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HERE WE GO.

GOOD

[1. CALL TO ORDER ]

EVENING.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME.

WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO COME BACK TOGETHER.

OH MY GOSH, I HAVEN'T, I HAVE NOT SEEN, UH, OUR PROJECT TEAM, OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS, AND, UH, A FEW FAMILIAR FACES FROM THE PUBLIC.

SO I WANNA CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

UM, SO FIRST WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK DEBBIE TO HELP US WITH ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

CHAIR PERSON.

UH, COMMITTEE MEMBER ALEXI.

HERE.

COMMITTEE MEMBER BCHA.

COMMITTEE MEMBER BURNHAM.

COMMITTEE MEMBER CHONG.

COMMITTEE MEMBER HALVERSON.

HERE.

COMMITTEE MEMBER KENT.

HERE.

COMMITTEE MEMBER LADON.

HERE.

COMMITTEE MEMBER PETE HERE.

COMMITTEE MEMBER VOLTA.

HERE.

COMMITTEE MEMBER STROUT, VICE CHAIRPERSON.

TROOP MOSSI HERE.

AND CHAIRPERSON CHANG.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[3. SPECIAL MEETING WORKSHOP ITEM ]

I JUST WANNA MAKE A QUICK ANNOUNCEMENT THAT, UH, THIS IS A SPECIAL MEETING FOR THE GENERAL PLAN.

THEREFORE, THERE'S NO OPEN, UH, PUBLIC FORUM FOR THE EVENING.

AND THERE'S ONLY ONE AGENDA ITEM.

HOWEVER, THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE COMMENT ON THAT.

UH, AGENDA ITEM AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PROJECT TEAM AND CITY STAFF'S PRESENTATION, UH, I JUST WANNA ALSO ADD THAT, UH, THE SEQUENCE WE'LL HAVE TONIGHT IS THE PROJECT TEAM WILL MAKE A PRESENTATION AND, UH, THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS PLEASE HOLD, UH, YOUR QUESTIONS, ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS, UH, UNTIL AFTER THE PUBLIC, UM, HAS A CHANCE, UH, TO PROVIDE THEIR FEEDBACK AND COMMENTS.

SO WE WILL HAVE A, A CHANCE TO, UH, TO GIVE, UH, TO ASK OUR OWN CLARIFYING QUESTIONS IN THIS MEETING AND ALSO IN THE APRIL MEETING.

AND, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS PLEASE, UH, CONTINUE TO, UH, NOTE YOUR FEEDBACK IN TERMS OF ANY POSSIBLE, UH, SUGGESTIONS, UH, REGARDING, UM, THE CONTENT, THE POLICY.

SO NEXT MEETING, PERHAPS NOT SO MUCH IN THIS MEETING.

NEXT MEETING, WE WILL MAKE A FORMAL, UM, SUMMARY OF OUR DISCUSSION, UH, AS OUR FEEDBACK.

SO, SO PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND IN THIS MEETING, BUT CARRY THAT ON TO THE NEXT MEETING.

AND IF YOU CAN BE HERE NEXT MEETING, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PUT YOUR FEEDBACK IN WRITING AT ANY TIME, REALLY.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE THAT TO THE PROJECT TEAM, TO ANY ONE OF US IF YOU CAN MAKE IT IN THE NEXT MEETING.

SO, UM, THAT'S JUST MY QUICK NOTE.

SO HERE, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO ANDY.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, CHAIR PERSON CHANG.

AND, UH, GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

ANDY ROSS, UH, PRINCIPAL PLANNER, YOUR PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE GENERAL PLAN.

UH, WE'RE EXCITED TO BE BACK HERE WITH YOU AFTER A SHORT OR NOT SO SHORT HIATUS.

UM, BUT WE'VE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY ON YOUR, UH, DRAFT GENERAL PLAN, AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE THIS EVENING TO SHARE THAT DOCUMENT WITH YOU.

UH, A LOT OF, UH, YOUR WORK ENERGY AND INPUT ARE REPRESENTED IN THIS DOCUMENT.

AND SO WITH THAT, I'LL HAND IT OVER TO JOANNA.

SHE'S GONNA GIVE US A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF WHAT'S IN THE DRAFT GENERAL PLAN.

AND AS YOU MENTIONED CHAIRPERSON AT THE CLOSE OF PUBLIC COMMENT, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

YOU'VE HAD THE DOCUMENT FOR A WEEK OR SO NOW.

WE RECOMMEND YOU CONTINUE REVIEWING IT SO THAT IN APRIL WHEN WE COME BACK, WE CAN, UM, GET YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, TO COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION, AND WE'LL COLLECT ANY FEEDBACK YOU MIGHT HAVE AT THAT TIME FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION.

UH, WITH THAT, HERE'S JOANNA JANSSEN.

GREAT, THANK YOU, ANDY.

IT'S REALLY EXCITING TO BE BACK WITH YOU AGAIN.

AS ANDY SAID, I'M JOANNA JANSEN FROM PLACE WORKS.

WE'RE THE CONSULTANT, UM, SUPPORTING THE CITY IN THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE.

UM, AND SO I'M GONNA START OUT WITH AN OVERVIEW, A LOT OF WHICH WILL LOOK FAMILIAR TO YOU.

UM, AND THEN WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE SPECIFICS IN THE GENERAL PLAN.

AND I JUST WANNA ECHO WHAT CHAIRPERSON CHANG AND ANDY HAVE ALREADY SAID, WHICH IS, WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO MAKE ANY DECISIONS TONIGHT.

WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO TAKE ANY ACTION TONIGHT.

WE'RE REALLY JUST HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AND HELP MAKE SURE THAT YOU FEEL SOLIDLY GROUNDED IN THE GENERAL PLAN, UM, AS A DOCUMENT AND ALSO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, UH, THAT IT'S GONNA BE GOING THROUGH OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.

UM, SO WE'RE JUST REALLY HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.

I'M GONNA GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT.

WE'RE GONNA, UM, DO A PRESENTATION THAT REALLY FOCUSES ON THE ISSUES THAT THIS COMMITTEE SPENT THE MOST TIME, UM, TALKING ABOUT, AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND

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THE NEXT STEPS IN THE PROCESS AS WELL.

UM, SO WE'RE IN GREAT SHAPE HERE.

WE'VE COMPLETED MOST OF OUR PROJECT TASKS, AS YOU RECALL.

THAT INCLUDED A VISION, WHICH WE'LL READ IN JUST A SECOND.

UM, LAND USE ALTERNATIVES.

WE UPDATED THE HOUSING ELEMENT, WE DEVELOPED POLICIES, AND NOW WE HAVE, UM, ALL THAT WORK HAS CULMINATED IN THE PUBLICATION OF A DRAFT GENERAL PLAN, UM, AND AS OF YESTERDAY, AND EIR ON THE GENERAL PLAN AS WELL.

SO NOW THAT THE DRAFT GENERAL PLAN IS PUBLISHED, WE'RE GOING TO BE CONDUCTING, UM, COMMUNITY OUTREACH OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

UH, AND JUST UNDER TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY, WE'LL BE HAVING AN OPEN HOUSE AND THAT'LL HAVE A DIFFERENT, UM, STATIONS WHERE FOLKS CAN KIND OF DROP IN, SPEND AS MUCH OR AS LITTLE TIME AS THEY WANT TO AT DIFFERENT STATIONS THAT ARE OF INTEREST TO THEM.

IT'S GONNA BE, I THINK, FIVE 30 TO SEVEN 30.

UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, YOU CAN SPEND AS MUCH OR AS LITTLE TIME AS YOU WANT TO, UM, AND WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO MAKE IT AS CONVENIENT, UM, AND ENGAGING AS POSSIBLE.

THERE'S ALSO AN ONLINE ACTIVITY AT IMAGINE LIVERMORE 2045.

UM, THAT TAKES THE FORM OF A PDF.

THAT IS, UM, YOU CAN COMMENT ON, ON THE DRAFT GENERAL PLAN DOCUMENT.

SO YOU CAN REALLY JUST CLICK ON THAT DOCUMENT AND KIND OF DROP YOUR COMMENT ANYWHERE.

IT COULD BE A COMMENT ABOUT POLICY, WORDING ABOUT A PICTURE CHOICE.

IF YOU FIND A TYPO, UM, ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT, UH, YOU CAN, YOU CAN DO THAT ONLINE.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO EXPLORING POSSIBILITIES FOR POPUPS AT PLACES LIKE THE FARMER'S MARKET AND MAYBE SOME BOOTHS OR BANNERS, UM, AT THE LIBRARY, UH, TO HELP GET THE WORD OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.

WE'RE HAVING TWO GPAC MEETINGS.

THIS IS THE FIRST ONE AND THE NEXT ONE ON APRIL 1ST, UM, WHERE WE'LL BE ASKING FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN WE'LL BE TAKING YOUR FEEDBACK AND COMMUNITY FEEDBACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN APRIL AND TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN MAY.

AND, UM, ON THE IMAGINE LIVERMORE WEBSITE IS WHERE WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE DATES FOR THOSE ONCE THEY'RE CONFIRMED.

SO THE LIVERMORE GENERAL PLAN VISION SAYS THAT IN 2045, LIVERMORE WILL BE A COMMUNITY WITH A BIG HEART WHERE FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS FLOURISH, AND PEOPLE WITH DIVERSE EXPERIENCES AND PERSPECTIVES WORK TOGETHER FOR THE COMMON GOOD, INSIGHTFUL LAND USE POLICIES AND WISE RESOURCE MANAGEMENT WILL ENSURE SERVICES AND INFRASTRUCTURE FOR A HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE AND ENABLE LIVERMORE TO BE SAFE AND WELCOMING FOR ALL.

SO THIS WAS A VISION THAT WE DEVELOPED EARLY IN THE PROCESS AND THAT REALLY GUIDED AND MOTIVATED OUR WORK THROUGHOUT THE GENERAL PLAN.

UM, AND CERTAINLY WE'RE HOPING THAT YOU FEEL THAT THE GENERAL PLAN AS IT'S DRAFTED TODAY REALLY EMBODIES AND EXPRESSES THIS VISION.

UM, AND ALSO THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES WHICH WERE DEVELOPED TO SUPPORT THE VISION, WHICH INCLUDE PRINCIPLES ABOUT PROSPERITY, VIBRANCY, MOBILITY, SUSTAINABILITY, RESILIENCY, HOMES, EQUITY, DIVERSITY, CONTINUITY, AND THE ARTS.

JUST A REMINDER, THE GENERAL PLAN IS REALLY KIND OF PART OF A, OF A OPEN NETWORK AND A HIERARCHY OF CITY POLICY DOCUMENTS.

AND IT SITS AT THE TOP OF THAT HIERARCHY.

SO THE GENERAL PLAN SETS THE OVERALL POLICY GUIDANCE FOR THE CITY, WHICH IS THEN EXPRESSED FURTHER IN BOTH, UM, THE LIVERMORE DEVELOPMENT CODE AND SPECIFIC PLANS THAT COVER INDIVIDUAL PARTS OF LIVERMORE AT A GREATER LEVEL OF DETAIL, AS WELL AS TOPIC AREA PLANS LIKE THE ALTERNATIVE, UM, EXCUSE ME, ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, FOR EXAMPLE.

AND ALL OF THOSE LAYERS OF DOCUMENTS THEN INFORM ANNUAL OR DAY-TO-DAY DECISION MAKING AND THINGS LIKE PROJECT APPROVALS, THE CITY'S ANNUAL BUDGET, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM.

UH, AND SO THAT'S HOW THE GENERAL PLAN FITS INTO THIS OVERALL CITY POLICY FRAMEWORK.

I'VE MENTIONED THE WEBSITE A COUPLE OF TIMES ALREADY.

IMAGINE LIVERMORE 2045 ORG UM, CONTINUES TO BE KIND OF OUR PRIMARY RESOURCE FOR THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE PROCESS.

THAT'S WHERE ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS ARE AVAILABLE.

THE DRAFT GENERAL PLAN, THE DRAFT EIR, THAT'S WHERE YOU CAN FIND THE ONLINE COMMENTING TOOL THAT I MENTIONED.

