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OKAY.

UM,

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ALRIGHT.

SO IT IS NOW, UH, BY MY WATCH SEVEN OH THREE.

SO I'M GONNA CALL THIS MEETING OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION FOR APRIL 2ND TO ORDER, UH, FIRST UP WE HAVE THE ROLL CALL.

SO STAFF, I JUST HAVE TO SAY, COMMISSIONER CAULFIELD PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER CURTIS.

PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER NADI.

PRESENT VICE CHAIR HANNON HERE.

AND CHAIRPERSON PAN HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT UP WE HAVE OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

SO IF YOU CAN ALL JOIN ME AND STAND AND REPEAT AFTER ME, I GUESS.

READY? SIR? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

I CAN'T BELIEVE I JUST KNOW THAT ONE.

I KNOW.

OKAY.

NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS OUR OPEN FORUM.

AND SO I WILL INVITE ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION TONIGHT.

UH, NOW IS THE TIME TO DO SO ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT.

UH, SEEING NOBODY JUMP UP.

SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE, WHAT'S THAT? I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS AN ITEM THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT UP OR NOT, BUT I, I HEARD THIS IN PASSING MM-HMM .

BUT TWO YEARS AGO, UH, A LADY, UH, CONTACTED ME AND SHE HAD BEEN MOVING SOME OLD FURNITURE AND FOUND A BUNCH OF HISTORICAL STUFF BEHIND ONE OF THEM.

WOULD THIS BE A, LIKE A NEW BUSINESS ITEM WE COULD DISCUSS? UH, AT THE END OF THE MEETING? IT MIGHT BE NEW BUSINESS.

WHY DON'T WE TRY THAT? OKAY.

THAT'S FINE.

'CAUSE THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT MIGHT BE A NEW BUSINESS ITEM THAT WE COULD BRING UP.

'CAUSE I'D OVERHEARD IT AND, OKAY.

SO IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD PROBABLY LOOK INTO.

MAKE, UH, A NOTE OF THAT WHEN WE GET TO NEW BUSINESS AT THE END.

WE'LL BRING IT UP IF THAT WORKS.

THAT OKAY? EXCELLENT.

UM, OKAY.

SO LET'S SEE.

I BELIEVE I WAS CLOSING THE OPEN FORUM AND

[3. CONSENT CALENDAR]

THEN NEXT UP WE HAVE OUR CONSENT CALENDAR.

SO, UM, I THINK I'LL DO THESE IN TWO DIFFERENT ONES.

'CAUSE I THINK WE HAVE A DIFFERENT GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT CAN VOTE FOR, UH, THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

YES.

AT THE DECEMBER MEETING.

UM, OKAY.

WHERE ALL, I BELIEVE ALL OF YOU WERE PRESENT THE DECEMBER DAY.

OKAY.

AND, AND THEN AT THE, THE FEBRUARY MEETING, UH, COMMISSIONER CURTIS AND COMMISSIONER HANNON WERE ABSENT, SO OKAY.

WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE TO VOTE.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

SO WITH THAT, UH, ITEM 3.1 IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM DECEMBER 4TH, 2025.

UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES? OR I ALSO TO, UH, ENTERTAIN IF ANYBODY HAS ANY CORRECTIONS FOR THOSE MINUTES, NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO BRING THAT UP.

OTHERWISE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS THEY ARE WRITTEN.

SO THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEBODY ON THE COMMISSION TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES CAN MOVE.

WHAT'S THAT? NO, I CAN'T.

YOU CAN, BECAUSE THIS IS FROM DECEMBER.

WE WERE ALL HERE FOR THIS ONE.

OKAY.

THEN I, AND YOU COULD, YOU COULD STILL MOTION TO APPROVE.

YOU JUST CAN'T VOTE TO APPROVE ON THE FEBRUARY ONE, THAT'S ALL.

SO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? YES.

OKAY.

UM, UH, .

SO COMMISSIONER CAULFIELD SECOND.

UH, SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT, I'LL TAKE A VOTE FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR, UM, UH, DECEMBER 4TH, 2025.

COMMISSIONER COFIELD? YES.

COMMISSIONER CURTIS.

YOU CAN ON THIS ONE.

ARE WE ALREADY ON DIRECT? OH, WE'RE ON THE FIRST ONE.

DECEMBER.

YES.

COMMISSIONER NAZA? YES.

UH, VICE CHAIR HANNON AYE.

AND CHAIRPERSON PAN? YES.

OKAY.

UH, SO WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR DECEMBER 4TH.

UH, MOVING TO ITEM 3.2, THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM FEBRUARY 5TH, 2026.

UM, OPEN IT UP IF ANYBODY HAS ANY COMMENTS ON THOSE MINUTES FIRST.

SEE NONE.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES.

OKAY.

SO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

UM, AND DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

OKAY.

I HAVE A SECOND AS WELL.

SO WITH THAT, UH, CALL FOR A VOTE.

AND JUST A REMINDER THAT COMMISSIONER HANNAN HAN HANNON.

THANK YOU.

AND COMMISSIONER, LET'S SEE, WAS IT CURTIS?

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YES.

UM, OUR, UH, WILL BE ABSTAINING ON THIS ONE.

COMMISSIONER CAULFIELD.

YES.

COMMISSIONER CURTIS.

DID YOU SAY ABSTAINING ABSTAIN.

COMMISSIONER NATI? YES.

VICE CHAIR HANNON ABSTAIN.

ABSTAIN.

ABSTAIN.

YEP.

AND CHAIRPERSON PAN APPROVE.

GREAT.

SO BOTH OF THE MINUTES, UH, ITEMS 3.1 AND 3.2 ARE APPROVED.

SO WE'LL MOVE FORWARD INTO PROJECT REVIEW AND WHICH WE HAVE NONE.

ITEM FIVE, WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS OF WHICH WE HAVE NONE.

AND THAT MOVES

[6. MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION]

US FORWARD TO NUMBER ITEM NUMBER SIX, WHICH IS MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION.

UH, SO FIRST UP WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 6.1, CONSIDERATION OF AN HISTORIC PLAQUE FOR THE LIVERMORE PLA PLAQUE PROGRAM.

SAY THAT MULTIPLE TIMES, TWICE, UM, OR MULTIPLE TIMES IN A ROW.

UH, SO THAT IS AT 1707 THIRD STREET.

AND I BELIEVE WE MIGHT HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION FOR THAT FIRST.

YES, WE DO.

UM, THANK YOU.

CHAIR PAN.

UH, GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS JESSE GARCIA AND I'M HERE TO PRESENT THE PLAQUE, UH, TEXT FOR THE HOME AT 1707 THIRD STREET, WHICH THE CITY RECEIVED AN APPLICATION FOR THROUGH THE VOLUNTARY PLAQUE PROGRAM.

CITY HAS BEEN ISSUING COMMEMORATIVE PLAQUES FOR PROPERTIES, UH, SINCE 1935 IN THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION'S ROLE IN REVIEWING THESE PLAQUES IS TO APPROVE THE TEXT LANGUAGE, ENSURE HISTORICAL ACCURACY AND READABILITY.

FORMAL ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA FOR THE PROGRAM WAS ADOPTED BY THE COMMISSION IN FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR.

