SEVERAL TIMES, AND THEN, UH, I, I THINK WE GOT A POINT WHERE, OKAY, WE, WE NEED SOME MORE EYES TO LOOK AT AND SEE WHAT, WHAT PEOPLE THINK.
SO THAT, THAT'S THE PURPOSE WE WANTED BRING IT UP HERE.
SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I, I DON'T THINK IT'S TOO CONTENT HEAVY.
IF I'M LOOKING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS AS AN ARTIST, I DEFINITELY WANT ALL THAT INFORMATION.
'CAUSE IT, IT SHOWS LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES.
IT SHOWS HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED, IT SHOWS HOW YOU CAN PARTICIPATE IN MEETINGS.
IT SHOWS ALL THE FUNDING, AND THEN IT DEFINES WHAT KIND OF FUNDING THERE ARE.
SO IF YOU THINK, IF YOU JUST SAY FUNDING, MOST PEOPLE WILL THINK THAT THEY'RE NOT ELIGIBLE.
BUT YOU'VE LISTED IT LIKE THAT.
I THINK IT'S VERY INFORMATIVE AND DEFINITELY NOT TOO MUCH, TOO HEAVY ON THE CONTENT.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS MAYBE THE FRONT PAGE IS A LITTLE DULL.
IT LOOKS VERY OFFICIAL AND NOT INVITING
I THINK THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE CITY STAFF TO MAKE IT VERY EYE-CATCHING.
RIGHT? SO, SO THIS IS A COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS, UH, LED EFFORT, JUST TO BE CLEAR.
SO STAFF WILL SUPPORT, UH, WILL HELP EDIT, UM, WE'LL HELP MAKE SURE THE, UH, OVERALL CONTENT OF SAID BROCHURE IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH, UH, THE CITY'S DIRECTION.
BUT ULTIMATELY, WE DO WANT THIS TO BE LARGELY DRIVEN BY WHAT THE COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS IS SUGGESTING.
UH, JUST ONE ADDITIONAL, UH, THING TO NOTE HERE.
UM, ONE OF THE NEXT CONVERSATIONS THAT I THINK SHOULD HAPPEN, AND WE HAD THIS, UH, DURING I THINK OUR FIRST MEETING ABOUT THIS IS STRIKING THAT BALANCE BETWEEN TALKING ABOUT THE ARTS AND HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS.
I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO JUST A COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS, UH, BROCHURE.
IT'S GOTTA BE REPRESENTATIVE OF ARTS IN THE CITY, BUT WE DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE A, A BALANCE THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INFORMATION IS GETTING OUT TO EVERYBODY TO TELL THEM WHAT DOES THE COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS DO? HOW CAN YOU INTERACT WITH THE COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS? UH, WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT NEED TO GO TO THE COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS FOR APPROVAL FOR? SO THAT'S MAYBE ONE OF THE THINGS I'D SAY IF THERE WAS SOME DIRECTION OR SOME THOUGHT THAT'S A GOOD PLACE.
SO IS THIS A, FOR THE COMMISSION, FOR THE ARTS SCOPE, IS THIS ABOUT THE SCOPE UNDER THE COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS? BECAUSE ARTS IN THE CITY IS INCREDIBLY BROAD.
IF THIS IS A COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS FLYER, I, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW IF, I ASSUME, I'M ASSUMING IT'S A COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS FLYER, BUT WHAT WAS THE, WHAT WAS THE COMMITTEE'S INTENTION? OH, YEAH.
I THINK AS THE STAFF MENTIONED, ITS FOCUS ON THE ARTS COMMISSION, UH, BOUNDS OF, RIGHT.
AND THEN, BUT HAVING SAID THAT, YOU SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT SOME OF THE OTHER ANCILLARY ELEMENTS, UM, ARE REFERENCED AT LEAST LIKE THE POET LAUREATE, RIGHT? THE POET LAUREATE, WHAT THAT PERSON DOES.
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THINK WE, WE NOT IN OUR SCOPE, WE JUST IDENTIFY WHO THAT PERSON IS, RIGHT? YEAH.ACTUALLY, I WOULD CONSIDER THE POET LAUREATE IN OUR SCOPE.
WE, WE'VE ALWAYS PUT THEM UNDER OUR UMBRELLA.
SO I THINK THAT'S TOTALLY FINE.
SO IF IT'S ABOUT THE SCOPE OF PUBLIC ART, WHICH IS WHAT THE COMMISSION IS RESPONSIBLE FOR, THEN ONE OTHER THING.
IT'S LIKE, WHAT'S THE POINT OF A BROCHURE, RIGHT? THERE'S MULTIPLE REASONS, BUT MY HIDDEN, NOT SO HIDDEN MOTIVE IS FOR THE CITY TO GET MORE CREDIT FOR THE PUBLIC ART PORTFOLIO.
AND SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT RIGHT UP FRONT IT SAYS THE CITY IS, HAS SUPPORTED, IS RESPONSIBLE FOR, I DON'T KNOW, THE NUMBER OR SOMETHING OF PUBLIC ART INSTALLATIONS ACROSS THE CITY.
I JUST REALLY FEEL LIKE THE CITY IS UNDERAPPRECIATED IN THIS REGARD.
SO I, I WOULD LOVE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE IT CLEAR IF SOMEBODY'S MOVING INTO THE AREA THAT THEY UNDERSTAND, KIND OF AT A GLANCE THAT THE COMMISSION, NOT THE COMMISSION, BUT THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A CITY WITH SO MUCH PUBLIC ART.
UM, SO I, YOU'RE JUST TAKING INPUT, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S JUST FOR INPUT.
SO, SO I WOULD PUT THAT LITERALLY FRONT AND CENTER SO THAT IT GRABS YOU, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT THE CITY HAS, HAS CREATED AN ENVIRONMENT AND LITERALLY THE, THE FUNDED, UH, SO MANY PUBLIC ART PROJECTS, UM, RIGHT UP FRONT.
AND THEN, UH, THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR ME, FOR STARTERS.
UM, I AGREE, UH, WITH THE COMMISSIONER, BUT THE ONLY THING, I DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT VISUALS AT THIS TIME, THE MAGENTA COLOR IN THE ORANGE WRITING WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD WANT TO BE RECONSIDERED.
AND THE SIGN THAT WE HAVE, UM, THE, THERE'S NO GREENERY AROUND IT.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S VERY, I MEAN, IT DOESN'T LOOK AS ATTRACTIVE, ALTHOUGH IF THE ONLY THE SIGN WAS, UM, ZOOMED IN AND HIGHLIGHTED, IT WOULD'VE LOOKED NICER.