ALL OF OUR MEETING DATES AND OTHER ACTIVITIES ARE AT IMAGINE LIVERMORE 2040 FIVE.ORG.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCESS, IF YOU WANNA SUBMIT A COMMENT, UM, IF YOU WANNA FIND ANY OF THE BACKGROUND DOCUMENTS FROM EARLIER PHASES, ALL OF THAT IS THAT IMAGINE LIVERMORE 2040 FIVE.ORG.

AND THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BE YOUR MAIN POINT OF CONTACT FOR THE PROJECT.

SO JUST A, A REMINDER THEN, UM, LET'S SEE, IS THAT WHAT I'M HANDING OFF TO YOU? OKAY, GREAT.

UM, WE'RE GONNA, I'M GONNA HAND IT BACK TO ANDY.

THANK YOU, ANDY.

HANDOFF COMPLETE.

YEAH, GOOD JOB.

SO, UM, WHERE JOANNA WAS GOING WITH THIS IS STAFF TOOK A LOT OF THE, UH, GENERAL PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE'S, INPUT AND FEEDBACK ON POLICY OPTIONS AND THE PREFERRED LAND USE SCENARIO.

AND WHEN WE BROKE ABOUT A YEAR AGO, UM, FROM OUR REGULAR MEETINGS, WE TOOK THAT IN A SEQUENCE OF MEETINGS TO BOTH THE PLANNING COMMISSION CITY COUNCIL TO GET THEIR DIRECTION.

AND SO, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION CITY COUNCIL WERE VERY, UH, IMPRESSED AND APPRECIATIVE OF

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ALL THE WORK THAT YOU PUT IN.

REALLY LIKED A LOT OF THE IDEAS AND FEEDBACK, UH, BUT THEY GAVE US SOME OVERARCHING DIRECTION TO CONSIDER AS WE MOVED FORWARD WITH ACTUALLY DEVELOPING THE DRAFT PLAN.

THE FIRST WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, POLICIES SHOULD REMAIN AT A HIGH LEVEL, THAT THEY'RE REALLY GUIDANCE, THEY'RE PROVIDING DIRECTION, AND THEY SHOULD NOT BE OVERLY PRE PRESCRIPTIVE.

AND THEN SOME OF THE MORE DETAILED STRATEGIES THAT WE BRAINSTORMED AS A GROUP, UM, WE SHOULD KEEP, BUT THEY SHOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THE APPROPRIATE IMPLEMENTATION DOCUMENT LIKE OUR MUNICIPAL CODE OR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.

SO WE'VE KEPT THOSE.

SO MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT DIRECTION WE WENT THROUGH AND DEVELOPED THE GENERAL PLAN, UM, LOOKING AT EACH OF THE REQUIRED ELEMENTS AND SOME OF OUR, UM, OPTIONAL ELEMENTS THAT ARE ADDED, UH, TO ROUND OUT THE DOCUMENT.

SOME OF THEM HAVE CHANGED SLIGHTLY, UH, IN TERMS OF THE, THE NAMING.

UH, AN EXAMPLE OF THIS IS COMMUNITY IDENTITY.

WE HAD A COMMUNITY CHARACTER, UH, ELEMENT.

UH, BUT THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THIS COMMITTEE, UH, LIVERMORE'S IDENTITY WAS A THEME THAT KEPT COMING UP.

UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE'S MULTIPLE IDENTITIES THAT MAKE, UH, LIVERMORE SPECIAL AND UNIQUE.

WE'VE CHANGED THE CIRCULATION ELEMENT TO MOBILITY TO REALLY EMPHASIZE, UH, THE DIFFERENT WAYS AND MODES IN WHICH, UH, THE COMMUNITY MOVES.

INFRASTRUCTURE AND COMMUNITY SERVICES USED TO BE ONE ELEMENT.

WE'VE SEPARATED THOSE, UM, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

AND THEN ONE OF THE BIGGER, UM, HIGHLIGHTS IS THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.

SO ORIGINALLY AS PART OF THE AUDIT THAT THIS COMMITTEE DID, THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED AND LOOKING AT THE EXISTING ELEMENTS THAT ARE MADE UP OF GOALS, OBJECTIVES, POLICIES, AND ACTIONS, THIS BEING CLOSE TO 20 YEARS, UH, UH, OLD DOCUMENT, UM, HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT WE'VE ACHIEVED? AND SO NOW WE'VE TRIED TO STREAMLINE THIS DOCUMENT BY EACH OF THE ELEMENTS, HAVING GOALS AND POLICIES, AND THEN ANY, THE ACTIONS REQUIRED TO IMPLEMENT THEM LIVE IN THIS IMPLEMENTATION CHAPTER TOWARDS THE END.

AND THAT'LL ALLOW THE CITY TO PICK AND CHOOSE THOSE ACTIONS AND INTEGRATE 'EM INTO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN AND OUR NORMAL WORK PROGRAMS, UM, WHEN, WHEN NECESSARY AND WHEN IT MAKES SENSE.

AND THEN WE CAN UPDATE THAT PERIODICALLY, UM, THROUGHOUT THE LIFESPAN OF THIS DOCUMENT.

SO MOVING ON TO THE GENERAL PLAN, UH, DRAFT LAND USE MAP, THIS IS THE DRAFT LAND USE MAP, UH, THAT IS IN THE PLAN AND IT LOOKS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT, UH, CURRENTLY EXISTS.

AND, UH, SOME OF THE EXAMPLES AND PLACE TYPES AND FOCUS AREAS THAT YOU LOOKED AT.

SO WE'LL WALK THROUGH THAT NOW.

SO SOME OF THE CHANGES WE MADE TO THE LAND USE MAP WERE IT JUST INCLUDED, LIKE, UM, TARGETING NAMING UPDATES THAT WOULD JUST BETTER REFLECT WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN AN AREA OR WHAT WE WANTED TO HAPPEN IN AN AREA.

WE ALSO MERGED SOME OF OUR LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.

WE FOUND THAT THERE WAS, UM, REDUNDANT OR DUPLICATIVE, UM, LAND USE DESTINATIONS THAT WERE ALLOWING SIMILAR USES AND SIMILAR GEOGRAPHIES.

SO WE MERGED THOSE.

WE ALSO, SINCE THE LAST ADOPTION OF THE GENERAL PLAN, HAVE MANY MORE SPECIFIC PLANS THAN WE DID PREVIOUSLY.

AND SO THEY WERE STARTING TO, I DON'T WANNA SAY CLUTTER UP THE MAP, BUT WE WERE RUNNING OUT OF COLOR.

SO INSTEAD WE IDENTIFIED THEM AS ONE COLOR.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT THAT SPECIFIC PLAN RULES ALL THESE AREAS.

THEY'RE STILL INDEPENDENT SPECIFIC PLANS, BUT IT WOULD SIGNALING IS LAND USE REGULATIONS ARE GOVERNED THROUGH THAT DOCUMENT.

UH, THEN WE'VE ADDED NEW DESIGNATIONS THAT RESULTED FROM YOUR WORK AS PART OF THE FOCUS, UH, AREAS AND THE ALTERNATIVES PROCESS.

THINGS LIKE, UH, INDUSTRIAL OFFICE DESIGNATION OR GENERAL INDUSTRIAL OR THAT MIXED INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION.

SO THEN IF WE LOOK AT THE CENTER, UH, COLUMN, THAT'S OUR EXISTING GENERAL PLAN RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATIONS.

AND WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS, REMEMBER WE LOOKED AT FOCUS AREAS BECAUSE WE DID NOT WANNA CHANGE OUR EXISTING, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE DID NOT WANT TO GIVE THEM, UH, NEW DESIGNATIONS.

UM, BUT WE DID START TO INTRODUCE NEW, UM, LAND USE TYPES AND, AND LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.

SO THAT FOCUS WORKS.

SO WE TRIED TO, UH, RECALIBRATE THEM, I GUESS YOU CAN SAY, WHERE WE WOULD, UH, TRY TO SIMPLIFY THE COLOR PALETTE AND CREATE THESE SUB DESIGNATIONS.

SO WHILE THE MAP LOOKS DIFFERENT AND IT'S MORE REFLECTIVE OF, UH, WHAT WE THINK OF NOW IN 2026 IS LOW DENSITY AND MEDIUM DENSITY AND HIGH DENSITY ON THE GROUND, UH, THINGS WON'T CHANGE THAT THOSE DENSITY RANGES STILL SIT STAY CONSISTENT.

SO FOCUSING IN NOW ON THE PREFERRED SCENARIO THAT THE GENERAL PLAN PUT FORWARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL, WELL, WE BROUGHT IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT YOU RECOMMENDED IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL COMPARED TO WHAT THE CURRENT LAND USE MAP IS.

AND WE'LL GO ONE BY ONE, WE'LL START AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN, WHICH IS THE VASCO ROW FOCUS AREA.

YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT, UH, EXHIBIT OF THE PREFERRED SCENARIO, AND I'M POINTING AT A SCREEN, BUT I DO HAVE A LASER POINTER.

THIS ONE, UM, IT'S A MIX

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OF DIFFERENT LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.

WE HAVE A VARIETY OF RESIDENTIAL LAND USE TYPES.

UH, WE HAVE THE MIXED INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL OPEN SPACE, WINE COUNTRY COMMERCIAL.

AND I THINK WE EVEN CAME UP WITH A MIXED INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL OVERLAY DESIGNATION.

WE TOOK IT TO COUNCIL.

UM, THEY UNDERSTOOD WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO, THAT WE WERE TRYING TO CREATE A MAKER'S VILLAGE, UH, WITH A VARIETY OF USES AND ACTIVITY.

UH, BUT SAID FOR NOW, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO SOLVE FOR, UM, THOSE TYPES OF, UH, MANUFACTURING AND COMMERCIAL USES TO MOVE INTO THIS AREA.

AND SO LET'S CREATE A MIXED INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION FOR EVERYTHING TO THE WEST OF VASCO ROAD.

AND ON THE EAST, WE'LL DESIGNATE THAT WINE COUNTRY COMMERCIAL, UH, FOR VISITOR SERVING USES THAT CAN SUPPORT WINE COUNTRY.

SO IN THE MIXED INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL, YOU CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE INDUSTRIAL USES, BUT IF ONE WANTS TO PROCESS OR MANUFACTURING SOMETHING ON SITE, THEY COULD ALSO SELL THAT ON SITE.

UH, MOVING UP TO THE LAUGHLIN ROAD AREA, WHICH IS UP HERE, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE PREFERRED SCENARIO, THE GPAC RECOMMENDED, UH, A MIXED, UH, EXCUSE ME, A MEDIUM HIGH RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS ABOUT, UH, 30 UNITS TO 59 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, A STRIP OF OPEN SPACE, AND THEN SOME SMALL COMMERCIAL GENERAL INDUSTRIAL AND A MIXED INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL AND THE REST DESIGNATED AS OPEN SPACE IN THE LAND USE MAP.

UH, THE, THE COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION AGREED WITH, UH, THE, THE MAJOR COMPONENTS, UH, BUT SAID, LET'S NOT TRY TO FORCE COMMERCIAL IN HERE.

LET'S JUST GO, UM, STRAIGHT GENERAL INDUSTRIAL ADJACENT TO FIVE 80, KEEP THE OPEN SPACE BUFFER AND REALLY STAFF, WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT A, UH, DENSITY RANGE THAT IS MORE RESPONSIVE TO THE MARKET AND WHAT WE BUILD IN THIS COMMUNITY.

AND SO THEY DIRECTED US TO LOOK AT A RANGE OF ANYWHERE FROM 2324 DWELLING UNITS AT THE BOTTOM END UP TO 30 OR 35 DWELLING UNITS AT THE HIGHER END.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT'S REFLECTED THERE.

IT'S THE, UM, HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ONE, WHICH IS 23 TO 30 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

AND THEN LASTLY, YOU'LL SEE MIDTOWN IS ONE BIG SPECIFIC PLAN COLOR ON THE LAND USE MAP HERE.

PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE, LOOKED AT, UM, A VASCO STATION IN THE MIDPOINT OF, UH, FIVE 80 BETWEEN FIRST STREET AND VASCO, AND REALLY CONCENTRATED OUR LAND USE PATTERN AROUND THAT FUTURE TRANSIT STATION.