THESE REQUIREMENTS ALLOW FOR HOMES TO BE CONSIDERED FOR A COMMEMORATIVE PLAQUE IF THEY'RE EITHER ONE, CONSTRUCTED MORE THAN 50 YEARS AGO IN AN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE IDENTIFIED IN THE CITY'S HISTORIC CONTEXT STATEMENT, AND OR ASSOCIATED WITH AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS SIGNIFICANT TO LIVERMORE'S HISTORY AND RELATED TO THE RESIDENCE.

HOMES DO NOT NEED TO BE DESIGNATED HISTORIC, HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT OR POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT TO BE CONSIDERED FOR A BLACK, IF AT LEAST ONE OF THE TWO CRITERIA.

ON OUR MET STAFF RECEIVED ONE APPLICATION THROUGH THE VOLUNTARY PLAQUE PROGRAM TO COMMEMORATE THE HOME LOCATED AT 1707 THIRD STREET.

THE HOME WAS BUILT CIRCA 1890 AND STAFF FOUND TWO SIGNIFICANT INDIVIDUALS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROPERTY.

SIMON FOSS AND ELLEN LAD.

FOSS.

SIMON FOSS WAS A PIONEER LIVERMORE RESIDENT WHO IMMIGRATED FROM PIEDMONT, ITALY WITH HIS FAMILY, UH, OTHERS OF WHICH ARE NOTABLE FIGURES IN LIVERMORE'S EARLY DEVELOPMENT.

SIMON WORKED AS A STOCK RAISER, HORSE BREAKER AND ALAMEDA COUNTY COURT INTERPRETER AS HE SPOKE SEVERAL LANGUAGES FLUENTLY.

RECORDS INDICATE THAT HE ALSO RACED IN LOCAL TROTTING MATCHES AND WAS KNOWN FOR HIS PARTICIPATION IN THE EARLY LIVERMORE HORSE PARADES, WHICH PREDATED THE LIVERMORE RODEO.

ELLEN LAD FOSS WAS THE EL ELDEST DAUGHTER OF ALFONSO LAD, THE FOUNDER OF LADS, PHIL LIVERMORE'S PRECURSOR, AND SHE WAS A PIONEER LIVERMORE RESIDENT.

THE TWO LIVED IN THE HOME FROM APPROXIMATELY 1890 TO 1922 AND RAISED THEIR FOUR CHILDREN IN THE HOME.

WE ARE PROPOSING THE FOLLOWING PLAQUE TEXT, UH, WHICH WAS INCLUDED IN THIS ITEM STAFF REPORT.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY.

GREAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, JESSE.

APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, BEFORE I OPEN IT UP HERE TO THE DIOCESE, UM, I WOULD DO WANT TO, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING, UM, I WANNA OPEN IT UP TO ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS US ON THIS ITEM.

SO IF YOU WANT TO DO SO NOW, IF NOT FOREVER, HOLD YOUR PEACE.

OKAY.

SO, UH, WITH THAT, I'LL BRING IT UP HERE AND ASK MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OF STAFF ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, ON THE TEXT OR ANYTHING ELSE.

UM, COMMISSIONER NE NE, ANY QUESTIONS? NO.

COMMISSIONER HANNON.

UH, WHICH OF THE DO YOU WANNA, WHICH OF THE REASONS GIVEN DO THEY COMPLY WITH? UM, BASED ON OUR ANALYSIS, THE HOME IS ASSOCIATED WITH HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT INDIVIDUALS, UM, SIMON AND ELLEN.

AND PER THE PROGRAM ADOPTED LAST YEAR, UM, IT IS ELIGIBLE FOR CONSIDERATION FOR A PLAQUE.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT THAT COMPLIED WITH BOTH THINGS OR JUST ONE.

GREAT, THANK YOU.

MM-HMM .

COMMISSIONER CAULFIELD, ANY, UH, NO COMMENT.

OKAY.

COMMISSIONER

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CURTIS? I DO WHAT IS, UH, FOUNDER OF LADS? UH, LADS WAS THE PRECURSOR COMMUNITY TO LIVERMORE.

UM, IT WAS ESTABLISHED BY ALFONSO OR FRANK LAD.

UM, ELLEN WAS ONE OF HIS CHILDREN, AND SHE WENT ON TO, UH, LIVE IN LIVERMORE AS ONE OF THE EARLIEST RESIDENTS, ALONG WITH SIMON AND SOME OF HIS FAMILIES.

BUT LADS, BILL WAS THE PRECURSOR TO LIVERMORE.

IT EXISTED, UH, WHERE LIVERMORE IS NOW.

OKAY, GREAT.

UM, ANY OTHER, SO I'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT PART.

UM, I HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS OTHER THAN TO, I JUST DID WANT TO, UM, CONGRATULATE YOU, JESSE, FOR, UH, AN INCREDIBLE JOB OF PUTTING TOGETHER THE STAFF REPORT, THE, THE RESEARCH, UM, ALL OF THE REFERENCES, EVERYTHING.

AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF WORK.

SO, FANTASTIC JOB.

I MEAN, YOU ANSWERED ANY QUESTIONS I HAD AND YOU BACKED EVERYTHING UP WITH DOCUMENTATION.

UH, I'M SURE THIS WASN'T AN EASY PROJECT TO PUT TOGETHER, SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.

THAT'S A GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

OH, YES.

OH, SURE.

WHO REQUESTS THESE PLAQUES? ARE YOU GUYS JUST, THE PLAQUE PROGRAM IS, UM, WE RECEIVE APPLICATIONS ON A VOLUNTARY BASIS, SO HOMEOWNERS CAN APPLY FOR THE, UH, PLAQUES.

THE CITY RESERVE'S BUDGET FOR THREE PLAQUES EVERY YEAR, BUT IT'S THE HOMEOWNERS WHO APPLY.

OKAY.

SO THE PRESENT HOMEOWNER REQUESTED? YES.

OH, OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

NOW I GET THE CONNECTION.

THANK YOU.

AH, THAT'S GOOD.

THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

UM, OKAY.

I HAVE NO OTHER FURTHER COMMENTS MYSELF, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE EVERYBODY HERE HAS ASKED THEIR QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

FOR GOOD.

UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 6.1.

UH, SO, OKAY.

SO I HAVE, UH, UH, NEBA, UH, MOTIONS TO, UM, APPROVE AND, UM, COMMISSIONER HANEN HANNON.

I'M GONNA GET THAT RIGHT.

I'M FINALLY GETTING NEBA, RIGHT.

UH, SO, UM, SECONDED.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL CALL FOR, UH, A VOTE.

COMMISSIONER CAULFIELD APPROVED COMMISSIONER CURTIS APPROVED COMMISSIONER NATI, VICE CHAIR HANNON AND CHAIRPERSON PAN APPROVED.

JESSE, THAT'LL PROBABLY BE THE SIMPLEST AND EASIEST PROJECT YOU GET APPROVED .

I'LL TAKE IT UNTIL, AND STILL STEVE GETS YOU UP TO, UH, PRESENTING AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA GET A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE.

BEEN THERE.

OH, EXCELLENT.

OKAY.

I, BASED OFF OF THIS, I'M NOT SURPRISED.

, THIS IS A GREAT, GREAT REPORT.

OKAY.