BUT THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER, UH, YOU KNOW, SIGN WHEN YOU'RE ENTERING THE CITY FROM 84, IF WE CAN, THAT WILL LOOK MORE MODERN AND CURRENT BECAUSE, UH, ANY YOUNGER PEOPLE WHO ARE MOVING TO THE CITY, THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING, WHICH IS LIKE, BECAUSE WE ARE VERY WELL KNOWN FOR THE DOWNTOWN.
SO I WOULD, I, I THINK IF WE HAVE THAT SIGN PRINTED INSTEAD OF THIS, OR IF THERE WERE EVEN MORE, YOU KNOW, THOSE SMALL FLAGS, SOME, SOME SITES SORT OF MORE DECORATIVE STUFF BECAUSE THIS BROWN GROUND DOES NOT LOOK VERY APPEALING.
COMMISSIONER BABAR, I WOULD JUST STRESS AGAIN THAT THIS IS LIKE PLACEHOLDERS.
THIS WAS JUST SOMETHING TO PUT THIS TOGETHER TO SAY LIKE, OH, HEY, THERE COULD BE PICTURES.
UM, I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF NOTHING THAT YOU SEE HERE, UM, MADE IT INTO THE FINAL PRODUCT.
I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED AT THAT AT ALL.
THIS IS MORE LIKE STRUCTURE, LIKE IT'S LISTED THERE.
ONE OF THE, UH, THINGS THAT'S LISTED THERE IS LIKE A PICTURE OF THE GOOGLE MAP, AND IT'S LIKE
SO, UH, WE STILL HAVE A TON OF OPPORTUNITY TO PUT ACTUAL ART, UM, HOPEFULLY ART, WE ALREADY HAVE PHOTOS WE ALREADY HAVE.
AND IF NOT WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM BETWEEN THE AD HOC COMMITTEE AND STAFF TO TRY TO TAKE PICTURES OF SOME OF THE PLACES, UM, LIKE YOU JUST MENTIONED AND COMING IN FROM 84, MAYBE SOMEBODY GOES OUT YEAH.
TAKES A REALLY GOOD PHOTO OF THAT.
IF YOU HAVE IDEAS LIKE THAT TO MENTION, WE MENTION 'EM NOW SO WE CAN START THINKING ABOUT IT FOR THE NEXT PHASE.
JUST THE IDEAS,
UM, COMMISSIONER MALDA, UM, I, I THANK YOU TO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE AND TO THE STAFF FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
AND I REALLY LOVE THIS WHOLE IDEA.
UM, THE ONLY PIECE THAT I'M NOT IN LOVE WITH IS THE SECTION THAT IT'S TITLED EXPLORE AND PARTICIPATE.
IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE IN THE CONTEXT OF ALL THE OTHER SECTIONS.
ALL THE OTHER SECTIONS MAKE COMPLETE SENSE TO ME WHY THE BROCHURE WOULD SAY THAT MM-HMM
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IS SAYING THAT ATTEND LOCAL ARTS EVENTS.THAT'S, THAT'S AN IMPERATIVE VERB.
I THINK IT CHAIR KKI, IF I MAY.
I, I, THE IDEA BEHIND THAT CONTENT IS, UM, HOW YOU CAN ENGAGE IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO APPLY, UM, JUST A PATHWAY TO ENGAGE WITH THE ARTS.
UM, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S A PLACEHOLDER AS A CALL TO ACTION.
IF IT, YOU'RE NOT AN ARTIST, YOU'RE NOT GONNA FUND WHAT ARE PATHWAYS TO ENGAGE WITH THE ARTS IN LIVERMORE.
AND PERHAPS IT'S, THERE'S OTHER WAYS TO STATE THAT, TO INVITE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO DO THAT.
BUT THAT WAS THE SPIRIT BEHIND THAT BLOCK.
AND I, I THINK IT WAS MORE LIKE, UH, UH, WHERE DO WE FIND WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CITY? RIGHT? I THINK IT'S LIKE, WHETHER IT'S A BANK HEAD, WHETHER IT'S A BOTHWELL, IT'S A, IT'S, I THINK WE WOULD, WE, AND YOU CAN'T ACCOMPLISH THAT.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA ACCOMPLISH THAT.
SO IF THE, IF THE INTENT IS, AS YOU DESCRIBE IT, L THEN THE LANGUAGE WOULD NEED TO BE MASSAGED.
I, I THINK IT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, I AM, I'M, I'M HAPPY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT BECAUSE I THINK WITHOUT THAT FEEDBACK, I THINK WE'D BE GOING IN ONE DIRECTION, RIGHT? I THINK THAT, THAT, THAT IS REALLY APPRECIATED.
YOU KNOW, SO, AND THE, THE PICTURES, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THESE PICTURES I GOT RIGHT OUT OF OUR, UH, WEBSITE, YOU KNOW, AND, UM, EVEN THAT, UH, WELCOME TO DOWNTOWN LIVERMORE, YOU KNOW, BEHIND THAT MAPLE STREET EATERY, YOU KNOW, I WAS TRYING TO GET PICTURES THESE DAYS.
EVERY TIME I WALKED BY, THERE'S A BUNCH OF CARS PARKED THERE.
SO, AND I TOOK PICTURES AND REMOVED THE PIC, THE, THE CARS, AND THEN, UH, THE A, THE B BECOME F YOU KNOW, SO IT'S LIKE I CAN'T, SO I HAVE TO GO EARLY IN THE MORNING TO GET A PICTURE OF THAT.
SO, SO I THINK THEY DEFINITELY, AND THEN THE COLOR OF THAT, UH, THE PINK COLOR, I THINK IT JUST, MY COMPUTER DID THAT.
SO I THINK HE DEFINITELY, UH, SO WE, THE IDEA, AT LEAST WHAT I AM HEARING, IT SHOULD BE VERY BRIGHT ATTENTION GRABBING AND AN INFORMATION THAT PEOPLE CAN SAY, HA, THAT I SHOULD DO THAT.
RIGHT? AND MAYBE I'M INTERESTED IN, UH, THE LEARNING MORE, I THINK.
SO I THINK, UH, DEFINITELY A GOOD FEEDBACK.
UM, ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO SAY WAS, UH, FROM WHAT COMMISSIONER LANE HAD MENTIONED ABOUT PUBLIC ART AND THE EXPLORE AND PARTICIPATE PART, WHAT YOU COULD DO IS HAVE A COMPLIMENTARY BROCHURE THAT HAS THE PHOTOGRAPHS OF ALL THE PUBLIC ART WITH THEIR LOCATIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PUT OUT AN ART WALK OR PLACES LIKE THAT, OR ANYWHERE.
SO PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY TAKE THEIR OWN SELF CONDUCTED TOUR.