EVEN THOUGH WE DECIDED IT SHOULD BE OPERATE, IT SHOULD BE DEVELOPED INDEPENDENTLY OF REGIONAL RAIL, WE STILL HAD IT IN MIND.

IT WAS PART OF THE THOUGHT PROCESS.

SO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S NON-RESIDENTIAL LAND USES ADJACENT TO THE FREEWAY, SOME HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, SOME MEDIUM HIGH RESIDENTIAL, AND SOME MEDIUM RESIDENTIAL THE FURTHER SOUTH ONE GOES.

UM, OVERALL COUNCIL LIKED THAT AS A STARTING POINT, BUT THERE WERE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS TO TAKE INTO EFFECT.

ONE OF THOSE IS, UH, A POTENTIAL REALIGNMENT OF VALLEY LINKS.

SO THE VALLEY LINK STATION, UH, MIGHT BE MOVING THE VALLEY LINK, UM, UH, TRANSIT, UM, WHAT ARE THEY BORED, UM, DECIDED TO REALIGN THIS DUE TO FUNDING ANOTHER CONSIDERATIONS.

AND SO NOW INSTEAD OF HAVING A STATION AT, UH, MIDTOWN LONG SOUTH FRONT IN THE SHORT TERM, THEY'RE LOOKING AT AN ALTERNATIVE PHASE, WHICH BASICALLY WOULD CONNECT THE VALLEY LINK TRAIN AT THE DUBLIN PLEASANTON BART STATION, WHICH IS ALSO NOW A QUESTION MARK.

UM, RUN EAST TOWARDS, UH, ISABELLE STATION AND THEN INSTEAD OF A SOUTH RE STATION, DO SORT OF LIKE AN A FLYOVER AND COME THROUGH MIDTOWN, UH, WHERE IT WOULD CONNECT ULTIMATELY WITH THE VASCO ACE STATION.

SO THAT CHANGED THE CONTEXT AROUND MIDTOWN A LITTLE BIT.

UM, AND EVEN THIS ALONE, UH, COUNCIL SAID THAT'S A GOOD STARTING POINT, BUT WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH VALET LINK NOW.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER MORE GRANULAR ISSUES TO SORT THROUGH.

THOSE ARE BETTER, UM, ADDRESSED THROUGH A SPECIFIC PLAN.

SO LET'S IDENTIFY IT A SPECIFIC PLAN, KEEP THIS CONCEPT IN MIND AND WE'LL WE'LL GET TO THOSE ISSUES AT A FUTURE DATE.

THEY'VE ALSO EXPANDED THE AREA NOT FOR LAND USE CHANGE PURPOSES, BUT, UM, THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, WHATEVER HAPPENS THERE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING LAND USES THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING CONNECTIONS AND CONNECTIVITY TO THINGS LIKE EXISTING SHOPPING AREAS ON THE, UM, WESTERN SIDE OF LAS POSITAS ROAD, FOR INSTANCE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEN LASTLY WITH MIDTOWN, UM, WE DID GET SOME, OR COUNCIL DID ACTUALLY RECEIVE SOME LETTERS FROM SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE AREA, AND THERE WAS SOME

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QUESTIONS AND, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS.

AND SO COUNCIL DIRECTED US TO WORK WITH THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE STRIKING THE RIGHT BALANCE BETWEEN NEW, A MIX OF NEW LAND, NEW LAND USES AND THE CURRENT LAND INDUSTRIAL LAND USES THAT ARE HAPPENING OUT THERE.

SO ALL THAT BEING SAID, WE'VE ENDED UP WITH A MIDTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN AREA DESIGNATION ON THE LAND USE MAP.

AND WITH THAT, I WILL HAND IT BACK OVER TO JOANNA.

GREAT.

THANK YOU ANDY.

UM, SO, UH, UH, I'M GONNA JUST TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER KIND OF FEATURES OF THE UPDATED GENERAL PLAN AND ALSO A FEW OF THE TOPICS THAT WE SPENT THE MOST TIME TALKING ABOUT AS A COMMITTEE.

SO ONE THING I WANNA MAKE SURE WE COMMENT ON IS JUST THE KIND OF GR LOOK AND FEEL OF THE UPDATED GENERAL PLAN.

UM, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT.

WE WORKED HARD TO MAKE THIS A DOCUMENT THAT IS PLEASANT TO LOOK AT AND EASY TO NAVIGATE.

UM, SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE A SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON HERE OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE BLACK AND WHITE GRAPHICS FREE PAGE OF THE OLD GENERAL PLAN LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT OUR NEW GENERAL PLAN LOOKS LIKE TODAY.

THE NUMBERING IN CASE IT'S NOT, UM, OBVIOUS, BUT I HOPE IT'S PRETTY INTUITIVE, UM, FOR EVERY GOAL AND POLICY AND FIGURE FOLLOWS THE, UH, ELEMENT TO HELP READERS ORIENT TO WHERE THEY ARE.

AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, YEARS DOWN THE ROAD AS YOU'RE READING A STAFF REPORT OR SOMETHING'S BEING REFERRED TO, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO TELL, UM, NOT JUST THAT THIS IS POLICY P THREE OR P FOUR, BUT THIS IS POLICY OS DASH 1.2.

THAT'S FROM THE OPEN SPACE AND CONSERVATION ELEMENT, RIGHT? UM, SO, AND UM, THE OTHER THING TO MENTION ABOUT THIS GRAPHIC LAYOUT LAYOUT IS THE ICONS.

HOW'D YOU DO THAT? FANCY LASER POINTER THING.

UM, PRESS THE BUTTON.

, I COULDN'T TELL WHICH BUTTON IT WAS.

UH, THESE ICONS, THIS ICON IS ABOUT, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE.

THERE'S ANOTHER ICON THAT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE THE RECYCLING SYMBOL THAT'S ABOUT, UH, SUSTAINABILITY.

SO THOSE ICONS REALLY HELP HIGHLIGHT WHERE SOME OF THE TWO THEMES OF THE GENERAL PLAN RECUR AND MAKE IT EASY TO FIND THOSE ON A PAGE AND KIND OF SEE HOW THEY ARE DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT.

I WANNA REALLY EMPHASIZE THAT THIS DRAFT GENERAL PLAN CARRIES FORWARD A LOT OF REALLY IMPORTANT IDEAS THAT HAVE BEEN ENDURING FROM THE EXISTING, UM, GENERAL PLAN.

SO THE SOME, AND THOSE THINGS HAVE WORKED VERY HARD OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS TO MAKE LIVERMORE WHAT IT IS.

AND WE REALLY HEARD DURING THE PROCESS THAT PEOPLE LIKE THIS MAINTAINING AND STRENGTHENING DOWNTOWN AS THE HEART OF THE COMMUNITY FACILITATING INFILL DEVELOPMENT THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE VOTER APPROVED URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY, PROTECTING LIVERMORE'S NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, PROMOTING AGRICULTURE AND CONSERVATION IN SOUTH LIVERMORE.

UM, OF COURSE INTEGRATING AND BUILDING ON THE WORK OF THE MANY SPECIFIC PLANS THAT ANDY MENTIONED, LIKE, UH, ISABELLE AND EL CHARO, AND CONTINUING TO SUPPORT ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION LIKE WALKING AND BIKING AND TAKING TRANSIT.

SO THAT'S IN YOUR EXISTING GENERAL PLAN.

PEOPLE LIKED THAT AND WANTED TO KEEP IT.

AND WE HAVE, AND, UH, IT HAS BEEN 20 YEARS, AND SO THERE ARE SOME NEW IDEAS OUT THERE, AND THOSE ARE IMPORTANT TO INTEGRATE TOO.

AND WE GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK ABOUT THESE.

SO IDEAS ABOUT, UM, CLIMATE RESILIENCE AND SUSTAINABILITY AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AHEAD TO THINK ABOUT HOW LIVERMORE MAYBE IS ALREADY BEING AFFECTED BY CLIMATE CHANGE AND HOW IT MIGHT CONTINUE TO ADAPT OVER TIME.

WHAT CHANGE, WHAT STEPS TO TAKE TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE GASES, TO CONSERVE WATER? UM, I JUST MENTIONED ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE.

THAT'S THE IDEA THAT ALL RESIDENTS IN LIVERMORE SHOULD HAVE EQUITABLE ACCESS TO SERVICES AND SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SAFE AND HEALTHY PLACES TO LIVE AND PLAY.

UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND DIVERSIFICATION IS VERY IMPORTANT AND SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT TO REALLY STRENGTHEN EXISTING BUSINESSES AND ALSO CONTINUE TO FACILITATE THE GROWTH OF AN INNOVATION ECONOMY.

ANDY MENTIONED THE COMMUNITY IDENTITY ELEMENT AND REALLY, UM, THAT REFLECTS A LOT OF THE UNIQUE ASPECTS OF LIVERMORE, INCLUDING SCIENCE AND AGRICULTURE AND THE ARTS, FOR EXAMPLE.

AND THEN FINALLY, HEALTHY COMMUNITIES.

THERE ARE POLICIES IN HERE TO ADDRESS ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE, ACCESS TO HEALTHY FOOD, UH, CHILDCARE SERVICES FOR AGING ADULTS.

SO REALLY TRYING TO THINK ABOUT LIVERMORE, UM, AND EVERYONE WHO LIVES HERE IN A VERY COMPREHENSIVE WAY.

THE GPAC, UH, REALLY SPENT TIME ON SOME OF THE TOPICS THAT WE SEE ACROSS THE TOP OF THIS SLIDE.

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IS JUST GIVE YOU A MATRIX OF WHERE THESE TOPICS SHOW UP THAT WERE IMPORTANT TO THIS COMMITTEE.

SO AGRICULTURAL RESOURCES, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT IN SOME FORM OR ANOTHER, THERE ARE POLICIES ABOUT AGRICULTURAL RESOURCES IN EVERY ELEMENT OF THE GENERAL PLAN, AND THAT REALLY REFLECTS HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS TO LIVERMORE'S CHARACTER LIVERMORE'S ECONOMY, UM, AND TO, TO THE ENVIRONMENT HERE.

TOURISM AND HOSPITALITY SHOWS UP IN SEVERAL, UH, ELEMENTS, SUSTAINABILITY AND CLIMATE RESILIENCE IN REALLY ALMOST ALL OF THE ELEMENTS, UH, SCIENCE AND INNOVATION IN A NUMBER OF ELEMENTS YOU CAN SEE AS IS

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MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION.

AND THEN I JUST MENTIONED THESE KIND OF IDEAS ABOUT THE SOCIAL FABRIC AND KIND OF SOCIAL RESILIENCE IN LIVERMORE.

UM, AND AGAIN, THAT IS PRESENT IN ALMOST EVERY, UM, ELEMENT.

WE ALSO TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE REVITALIZATION OF EXISTING COMMERCIAL AREAS, UH, THAT GETS THE MOST FOCUS IN THE LAND USE ELEMENT, UM, AND IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ELEMENT.

AND THEN AGAIN, UM, ACROSS THE BOTTOM, THIS LAST ROW THAT YOU CAN SEE IS THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN THAT ANDY TALKED ABOUT.

WHERE ARE ALL THE ACTIONS CONSOLIDATED IN THE GENERAL PLAN? SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, EACH ONE OF THESE TOPICS THAT, UH, THAT GPAC ADDRESSED HAS AT LEAST ONE ACTION TO ADDRESS IT.

AND THOSE ARE, AGAIN, FOUND IN THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, AND THOSE MIGHT BE PULLED FROM ANY OF THE ELEMENTS.

SO I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT JUST A FEW OF THESE TOPICS, NOT ALL OF THE TOPICS.

UM, AGRICULTURAL RESOURCES IS ONE.

THESE ARE NOT BY ANY MEANS ALL OF THE POLICIES ABOUT AGRICULTURAL RESOURCES IN THE GENERAL PLAN.

WE JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A FLAVOR OF THE DIFFERENT POLICIES.

SO, UM, AND THE, AND THE DIFFERENT ANGLES FROM WHICH THESE POLICY TOPICS ARE KIND OF ATTACKED.

SO LAND USE, WHEN WE TALK, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT AGRICULTURAL RESOURCES IN THE CONTEXT OF THE LAND USE ELEMENT, UM, THIS IS, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS, THERE AGAIN, THERE ARE MANY POLICIES IN THE LAND SETTLEMENT ALONE ABOUT AG RESOURCES.