SO THAT MOVES US ON TO ITEM NUMBER 6.2, WHICH IS OUR PUBLIC IN INFORMATIONAL BROCHURE FOR THE LIVERMORE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAM.

AND SO WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN UP OR GIVE IT OVER TO STAFF FOR THEIR PRESENTATION VISUAL AIDS.

OH, GOOD.

WE GOT 'EM.

SO IS THIS THE, THIS IS THE CHEAP PAPER, NOT THE REALLY NICE STUFF THAT IT'LL GET PRINTED ON.

GOT THE SEMI-GLOSS GOING FOR THIS.

EXCELLENT.

UH, THIS IS REALLY HELPFUL TO SEE IT ALL FOLDED UP NOW.

AWESOME.

UH, SO GOOD EVENING CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, COMMISSIONER.

IT'S GREAT TO SEE EVERYONE.

UM, UH, AN AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE COMPRISED OF CHAIR, PAN, AND CHAIR HANNON HAS WORKED WITH PLAN DIVISION STAFF REGARDING WORK PLAN PROJECT NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS A INFORMA, WHICH IS A PUBLIC INFORMATIONAL BROCHURE DESCRIBING THE LIVERMORE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAM.

THE GOALS OF PROJECT FOUR HAVE BEEN TO CREATE A BROCHURE, PROVIDING PUBLIC INFORMATION REGARDING THE CITY'S HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAM, INCLUDING THE PLAQUE PROGRAM, AVAILABLE TOOLS AND RESOURCES FOR LEARNING ABOUT LIVERMORE'S EXISTING HISTORIC RESOURCES AND THEIR BENEFITS TO THE CITY AND CITY RESOURCES FOR COMMEMORATING, DESIGNATING, AND PRESERVING HISTORIC RESOURCES.

IN FEBRUARY, UH, OF 2026, STAFF PROVIDED THE SUBCOMMITTEE A DRAFT OF THE BROCHURE AND RECEIVED FEEDBACK.

IN THE FOLLOWING MARCH, STAFF INCORPORATED THE SUBCOMMITTEE'S FEEDBACK INTO THE BROCHURE AND PROVIDED AN UPDATED DRAFT TO WHICH THE SUBCOMMITTEE HAD.

UH, VERY FEW ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.

UH, AS YOU SEE IN THE EXAMPLE, THE DRAFT BROCHURE CONSISTS OF A FRONT COVER, A BACK COVER CONTAINING INFORMATION ABOUT THE, UH, CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THE PLANNING DIVISION, AND FOUR INTERNAL PANELS CONTAINING INFORMATION ABOUT THE PLAQUE PROGRAM, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAM, THE CITY HISTORIAN,

[00:15:01]

THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION ORDINANCE, THE CONTEXT STATEMENT, AND THE HISTORIC RESOURCES INVENTORY.

IN CONCLUSION, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION, UH, COMMISSION APPROVE THE DRAFT BROCHURE FOR USE BY THE CITY FOR PUBLIC INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES.

THANK YOU.

AND STAFF WOULD BE HAPPY TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, SIMILARLY, BEFORE WE DISCUSS IT, I'LL OPEN THIS UP TO THE PUBLIC.

IF ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE, UH, COMMISSION, UH, PLEASE GO TO THE MIC AND DO SO NOW.

IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.

NO, I SEE OUR ONE MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO'S HERE TONIGHT IS SHAKING HIS HEAD.

SO, UM, OKAY.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL, UH, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, PORTION OF THIS AND BRING IT BACK UP HERE.

AND I'LL START ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DAIS.

UH, COMMISSIONER CAULFIELD, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, UH, AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS ITEM? THERE YOU GO.

TURN IT ON.

IT SHOULD BE A BUTTON ON THERE.

THERE YOU GO.

SO, UM, WHERE IN THE CITY WILL, UM, THIS PAMPHLET KIND OF UPON APPROVAL, WHERE, WHERE WOULD IT BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC? GREAT QUESTION.

THE, UH, THE PERMIT CENTER AT CITY HALL HAS A FRONT DESK AREA THAT, UH, HAS, UM, UM, A MULTITUDE OF, UM, SLOTS FOR, UH, EXISTING, UH, INFORMATIONAL PAMPHLETS, UM, BOTH FOR CITY PROGRAMS AND RESOURCES AND, UH, REGIONAL PROGRAMS AND RESOURCES.

SO IT, IT WOULD EXIST WITH, WITH THOSE EXISTING, UH, BROCHURES AND, UH, BRUSHERS AND THE CITY HALL PERMIT CENTER.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

HOW ABOUT THE CIVIC? OH, IT'S OKAY.

I, YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL GET THERE.

WE'LL GET THERE.

GET UP.

YOU DON'T FOR RECORDING.

UNDERSTOOD THERE.

SORRY.

YEAH, SO MY QUESTION IS ABOUT, IT'S ON, IT'S ON, YEP.

HOW ABOUT THE LIBRARY AND THE, YOU KNOW, CARNEGIE, UH, HALL LIBRARY? YEAH, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE EXCELLENT SUGGESTIONS.

UH, BUT THE, THE HERITAGE GUILD AT, AT CARNEGIE LIBRARY AND THE, THE LIBRARY, YES.

I, I BELIEVE THAT THEY ALSO HAVE, UH, UH, THEY HAVE A BROCHURE SECTION.

EXACTLY.

YEAH.

SO, UM, I SEE NO, NO REASON WHY, UH, WE CAN'T ALSO PROVIDE THEM AT THOSE LOCATIONS.

OKAY.

AND A QUESTION ABOUT THE LAYOUT, LIKE, IS THIS FINAL, OR IS THERE GOING, ARE THERE GOING TO BE CHANGES BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT IS, UM, JUSTIFIED IN A, IN A WAY WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE WORDS ARE VERY SPREAD OUT BECAUSE THE SOFTWARE IS TRYING TO KEEP EVERYTHING IN A BOX.

YOU MAY WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

UM, JUST, IT DOESN'T APPEAR PLEASING TO THE EYE WHEN ONE READS JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M FINICKY LIKE THAT, BUT THAT'S MY COMMENT.

EVEN ON THIS HISTORIC RESOURCE INVENTORY, YOU CAN TELL THAT, YOU KNOW, IT HAS BEEN JUSTIFIED A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.

SO MAYBE THAT'S ALL.

SURE.

SO, YEAH, THE JUSTIFICATION CHOSEN, UM, IN THE EXAMPLE IN THE DRAFT PAMPHLET WAS, UH, FOR THE PURPOSES OF HAVING A, UH, VERY, UM, GEOMETRIC AND, UM, SQUARE, UM, FORMAT SO THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE, UM, UH, INSTANCES WHERE THERE'S INCOMPLETE LINES AND, UM, THIS IS A, UH, ONE OF THE, UH, SIDE EFFECTS OF THAT CHOICE.

AND THE JUSTIFICATION IS WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING.

THERE SOMETIMES ARE SOME GAPS IN BETWEEN THE WORDS.

YEAH.

I CANNOT REMEMBER HOW YOU CAN CORRECT IT, BUT THERE IS A WAY OF CORRECTING, BUT I CAN , IF I REMEMBER, I'LL SEND YOU AN EMAIL .

YEAH.