SO, SO JUST, UH, DIRECTION, UM, OTHER THAN INTEGRATING THE FEEDBACK, UM, IN THE NEXT DRAFT, JUST IF THERE'S ANY SPECIFIC DIRECTION FROM THE, OKAY.
UM, IS THERE ANY DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION ON THIS MATTER? WHAT, WHAT WOULD THE NEXT STEPS BE? OH, SORRY.
OH, WERE YOU GONNA GO? YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, UM, MY HOPE IS THAT THE COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS COLLECTIVELY WILL SUGGEST THAT THE AD HOC COMMITTEE CONTINUE THEIR WORK, UH, MEET AGAIN, UH, DISCUSS THE INPUT THAT WAS SHARED HERE TODAY, AND THEN ONCE THEY'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET, MEET WITH STAFF AGAIN AND, UM, JUST KEEP IT MOVING FORWARD FROM THERE.
WE HAVE SOME GOOD MOMENTUM RIGHT NOW.
AND, UM, THIS WON'T BE THE LAST DRAFT.
THE NEXT ONE WON'T BE THE FINAL VERSION, BUT, UM, YOU'LL SEE ANOTHER DRAFT AND AT A FUTURE MEETING, UM, BARRING THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, DECIDING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO DO I, NOPE.
JUST COLLECTIVE, UH, DIRECTION, IF, IF THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO, SOUNDS GOOD.
UH, YEAH, THERE'S NO OTHER FEEDBACK.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? FEEDBACK? OKAY, I WILL CLOSE THIS ITEM.
UM, AND MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM 5.3, UM, WHICH IS THE APPOINTMENT OF AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TO REVIEW, UH, MINI-GRANT APPLICATIONS.
IS THERE A STAFF REPORT? UH, THERE IS A STAFF REPORT, VICE CHAIR TO HERS.
UM, OKAY, SO ITEM 5.3 IS THE APART APPOINTMENT OF AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TO REVIEW MANY GRANT APPLICATIONS RECEIVED FOR THE JUNE 1ST, 2026, UH, CYCLE.
AS OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT, THE COMMISSION ROUTINELY ESTABLISHES THE AD HOC COMMITTEES TO SUPPORT REVIEW OF GRANT APPLICATIONS AND ASSIST STAFF IN ENSURING ELIGIBILITY, COMPLETENESS,
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AND ALIGNMENT WITH THE COMMISSION GOALS AND PRIORITIES.UM, AT THIS TIME, STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY MINI GRANT APPLICATIONS FOR THE CURRENT CYCLE, ALTHOUGH HISTORICALLY SUBMISSIONS USUALLY COME CLOSE TO THE, UM, DEADLINE.
UH, BUT FOLLOWING THE JUNE ONE APPLICATION DEADLINE, STAFF ANTICIPATES COMPILING AND DISTRIBUTING THE MATERIALS TO THE APPOINTED COMMITTEE.
UH, SO WE ANTICIPATE PROVIDING THE APPLICATIONS TO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, UH, THROUGHOUT THAT WEEK, DEFINITELY BY FRIDAY, JUNE 5TH.
UM, AND THAT ALLOWS FOR A FULL WEEK, UH, OF JUNE 8TH FOR THE COMMITTEE TO MEET, REVIEW DELIBERATE, AND PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO STAFF BY JUNE 12TH, UH, TO ENSURE THAT IT GETS INTO THE JUNE PACKET.
SO THAT'S THE TIMELINE WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, APPOINTMENT OF THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE.
UM, HAS THERE BEEN ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT BEEN RECEIVED? UM, DO WE NEED TO DISCUSS THIS? UH, YES.
UH, YOU CAN OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMISSION TO SEE IF THERE IS ANY DISCUSSION.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MATTER? UM, ALRIGHT, JUST CARRY ON.
UH, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? DO YOU HAVE A MOTION TO ESTABLISH THIS AD HOC COMMITTEE? SO MOVED.
UM, ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? AYE.
THE MOTION PASSES TO, OH WAIT, WE HAVEN'T SELECTED ANY COMMISSIONS YET.
UH, SO TWO SEPARATE, SO, OH, OKAY.
THE MOTION HAS PASSED TO ESTABLISH THE AD HOC COMMITTEE.
NOW WHEN YOU VOLUNTEERS THE MOTION TO ESTABLISH THE AD HOC COMMITTEE PASSES, UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO SELECT, OH, NO, WAIT, JUST, UH, CHECK FOR INTERESTED PARTIES TO, UH, WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THE AD HOC COMMITTEE? OKAY.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO SELECT, UH, COMMISSIONER MILDER, COMMISSIONER DAWN ELLI, AND, UH, VICE CHAIR HURST AS PART OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE.
OH, UH, WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE THE CHAIR COMMISSIONER MILDER.
UM, ALRIGHT, DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO SELECT COMMISSIONER MILDER DON ALICE AND VICE CHAIR HURST FOR THE AD HOC COMMITTEE.
AND CAN WE CLARIFY THE SECOND, WHO WAS THE SECOND? I HEARD COMMISSIONER BABAR IS THE MOTION, BUT, OKAY.
YOU CAN CLOSE THIS ONE AND KEEP IT MOVING.
WE WILL CLOSE THIS ITEM AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT.
SO THE NEXT ITEM IS, UH, 5.4 SELECTION OF, UH, COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS.
VOLUNTEER TO JUDGE THE CITYWIDE EMPLOYEE ART EXHIBIT AND CONTEST
AND I'LL MAKE THIS VERY, VERY QUICK.
SO, UH, IN THE MONTH OF JULY, AS BEEN MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE OUR CITYWIDE EMPLOYEE EXHIBIT, UH, AND SORRY, ART EXHIBIT AND CONTEST IN THE GALLERY OF THE CIVIC CENTER LIBRARY.
UM, WE ARE GOING TO, UM, HAVE A TOTAL OF THREE JUDGES.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE ONE, UH, STAFF MEMBER AS A JUDGE.
WE WOULD LIKE ONE MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS AS A JUDGE.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ONE, UH, MEMBER OF THE LOCAL ARTS COMMUNITY AS A JUDGE AS WELL.
UM, THE TIMEFRAME LISTED IN THERE, HANG ON JUST ONE MOMENT.
UH, WE ARE HOPING THAT THE JUDGING OF THE ARTWORK CAN HAPPEN BETWEEN JULY 1ST AND JULY 13TH.
THE ARTWORK SHOULD BE UP ON JULY ONE, SO SHOULD HAVE THAT ENTIRE PERIOD TO COME TOGETHER AS A SMALL GROUP, OF COURSE, STAFF WILL SUPPORT, UM, BRINGING EVERYONE TOGETHER, UM, WHO IS IN FACT A JUDGE.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A RECEPTION ON THE AFTERNOON OF WEDNESDAY, JULY 22ND, WHICH WE HOPE WHOEVER ENDS UP VOLUNTEERING TO BE A JUDGE CAN BE A PART OF AS WELL.