BUT, UM, THIS IS ABOUT, OOPS, SORRY.

THIS IS ABOUT, UM, OFFSET FROM, FOR IN AGRICULTURAL INVESTMENT USING RESOURCES GENERATED FROM URBAN DEVELOPMENT, UM, THAT HAPPENS WITHIN THE URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY TO INVEST IN SOUTH LIVERMORE AND AGRICULTURE IN SOUTH LIVERMORE.

THIS IS KIND OF, UM, YOU KNOW, RELATED TO THE TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT PRO CREDITS PROGRAM THAT THE CITY HAS HAD, UM, LONGSTANDING THAT ENABLES LAND ACQUISITION AND CONSERVATION EASEMENTS.

UM, SO THOSE POLICIES ARE IN THE LAND USE ELEMENT.

IN THE OPEN SPACE ELEMENT.

WE HAVE IDEAS SUPPORTING VINEYARD EXPANSION, VINEYARD AND ORCHARD EXPANSION.

UM, AGRICULTURE NEEDS INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT IT.

AND SO, UM, THE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE ELEMENT, UH, HAS POLICY IN ADDRESSING THE SOUTH LIVERMORE SEWER EXTENSION THAT'S BEEN, UM, UNDERWAY AND BEING PLANNED AND APPROVED.

UM, AND THEN, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOUCHES ON AGRICULTURAL RESOURCES, UM, BY PROMOTING LONG TERM AGRICULTURAL LEASES, UM, PARTNERSHIPS THAT PRESERVE VINEYARD AND CROP PRODUCTION AS A CORE COMPONENT OF THE LOCAL ECONOMY, RIGHT? SO WE'RE TACKLING AGRICULTURAL RESOURCES FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE, ACKNOWLEDGING THE ROLE THAT AGRICULTURAL RESOURCES PLAY IN OPEN SPACE, UM, AND ALSO THE ECONOMY.

SIMILARLY FOR TOURISM AND HOSPITALITY TOPICS, UM, WE HAVE, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THE LAND USE ELEMENT IS, IS ALLOWING SPACE FOR AND KEEPING LAND DESIGNATED FOR WINERIES, UM, AND VINEYARDS IN THE SOUTH LIVERMORE VALLEY IN PARTICULAR, THE COM CI, THE COMMUNITY IDENTITY ELEMENT TALKS ABOUT FOOD TOURISM, AGAIN, AS KIND OF A PART OF LIVERMORE'S IDENTITY AND WHAT MAKES LIVERMORE SPECIAL FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, WE WANNA BOTH, UM, SUPPORT TOURISM AND, UH, THE VISITOR EXPERIENCE, ESPECIALLY WITH MULTI-DAY VISITS, AS WELL AS, UM, SUPPORTING THE PEOPLE WHO ARE RUNNING THE BUSINESSES THAT SERVE VISITORS THROUGH SHARED SPACES AND INCUBATORS.

UM, AND REALLY, UH, POSITIONING LIVERMORE AS A HUB FOR HOSPITALITY ENTREPRENEURSHIP.

SO EVEN WITHIN ONE ELEMENT, THERE'S DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF HOW WE CAN PROMOTE AND SUPPORT TOURISM HOSPITALITY.

AND THEN FINALLY, WITH, UM, SCIENCE AND INNOVATION, AGAIN, JUST AS A FEW EXAMPLES, NOT A COMPLETE SET OF POLICIES.

UH, SO IN LAND USE, WE WANNA THINK ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PRESERVING INDUSTRIAL LAND WHERE INNOVATION BUSINESSES CAN LOCATE AND GROW THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

UH, POLICY IS ABOUT, AGAIN, PROGRAMS THAT SUPPORT, UM, BUSINESSES, ENTREPRENEURSHIP, RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT, UH, AND REALLY MAKING, URGING THE CITY TO PARTNER WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR, UM, TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN COMPANIES.

HERE IN LIVERMORE MO IS THE MOBILITY, UH, ELEMENT.

THIS IS A GOAL, UH, THAT EXPRESSES REALLY THE NEED OF BENEFICIAL TRANSPORTATION TECHNOLOGIES IN SERVICE OF CITY AND COMMUNITY GOALS.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR SCIENCE AND INNOVATION IN THAT CASE, REALLY IN SUPPORT OF ADVANCED MOBILITY.

AND THEN FINALLY, AN INFRASTRUCTURE EXPAND ELECTRICITY INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT ECONOMIC GROWTH.

SO AGAIN, THE IMPORTANCE OF MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S POWER AVAILABLE TO SERVE THESE BUSINESSES AS WE ATTRACT THEM TO LIVERMORE AND HELP THEM GROW HERE.

SO MESSAGE THERE AGAIN, IS JUST THAT THESE POLICY TOPICS ARE WOVEN THROUGHOUT THE GENERAL PLAN.

THEY RECUR IN MANY ELEMENTS AND THERE'S KIND OF A PIECE OF WORK THAT EACH ELEMENT DOES TO SUPPORT THEM THAT'S IMPORTANT AND DIFFERENT.

SO THAT, UM, CONCLUDES MY OVERVIEW OF THE DRAFT GENERAL PLAN DOCUMENT ITSELF.

BUT AGAIN, I WANTED TO CLOSE BY MAKING SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.

WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH THAT

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I MENTIONED AT THE OUTSET WITH THE OPEN HOUSE AND YOUR NEXT MEETING, UM, FEBRUARY THROUGH APRIL.

UH, YOUR NEXT MEETING IS ON APRIL 1ST.

WE'LL BE GOING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN APRIL.

AND, AND THEY'LL HAVE A MEETING, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR TO, TO CONSIDER AND DISCUSS THE GENERAL PLAN.

AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN MAY.

I WANNA BE CLEAR THAT THAT'S NOT ADOPTION IN MAY.

ADOPTION HEARINGS ARE GONNA HAPPEN IN JULY.

SO WHEN WE GO TO THE COUNCIL IN MAY, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE TAKING, UM, ACTION TO ADOPT THE GENERAL PLAN, BUT THEY ARE GONNA BE GIVING US DIRECTION BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT THEY'VE HEARD.

I WANT YOU TO CHANGE THIS.

I WANT YOU TO TWEAK THAT.

I'D LIKE THIS POLICY COME OUT, I'D LIKE TO SEE INTO POLICY ADDED.

THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF CHANGES THAT WE MIGHT ANTICIPATE.

UH, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL WILL DO WHAT THEY DECIDE, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO HEAR IN MAY ARE WHAT ARE THE FINAL CHANGES THAT WE WANNA SEE, IF ANY, TO GET THIS DOCUMENT READY TO ADOPT, AND THEN WE'LL BE BRINGING IT BACK TO THEM FOR ADOPTION IN JULY.

SO THAT'S THE, THAT'LL BE KIND OF THE, A VERY IMPORTANT, UM, MILESTONE.

UH, AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, SO LET'S SEE AGAIN, UM, WE WANNA HOLD OUR CLARIFYING QUESTIONS AND ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE COMMENTS.

AND WE HAVE A FEW YELLOW CARDS.

DEBBIE, I DO HAVE ONE.

OKAY, LET'S GO WITH THAT.

JASON KAMARA, IS HE STILL HERE? MAYBE NOT.

OKAY, SO, UM, SO I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

AND, UM, I'M REALLY SORRY, JASON IS NOT HERE.

I'M SORRY, DID I MISS THE NAME? UH, NO, JASON? YES.

HE MUST HAVE LEFT.

OKAY.

SO HE MUST HAVE LEFT.

SO, UM, IF HE COMES BACK, WE'LL ENCOURAGE HIM TO PROVIDE HIS COMMENT DIRECTLY TO THE PROJECT TEAM.

SO I'M GONNA CLOSE THAT, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, AND OPEN, UH, THE, UH, OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS.

UH, SO WE, WE HAVE A FEW MICS, SO PLEASE, UH, TRY TO SH TURN THIS, UH, MIC OVER TO ANYONE.

UM, DO YOU WANNA START? UM, SURE.

YOU LOOK LIKE I'M LOOKING FOR A MIC.

UH, NO, I WAS JUST, GOOD POINT.

NO, YOU DID ACTUALLY PLUG IT LIKE HERE.

SO THE ONE THING, I KNOW THE POLICY IS NOT SPECIFIC, UM, BUT WE HAVEN'T MET IN LIKE A YEAR AND A HALF, SO IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

THINGS HAVE BEEN CHANGING.

UM, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF GROWING CONCERNS AROUND LIKE DATA CENTERS IMPACT ON LIKE ENERGY PRICES AND WATER PRICES AND WATER QUALITY.

AND I THINK IN AN AREA LIKE LIVERMORE WHERE WE WANNA MAINTAIN HIGH QUALITY OF WATER FOR OUR WINERIES, UM, I THINK THAT WHAT, WHAT I'VE SEEN IN HERE ISN'T LIKE IT KIND OF TIPTOES AROUND IT, BUT THERE ISN'T, ISN'T ANYTHING DIRECTLY RELATED TO LIKE, THE BUILDINGS NEED THEMSELVES TO BE SUSTAINABLE AND LIKE THE OPERATORS THEMSELVES NEED TO BE SUSTAINABLE.

AND IN TERMS OF LIKE THEY NEED TO GENERATE THEIR OWN ELECTRICITY OR, UH, INVEST IN IMPROVEMENTS TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, AS PART OF LIKE A GUIDING PRINCIPLE FOR NEW DESIGN BUILDS.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING ANY LARGE FACILITIES LIKE THAT, BUT I'M JUST KIND OF TRYING TO THINK OF LIKE, WHAT COULD THE NEXT THING BE? 'CAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS THE 20 YEAR PROJECT, SO, UM, BUT YEAH, I'VE SEEN A COUPLE POLICIES THAT ARE LIKE CLOSE, SPECIFICALLY CLOSER TO WATER, LESS AROUND LIKE ENERGY PRICES.

SO I THINK ENERGY MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE BIGGER GAP, UH, IN THAT.

SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO POINT OUT.

DID YOU WANT A RESPONSE TO THAT OR YOU JUST NO, WE DON'T NEED TO GET INTO IT.

OKAY.

NOODLE ON IT.

SLEEP ON IT.

TEXT ME LATER.

, YOU, YOU, YOU HAD A SLIDE THAT HAD, IT WAS A MATRIX OF WITH CHECK MARKS AND STUFF AND WHAT, WHAT WAS, AND, AND YEAH, THAT ONE RIGHT THERE.

AND I NOTICED WHEN YOU HAD TOURISM AND HOSPITALITY, YOU DIDN'T HAVE A CHECK BY INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND, AND I IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT, WELL, WHAT, WHAT ABOUT THE SEWER EXTENSION? AND, AND I, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THIS, UH, THIS SLIDE IS GOING TO BE USED FOR, BUT, UM, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE MAYBE YOU NEED TO CHECK TO MAKE SURE ALL THE CHECK MARKS ARE THERE THAT SHOULD BE THERE.

AND, UH, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A PRETTY TRIVIAL COMMENT, BUT, UH, IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU'RE USING THIS .

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UM, THIS QUESTION COULD BE REALLY BROAD, SO TAKE IT AS, AS WE HAVE TIME FOR, BUT, UM, I REALLY APPRECIATED THAT YOU OUTLINED THE SPECIFIC, IT WAS THAT SAME CHECK MARK BOX OF THINGS THAT WE SPENT MORE OF OUR TIME TALKING ABOUT.

UM, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN JUST BRIEF COMMENTS FROM THE TEAM ABOUT THE ELEMENTS THAT WE DIDN'T TALK AS MUCH ABOUT.

LIKE, I'M THINKING ABOUT OUR NOISE ELEMENT THAT I KNOW WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT.

AND, UM, EVEN SAFETY, WELL, I GUESS WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SAFETY, BUT, UM, LIKE WHERE DID SOME OF THE CORE INSPIRATION FOR CRAFTING THAT COME FROM, IF WE SPENT A LITTLE BIT LESS TIME ON IT AS A COMMITTEE, AND WHAT ARE MAYBE SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT OR SALIENT POINTS, UH, THAT FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE AS WE REVIEW AND MAKE COMMENTS, UM, ON THOSE ELEMENTS? SO I'LL TAKE A FIRST CRACK AT THIS.