UM, IF I, I BELIEVE IF, IF HPC WERE TO APPROVE, UH, THIS, UM, THIS DRAFT TONIGHT, THEN, UM, STAFF COULD LOOK INTO, UH, THAT SORT OF MODIFICATION THAT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY, THAT WOULDN'T CHANGE THE LANGUAGE OR THE CONTENT IN ANY WAY, BUT JUST, UH, LOOK TO TRY TO TWEAK THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, UM, WHILE KEEPING EVERYTHING ELSE THE SAME.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, HPC COULD DIRECT STAFF TO DO.

OTHERWISE, IT'S VERY NICELY DONE.

I LIKE IT.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

OH, SORRY.

GO AHEAD.

HOW MANY BROCHURES ARE YOU PLANNING TO PRINT UP? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE JUST GONNA KEEP AND JUST CONTINUE TO PRINT AS NEEDED? YEAH.

AND DO YOU SEE ANY REVISIONS NEEDED IN THE FUTURE BEYOND THIS, OR IS THIS, UH, DO YOU FEEL LIKE THIS IS COMPLETELY IN THE PACKAGE OF WHAT WE'RE YOU'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE?

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I, I, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, NON-SUBSTANTIVE, UH, CHANGES SUCH AS THE ONE THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER NASS HAS, HAS PROPOSED COULD BE MADE BY STAFF WITHOUT BRINGING THIS BACK TO THE HPC FOR REVIEW.

BUT ANY SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES MADE TO THE CONTENT AND THE LANGUAGE AND THE INFORMATION BEING PROVIDED WOULD, UM, POTENTIALLY, UH, LIKELY, YOU KNOW, REQUIRE HPC HAVING ANOTHER LOOK AT IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

YEAH, OF COURSE.

YEAH.

SO, YOU KNOW, THIS LOOKS VERY, I WOULD DARKEN THIS IF YOU CAN, OTHERWISE, IS THIS YOUR FINAL CHOICE OF COLOR? BECAUSE IT LOOKS VERY WASHED OUT AND SO BEAUTIFUL.

, THE, THE, YOU'RE REFER REFERRING TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAM, THE FONT AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE COLOR OF THE FONT.

ARE YOU GOING TO DARKEN THAT BECAUSE IT REALLY LOOKS WASHED OUT THAT THAT'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF A, OF A, UM, EDIT THAT HPC COULD, UM, DIRECT STAFF TO MAKE ALONG WITH THE OTHER ONE BROUGHT UP.

SO PRETTY OTHERWISE.

OKAY.

UM, WILL THE ACTUAL APPLICATION, UH, BE GIVEN OUT WITH THIS OR WILL THEY GET, GET THIS AND READ IT AND THEN ASK FOR AN APPLICATION? YES.

UH, THE, THE SECOND OPTION YOU DESCRIBED IS, IS WHAT, UM, STAFF IN INTENDED THE, THE, UM, THE PLAQUE PROGRAM APPLICATION EXISTS ONLINE, AND IT IS, IT IS REFERENCED IN THIS HANDOUT.

SO THE, THE THINKING WOULD BE THAT SOMEONE WHO HAD THIS HANDOUT WOULD READ ABOUT THE PLAQUE PROGRAM, AND IF THEY WERE INTERESTED IN APPLYING FOR IT, THEY WOULD USE THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THE PLANNING DIVISION ON THE BACK PAGE AND ASK ABOUT HOW TO APPLY COMMISSIONER COFIELD.

OOPS.

DID THAT GET TURNED OFF? NOPE.

COMMISSIONER COFIELD, DID YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? UH, NOT AT THIS TIME, NO.

OKAY.

UM, DID COMMISSIONER CURTIS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO.

NO.

OKAY.

UM, I, I TOO WILL SECOND, UH, YOU KNOW, SEEING THIS ON THE COMPUTER SCREEN IS ONE THING, AND THEN SEEING IT, UH, PRINTED AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S KIND OF ON A DRAFT PAPER HERE, IT'S NOT GLOSSY OR ANYTHING.

I, MY FIRST IMPRESSION TOO WAS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAM LANGUAGE ON THE FRONT WAS A LITTLE LIGHT.

SO, UM, MIGHT RECOMMEND TO, YOU KNOW, CAN'T REALLY DARKEN IT, UH, BECAUSE IT'S JUST A FONT.

BUT, UH, PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER CHANGING THAT COLOR TO PURPLE OR THE, THE, THE CITY LIVERMORE COLOR, UH, THAT THE CITY OF LIVERMORE IS IN COLOR, BUT LEAVE MAYBE THE LEAF IN THE, IN THE, UM, KIND OF GOLDISH COLOR, UM, MIGHT BE MY RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT.

AND THAT KIND OF MATCHES THE LETTERING THAT IS IN THE CITY'S, UM, OWN, YOU KNOW, LOGO, WHICH IS THE PURPLE WITH THE, UH, WITH THE GOLD LEAF.

SO IT'S KIND OF SIMILAR AND IT KEEPS THAT, AND THAT COULD POTENTIALLY MAKE IT, UM, BOLDER.

SO IT'D BE AN OPTION WE CAN MAKE THAT AS A, A RECOMMENDATION IN OUR, UM, IN OUR APPROVAL.

UM, DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? YEAH, YEAH.

NO, NO.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DISCUSS.

WAIT, HERE, TAKE THE MIC SO THEY CAN HEAR YOU.

SO YOU TALK ABOUT THE CITY, HIS CLOSER, CLOSER, YOU TALK ABOUT THE CITY HISTORIAN, RIGHT? WE DO HAVE A CITY HISTORIAN AND HIS NAME IS NOT MENTIONED.

IS IT POSSIBLE TO MENTION THE CITY HISTORIAN'S NAME, OR WAS IT DECIDED TO JUST LEAVE IT AS A CITY HISTORIAN? BECAUSE IT SAYS THE CITY HISTORIAN'S ROLE, WHO IS THE CITY HISTORIAN IS MY QUESTION, RIGHT? YES.

UM, THE, THE, OUR CITY HISTORIAN, X, Y, AND Z, BLAH, BLAH, YOU CAN JUST START LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND THERE YOU HAVE INTRODUCED A CITY HISTORIAN.

IT IS AN OPTION.

UH, THE, THE IDEA WAS TO NOT, UH, HAVE, NOT TO MODIFY THIS BROCHURE OVER TIME AS THE CITY HISTORIAN CHANGES.

OKAY.

THAT'S A FAIR ENOUGH, FAIR ENOUGH QUESTION.

THE OTHER, WAIT, UM, YEAH, THE OTHER THING IS, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE THIRD, THIRD LEAF UHHUH , FOR EXAMPLE, THE BANK OF ITALY, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT WE HAD THE BANK OF ITALY.

WHAT'S THE ADDRESS? ? IT'S RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF, UM, LIVERMORE AVENUE AND FIRST STREET.

UM, I'M NOT SURE OF THE ACTUAL, UH, STREET

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ADDRESS.

OH, YEAH.

BECAUSE HISTORY BUFFS LIKE ME MAY WANT TO GO AND VISIT HIM.

, IT'S JUST .

YEAH.

WE RECOMMEND THAT IT'S, UH, YEAH, RIGHT, RIGHT IN DOWNTOWN.