UH, THIS IS A FIRST TIME EFFORT, JUST AN IDEA THAT CAME INTO MY HEAD ONE DAY AND I THOUGHT MIGHT BE COOL FOR THE CITY, UM, TO HELP EVERYBODY KIND OF SHARE THEIR ARTISTIC TALENTS AND ABILITIES.
AND ALSO TO GET THE CITY STAFF THINKING MORE ABOUT ENGAGING WITH THE ARTS.
SO THAT COMPLETES MY STAFF REPORT.
UM, HAS THERE BEEN ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT BEEN RECEIVED.
UM, IS THERE ANY, UH, COMMENT ON THIS? COMMISSIONER LES.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS CLEAR WHEN I WAS READING THROUGH THIS.
SO THIS IS, UM, A CONTEST OPEN TO CITY EMPLOYEES YES.
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ONSO IF SOMEBODY HAD LIKE A SMALL FIGURINE, UM, SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT COULD BE PUT IN A CASE AND HUNG FROM THE GALLERY WALLS.
OBVIOUSLY, PAINTING, DRAWING, MY PERSONAL ART IS POETRY.
UM, JUST ANYTHING PEOPLE CAN COME UP WITH THAT WE CAN DISPLAY.
WE ALSO ARE AT, ARE LETTING THEM KNOW IF YOU HAVE A FORM OF ART THAT CANNOT BE DISPLAYED, EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN'T BE A PART OF, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DISPLAY.
UH, MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY AT THE RE RECEPTION IF SOMEBODY IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, HEY, I PLAY GUITAR.
MAYBE WE CAN FIND THREE MINUTES FOR AT THE RECEPTION TO LET 'EM PLAY GUITAR OR INTERPRETIVE DANCE, OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
WE WANT TO TRY TO BE INCLUSIVE, UM, TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.
UH, I WILL JUST SAY, TO BE COMPLETELY FRANK, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE 10 PARTICIPANTS OR WE'RE GONNA FILL ALL THE SLOTS, BUT WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT SEEING WHERE WE CAN GO WITH THIS.
COULD YOU, UM, INVITE PEOPLE TO SEND VIDEOS OR PHOTOGRAPHS OF 3D WORK? MAYBE, AND THAT COULD BE PART OF THE JUDGING PROCESS.
YOU KNOW, I, I MEAN, I'M OPEN TO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO INCLUDE EVERYONE.
UM, THERE'S A DISTRIBUTION PART OF IT THAT I THINK IS TRICKY.
UM, WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING LONG TERM ABOUT MAYBE POTENTIALLY IDENTIFYING PLACES LIKE WHERE, LIKE A DIGITAL SCREEN SOMEWHERE IN THE GALLERY.
I THINK FOR THE FIRST GO ROUND, PROBABLY TRYING TO DO ANYTHING THAT WE CAN LIKE MOUNT SO THAT, 'CAUSE WE WANT YOU ALL TO BE ABLE TO COME IN.
WE WANT OTHER ARTS FIGURES LOCALLY.
AND THEN OF COURSE WE WANT THE THOUSANDS OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO COME THROUGH THE LIBRARY TO BE ABLE TO OBSERVE WHATEVER IT IS.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UM, DO I HAVE A VOLUNTEER TO JUDGE THIS ART CONTEST? I'LL DO IT.
OTHERWISE I WOULD LOVE TO DO, WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR ONE.
UH, YEAH, SO IF THEY, IF EVERYONE COLLECTIVELY AGREES WE DON'T NEED A VOTE.
UH, DO YOU, UH, WELL, DO YOU COLLECTIVELY SUPPORT ME AS THE JUDGE
UM, WE'LL CLOSE THIS ITEM AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT, UM, UH, OKAY.
[6.COMMITTEE REPORTS AND MATTERS INITIATED BY STAFF AND COMMISSIONERS ]
UH, WE MOVE NOW.COMMISSION COMMITTEE REPORTS AND MATTERS INITIATED, INITIATED BY STAFF AND COMMISSIONERS.
IS THERE A REPORT FROM STAFF? I ONLY HAVE A COUPLE OF VERY, VERY QUICK ITEMS. UM, JUST ONE THING THAT I THINK IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE FOR THE COMMISSION TO RECONSIDER, AND WE DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE, I BELIEVE THIS IS WHEN, UH, CHAIR MILDER WAS CHAIR, UM, THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEES FOR THE MINI GRANTS.
UM, BASED ON THE NUMBER OF MINI GRANTS THAT WE GET, WE THINK MAYBE THERE'S STILL AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY LIKE ONE AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR THE YEAR.
UM, THE PROJECT AND PROGRAM GRANTS.
UM, I DO BELIEVE THERE'S MORE INVOLVED, UH, WITH THE CONSIDERATION OF THOSE.
THERE'S MORE REQUIREMENTS AND SUCH.
SO KEEPING THAT AS, UH, TWICE A YEAR, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT MAKES SENSE.
UM, BUT THE AD HOC, UM, COMMITTEES FOR THE MINI GRANTS, THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO THINK ONE TIME A YEAR.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T DISCUSS THAT TODAY, BUT IF THERE'S INTEREST IN THAT, WE CAN BRING THAT TO A FUTURE MEETING.
SO, WELL, IS THERE INTEREST IN HAVING THAT? AT LEAST HAVING A DISCUSSION AROUND IT? UH, OKAY.
NOBODY'S OPPOSED, SO WE'LL SAY YAY TO THAT AND WE'LL BRING THAT BACK AS AN ITEM, A SHORT ITEM.
I, I THINK WE CAN HAVE A PRETTY QUICK DISCUSSION ON THAT.
AND THEN THE OTHER ITEM, JUST AN FYI TO THE COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS, BOTH RFPS THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, IN THE WORKS FOR A WHILE ARE OUT IN THE WILD.
UM, THE L STREET GARAGE MURAL, RFP IS LIVE AND THE, UH, LIVERMORE AND PLAZA UTILITY BOXES, RFP IS ALSO OUT IN THE WILD.
UM, JUST AN FYI FOR EVERYONE WHO'S ON THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR THE UTILITY BOXES, THE LAST DAY TO SUBMIT IS, I THINK IT'S 10:59 PM PACIFIC, UH, ON, UH, FRIDAY, THIS COMING FRIDAY THE 29TH.