UM, I THINK THE MATRIX, JUST TO REITERATE, WE HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN AS PART OF OUR DISCUSSIONS, THE ITEMS, THE TOPICS, THE THEMES THAT ARE ON THE TOP.

AND SO RATHER THAN GOING PAGE BY PAGE, UH, WITH THE GEN, UH, GENERAL PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WE TRIED TO SIMPLIFY IT AND SHOW WHERE ARE THESE KEY THEMES THAT ARE IMP THAT YOU ALL RAISED ARE FOUND IN THE DOCUMENT THAT DISPERSED AS YOU READ SOME OF THE OTHER ELEMENTS WHERE SOME OF THOSE THEMES MIGHT NOT BE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

UM, DOES IT MAKE SENSE, IS IT CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER POLICIES RELATED TO THESE TOPICS? IS THERE ANYTHING IN CONFLICT? IS THERE ANY GAPS? THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

UM, FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE INFRASTRUCTURE AND SAFETY, THAT'S KIND OF OUR BLOCKING AND TACKLING, THAT'S WHY WE EXIST.

IT'S PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY.

SO A LOT OF THOSE POLICIES, UM, WE'RE CARRIED OVER FROM OUR EXISTING GENERAL PLAN, BUT MODIFIED TO BE MORE CONTEMPORARY AND RESPONSIVE TO OUR CURRENT CONDITIONS AND ALSO MODIFIED TO THINK MORE FUTURISTICALLY.

UM, SO I THINK THE QUESTION OF THE GROUP IS, DID WE ACHIEVE THAT GOAL? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO ADD ANYTHING, MR. CARDWELL? WELL, I I JUST WANNA ASK A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.

SO WAS THE SECOND HALF OF YOUR QUESTION, HOW DID THE ELEMENTS THAT WE DIDN'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON GET POPULATED WITH POLICY INFORMATION LIKE NOISE SAFETY, THINGS THAT THE GROUP DID NOT PAY AS MUCH ATTENTION TO? LIKE, WHAT'S IN THOSE AND WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? YES.

SO IT STARTED TO ANSWER THAT NO, NO.

AND, AND THIS IS ANDY'S AREA OF EXPERTISE MUCH MORE THAN MINE, BUT I THINK SOME OF THE ELEMENTS, AS YOU'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, ARE VERY TECHNICAL AND AREN'T NECESSARILY AS AMENABLE TO SORT OF BROAD VALUES AND VISION CONVERSATIONS AS THEY ARE TECHNICAL EXPERTISE FROM SORT OF AN ENGINEERING OR OTHER PERSPECTIVE YOU WANT.

YEAH, YEAH.

HEY, UH, HEY, UM, ACTUALLY I'VE BEEN JUST, YOU KNOW, UM, BASED ON WHERE WE ARE IN, IN KIND OF, UH, RE YOU KNOW, SHOOT, DISPLAYING, YOU KNOW, ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE PRE-MEETINGS WE'VE BEEN CHATTING FOR A COUPLE WEEKS NOW.

I THINK THERE WAS, WE SUGGESTED A FEW TIMES, WE MIGHT HAVE BEEN EXPECTING MAYBE A FEW MORE COMMUNITY MEMBERS HERE TONIGHT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

UM, I GUESS MY QUESTION FOR, FOR YOU ALL, UM, CONSIDERING WE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT 30 PEOPLE HERE AND WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST TAKING, UM, COMMUNITY COMMENT AFTER COMMUNITY COMMENT, WHICH WE WERE, YOU KNOW, SUPER EXCITED ABOUT.

WHAT IS THE FEEDBACK YOU'VE BEEN HEARING IN THE OUTREACH THUS FAR? I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME STAGES TO GO, BUT, UM, HOW HAS, HOW HAS, HOW HAS THIS BEEN INTERPRETED AND RECEIVED THUS FAR BY COMMUNITY MEMBER? COMMUNITY MEMBERS? CAN YOU SHARE ANYTHING? UM, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE TEMPERATURE? PEOPLE LOVE IT.

NO, WE'VE GOTTEN SOME CLARIFYING QUESTIONS.

UH, THE DOCUMENT'S BEEN OUT ABOUT, UM, UH, ALMOST TWO WEEKS.

YEAH.

UH, IT WAS RELEASED ON THE 20TH, AND WE'VE RECEIVED A COUPLE QUESTIONS DIRECTLY, UH, ASKING FOR EXPLAINERS ON HOW DID THIS GET COME TO BE, BUT NOTHING REALLY LIKE, CHANGE THIS, DO THIS.

UM, IT'S MORE JUST INQUISITIVE.

AND AS PART OF THE OUTREACH PROCESS, WE'RE TRYING TO REMIND PEOPLE, HERE'S WHERE YOU CAN FIND THE DOCUMENT, HERE'S HOW YOU CAN PROVIDE COMMENTS.

AND SO WE CAN COLLECT THEM AND SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH YOU AT YOUR NEXT MEETING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

WHEN

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YOU GUYS PROVIDE, UM, ANY SORT OF FEEDBACK.

I'M SURE WE HAVE MORE QUESTIONS.

UH, I HAVE A VERY MINOR QUESTION, UH, AND, AND ANOTHER SUGGESTION.

SO THE MINOR QUESTION IS THE ICONOGRAPHY , UH, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE TWO ICONS YOU DECIDED TO CROSS TO USE FOR CROSS REFERENCES, ONE IS THE RECYCLE MARK AND ONE IS THE JUSTICE, UH, ICON.

AND I RECOMMEND TO AVOID CON UH, CON KIND OF CONFUSION BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE ICONS, YOU DIS YOU PICK FOR THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES.

ONE IS CONSISTENT, THE RECYCLE IS CONSISTENT, BUT THE JUSTICE ICON, YOU USE THAT SAME ICON FOR EQUALITY AND AT THE SAME TIME USE THAT SAME ICON FOR CLIMATE JUSTICE.

AND TO ME IT'S CONFUSING.

OH, IT'S NOT THESE, IT'S IN THE BOOK, IN THE BOOK YOU HAVE A DIFF UH, A MONOTONE DESIGN THAT HAS A CIRCULAR, MAYBE IN PDF IT'S DIFFERENT.

THEY'RE NOT EXACTLY THE SAME LIKE CIRCULAR PERSPECTIVE, UH, IN THE PDF IN THE PDF IN THE CIRCLE.

SO PLEASE, UH, JUST, YOU KNOW, NO, NO BIG DEAL.

ONE DASH FOUR PUBLIC DRAFT GUIDING PRINCIPLES AND JUST, JUST A LITTLE NITPICK FROM A COMMUNICATIONS PERSON WHO DOES A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION.

AND THE SECOND SUGGESTION IS, I REALLY LIKE THE CONCEPT OF CROSS-REFERENCING.

UH, RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE TWO, UH, YOU PICK, UH, CLIMATE JUSTICE AND YOU ALSO PICK, UM, THE SUSTAINABILITY.

AND I, I KNOW YOU JUST OFFER, UM, SOME REASONS FOR PICKING JUST TWO.

AND I FEEL LIKE WE DON'T NEED TO PICK MANY, BUT TWO, UM, AT LEAST ON THE PAGE, UH, WHERE YOU EXPLAIN THE TWO ICONS, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE A MISSED OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A COUPLE MORE.

I, I DON'T LIKE MORE THAN SEVEN.

DEFINITELY NOT SEVEN, BUT FOUR SEEMS LIKE A VERY HAPPY MEDIUM.

SO FEEL FREE TO CROSS REFERENCE.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SIMILAR CROSS REFERENCE, MAYBE EVENTUALLY EVEN CLICKABLE, I'M SORRY, THIS IS ANOTHER, UH, SUGGESTION FROM SOMEONE WHO DOES WEBPAGE TOO.

SO THOSE ARE ONE, ONE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ICONOGRAPHY USAGE AND ONE IS SUGGESTION AND THOSE ARE REALLY NITPICKS.

OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO HAVE THE MIC? I, I HAVE A NITPICKY THING.

, OH, MAYBE KATE, I, I, I TALK LOUDLY.

HOUSE ON 12 FOUR THAT SHOWS IT WHEN IT WAS IN SHAMBLES AND NOT AFTER ITS MULTIMILLION DOLLAR RELOCATION AND RENOVATION.

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MM-HMM .

SO I'M NOT SURE IT REALLY DEPICTS THE CULTURE OF LIVERMORE, WHICH WOULD LOOK LIKE A CRACK HOUSE.

THAT'S A PRETTY NICE .

ONE OF THE BEST I'VE SEEN.

OH, NO, THAT, THAT'S NOT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW.

OH, OH YEAH.

NO, IT LOOKS WAY BETTER NOW.

, WHICH PAGE IS THIS? 12 4 12 DASH FOUR.

NOW I'M READING TWO ZOOM ON IT AND LOOK AT IT.

WELL THAT'S THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ELEMENTS, SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET THAT ONE RIGHT.

IS THE MOST ALL THE ELEMENTS YOU WON, BY THE WAY, TOM LEMON WOULD BE VERY UPSET.

, HE OWNS IT NOW.

ANYONE ELSE? I'M HOPING, UM, EVERYONE I WAS LISA AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK? YES, GO AHEAD.

UM, I, I AM UNDER THE IMPRESSION THROUGH THE WORK THAT I DO WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THAT THERE IS A COUNTY, ALAMEDA COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION HAS LIKE A NEW STIPULATION FOR SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL INITIATIVE OR WHATEVER THEY'RE CALLING IT.

AND I WAS WONDERING IF THAT IS GOING TO BE ADOPTED IN THIS KIND OF PLAN OR LIKE COVERED IN HERE UNDER EITHER MOBILITY OR, OR WHAT I GUESS SAFETY, UM, OR IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE ADDRESSED INDEPENDENTLY.

IT'S LIKE THE SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL PROGRAM.

I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF LIKE, BUT I JUST KNOW THAT OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT IS WORKING ON IT RIGHT NOW.

YEAH, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT WILL BE, UM, A SEPARATE PLAN, UH, THAT'S ADOPTED.

I MEAN, I HAVE SEEN CITIES ADOPT SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL.

I HAVE ALSO SEEN SCHOOL DISTRICTS ADOPT, UM, SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL.

YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT CITY STREETS IN THE AREAS AROUND THE SCHOOLS.

UM, AND SO WE DO HAVE STUFF IN THE MOBILITY ELEMENT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO GET WALKING BIKE TO SCHOOLS SAFELY MM-HMM .

UM, AND THEN I THINK ANY ADDITIONAL DETAIL WOULD PROBABLY COME IN A SEPARATE PLAN.

OKAY.

I DIDN'T, THIS IS A LOT SO I DIDN'T READ IT.

SURE, SURE.

YOU HAVE TILL APRIL.

OKAY.

YEAH, I, I DID HAVE AN ACTUAL CLARIFYING QUESTION.

UM, WASN'T NOTHING ABOUT PHOTOS OR ALTHOUGH IT WAS SAD TO SEE THE SOLAR PARK WITHOUT THE DEER CRAZING, TAKEN OUT.

IT WAS SAD.

THAT WAS ONE OF MY FAVORITES.

UM, WE'LL FRAME THE COPY .

YEAH, DON'T WORRY.

I TOOK A PICTURE WHEN WE WERE MEETING.

IT'S SAVED, IT'S MY LOCK SCREEN.

UM, THE MIDTOWN, UM, IS THERE, WE, I KNOW FOR A LONG TIME WE KIND OF LIKE CIRCLED BACK TO THERE WILL BE LIKE A NO BUILD ELEMENT TO IT, UM, WHICH I DON'T THINK WE'VE NECESSARILY EVER REALLY COVERED.

UM, SO I GUESS I'M MORE JUST KIND OF LIKE ASKING LIKE NOW WITH LIKE, NO PUN INTENDED, VALLEY LINK CLEARLY RUNNING ON FUMES.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE MUCH LESS OF A TRANSIT ORIENTED SPECIFIC PLAN.

SO I GUESS I'M JUST LIKE WONDERING IF WE'RE JUST LIKE, MAYBE LIKE IS THE PLAN TO JUST KEEP THIS AS IS AT THIS, I MEAN GIVEN THE 11TH HOUR AS FAR AS THE GENERAL PLAN GOES AND THEN KIND OF RE LIKE ITERATE AS IT GOES, UM, OR IF THERE IS LIKE A NO BUILD THAT EXISTS THAT WE JUST NEVER KIND OF COVERED.