SO IS IT POSSIBLE TO PUT THE ADDRESS AT ALL, OR NO, IT'S AN, IT IS AN OPTION THAT, THAT THE HPC CAN, CAN CONSIDER AND DIRECT STAFF ON, UH, OKAY.

ADDRESSES SOMETIMES DO, ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE.

UM, YEAH.

OKAY.

JUST MY THOUGHTS.

THANKS.

OH, PLAY, PLAY MICROPHONES AGAIN.

YEAH.

DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? I SAW YOU.

YEAH, SURE.

OKAY.

JUST GO AHEAD.

ON THE VERY BACK PAGE WHERE THERE'S A PICTURE OF THE RAVENSWOOD ESTATE IN THE VENA WINERY, IT DOES HAVE A DARKENED VERSION OF, OF, OF THE FRONT FONT.

JUST GIVES A LITTLE BETTER IDEA.

THAT'S TRUE.

THAT'S ALL TALKING ABOUT THIS, RIGHT? YEAH, IT'S GRAY.

THAT'S, YEAH, IT'S GRAY TO KIND OF GO WITH THE, THE BLACK LANGUAGE OF THE, THE TEXT ON THE BACK I THINK IS WHAT'S WAS THE IDEA.

AT LEAST THAT'S MY INTERPRETATION WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE DRAFTS BEFORE.

SO, UM, OKAY.

I HAVE MORE COMMENT.

OH, YEAH.

GO.

PLEASE GO RIGHT AHEAD.

AND I, I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW GREAT THE WORK IS GOING.

WE UNDERSTAND WE'RE PROVING A DRAFT AND THAT WE KNOW THAT, UH, THE THINGS WILL BE CHANGED AT THE YARD, BUT, UH, I DON'T WANNA TAKE AWAY FROM THE OPPORTUNITY OF HOW MUCH WORK WAS INVOLVED WITH THIS TO LIMIT OR KEEP OUT OR TO PUT IN.

AND SO I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR HOW HARD YOU'VE WORKED FOR THIS.

THANK YOU.

AS WE BEAT YOU DOWN, I APOLOGIZE, .

WELL, YOU JUST, UH, UH, TO CLARIFY THAT WE, WE, WE DO REFER TO DO THIS AS A DRAFT IN THE STAFF REPORT, BUT THIS IS THE, THE FINAL DRAFT THAT FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSE WILL BE, WILL BE USED IF THE HPC WERE TO APPROVE IT TONIGHT.

OF COURSE, WITH ANY, UH, EDITS AND SUGGESTIONS YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE.

RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, THE WINNER IS THE MAP OF .

YEAH.

THAT, THAT GRAPHIC'S TAKEN FROM THE CITY'S, UH, STORE CONTEXT STATEMENT.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.

SO I TOOK DOWN, I'VE GOT TWO AMENDING COMMENTS, UH, TO DO TONIGHT.

UH, THE FIRST ONE, AND I'LL MAKE THIS FORMAL, BUT I JUST WANT TO THROW IT OUT THERE IN CASE I, JUST TO MAKE SURE I HAVE IT RIGHT, IS, UM, UH, RECOMMENDING THAT THE STAFF, UM, WORK AT ADJUSTING THE JUSTIFICATION OF THE TEXT.

AND THAT IS, UH, MAYBE I NEED TO RESTATE THAT.

UM, WE'RE NOT SUGGESTING THAT YOU GO TO A LEFT JUSTIFIED TEXT, BUT TO TRY AND ADJUST THE SPACING OF THE JUSTIFIED TEXT, IF THAT'S, MAYBE I'LL, I'LL TRY AND FORMALIZE THAT.

THAT WAS THE ONE THING I HEARD TONIGHT.

UM, AND THEN I THINK THE SECOND RECOMMENDATION WAS TO DARKEN THE COLOR OF THE, UH, ON THE FRONT OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAM, UM, WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF POSSIBLY MAKING IT IN THE SAME, UM, I'LL SAY PURPLE COLOR OF THE CITY LOGO.

UM, THOSE WERE THE TWO AMENDING MOTIONS THAT I HEARD.

IS THAT, IS THERE, WERE THERE ANY OTHERS THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SUGGESTIONS ON? NO.

OKAY.

SO WITH THAT, UM, I'LL MAKE THE FIRST AMENDING, UH, RE FIRST AMENDING MOTION ITEM .

IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE DONE THESE .

UM, FIRST ONE IS TO RECOMMEND CITY STAFF, UM, ADJUST THE JUSTIFICATION OF THE TEXT TO MINIMIZE THE LARGE SPACING BETWEEN SOME OF THE WORDS WITHOUT, UM, UH, DOING A LEFT JUSTIFIED TEXT.

DOES THAT MAKE S DOES THAT CLEAR? OKAY.

UM, SO, UM, AND TYPICALLY WE KIND OF VOTE ON THESE ONE BY ONE, OR SHOULD I STATE 'EM BOTH AND THEN WE'LL GO WORK BACKWARDS AND VOTE ON EACH ONE.

IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE DONE THE AMENDING MOTIONS.

SO YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PROJECT WITH BOTH OF THE AMENDMENTS AND VOTE ALL ON OH, VOTE ALL AT ONCE.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO VOTE ON EACH AMENDING MOTION FIRST, AND I'LL DO THAT.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

THAT'S CHANGED A LITTLE BIT OVER.

IT'S CHANGED.

YEAH.

BUT WE CAN PUT 'EM TOGETHER.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT I'M AN OLD DOG AND THAT'S THE OLD WAY WE USED TO DO THAT.

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OKAY.

I GET IT.

I SEE HOW IT IS.

ALL RIGHT, .

ALL RIGHT.

SO THEN IN THAT CASE, I'LL MAKE THE SECOND AMENDING MOTION TO, UH, RECOMMEND, UH, STA OR THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDS TO DARKEN, UH, THE COLOR OF THE FONT, UM, HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROGRAM ON THE FRONT, UH, PAGE, UH, WITH A, UH, RECOMMENDATION TO, UH, POSSIBLY MAKE IT IN THE PURPLE COLOR OF THE CITY LOGO.

SO THAT'S OUR SECOND AMENDING MOTION.

UM, SO THEN WITH THAT, I WOULD CALL FOR, UM, A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE MAIN ITEM PLUS THE TWO AMENDING MOTIONS.

SO IF SOMEBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION OR MOTION.

MOTION.

THANK YOU.

SECOND? NO, NOT YET.

UH, MOTION.

OKAY.

SO COMMISSIONER CAULFIELD MOTIONS.

THE, UH, MAIN ITEM PLUS THE TWO AMENDING MOTION ITEMS. UH, DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

OKAY.

SO COMMISSIONER HANNON SECONDS IT.

AND SO WITH THAT, I WILL CALL FOR STAFF FOR, UM, A VOTE ON THE, ON THE WHOLE THING.

COMMISSIONER CAULFIELD? YES.

COMMISSIONER CURTIS? YES.

COMMISSIONER NADI? YES.

VICE CHAIR HANNON? YES.

AND CHAIRPERSON PAN APPROVED.

ALL RIGHT, YOUR HONOR.

ALRIGHT, SO WITH THAT, WE NOW MOVE FORWARD TO OUR THIRD ITEM FOR TONIGHT.