SO AS SOON AS THAT'S DONE, WE'RE GONNA WORK QUICKLY TO, UH, PACKAGE
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UP, UM, ALL THE SUBMISSIONS AND GET THEM TO ALL THE AD HOC COMMITTEE MEMBERS SO THAT YOU CAN DO YOUR, UM, INITIAL THOUGHTS AND RECOMMENDATION BEFORE WE BRING IT BACK TO THE FULL COMMISSION.AND THEN OF COURSE WE GO TO THE CITY WITH IT.
SO, UM, THAT'S IT FOR, UH, MY STAFF REPORTS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY LANG OH, NO, I DON'T.
UM, ANY, UH, COMMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER KIG, I THINK, UH, STAFF, I THINK YOU SENT ANOTHER EMAIL JUST BEFORE THE MEETING THAT THERE WAS SOME SUPPLEMENTAL, UH, FEEDBACK ON THAT, UH, OUR, UH, FLYER PARTNERSHIP MODEL FLYER THAT WE, WE, I THINK THAT THEY, THEY THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS THE FINAL FLYER, SO DEFINITELY I THINK, UM, WE, WE UNDERSTOOD THAT IT, IT, IT, IT IS NOWHERE NEAR, SO HOPEFULLY THE NEXT VERSION WILL BE PRETTY, A DECENT VERSION.
SO, UH, WE'LL TAKE THAT FEEDBACK AND THEN, UH, WE'LL, UH, INCORPORATE WHAT IS NEEDED.
SO MS. TVI HAS BEEN TO MEETINGS HERE BEFORE? YEAH, SHE'S FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS.
SHE HAD GENERAL FEEDBACK AND I'VE RESPONDED TO HER, ACKNOWLEDGED HER FEEDBACK AND, UM, HOPEFULLY IF SHE SEES THE RECORDING OR YEAH.
HAS A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES, SHE'LL GET THE SAME INFORMATION AS EVERYBODY ELSE.
SO, AND THEN THE SECOND WAS THAT L STREET GARAGE MURAL.
SO IS THAT, WILL THAT COME TO THIS COMMISSION FOR, UH, NO.
THAT THERE NO CHANGE ON THE DIRECTION ON THAT THOUGHT.
I THOUGHT YOU CHANGED THE, I THOUGHT THE CITY SAID THEY CHANGE AND WE WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST HAVE A REVIEW.
I THOUGHT YOU SAID THAT WE WOULD AT LEAST GET A REVIEW.
I KNOW THE LIVERMORE AND PLAZA UTILITY BOXES DID CHANGE.
UM, BECAUSE ORIGINALLY THAT WAS GONNA BE JUST, UH, IN LED INTERNALLY.
UM, LET ME DOUBLE CHECK JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M NOT MISSTATING.
I'LL GO BACK AND I'LL REVIEW WITH, UH, OUR LEADERSHIP AND JUST SEE IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, FOR THE COMMISSION TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK.
UM, WAS THERE A PROPOSAL TO THE CITY FOR THE SPEAKERS THAT SPOKE DURING PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT REPLACING THE TOTEM POLE? I, I MIGHT BE CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT THE COMMISSION'S ROLE IS IN THAT.
THEY SEEM TO BE ASKING US FOR SUPPORT AND AN ACTION.
SO THERE'S NO, UH, AGENDIZED ITEM FOR IT.
THE COMMI THE CITY IS AWARE OF THE PROPOSAL, UM, THEIR PROPOSAL, LIKE ANY NEW PROPOSALS FOR ART THAT WE GET RIGHT NOW WOULD HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS.
UM, COULD I, COULD I ASK FOR A CLARIFICATION OF WHAT, WHAT THE, WHO THE PROPOSAL WENT TO? DID IT GO FROM THE HERITAGE GUILD TO SOMEONE? UM, I WOULD SAY BEFORE WE GOT TOO DEEP INTO IT, WE SHOULD AGENDIZE AN ITEM IF THERE'S A NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
BUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF JUST RIGHT NOW, I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UM, WE WERE, UH, MADE AWARE STAFF WHO WORK WITH THE ARTS WE'RE MADE AWARE OF THE PROPOSAL AND THE PROPOSAL WAS SHARED WITH CITY LEADERSHIP ALL THE WAY UP TO THE CITY MANAGER.
SO YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHO IT WENT TO? NO, IT, IT'S GONE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE CITY MANAGER.
SHE'S, SHE'S THE LEAD ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE CITY.
I, I, I FORGOT I WAS GONNA ASK THAT QUESTION.
CAN WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT, UH, MEETING? SO, BECAUSE SHE LOOKS LIKE SHE'S IN SOME SORT OF URGENCY AND THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THEY CAME AND PRESENTED.
SO THE, THE COMMISSION COULD AGENDA IS AN ITEM TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PROPOSAL.
BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE ALREADY HAD DIRECTION PUT IN PLACE ABOUT HOW ANY NEW ART IS GONNA BE CONSIDERED AFTER WE'VE DONE THE INVENTORY OF EXISTING ART, UM, AND ART SPACES AND PLACES, AND THEN LOOKED AT POTENTIAL NEW ART SPACES AND PLACES, UM, ANY DISCUSSION THAT WE WERE TO HAVE WOULD NOT CHANGE HOW THINGS ARE GONNA HAPPEN FOR THAT GROUP OR ANY GROUP AT THIS POINT.
NOT UNTIL WE GO THROUGH THE OTHER PHASES FIRST.
SO, SO THAT ART MAY NOT HAPPEN THIS YEAR.
I DON'T WANNA PUT A TIMEFRAME ON HOW LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE US TO GO THROUGH WHAT'S CALLED FOR IN THE WORK PLAN, WHICH IS AGAIN, THE INVENTORY OF THE EXISTING YEAH.
THE AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON, RIGHT? YES.
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I THINK MAYBE WE AT LEAST WE SHOULD DISCUSS WHAT SO THEY KNOW WHERE WE ARE.BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE ASKING THE COMMISSION TO DO WHAT IS NEEDED TO GET THEM APPROVAL.
BUT IT IS NOT EVEN ON OUR, UH, UH, IT'S, IT'S NOT VIEW, RIGHT? YEAH, IT'S NOT, YEAH.
SO, SO COMMISSION CAN BE PUT IT ON THE, CAN WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA NEXT? THANK YOU.
COULD WE ASK FOR, UM, A, A FEEDBACK OR REPORT OUT FROM THE SUBCOMMITTEE THAT IS LOOKING AT WHAT YOU JUST SAID A MOMENT AGO, UM, CATALOGING EVERYTHING.
COULD WE ASK FOR THAT TO BE A REPORT OUT TO US AT THE NEXT MEETING? WE HAVE NOT BEGUN WORK WITH THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE, BUT AFTER THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE HAS BEGUN ITS WORK, WE COULD, COULD WE GET A STATUS OR TIMEFRAME OF, OF KIND OF HOW LONG? YEAH, I MEAN WE CAN, WE CAN COME BACK WITH AN ESTIMATE ON THAT.
I, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR AGAIN, WITHOUT GOING DEEP INTO A CONVERSATION, 'CAUSE I THINK WE'VE PROBABLY JUST ABOUT HIT WHAT THE ACCEPTABLE LIMIT IS FOR DISCUSSION.
UM, AGAIN, IF WE BRING THAT ITEM BACK, UH, TO DISCUSS IT AS AN INDIVIDUAL ITEM, UH, THERE'S NOTHING THAT IS STOPPING THE COMMISSION FROM, UM, DOING THAT.
BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR, UNTIL THE AD HOC COMMITTEE'S WORK HAS BEEN COMPLETED, AND THAT'S A LONG-TERM PROJECT THAT'S NOT A, A ONE MONTH OR A TWO MONTH OR A THREE MONTH THING, THAT'S GONNA BE WELL INTO THE FUTURE, UM, UNTIL THAT WORK IS COMPLETED, UH, THERE'S NO PATHWAY FOR THEIR ART PROJECT TO GO FORWARD UNTIL WE GET THERE.
UH, COMMISSIONER MALDA, UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY INTEREST IN DISCUSSING THIS, UH, AT THE COMMISSION WITHOUT A PROPOSAL FROM THE PEOPLE, UM, UH, WHO ARE, WHO WANNA PUT UP A, A SCULPTURE.
UM, AND ALL I WOULD, ALL I'M INTERESTED IN IS THAT SOMEBODY TELL THEM THE COMMISSION IS NOT ABLE TO ACT, UM, ON YOUR PROPOSAL.
THEY'RE NOT THE PEOPLE YOU NEED TO TALK TO.
THE PEOPLE YOU NEED TO TALK TO ARE WHOMEVER, CITY MANAGER, WHOEVER IT MIGHT BE, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TELL THEM, PLEASE DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME CONVINCING US OF SOMETHING THAT WE ARE NOT IN A POSITION TO ACT ON.
THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE UNDER A MISIMPRESSION THAT WE CAN ACT.
SO I DON'T HAVE ANY INTEREST IN DISCUSSING IT.
IF THERE'S A PROPOSAL BEFORE THE COMMISSION, GREAT, BUT WITHOUT A PROPOSAL FOR THE COMMISSION, I DO NOT WANNA SPEND COMMISSION TIME DISCUSSING A PROJECT THAT WE CAN'T ACT ON.
SO I, I JUST THINK A, AN APPROPRIATE THING IS FOR YOU, ALAN, TO GET BACK TO THEM AND SAY, THANKS FOR COMING TO THE COMMISSION AND INFORMING THE COMMISSION ABOUT THE PROJECT.
THEY CANNOT MAKE ANY DECISION ON THE PROJECT.
UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NEXT STEP FOR YOU WOULD BE TO SPEAK TO WHOMEVER.
I, I I THINK THAT THEY NEED TO HEAR THAT.
I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE AND FAIR.
AND FRANKLY, I THINK THAT'S IN ALIGNMENT WITH WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE.
SO, UM, BUT YEAH, IF, IF I, I GET IT, IT'S QUITE POSSIBLE THAT EVEN THOUGH YOU GAVE THE FEEDBACK TO THEM YEAH.
THEY DID NOT UNDERSTAND THAT YEAH.
AND CLEARLY IT'S POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO MISUNDERSTAND.
I WOULD, I WOULD SAY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS COMPLETELY REASONABLE.
UM, IF, FOR THIS SPECIFIC TOPIC, AGAIN, UNLESS THERE IS A SPECIFIC CALL OR IF SOMEBODY WISHES TO DO THAT, A CALL TO, UM, HAVE AN ITEM FOR AGENDA SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A FULL CONVERSATION.
THIS IS THE EXACT REASON WHY ITEMS HAVE TO BE AGENDIZED, IS SO THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC, ANY OF THE INVOLVED PARTIES WILL GET A CHANCE TO BE A PART OF THAT DISCUSSION.
UM, COMMISSIONER LANE, I'D LIKE TO REQUEST AN AGENDA ITEM TO UNDERSTAND FURTHER WHY THIS, THERE ARE NO PROJECTS THAT THE CITY IS, UM, ACCEPTING PROPOSALS FOR, FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME.
WE CAN TALK THROUGH IT, AND THEN WE KNOW WHERE THIS FITS IN THE BIG SCHEME OF THE THINGS, RIGHT? SO AT LEAST WE KNOW, AND IN, AND IN, THEY SHOULD ALSO KNOW WHETHER THEY ALREADY KNOW.
I THINK THEY'RE EITHER THINKING THAT, UH, MAYBE I'M, I'M GOING TO ATTEND THE MEETING AND THEN THAT WILL FORCE THEM TO MAKE A DECISION.
UH, THAT'S A WRONG INFORMATION THAT THEY MAY BE THINKING.
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WE SHOULD BE VERY CLEAR THAT, HEY, THIS NEW ART, UH, IS IN LINE AND THEN HE'LL, HE'LL GET THE DECISION WHEN IT COMES UP AND IT WON'T BE NEXT TWO MONTHS.IF, IF THAT'S THE SCOPE AND THE COMMISSION COLLECTIVELY AGREES TO BRING THAT BACK FOR AS AN AGENDA ITEM, WE CAN DO THAT.
DO I SAY ANYTHING? UM, UM, YOU JUST CHECK WITH THE COMMISSION AND SEE IF THAT'S THE COLLECTION DESIRE.
UM, DOES, UH, EVERYBODY WANT TO ADD THIS TO NEXT MONTHS? OR, SORRY, SO NOT CLEAR WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED? UM, I, IT'S A, I THINK IT'S ABOUT PUBLIC ART AND HOW PUBLIC ART IN ANY FORM IS ON HOLD UNTIL THE CRITERIA FOR WHAT WE ACCEPT.
SO GOING BACK TO WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE APRIL MEETING ABOUT THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, TO WORK WITH STAFF TO CONDUCT THE INVENTORY OF EXISTING ART SPACES IN PLACES, CONSIDER AND EVALUATE LOCATIONS FOR NEW ART INSTALLATION AND TO PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS.
IF IT'S A TIMELINE THAT'S BEING, FORGIVE ME, UM, VICE CHAIR DERS, IF THE DISCUSSION IS LIKE, KIND OF TALKING ABOUT A FIRMER TIMELINE, UM, HAPPY TO BRING AN ITEM BACK ABOUT THAT.
BUT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IN THE APRIL MEETING IS WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN FIRST BEFORE ANY NEW ART, IT SOUNDS LIKE.
AND I APOLOGIZE 'CAUSE I WASN'T AT THE APRIL MEETING.