SO THERE ISN'T SPECIFICALLY A NO BUILD, DON'T DO ANYTHING HERE.

YEAH, JUST THE VISION AND THE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL STILL, YOU KNOW, CONTEMPLATE A SPECIFIC PLAN OVER THIS 20 YEAR TIME HORIZON THAT COULD BE A MIX OF DIFFERENT USES, UM, AND A COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD.

PART OF THE DIRECTION THOUGH THAT COUNCIL GAVE IS WHEN WE DELIVERED SOME OF THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMITTEE, WE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THIS COMMITTEE WANTED TO KNOW WHAT'S THE CONTINGENCY.

YEAH.

IF VALLEY LINK DOESN'T COME, AND I'M PARAPHRASING HERE, BUT THE COUNCIL DID SAY, UM, WE SHOULD PURSUE THIS, UH, AS A COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT WE NEED TO DO SO IN A MANNER THAT'S INDEPENDENT, SUPPORTIVE OF, BUT INDEPENDENT OF A REGIONAL RAIL STATION BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS FOR THAT.

YEAH.

SO AS OF NOW, IT'S STILL WORK WITH THE UNDERLYING PROPERTY OWNERS CONSIDER A SPECIFIC PLAN, THERE'S GUIDING PRINCIPLES AND THE GENERAL PLAN.

AND AT SOME FUTURE POINT, UM, THE CITIES

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OR A GROUP OF LANDOWNERS IN THE AREA COULD DECIDE, UH, TO INITIATE A SPECIFIC PLAN.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YEAH, I WAS JUST, I THINK ANDY SUMMARIZED THAT VERY WELL.

I THINK TRANSIT WAS NEVER THE ORGANIZING PRINCIPLE FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD PER SE.

I THINK IT'S THAT YOU HAVE A VERY LARGE, VERY FLAT, UNDEVELOPED PIECE OF LAND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COMMUNITY.

UM, SO IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE THAT THAT SITE COULD REMAIN AS IS INDEFINITELY AND STILL MEET BROAD GOALS AND OBLIGATIONS THAT THE CITY HAS, YOU KNOW, PLANNING OVER A 20 YEAR TIME HORIZON.

BUT I THINK SOME OF THESE CHANGING CONDITIONS, PARTICULARLY THE VALUE LINK REALIGNMENT, IS MAKING US LOOK COLLECTIVELY VERY INTELLIGENT OF ASSIGNING THIS A SPECIFIC PLAN AREA AS OPPOSED TO ACTUALLY PROGRAMMING IT THROUGH THE GENERAL PLAN PROCESS.

BECAUSE THERE WILL BE AN EXTENSIVE OUTREACH AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, ITERATIVE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS THAT WILL HAVE TO HAPPEN AS PART OF THIS SPECIFIC PLAN EXERCISE BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT I THINK ARE UNKNOWN AT THIS TIME.

AND SO AS WE ROLL FORWARD POST GENERAL PLAN INTO THE SPECIFIC PLAN EXERCISE, WE'LL HAVE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, KNOWN KNOWNS AND THEN KNOWN UNKNOWNS AND VARIOUS OTHER THINGS AS WE TRY TO PUT PEN TO PAPER AROUND THAT.

YEAH, YEAH, I MEAN I THINK IT'S WORTH NOTING, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY IT'S LIKE IT IS WHAT IT IS AT THIS POINT.

I THINK IT'S WORTH NOTING, LIKE MIDTOWN IS ABSOLUTELY, THE VISION WAS TRANSIT ORIENTED.

I MEAN LIKE FOR YEARS, LIKE IN FACT LIKE IT WAS A OBVIOUS LIKE POINT OF LIKE IT WAS A TALKING POINT, LIKE ESPECIALLY WHEN WE DID LIKE BREAKOUT GROUPS AND STUFF LIKE WITH THE POSTERS AND WE DID THAT WHOLE EXERCISE LIKE THERE WAS NO MIDTOWN WITHOUT TRANSIT.

SO I THINK, I MEAN IT'S LIKE, SO, SO I I WOULD RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE BECAUSE WE SPECIFICALLY USE TERMS TRANSIT SUPPORTIVE BUT NOT TRANSIT DEPENDENT.

WELL, SO YES, TRANSIT IS, IM IS IMPORTANT IN THE CONTEXT OF ANY LAND USE PLANNING EXERCISE, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S THE CASE THAT IF VALLEY LINK DOESN'T HAVE A SOUTH FRONT ROAD STATION THAT THERE ISN'T AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD A COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I MEAN, WE WENT SEVERAL ROUNDS AROUND THAT AND USED THAT LANGUAGE SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL OF VALLEY LINK TAKING, NO PUN INTENDED, A DIFFERENT ROUTE.

SURE.

I MEAN, I THINK, YEAH, , I DISAGREE WITH YOUR DISAGREEMENT.

SO , THAT'S, I DUNNO KNOW WHAT THE SPEAKING IS.

YES, THERE'S A BIT OF A BIT OF FLAVOR HERE OF, UH, I TRIBUTED TO, UH, NEIL'S BOAR OF, UH, MAKING PREDICTIONS IS PARTICULARLY DIFFICULT WHEN THEY INVOLVE THE FU FUTURE.

UM, BUT I I, I GUESS THE QUESTION I, I, A FEW YEARS AGO I HAD HEARD THAT, OH, YOUNG FAMILIES, THEY REALLY DON'T WANT A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE HAPPY WITH SOMETHING WHERE THEY HAVE LESS TO TAKE CARE OF AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND THAT WAS NOT OUR KIDS AND IT WAS NOT OUR KIDS' FRIENDS.

AND, AND WHAT I'M HEARING NOW IS THAT THE MARKET IS, YOU KNOW, SINCE EVERYBODY'S BEEN BUILDING THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN HOME SORT OF THINGS, THAT THE MARKET'S SORT OF OVER OVERSATURATED WITH THAT.

NOW THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S GONNA BE THAT WAY FOR 20 YEARS.

I DON'T, I DON'T MEAN TO PRETEND THAT THAT'S THE CASE, BUT, BUT I DO ASK THE MORE GENERAL QUESTION.

HAVE, HAVE WE ACTUALLY BEEN OPERATING UNDER ASSUMPTION IN THE PLANNING THAT THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY ARE WILLING TO, UM, TOLERATE NOT REALLY THE RIGHT WORD, MAYBE AS HIGH A DENSITY IS AS BE IS BEING OFFERED HERE? IN OTHER WORDS, UM, ARE WE BEING DRIVEN IN A WAY THAT MAYBE REALLY ISN'T WHAT PEOPLE WANT? YEAH.

ARE YOU TALKING CITYWIDE MIDTOWN OR JUST GENERALLY WELL CITYWIDE, BUT I MEAN IT MOSTLY APPLIES TO, YOU KNOW, THE NEW PRODUCT THAT'S COMING ON BECAUSE THE OLD PRODUCT ALREADY EXISTS, RIGHT.

SO SURE.

WELL I THINK THAT THAT'S A HELP, THAT'S A WORTHWHILE REFERENCE POINT THAT I THINK WHAT WE ARE BEING DRIVEN BY COLLECTIVELY IS MORE THAN ONE THING.

AND I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARILY THAT I, I DON'T RECALL THE STATEMENT BEING MADE THAT THE YOUNGER GENERATION DOESN'T WANT SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOUSING.

I THINK PEOPLE WANT TO QUOTE TED LASSO ALL PEOPLE ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND THEY WANT DIFFERENT THINGS AND SOME FOLKS WANT A LITTLE BIT MORE YARD GARAGE AND THEY'RE WILLING TO MAINTAIN THAT.

SOME PEOPLE DON'T.

I THINK WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO IS FACILITATE A LOT OF CHOICE IN HOUSING WHILE ALSO MEETING A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT, UM, OBLIGATIONS AND CRITERIA THAT WE ARE SUBJECT TO.

SO WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA SAY RENA, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A YEAR PROBABLY THAT YOU'VE HEARD IT, YOU KNOW, FROM ME DIRECTLY AT LEAST WE DO HAVE STATE HOUSING OBLIGATIONS FROM A PLANNING STANDPOINT.

WE ALSO KNOW THAT HISTORICALLY AT LEAST YOU COULD SEE A HUNDRED TO $200,000 DIFFERENCE IN AN ATTACHED TOWN HOME VERSUS A SIMILAR SINGLE FAMILY HOME, SIMILAR AGE, SIMILAR SIZE HOLDING ALL THINGS CONSTANT.

SO THERE'S AN AFFORDABILITY

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COMPONENT TO IT AND YOU KNOW, I MIGHT LIKE TO LIVE IN A VILLA ON LAKE COMO, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT'S GONNA WORK WITHIN MY, MY ECONOMICS.

AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SAY WE'VE GOT A REASONABLE RANGE OF CHOICE IN TERMS OF DENSITY AND LIFESTYLE.

WE'VE GOT A REASONABLE RANGE OF CHOICE IN PRICE AND THAT PEOPLE CAN MOVE AROUND WITHIN ALL OF THAT MENU OF OPPORTUNITY.

SO IF YOU SAY LIKE, I DID, YOU LIVE IN A TOWN HOME IN DOWNTOWN BEFORE YOU HAVE KIDS AND THEN YOU MOVE INTO A SINGLE FAMILY RANCH STYLE HOME WHILE YOU RAISE YOUR FAMILY.

AND THEN WHEN YOUR KIDS ARE GONE, MAYBE YOU MOVE INTO, YOU KNOW, A, A CONDO OR A A TOWN HOME THAT, OR STACKED FLAT THAT IS SINGLE STORY AND YOU CAN AGE IN PLACE AND STILL BE NEAR AMENITIES.

UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE CAN PREDICT EXACTLY WHAT EVERY GENERATION, LET ALONE EVERY MEMBER OF THAT GENERATION IS GOING TO PREFER AND THEN DESIGN HOUSING SPECIFICALLY FOR THEM.

BUT IF WE HAVE ENOUGH OF A RANGE OF OPTIONS, PEOPLE CAN MOVE AROUND AND WE HAVE AROUND 30,000 HOUSING UNITS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE THE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED VARIETY.

I THINK IT'S SOMETHING IN THAT BALLPARK.

SO WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT REPLACING SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOUSING IN MOST CASES WITH, UH, SOMEWHAT HIGHER DENSITY MULTIFAMILY.

AND EVEN THE DENSITY OF TOWN HOMES THAT WE'RE SEEING TODAY IS LARGELY STILL IN THE TEENS.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT DENSITIES IN THE TWENTIES, THIRTIES AND UP FROM THAT R.

RIGHT.

I, WELL IT, IT, IT, THE OTHER PART OF MY, IN THE BACK OF MY MIND IS DO WE EXPECT THE ARENA ALLOCATIONS TO STAY THE WAY THAT THEY ARE? WHAT ARE THE ECONOMIC DRIVERS? AND, AND, AND, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM KNOWS THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT, BUT I THINK THE, THE ISSUE OF MIDTOWN I, I WAS, I WAS ONE WHO HAD KIND OF WAS LEANING TOWARDS A LOWER DENSITY THAN WHAT I THINK THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMITTEE DID.

AND NOW, UM, I I, SINCE THAT'S KIND OF ONE OF THE BIGGEST PLACES OF UNDEVELOPED LAND, UH, I, AND WE DON'T, IT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE SPECIFIC PLAN, WHAT, WHEN IT GETS MOVED FORWARD, WHAT, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE MARKET WANTING THEN THAT THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

AND YOU KNOW, REGARDING WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH RENA ALLOCATIONS, UH, A SMART PERSON ONCE TOLD ME THAT PREDICTIONS ARE REALLY COMPLICATED WHEN THEY INVOLVE THE FUTURE.

SO I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US KNOW HOW THE STATE IS GOING TO APPROACH THE RENA ALLOCATION PROCESS.

UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WORK CLOSELY WITH HCD AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE CAN SEE IT.

IT'S, IT'S THERE, THERE ARE RULES AND THEN THERE'S POLICY AND THERE'S VIBES AND THERE'S SORT OF ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT GO INTO IT.