GOSH, WE GOT A BUSY NIGHT.

UM, YES, THAT'S THIS ONE.

OKAY.

SO NEXT ITEM UP.

ITEM 6.3 IS OUR 2026 WORK PLAN.

UPDATE.

SO STAFF, MM-HMM .

OVER TO YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS ITEM DOES NOT REQUIRE A DECISION, SO YOU'RE JUST RECEIVING THE, THE UPDATE FROM STAFF.

UM, AND ON FEBRUARY 5TH AT OUR PREVIOUS MEETING, UM, STAFF GAVE A PRESENTATION TO DESCRIBE THE NEXT STEPS FOR THE UPCOMING WORK PLAN ITEMS, UM, INCLUDING OVERVIEWS, UM, SUBCOMMITTEE RESPONSIBILITIES, UM, FREQUENCY AND TARGET CHECK-INS AND DEADLINES FOR EACH ITEM.

UM, AND THEN MOVING FORWARD IN MARCH OF 2020, STAFF, SORRY, 2026, UM, STAFF PREPARED CHARTERS FOR, UM, WORK PLAN ITEMS THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE, WHICH EACH CONTAINED AN OBJECTIVE, BACKGROUND, TASKS AND TENTATIVE SCHEDULE TO COMPLETE THAT.

UM, WORK PLAN ITEM ITEMS THREE AND FIVE.

UM, THOSE CHARTERS WERE SHARED WITH THE RESPECTIVE SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS ON MARCH 13TH, AND THE ITEM FOUR CHARTER IS INCLUDED WITH THIS STAFF REPORT.

UM, AND REFLECTS THAT AS OF THIS MEETING THAT, UM, ITEM FOUR, THE BROCHURE IS COMPLETE.

UM, AND AS OF LAST WEEK, THE KICKOFF MEETINGS FOR BOTH ITEM THREE AND ITEM FIVE HAVE BEEN SCHEDULED WITH THE RESPECTIVE SUBCOMMITTEES.

AND WE'RE AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THE CHARTERS.

ALRIGHT.

THAT'S GREAT.

THANK YOU.

UM, THANK YOU FOR KEEPING US, UH, ON OUR TOES AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS COMMISSION ON OUR WORK PLAN ITEMS. SO, UM, I'M GONNA ASK THE FIRST QUESTION, WHICH WAS, SO ITEMS THREE AND FOUR, THE, THE, UM, UH, CAN YOU GIVE US A RECAP OF THE KIND OF SCHEDULE THAT WE HAVE FOR THE REST OF 2026, UH, ANTICIPATED SCHEDULE FOR THESE ITEMS? YES.

ITEM THREE IS THE PRIORITIZATION OF POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES.

UM, THAT ONE I'M WORKING WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEES TO MEET, UM, A FEW TIMES OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS WITH A CHECK-IN FOR THE WHOLE COMMISSION IN AUGUST, AND THEN HOPEFULLY APPROVAL IN OCTOBER.

OKAY.

UM, AND ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS THE, UH, RESOURCE NOMINATION TO THE STATE AND OR NATIONAL REGISTER.

UM, AGAIN, MEETING A FEW TIMES WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEES OVER THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS AND TARGETING JUNE FOR AN UPDATE TO THE COMMISSION AND AUGUST FOR APPROVAL.

OKAY.

GREAT.

UM, THEN, UH, ONE OTHER LAST QUESTION THEN WOULD BE, UM, AT WHAT POINT LATER THIS YEAR WOULD WE START LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY EITHER, I DON'T, I KNOW WE HAD A LIST OF A BUNCH OF ITEMS. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GETTING THROUGH ALL OF THEM THIS YEAR, OR IF THERE'S FURTHER ONES THAT MAYBE IN A MEETING LATER THIS YEAR.

WE WILL LOOK AT CREATING SUBCOMMITTEES FOR THOSE AS WE WRAP THESE OTHERS UP.

UH, COME, UH, YOU KNOW, OCTOBER THIS YEAR MM-HMM .

UM, OF THE ITEMS ON THE APPROVED WORK PLAN.

THESE ARE, UM, ALL THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE ARE THE, THE, WELL I GUESS FOUR IS NOW COMPLETED.

SO THREE AND FIVE ARE THE TWO LEFT UNCOMPLETE, UM, UNCOMPLETED.

AND SO AFTER, UM, THREE AND FIVE HAVE BEEN COMPLETE, UM, THE MEETING

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AFTER THAT IS LIKELY WHEN WE WOULD LOOK AT, UM, ADDING NEW, UH, NEW ITEMS TO THE WORK PLAN.

AND AT THE MEETING WHERE WE COMPLETE THE LAST ITEM, WHICH WOULD BE NUMBER THREE IN OCTOBER, IF, IF WE'RE TARGETING THAT MM-HMM .

UM, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS FOR POTENTIAL WORK PLAN ITEMS MATTERS IN INITIATED WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO BRING THAT UP.

SO STAFF HAS TIME TO DO SOME RESEARCH AND POTENTIALLY ADD THAT TO THE DRAFT WORK PLAN FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

OKAY.

PERFECT.

GREAT.

THAT GIVES, KIND OF GIVES US AN IDEA.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL'S AWARE THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH OUR WORK PLAN ITEMS AND THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE, WE'RE GONNA BE ADDING THE GOAL IS BY THE END OF THE YEAR TO ADD ADDITIONAL WORK PLAN ITEMS FOR 2027.

YES.

UH, 'CAUSE I KNOW THE COMMISSIONS, UH, OR THE, THE COUNCIL, ONE OF THE COUNCIL'S GOALS WITH THESE COMMISSIONS IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING STUFF SINCE WE'RE NOT RECEIVING AS MANY KIND OF, UM, WORK ITEMS FROM THE PUBLIC AS MUCH ANYMORE, SO MM-HMM .

UM, OKAY.

GREAT.

UH, THOSE WERE MY QUESTIONS.

UH, TURN TO THE REST OF US HERE.

DID ANYBODY HERE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM OR ON THE WORK, WORK PLANS OR ANYTHING? GOOD, GOOD.

YOURSELF? NO.

GOOD? NO QUESTION.

UH, NO QUESTION.

OKAY.

AND JUST A QUICK REMINDER CHAIR, IF YOU WANTED TO OPEN THIS ITEM UP TO PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL.

OH YES, OF COURSE.

UM, I THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME.

SO WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN UP ITEM 6.3, THE 2026 WORK PLAN UPDATE TO THE PUBLIC, IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON OUR WORK PLAN ITEMS. AND I SEE A NO.

SO, OKAY, GREAT.

I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC, UH, PORTION OF THIS ONE AND BRING IT BACK UP HERE.

UM, AND AS YOU MENTIONED, THERE'S NO VOTING, WE'RE NOT APPROVING ANYTHING ON THIS ONE, SO WE'LL JUST MOVE FORWARD THEN, UH, PAST 6.3

[7. COMMISSION REPORTS AND MATTERS INITIATED BY HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, STAFF, AND CITY HISTORIAN.]

TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

AND THIS IS THE COMMISSION REPORTS AND MATTERS INITIATED BY HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION STAFF OR CITY HISTORIAN, WHICH IS, I'VE HEARD EARLIER WAS ON VACATION.