I MEAN, BUT YOU, BUT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO.
ALL IN FAVOR OF MAKING THIS A AGENDA AS ITEM WE
JUST IF COLLECTIVELY YOU WANNA BRING THAT, DISCUSS BACK FOR DISCUSSION TO TALK ABOUT THE TIMELINE YEAH.
THEN JUST WHAT'S HAPPENED RIGHT THERE, IF THAT WORKS FOR YOU.
UM, I JUST HAD SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP.
UM, AND THIS IS JUST A GENERAL THING BASED ON A SPECIFIC THING THAT HAPPENED.
UM, YOUNG PEOPLE THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THE LIVERMORE SCHOOL SYSTEM, THE LIVERMORE COLLEGE SYSTEM, AND DURING THAT TIME, ARE AVAILABLE TO AWARDS FROM THE ART ARTS COMMISSION AND SUPPORT, AND, UH, CAN ENTER IN SHOWS WHEN, UM, THEY MAKE A PROPOSAL, WHICH MAYBE THEY'VE NEVER DONE BEFORE, BEING THE YOUNG AGE OF 19.
UM, WHEN THEY GET COMPLETELY REJECTED, I FIND THAT IS A LITTLE, UM, IRONIC, SEEING AS WE SUPPORTED THEM WHEN THEY WERE YOUNGER AND THEN THEY, UM, THEY'RE NOW TRYING TO LAUNCH THEIR CAREER AND THEN THEY GET STOPPED.
IT'S, IT'S NOT VERY GOOD FOR THEIR PSYCHE.
AND I THINK AS A COMMISSION THAT SUPPORTS YOUNG ARTISTS AS THEY'RE GROWING UP, UM, SHOULD AT LEAST DISCUSS WHY IN PERSON.
OR MAYBE SEEING AS WE'VE GOT A YOUNG ARTIST AWARD IT, IT, YOU OFFER THEM A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY JUST TO SAY, THIS IS A GREAT EFFORT.
UM, WHEN THEY'RE WRITING PROPOSALS THAT THEY'VE NEVER DONE BEFORE, HOW DO THEY KNOW WHAT IS A GOOD THING, WHAT THEY NEED TO, UM, PUT IN? IT'S ALSO VERY VAGUE, THE QUESTIONS ON THE MINI GRANT PROPOSAL AND, AND THE QUES, UM, 'CAUSE I, SORRY, THIS IS NOT GETTING SPECIFIC, BUT, UM, IT WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO MAKE A SPECIAL CASE FOR ANY LIVERMORE RAISED CHILD IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, MAYBE TO JUST DISCUSS WITH THEM AND HELP THEM OUT A LITTLE BIT.
UM, I'M NOT BEING VERY CLEAR, BUT MAYBE WE COULD AGENDIZE THIS JUST TO DISCUSS IT, UM, RATHER THAN SOME UNKNOWN WHO'S, BUT ANYWAY, THAT, THAT'S MY THING.
I'M GOING OFF SO YOUNG PEOPLE THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM THAT AREN'T LAUNCHING THEIR CAREERS.
IF WE COULD GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT OF LEEWAY, UH, COMMISSIONER LANE, IT, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A COOL AGENDA ITEM BECAUSE, UH, MAYBE IT WILL LEAD TO A CATEGORY FOR EARLY CAREER.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, I MEAN, I GUESS WE'RE ALL IN LIVERMORE, BUT THE CONCEPT OF, OF EARLY CAREER SEEMS LIKE IT'S A WORTHWHILE CONSIDERATION.
BUT THE IS IS IS THAT, UH, I GUESS IN, IN REFERENCE TO SOMETHING I, I DIDN'T QUITE GET WHAT'S THE REFERENCE TO? WELL, SPECIFICALLY TO TWO YOUNG ARTISTS APPLIED FOR A MINI GRANT AND WERE REJECTED WITH NO FEEDBACK.
UM, AM I OKAY TO DISCUSS THIS? UM, YOU CAN DISCUSS THE SUBJECT, BUT IF WE'RE GONNA GO DEEPER THAN THAT, THAT SHOULD WAIT UNTIL THE ITEMS CHANGED.
UM, AND, UH, I THINK IT WAS CONFUSING TO THEM TO JUST BE OUTRIGHT REJECTED BECAUSE I THINK THE FIRST THING THAT ANYONE THINKS, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE THAT YOUNG, IS THAT THEY'RE NO GOOD, WHICH IS NOT AT ALL WHAT YOU WANT TO, UM, CONVEY TO A YOUNG ARTIST STARTING OFF ON THEIR CAREER.
UM, SO ALL IN FAVOR TO, OH, SORRY.
SO IS IT, IS IT, AM I HEARING WHAT PART OF WHAT YOU WANNA HAVE AGENDIZED IS ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE PROCESS OF HOW DENIALS ARE COMMUNICATED TO, AS PART OF THE
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GRANT PROCESS? IT COULD EXTEND INTO THAT.I JUST FEEL THAT FOR YOUNG ARTISTS THAT ARE, UH, HAVE GONE THROUGH THE, ESPECIALLY LIVERMORE YOUNG ARTISTS HAVE GONE THROUGH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND WE SUPPORT THEM AT THAT POINT IN THEIR LIVES, NOW MAKE AN INDEPENDENT, UM, VENTURE TO GET A GRANT AND THEN ARE REJECTED.
I FEEL LIKE THAT IS A SPECIAL CASE AND WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE, WE SHOULD SOME KIND OF
SO THEY DON'T REAL, THEY DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE FAILURES.
SO IT IS JUST THE PROCESS AND, YOU KNOW, THE REASONS BEHIND IT COULD BE EXPLAINED.
YEAH, I, I GUESS I WOULD THINK ANYBODY WHO'S REJECTED SHOULD HAVE A CLEAR EXPLANATION AS TO WHY THEY WERE REJECTED, WHETHER THEY'RE FROM A LIVERMORE CHILD OR, OR, OR NOT.
AND SO, TO ME THAT FEELS LIKE GOING BACK TO LOOKING AT THE OVERALL, THE GRANT PROCESS ITSELF, THE QUESTIONS YOU HAVE TO ANSWER AND THEN HOW REJECTIONS ARE COMMUNICATED TOO.
WELL, THERE WAS, THERE WAS THAT, AND THEN IT'S JUST THE IRONY OF YOU CAN APPLY, UH, FOR, AND NOW A, UH, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S A YEARLY GRANT FOR HIGH SCHOOLERS AND NOW THAT'S GONE TO MIDDLE SCHOOLERS, UM, TO LAUNCH THEIR CAREER.
AND THEN THOSE PEOPLE THEN APPLY FOR AN ACTUAL PROFESSIONAL GRANT AND GET REJECTED.