UM, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT THOUGH THAT IN THE SPECIFIC PLANNING EXERCISE, AND THIS IS HOW IT ALWAYS WORKS FOR US, WE GO OUT AND WE TALK TO PROPERTY OWNERS, WE TALK TO, YOU KNOW, ECONOMISTS, WE TALK TO BROKERS, WE TALK TO PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING IN THAT SPACE AND TRY TO DO SORT OF TWO THINGS.

ONE IS HAVE ENOUGH OPPORTUNITY THAT'S RESPONSIVE TO MARKET CONDITIONS TODAY AND THEN HAVE ENOUGH OPPORTUNITY THAT IS A LITTLE PERHAPS MORE ASPIRATIONAL.

AND THESE POLICY DOCUMENTS ARE SETTING SOME OF THAT TONE FOR WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE ASPIRATIONAL? WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO ACHIEVE? AND RECOGNIZING THAT WE ALSO ARE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO COURSE CORRECT ALONG THE WAY.

AND WE DO THE ISABEL NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HEARING RIGHT NOW FROM DEVELOPERS UP THERE ABOUT CHANGES IN MARKET CONDITIONS AND WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE SOME CHOICES ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH RESPECT TO, TO DENSITY BECAUSE THE INTEREST RATES AND, AND THE COST OF THE INPUTS AND MARKET DEMAND AND THE JOB MARKET OVERALL ARE ALL CONSPIRING TO CHANGE THE CONDITIONS.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S INCUMBENT ON US ON THE CITY SIDE AND PEOPLE WHO WILL COME AFTER US, NOT JUST TO SAY, WELL HERE'S THE PLAN, DO YOUR BEST, BUT TO ALSO BE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, THESE ARE LIVING DOCUMENTS AS LONG AS WE'RE ABLE TO GATHER INTELLIGENCE FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO BUILD THESE THINGS AND FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH WE NEED TO BE RESPONSIVE VERSUS MAINTAIN THE SPIRIT OF WHATEVER THAT POLICY DOCUMENT WAS.

THANK YOU.

HOPING, HOPING EVERY COMMITTEE MEMBER WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO SAY A FEW WORDS.

NO, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I KNOW A LOT OF WORK HAS BEEN PUT INTO THIS.

DO WE ACTUALLY EXPECT MAJOR CHANGES AT THIS POINT? I'M GUESSING NOT.

NO EXPECTING EMMY LIKE IT'S TAKING SO LONG.

NO, AT THIS POINT THIS IS YOUR DRAFT AND IT REPRESENTS THE YEARS OF WORK THAT WE'VE ALL COLLECTIVELY IN THIS ROOM PUT INTO IT.

AND SO THIS IS THE DRAFT THAT WILL BE BROUGHT BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL.

IF THERE'S ANY SUGGESTIONS, WE WILL DOCUMENT THAT ON THE SIDE AND BRING IT TO THE COUNCIL FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION IN MAY.

BUT BOTH CHANGES AT THIS POINT WOULD PROBABLY BE COUNCIL ALL CHANGES WOULD BE DIRECTED BY COUNCIL.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC? MIGHT, BECAUSE WE'LL, THEY'LL BE REPORTING TO COUNCIL TWO MORE TIMES, RIGHT? TWO MORE TIMES.

IS THAT RIGHT? ONE MORE TIME.

ONE TIME IN MAY.

AND THEN ANOTHER TIME IN JULY

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FOR ADOPTION.

GIVEN THIS DRAFT IS PRETTY FINAL IN 20 YEARS, IF I'M STILL ALIVE IN MY EIGHTIES, I WILL COME BACK AND ASK WHY DIDN'T YOU HAVE ANYTHING, UH, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.

AND I'M HOPING YOU CAN FIND A WAY.

I KNOW WE HADN'T MET SINCE NOVEMBER, 2024 AND DURING THAT TIME THIS TOPIC HAS EXPLODED AND SAVED THE ENTIRE STOCK MARKET.

AND UH, UH, SO I KNOW THE DRAFT IS FINAL, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WILL AFFECT OUR DAILY LIFE IN 20 YEARS.

AND IF THERE ARE WAYS YOU CAN RE YOU CAN INTRODUCE THAT IN SOME SORT OF REVISION, THAT WOULD BE MY SINCERE SUGGESTION.

OKAY.

AND YOU HAVE SOMETHING.

YEAH.

UM, MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT CONTROLLING OR SOMETHING.

THAT'S RIGHT.

IT ALL.

UM, SO TO BE FAIR, I PUT IT IN GR AND IT SAID GOOD JOB.

SO I FEEL LIKE AS FAR AS AI GOES, REALLY, DO WE DO ANTHROPIC? DO WE DO OPEN AI? UM, YOU KNOW, I'D BE, YOU KNOW, QUESTION TO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

HAS ANYONE FINISHED THE 485 PAGES PLUS THE REFERENCES YET? YEAH, WE SCROLL THROUGH.

NO, SAME.

SO ALL RIGHT, COOL.

I'M LOOKING FOR, YEAH, SO I'VE STILL GOT SOME HOMEWORK TO DO, BUT UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THE, FOR THE NEXT MEETING, I, YOU KNOW, WE, IT'S BEEN A LONG JOURNEY HERE.

WE'RE HAPPY TO BE BACK AND SEE THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE.

UM, I GUESS RECOMMENDATION, UM, AND I'M SURE IT'S ALREADY OUT THERE, BUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, AS WE KIND OF COME TO THE CONCLUSION OF THIS, UM, IT WOULD BE NICE TO BE REMINDED OR SHOWN, UM, HOW WE MAY REMAIN ON THE TRAJECTORY OF THIS GPAC, UM, AND OTHER FORMS OF CIVIC DUTY SOMEWHAT TO, UM, WHAT, YOU KNOW, A FEW OF US HAVE SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE CHECKPOINTS OF POTENTIAL REVISION ALONG THIS 20 YEAR TIMELINE WHERE THEY MIGHT EXIST SO THAT WE CAN KEEP MARKERS OUT FOR THAT.

UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I MEAN, I'M, I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE I HOPE, UM, ANY, ANYTIME SOON.

UM, AND IT WOULD JUST BE NICE TO HAVE THOSE CHECKPOINTS OF HOW I CAN REMAIN, UM, IN TUNE WITH, YOU KNOW, THE OVERARCHING DOCUMENT FOR HOW OUR CITY MAKES DECISIONS FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS AND BEYOND.

UM, CONSIDERING THE WORK THAT WE'VE ALL SPENT OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS.

SO, LIKE I SAID, THAT INFORMATION MIGHT ALREADY BE OUT THERE.

UM, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE AS WE COME TO A PROPER CONCLUSION OF THIS, THAT IT'S JUST REINTRODUCED FOR ANYBODY WHO JOINS.

UM, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THERE'LL BE A LOT OF EYES ON IT, PARTICULARLY TOWARDS THE COMPLETION AS HOW TO LIKE REMAIN INVOLVED 'CAUSE THE WORK IS REALLY ONLY, AGAIN, JUST GETTING STARTED.

UM, YOU KNOW, THAT BETTER THAN ANYBODY IS MY ONLY REMAINING SUGGESTIONS RESPONSE FROM STAFF ON, ON THAT.

SO ANDY TURNED MY MIC OFF.

HE DOES THAT.

UM, NO, I THINK THAT THAT'S A, THAT'S A VERY INTERESTING PROJECT FOR US TO UNDERTAKE OF SORT OF LOOKING AT THAT.

I WOULD ALSO SAY, REFER BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT HAS ALL OF THE SUBORDINATE PLANNING DOCUMENTS IN IT.

MM-HMM .

SO WHEN WE LOOK AT, YEAH, JOANNA'S GONNA PULL THAT UP.

REMEMBER THAT THE GENERAL PLAN IS LARGELY A, YOU MAY NOT, YOU SHALL KIND OF DOCUMENT.

WE DON'T LOOK TO THE GENERAL PLAN TO DRIVE OUR FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN, OUR BUDGETS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE ARE, WE TEND TO BE CLOSER TO WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY AS WE'RE WORKING ON THINGS LIKE STRATEGIC PLANS, EVEN SPECIFIC PLANS, AS I WAS JUST MENTIONING.

THERE'S LOCAL ECONOMIC CONDITIONS OR RECENT ECONOMIC CONDITIONS WILL BE REFLECTED IN THAT.

SO THERE ARE GONNA BE A BUNCH OF OTHER REGULAR CITY PLANNING EXERCISES.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE A NEW FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WILL START TO UNDERTAKE, I THINK IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO, THAT'LL BE A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO PAY ATTENTION AND, AND WEIGH IN BECAUSE THAT IS GOING TO HEAVILY REFLECT WHAT THE GENERAL PLAN SAYS.

EVERYTHING YOU'VE SEEN ABOUT TOURISM AND HOSPITALITY, EVERYTHING YOU'VE SEEN ABOUT THE INNOVATION ECONOMY, EVERYTHING YOU'VE SEEN ABOUT OPEN SPACE AND TRAIL CONNECTIVITY THERE, THAT'LL SHOW UP IN PIECES IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

AND THAT STRATEGIC PLAN IS GONNA DRIVE WHAT WE DO EVERY DAY.

AND THEN YOUR BUDGET EVEN MORE SO IS THE ULTIMATE VALUES DOCUMENT.

AND IT WILL SAY, YOU'RE GONNA DO THESE THINGS, YOU'RE GONNA SPEND THIS MONEY AND YOU'RE GONNA TRY TO ACHIEVE THESE OUTCOMES.

SO WE'LL WANNA REGULARLY, I THINK, REVISIT THE GENERAL PLAN AND OF COURSE PLANNING COMMISSION AND PLANNING STAFF AND OTHERS DO THAT WITH EVERY DEVELOPMENT PROJECT THAT COMES ALONG.

BUT IF THERE ARE PARTICULAR AREAS OF THE GENERAL PLAN THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU THAT YOU FEEL LIKE NEED TO BE CARRIED FROM THIS 20 YEAR ARC DOWN INTO

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PLANS THAT INFLUENCE WHAT HAPPENS EVERY DAY, THESE ARE SOME OF THE AREAS WHERE YOU'LL, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO, TO CONTINUE TO FLEX THE KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU'VE GAINED THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

I WAS JUST GONNA SAY ONE MORE THING RELATED TO WHAT BRANDON SAID ABOUT PLANNING COMMISSION AND DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS.

SO MR. RILEY, UH, IS OUR SECRETARY TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

EVERY DEVELOPMENT PROJECT THAT THEY SEE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS TO MAKE FINDINGS.

AND THE FINDINGS SAY, IS THIS PROJECT CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE ZONING? SO ALTHOUGH IT WON'T BE A CHECKPOINT TO SEE IT CHANGE, YOU WILL SEE IT BEING IMPLEMENTED AND EVOLVING PROJECT BY PROJECT, ACTION BY ACTION.

SO YOU CAN SEE IT IN WORK O OKAY.

I DO, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION, BUT I, I CAN'T HELP MAKING A SMART ASS COMMENT AS WELL.

BUT, UH, JUST AS LIVERMORE PROUDLY BUILT THE LAST PHYSICAL LIBRARY IN THE US ON THE EVE OF EVERYTHING GOING VIRTUAL, THIS WAS THE LAST, UM, PLAN, GENERAL PLAN BUILT WITH AUTHENTIC INTELLIGENCE AND NOT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.

SO I THINK WE SHOULD ALL BE PROUD OF THAT.

UM, I, I THINK THE ISSUE, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY THE MOST TROUBLING ISSUE I THINK FACING THE, THE COMMUNITY IS, UM, NO, IT'S NOT MY BUSINESS.

IT'S, IT'S MIDTOWN BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THAT WAS THE SOLUTION TO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ARENA CYCLES NOW IN, IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE POSSIBLY TO, AND EVEN THREE MORE.

UM, I THINK WHAT HAPPENED AT THE CITY COUNCIL, OBVIOUSLY THE GPAC SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THAT, WHICH, YOU KNOW, ALL SORT OF WENT BY THE WAYSIDE.

AND MAYBE THAT WAS, UM, UH, GOOD BECAUSE I THINK THERE WAS A GUIDING PRINCIPLE.