SO HE WILL NOT BE ADDING ANYTHING.

BUT I BELIEVE FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING WE DID HAVE ANO AN ITEM THAT WANTED TO BE DISCUSSED AS FOR MATTERS INITIATED POTENTIALLY.

SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO COMMISSIONER H HANNON.

THANK YOU.

UM, WHAT THIS CONS CON IS CONCERNED WITH IS THAT ON A COUPLE YEARS AGO, UM, I WAS VISITING AN OPEN HOUSE AND THEY HAD THE OWNERS OF THE HOUSE HAD FOUND BEHIND ONE OF THE, UM, ONE OF THEIR PIECES OF FURNITURE, UH, A BUNCH OF HISTORICAL PICTURES, ET CETERA.

MM-HMM .

UM, I GAVE THAT INFORMATION TO, UH, UH, HISTORIAN FINN MM-HMM .

AND I DON'T THINK ANYTHING HAPPENED AFTER THAT.

AND OF COURSE HE'S PASSED AWAY.

UM, BUT I HEARD IT MENTIONED IN PASSING RECENTLY, MAYBE WITHIN THE LAST MONTH.

DOES ANYBODY RECALL HEARING ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? COMMISSIONER HAD QUESTION.

WHAT DOES, WHAT DOES IN THE MIC, PLEASE? OH, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE? WHAT, WHAT IS THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH? I'M NOT VERY CLEAR ON WHAT IT IS.

OKAY.

THEY FOUND SOMETHING HISTORIC IN THE BACK OF A BUREAU OR SOMETHING.

NOW WHAT IS IT THAT WE'D HAVE TO SEE IT TO KNOW EXACTLY IF IT'S SIGNIFICANT OR NOT? UM, WHAT I'D MAYBE RECOMMEND, 'CAUSE THIS DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT'S SOMETHING FOR STAFF TO NECESSARILY DO AT THIS STAGE, BUT IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEY, AND WHAT I'D MAYBE RECOMMEND IS THEY, YOU OR, UM, THIS PERSON CONTACT, UM, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OR, UM, HERITAGE GUILD.

HERITAGE GUILD, THANK YOU.

THE HERITAGE GUILD.

UM, BECAUSE THEY, THEY DO, UH, HAVE THE RESOURCES TO LOOK AT THAT, UH, AND THE EXPERTISE OF SOME OF THE MEMBERS TO, UH, KIND OF REVIEW THIS MATERIAL.

UM, AND THEY WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S, IT'S, UH, SOMETHING HISTORIC AND, AND WORTHWHILE AND PERHAPS IMAGES THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, NOBODY'S UNEARTHED BEFORE, UM, THEY WOULD, I'M SURE VERY MUCH LIKE TO HAVE THAT FOR THEIR OWN, UM, UH, ARCHIVES.

UM, AND THEN IF THERE'S ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT, UM, WITH THAT, I KNOW OUR CITY HISTORIAN IS ALSO A MEMBER OF THAT, UM, ORGANIZATION AND THAT THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT, UH, HE BRINGS TO US AND, UH, PERHAPS TURNS OVER TO THE CITY OR AT LEAST MAKES THE CITY AWARE OF AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT.

AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO RAISE TO THE STAFFS.

UM, UM, SOMETHING TO PUT ON THEIR AGENDA ITEM

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FOR RIGHT NOW.

YEAH.

IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK INTO AND SEE WHAT, WELL, I, I'D SUGGEST THEY, THEY CONTACT THE HERITAGE GUILD AND THEN THEY CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT FIRST.

I DON'T RE I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION AS WHO IT WAS.

OH, GOT IT.

THE HOUSE I THINK WAS ON EITHER SIXTH OR EIGHTH STREET AND MIKE, MIKE, OH, THE HOUSE WAS ON EITHER SIXTH OR EIGHTH STREET.

UM, I COULD CHECK WITH THE HISTORICAL GUILD AND SEE IF THEY'VE THE HERITAGE GUILD.

HERITAGE GUILD, THE HERITAGE GUILD, YEAH.

AND SEE IF THEY'VE GOT ANYTHING.

YEAH.

THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION AND SEE IF THEY, IF THEY CAN, I DID REMEMBER A LITTLE BIT OF IT.

IT HAD, IT HAD TO DO WITH SHE WAS THIS, UH, A SCHOOL TEACHER AND WITH THE WHOLE SCHOOL MOVING OVER TO THIS SIDE, UH, MIGHT BE WORTHWHILE.

YEAH, NO, ABSOLUTELY.

DEFINITELY WORTHWHILE.

UM, BUT I WOULD GET, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT YOU CAN, UH, FIND OR, AND OR REMEMBER AND THEN CONTACT THE HERITAGE GUILD.

THAT WOULD SOUNDS LIKE THE BE RIGHT UP, UH, UH, KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE WERE, WHAT THEY'RE VERY GOOD AT.

OKAY.

SOUNDS GOOD.

EXCELLENT.

UH, ANYONE ELSE WITH, UH, ITEMS TO INITIATE FOR STAFF AT THIS POINT? NO, I SEE SHAKING HEADS HERE.

OKAY.

UM, STAFF, ANYTHING TO LET US KNOW? YES, I HAVE TWO ITEMS. UM, AT OUR LAST MEETING, THE CITY HISTORIAN AND THE COMMISSION HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, EVENTS RELATED TO THE CITY'S HUNDRED AND 50TH ANNIVERSARY.

UM, AND ONE, SO THERE'S MULTIPLE EVENTS THAT, UH, THE CITY IS PROMOTING.

UH, THIS WEEK THERE'S AN ANNOUNCEMENT GOING OUT.

UM, TWO OF THEM ARE CITY SPONSORED EVENTS.

ONE, JEFF, THE CITY HISTORIAN MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING IS THE HUNDRED AND 25TH LIGHT BULB ANNIVERSARY.

AND THAT ONE'S GOING TO BE HELD ON JUNE 6TH FROM 10:00 AM TO 2:00 PM AT FIRE STATION SIX ON EAST AVENUE.

AND THAT ONE IS MAINLY, UM, ORCHESTRATED BY THE LIGHT BULB COMMITTEE, WHICH HAS MEMBERS FROM STAFF AND THE HERITAGE GUILD AND THE PUBLIC.

UM, BUT CITY STAFF IS SUPPORTING THAT ONE.

UH, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS THE CITY'S MAIN EVENT, WHICH WILL TAKE PLACE ON JUNE 26TH FROM FIVE TO EIGHT, UM, IN LIVERMORE AND PLAZA.

UM, AND I SPOKE WITH, UM, SOME OF OUR STAFF IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE WHO'S COORDINATING THIS EVENT.

UM, AND THERE'S SOME, UM, OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMISSION TO BE INVOLVED IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

OH, UM, UH, POTENTIALLY HAVING A BOOTH OR A TABLE AT THAT LOCATION WHERE WE COULD TALK ABOUT WHAT THE COMMISSION DOES.

THE BROCHURE IS A GREAT SHOW OFF OUR BROCHURE EXAMPLE FOR, FOR THAT AS WELL AS THE, THE PLAQUE PROGRAM HANDOUT TO KIND OF GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT WHAT THE COMMISSION DOES.