THEY, I MEAN, NOT THAT THEY NEED TO GET THE WHOLE AMOUNT, EVEN IF IT'S JUST $200, AT LEAST IT'S A GESTURE TO SAY, YOU'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING AND WE ENCOURAGE YOU.
SO IT WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR LIVERMORE.
I THINK YOU SHOULD, I THINK WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL NOW IS LIKE, UH, MORE DEFINED SCOPE OF EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT THE DISCUSSION TO BE SO THAT WE CAN SEE IF THERE'S, UM, COLLECTIVE SUPPORT FOR IT.
UM, PERHAPS MAYBE LIKE COMMISSIONER LANE WAS SAYING A, A CATEGORY FOR LIVERMORE GRADUATES.
SO THE, OR A YOUNG ARTIST AWARD.
I MEAN, MAKE IT PART OF LIKE A, SO THE, THE PART THAT'S JUST FOR, FOR STAFF, I SPEAK FOR MYSELF.
UM, PART OF WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WANNA FOCUS ON IS MAYBE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THESE YOUNG ARTISTS.
UH, THE OTHER PART IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WANT TO TALK A BIT ABOUT THE, UH, AS COMMISSIONER DIOR NOW HAS SAID ABOUT THE REJECTION PROCESS, UM, RIGHT NOW AS IT STANDS, EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME OPPORTUNITY TO GET FEEDBACK.
THEY CAN REACH OUT TO US, THEY CAN LISTEN TO THE RECORDINGS, WATCH THE RECORDINGS NOW OF THE COMMISSION MEETINGS AND HEAR WHAT WAS DISCUSSED.
THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR 'EM.
BUT IF IT'S GONNA GO ANYTHING FURTHER THAN THAT, THEN LET'S, LET'S SCOPE WHICH LANE YOU'RE THINKING WE SHOULD GO DOWN HERE OR MAKE IT BROADER, BUT MAKE IT KIND OF ONE COLLECTIVE THING.
MAYBE JUST MAKE THE YOUNG ARTIST AWARD THAT THAT IS LISTED MORE, UH, PROMINENT AND, AND GIVE IT A DEADLINE PER YEAR TO APPLY FOR.
'CAUSE IT'S ON THE, IT'S ON THE LIST OF AWARDS YOU CAN GET, BUT THERE'S NO DEADLINE FOR IT.
SO I THINK JUST MAKING IT A THING SO WE KNOW THERE ARE YOUNG ARTISTS SUPPLYING AND THEN WE CAN GET, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MAKE IT A LITTLE FAIRER FOR THEM.
AND SO WHAT, WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THAT YOU WANT SOME KIND OF CONSOLATION OR APPRECIATION FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE REJECTED? WELL, NO, NO.
IT SPECIFICALLY AND GIVE THEM, IT'S NOT.
I MEAN, THAT IS AN IMPORTANT THING, BUT MY, MY IDEA WAS FOR YOUNG PEOPLE, YOUNG PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY LIVERMORE GRADUATES YEAH.
JUST, BUT, SO I, I I WOULD SAY DISCUSSING A CATEGORY SPECIFICALLY FOR YOUNG LIVERMORE GRADUATES, UM, TO APPLY FOR ARTS AWARDS.
SO EXTRA GROWTH, PERHAPS WE CAN SCOPE IT AS, UM, AN AGENDIZED ITEM TO DISCUSS OPPORTUNITIES FOR LOCAL YOUTH IN THE ARTS.
AND THEN AS WE GO INTO THAT ITEM, WE CAN KIND OF FLESH IT OUT MORE IDENTIFYING WHAT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES CAN BE IF THERE ARE NEW OPPORTUNITIES.
UM, AND THEN ALSO TALKING ABOUT THE FEEDBACK CYCLE FOR THOSE FOLKS, IF IT DOESN'T WORK OUT FOR THEM YES.
KIND OF LIKE, IS THAT ENOUGH BOUNDARY FOR THE COMMISSION TO SAY WHETHER THAT'S SOMETHING THEY'D LIKE TO DISCUSS FURTHER? OH, OKAY.
SO NO, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC ITEM.
MAYBE HOW BIG DO YOU WANNA MAKE IT? RIGHT? HOW HOW BIG IS EASY IS SIMPLY YOU ARE ASKING FOR LIVERMORE, UM, YOUNG ARTISTS.
WE WANNA LOOK INTO CREATING A DIFFERENT CATEGORY.
WELL, HOW ABOUT THE YOUNG ARTISTS AWARDS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE? LET'S MAKE IT A THING.
LET'S ACTUALLY GIVE IT A DEADLINE AND AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WILL BE THAT.
BECAUSE IF YOU SIMPLY SAY THAT A MINI GRANT WAS REJECTED AND THAT HAPPENED TO BE A LIVERMORE YOUNG ARTIST, AND UH, WELL, IF IT'S NOT LIVERMORE SOMEBODY ELSE, THEY GOT REJECTED.
THEY ALSO FEEL PROBABLY THE SAME THING.
SO THERE'S TWO PARTS TO IT, RIGHT? IS IT A FEEDBACK PROCESS OR IS IT A SUPPORTING?
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HOW, HOW, HOWEVER, NOT GOOD IT IS.WELL, NO, LET'S JUST, I I WOULD SAY LET'S GET THAT YOUNG ARTIST AWARD UP AND RUNNING.
LET'S GET IT PART OF THE GRANTS CATEGORIES.
LET'S, LET'S, LET'S SAY AGAIN, 'CAUSE FOR A FEW THINGS WE'VE GONE LIKE WAY DEEPER THAN WHAT'S NORMAL.
UH, IS THERE AN INTEREST FROM THE COMMISSION OVERALL TO DISCUSS THE YOUNG ARTIST GRANT FURTHER? HOW IT'S APPLIED, UH, HOW IT'S APPLIED FOR WHO'S ELIGIBLE FOR IT, ET CETERA.
JUST EVERYTHING AROUND THE SCOPE OF THAT? YEP.
DO, THAT'S, I'M STILL TOO CONFUSED, UH, TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT.
I NEED MORE CLARITY ABOUT WHAT THIS IS.
WELL, WE, WE HAVE ENOUGH SUPPORT TO BRING IT BACK.
AND WHAT WE'LL DO COMM UH, COMMISSIONER MILDER IS WE'LL WORK WITH VICE CHAIR HURST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT SHE'S SCOPING SO THAT IT'S CLEAR IN THE AGENDA PACKET.
UM, DO I ADJOURN? UM, UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER, UH, FEEDBACK REPORTS FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS OR SORRY, COMMISSIONERS.
I WILL CALL THIS MEETING ADJOURNED.