UM, CAN WE HAVE A PLAQUE ON DISPLAY WITH US? THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE HAD AS WELL.

I'M NOT SURE THAT WE HAVE ANY ON HAND BECAUSE MOST OF THEM ARE MOUNTED TO BUILDINGS.

OKAY.

UM, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF , IF WE HAVE ANY, BUT, UM, WE COULD HAVE PICTURES MAY MAYBE THE ONE WE APPROVED TONIGHT, WE CAN HOLD BACK AND NOT OH, GIVE THEM UNTIL JUNE AND SHOW IT AS AN EXAMPLE.

.

UM, WE, I WAS COORDINATING WITH THE, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND WE WERE THINKING OF AT LEAST HAVING A, A PICTURE OF A PLAQUE YEAH.

UM, TO SHOW.

WELL, WE CAN ALSO POINT OUT THE PLAQUE THAT WILL BE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH IS AT THE FLAGPOLE THERE.

SO, YES.

YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT AS WELL.

SO IF ANYONE IS, IS INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING IN THAT, PLEASE REACH OUT TO ME AND THEN I CAN CONNECT YOU WITH, WITH SONYA IN THE CITY, IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

UM, AND THEN MY OTHER ONE IS ANOTHER UPDATE ON A HISTORIC RELATED PROJECT THAT JESSE RECENTLY COMPLETED, UM, IS THE MIDWAY SCHOOL PROJECT AT HAYMAN RANCH.

UM, IT WAS APPROVED EARLIER THIS WEEK, UM, AND IT WAS A PROJECT THAT THE HERITAGE GUILD HAD SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION FOR IN DECEMBER OF 2025.

IT INVOLVES THE RELOCATION OF A, HIS HISTORIC MIDWAY SCHOOL BUILDING FROM ITS CURRENT, UM, ALTAMONT HILL SITE TO HAGERMAN RANCH PARK.

UM, THIS BUILDING WILL SERVE AS AN EDUCATIONAL RESOURCE FOR LOCAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STUDENTS AND THE PUBLIC THROUGH HISTORIC REENACTMENTS RELEVANT TO THAT SCHOOL'S PERIOD OF SIGNIFICANCE, WHICH IS THE LATE 18 HUNDREDS TO EARLY 19 HUNDREDS.

UM, AND WITH THIS PLANNING APPROVAL, THE HERITAGE GUILD WILL NOW, UH, MOVE FORWARD WITH PROJECT FUNDRAISING AND THE SUBSEQUENT CITY BUILDING PERMITTING PROCESS.

WOW.

THAT IS A PROJECT I KNOW JEFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON FOR MORE THAN 15 YEARS.

MM-HMM .

VERY EXCITING.

SO THAT'S GREAT TO HEAR.

UM, YEAH, I KNOW PERSONALLY MYSELF, I, UH, I WOULD ENJOY BEING, UH, A PART OF THAT, THAT, SO PLEASE, UH, PASS ALONG MY INFORMATION AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO, IT WOULD BE KIND OF FUN TO, TO BE THERE AS A GROUP AND, YOU KNOW, KIND

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OF PROMOTE THE HISTORY OF LIVERMORE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE CELEBRATING.

SO YES, WE MAY, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY OF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN, WE MAY HAVE TO DO SHIFTS OR OKAY.

DIFFERENT, UM, LOCATIONS.

'CAUSE BECAUSE OF THE BROWN ACT AND IF THERE ARE MORE THAN THREE OF YOU IN ONE PLACE, THEN WE HAVE A QUORUM.

I BELIEVE WE'RE STILL ALLOWED AT LIKE, PUBLIC TO AT, AT DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS.

WE CAN, WE CAN ALL BE PRESENT.

OKAY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I THINK, YEAH.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE DO THAT AT THE, AT THE DINNER, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ANNUAL DINNER, WE ALL SIT AT THE SAME TABLE.

WE JUST KNOW WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT POTENTIAL FUTURE PROJECTS OR ANYTHING.

YEAH.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A LOT.

I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT.

WE'LL DOUBLE CHECK, BUT I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY STILL HAVE, IF THREE OR FOUR OF YOU WANT TO BE THERE, WE COULD STILL PROBABLY GET YOU TOGETHER.

YEAH.

UH, SHIFTS.

OR ONE, HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS CAN WORK WITH EMILY ON THAT, BUT LOVE TO HAVE YOU ALL PARTICIPATE IF YOU CAN.

EVEN IF IT'S FOR FULL PART OF IT, I, IT'D BE, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING, 'CAUSE I, AGAIN, I MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT THE COUNCIL, UM, YOU KNOW, TO SUPPORT THESE DIFFERENT COMMISSIONS THAT DON'T HAVE A HUGE AUDIENCE THAT ATTEND TO, UM, I THINK IT'D BE GREAT PROMOTION FOR OUR OWN COMMISSION AND SHOW THE CITY THAT HEY, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE, WE ARE NOT ONLY SPENDING OUR EVENINGS, UH, AND TIME DOING THIS, UH, BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, BUT IT'D BE A GOOD PROMOTION FOR THE REST.

LIKE, HEY, THESE THINGS HAPPEN.

AND, UM, AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT WE DO THAT I THINK A LOT OF THE PUBLIC DOESN'T REALIZE HAPPENS.

MM-HMM.

YOU KNOW, THEY MAY WALK BY A BUILDING OR THEY WALK BY THE FLAGPOLE ALL THE TIME AND THEY SEE THAT PLAQUE THAT'S THERE AND DON'T EVEN REALIZE, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT PLAQUE CAME THROUGH THIS COMMISSION AND WAS ACTUALLY, UM, UH, STARTED BECAUSE OF A COMMENT FROM THIS COMMISSION AND THAT STARTED THE WHOLE BALL ROLLING.

OTHERWISE THERE WOULDN'T BE A PLAQUE THERE TODAY.

SO THAT THE, THE, YOU KNOW, SO IT'D BE, IT'D BE GREAT PROMOTION.

AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL OF US TO TRY AND BE INVOLVED WITH THAT IF WE CAN.

SURE.

YOU WANNA TO ME ONE MORE TIME, THE TIME AND THE DATE OF THAT? YES.

YEAH.

JUST FOR INFORMATION AGAIN, THE DATE FOR THAT ONE IS JUNE 27TH, SIXTH, WHICH A FRIDAY.

AND IT'S FIVE TO 8:00 PM AT LIVERMORE AND PLAZA.

AND I'M SURE THERE'LL BE LOTS OF PROMOTION ABOUT THAT.

YES.

IN THE MEANTIME MM-HMM .

AND SO I'LL, I'LL PASS EVERYONE'S INFORMATION ON TO, TO SONIA IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND OKAY.

SHE CAN GET SOME MORE INFORMATION AND I'LL WORK WITH HER AS WELL.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

UM, ANYTHING ELSE FROM STAFF? THAT WAS IT FOR ME.

THAT WAS IT.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

UM, NOTHING FROM HERE, I GUESS.

SO, UM, NEXT ITEM WOULD BE ITEM EIGHT, ADJOURNMENT.

UH, SO I'M GONNA ADJOURN THIS MEETING UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS SCHEDULED FOR THURSDAY, MAY 7TH, 2026 AT 7:00 PM THANK YOU EVERYONE.

ARE YOU GONNA.