IT WAS DEFINITELY TRANSIT ORIENTED AND IT DEFINITELY HAD HIGH, RELATIVELY HIGH DENSITY AT THE HIGHWAY WHERE THE STATION WOULD BE, AND THEN IT WENT TO LOWER DENSITY AS YOU MOVED AWAY, WELL THEN THE STATION MOVED AWAY.

SO IF WE GO TO THE MICRO STATION ON VASCO, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT ACTUALLY REVERSE ITSELF AND IT MIGHT JUST BE BECOME MORE BORING, YOU KNOW, INDUSTRIAL ALONG THE HIGHWAY AND THEN THE DENSITY IS GONNA MOVE DEEPER INTO THE CITY THAN ANYONE EVER ANTICIPATED.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND THE SPORTS FIELDS DISAPPEAR AND ARE REPLACED BY, YOU KNOW, VERY TALL STRUCTURES.

BUT, UM, THE PERIMETER IS MY QUESTION, WHICH IS WE SET THE PERIMETER BASED ON A A FIVE 80 STATION AND LOOSELY USED A ASCO AS, OR UM, LAS PASITAS ROAD AS THE SOUTHERN PERIMETER.

BUT IF IT, IF IT ACTUALLY TILTS WHERE IT'S LIKELY TO TILT IF IT HAPPENS, UM, SHOULD THE PERIMETER BE CHANGED IN THE GENERAL PLAN, THE MIDTOWN PLANNING AREA? YES.

I MEAN, BECAUSE IT, SHOULD IT TILT DOWN TO ACTUALLY PICK UP THE EXISTING MICRO ACE STATION ? UM, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU THE VERY SATISFYING ANSWER OF MAYBE, BUT PROBABLY NOT RIGHT NOW.

UM, I THINK WE, OUR POSITION, OR AT LEAST MY POSITION WOULD BE WE SHOULD SEE WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS WITH VALLEY LINK BEFORE WE START ADJUSTING WHAT THE MIDTOWN PLANNING AREA IS.

AND WHEN WE GO TO ACTUALLY INITIATE A SPECIFIC PLAN AREA, WE'RE NOT GOING TO NOT CONSIDER ALL THE APPROPRIATE CONTEXT SIMPLY BECAUSE THE MIDTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN BOUNDARY WAS DRAWN ON A MAP A PARTICULAR WAY.

SO IF AS WE MOVE TOWARD THE PLANNING EXERCISE ITSELF, YOU'RE CLEARLY GOING TO HAVE A VALLEY LINK STATION THERE AND NOT ANYWHERE ELSE, OR YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ONE THERE.

AND ALONG THE Z CURVE ON THE WESTERN END OF, OF MIDTOWN, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN FLOATED AS WELL, IS THAT THERE'LL BE AN INFIELD STATION.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH BART AT THIS POINT, SO I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND CHANGING THE MIDTOWN PLANNING AREA AT THIS POINT, SIMPLY TO MOVE WITH VALLEY LINK.

WE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AND REFLECT THE ACTUAL CONDITIONS ON THE GROUND WHEN THE SPECIFIC PLAN EXERCISE COMMENCES, BUT OBVIOUSLY VERY OPEN TO OTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT.

CLARIFY, DOES, DOES THAT MEAN, UH, DOES THAT MEAN THAT BO UH, POLICY WILL BE WRITTEN IN A WAY THAT LETS THE BORDERS BE DRAWN DIFFERENTLY THAN, I'M GOING HAND THIS TO, TO ANDY THE DEAL WITH THE ACTUAL LIKE TECHNICAL PLANNING ASPECT OF THIS? I THINK WHAT I'M SAYING IS KINDA VISUALIZE WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

YEAH.

SO RIGHT NOW YOUR GENERAL PLAN MAP SAYS THIS IS GONNA BE MIDTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN.

MM-HMM .

BUT I THINK, AND YOU KNOW, ANDY AND MR. RILEY CAN WEIGH IN WHEN YOU ACTUALLY GO TO DO THE SPECIFIC PLAN, YOU'RE NOT BOUND BY THAT.

SO YOU WOULD LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE TIME AND

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IF VALLEY LINK HAS A FULLY FUNDED STATION ROUTE AND THEY'RE BUILDING AND VASCO ACE, WE'LL NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT TRANSIT ORIENTED OPPORTUNITIES EXIST AROUND THAT.

UM, BECAUSE YOU, YOU CAN PROBABLY ONLY ACHIEVE CERTAIN DENSITIES IF TRANSIT IS NEARBY, BOTH FROM A MARKET STANDPOINT AND FROM A COMMUNITY IMPACT STANDPOINT.

SO WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.

BUT YOU, YOU AREN'T CONSTRAINED BY WHAT'S ON THIS MAP WHEN YOU ACTUALLY GO TO DO THE PLANNING EXERCISE.

IS THAT, AM I GETTING THAT RIGHT? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? YEAH, UH, VERY HAPPY THAT WE HAVE A VERY EFFICIENT MEETING TODAY.

UH, HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE GIVE EVERYONE, AS JEREMY SAID, UH, AT LEAST A COUPLE MORE WEEKS, A FEW MORE WEEKS, AND, UM, RECONVENE IN APRIL BEFORE WE ACTUALLY DISCUSS ANY POSSIBLE SUGGESTIONS.

AGAIN, THIS IS NOT REQUIRED, BUT IF WE WERE TO HAVE ANY FORMAL SUGGESTIONS, UH, WE CAN MAYBE HO COME BACK AND THINK ABOUT WHAT WE MAY DO IN APRIL.

AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS, UH, WE ARE FREE TO FORMALIZE ANY COMMENTS WE HAVE AND WE CAN TAKE A VOTE IF SOMETHING SHOULD BE WRITTEN OR NOT.

WE CAN LET IT GO WITHOUT ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS.

OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO IS IF WE WANT TO PROVIDE SOME WRITTEN, YOU KNOW, CONSENSUS, WE, WE ARE, UH, FREE TO DO THAT WITH A VOTE AND THAT WILL BE GIVEN, UH, BASED ON STAFF RECOMMENDATION THAT WOULD BE PUT TOGETHER AND, AND BE FORWARDED TO THE THE PLANNING COMMISSION CORRECT.

NEXT.

SO KEEP THAT IN MIND AND UM, UM, I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE TIME TO READ THROUGH THE DOCUMENTS.

SO IF WE FEEL TODAY WE HAVE DONE ALL WE CAN, I CAN CALL THE MEETING.

NOT YET.

YOU HAVE SOMETHING QUICK POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

I THINK, UM, TED, A FINDER POINT ON THE DIRECTION YOU WERE GIVING, UH, CHAIRPERSON CHANG IS AT THE, THE NEXT MEETING IT'LL BE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS BY INDIVIDUAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS, BUT THE COMMITTEE ITSELF WILL HAVE TO AGREE THAT THAT'S THE COMMENT THEY WANNA PUT FORWARD.

THAT'S RIGHT.

CONSENSUS? YEP.

MM-HMM .

AND WE'LL DO SORT OF THE HAND RAISE.

YES.

AND YOUR STAFF WILL DOCUMENT THAT, REPEAT IT BACK TO YOU, MAKE SURE WE SUMMARIZE IT, CAPTURED IT, AND THEN CARRY THAT FORWARD.

MM-HMM .

PLANNING COMMISSION.

SO, SO WE JUST CALL THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS SO WE WILL HAVE AN ACTUAL CONSENSUS OF, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS OR NOT.

I'M HOPING WE DO AND IN THE NEXT MEETING.

SO, BUT THAT'S JUST FOR THE RECORD, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

I MEAN, LIKE, WE'RE DONE.

SO THE WAY, SO THE WAY IT'LL WORK, UM, BEFORE WE GO TO COMMITTEE MEMBER BURHAM IS YES, THIS IS ANTI THE NEXT MEETING'S ANTICIPATED TO BE YOUR LAST MEETING.

YOU'RE STILL A, UH, ADVISORY BODY UNTIL THE DOCUMENT IS ADOPTED IN JULY.

YEAH.

AND SO WE'LL COLLECT ALL THE FEEDBACK IF THE COMMITTEE AGREES THAT THAT'S THE FEEDBACK THEY WANNA PROVIDE.

BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'RE SEEKING YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL TO ACTUALLY ADOPT THE GENERAL PLAN.

BUT, BUT IT'S NOT JUST FOR THE RECORD.

SO WE WOULD CARRY THAT FORWARD AND SAY, THIS IS, HERE'S THE DOCUMENT THE GPAC HOPEFULLY HAS MADE THE RECOMMENDATION TO, TO APPROVE THE DOCUMENT, AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE THIS FEEDBACK, SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL COULD ACTUALLY CONSIDER IT AND ACT ON IT IF THEY WANT.

PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD ONLY BE MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL TO, YOU KNOW, TO ACT ON THAT OR TO INCLUDE IT IN THEIR, THEIR COMMENTS.

BUT THERE'S STILL AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO INFLUENCE THE PROCESS EVEN THOUGH THE DOCUMENT IS PRETTY WELL BAKED AT THIS POINT.

'CAUSE THE COUNCIL CAN DIRECT WHATEVER CHANGES IT WANTS.

SO, YEAH.

SO I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THIS IN MY OPINION CAN PUT IN COMMENTS AS A, AS A CITIZEN.

UM, I, I PUT IN A BUNCH OF STUFF WHERE I THOUGHT THE WORDING WAS, UM, NOT QUITE RIGHT.

IT WASN'T A DISAGREEMENT WITH THE POLICY, IT JUST THOUGHT THAT THE WORDING NEEDED TO BE TWEAKED A LITTLE BIT.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT BRINGING THOSE ISSUES UP TO THE GPAC IS REALLY WORTH THE GPA TIME .

I, I, I THINK THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT AND SAY, HEY, YEAH, THAT WOULD IMPROVE OR NOT, AND I'M, AND I'M FINE WITH THAT DECISION.

SO I THINK, I THINK THE POINT THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE IS, IS IF THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE THERE THAT WE NEED TO BRING IT UP AND DISCUSS

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IT HERE AND THEN MAKE A FORMAL DECISION.

BUT, UM, IS, IS THAT, CAN I, AM I READING YOU CORRECTLY? THAT'S CORRECT, YEAH.

OKAY.

SO INDIVIDUALLY, UH, AS YOU SAID, EITHER WE CAN VOICE YOUR FEEDBACK HERE OR ANYTIME TO THE PROJECT TEAM.

AND IF YOUR FEEDBACK IS RESIN SORT OF WE, YOU KNOW, IS RESONATED BY OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS, WE CAN INCLUDE THAT FORMALLY AS OUR FEEDBACK AND THERE WILL BE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS AND THE CITY COUNCIL TO, WE RECOMMEND TO ADOPT THE GENERAL PLAN DOCUMENT SO THAT WE DO HAVE ONE ACTION IN THE APRIL MEETING.

WE NEED TO MAKE AT LEAST ONE RECOMMENDATION WHETHER TO ADOPT THE, THE PLANE.

SO BEFORE WE ADJOURN, IS THAT CLEAR? OKAY.

UH, I THOUGHT I SAW A HAND.

OH NO, I JUST CASCADING.

UH, IN THE NEXT MEETING, WILL THE PLANNING TEAM SHARE ANY FEEDBACK THAT HAS BEEN LIKE INDIVIDUAL, LIKE SORT OF THE AGGREGATE SO THAT IN CASE IT DOESN'T COME UP FROM THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE, BUT IT HAS COME UP MAYBE NUMEROUS TIMES BY THE PUBLIC, UH, THAT YEAH.

ONE OF THE ITEMS WE'LL BRING BEFORE YOU IS NOT JUST THE DRAFT GENERAL PLAN, BUT THE SUMMARY OF ANY PUBLIC FEE OF SUMMARY OF ANY PUBLIC FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED TO DATE.

SO YOU HAVE THAT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND YOUR DELIBERATIONS BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY.

SO, UH, LOTS OF HOMEWORK TO DO.

UH, AND I'M OKAY WITHOUT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

I'M GONNA ADJOURN THE MEETING.

APRIL FOOL DAY, COME BACK IF YOU CAN REMEMBER, REMEMBER APRIL FOOL DAY, WE'LL COME BACK AND, UH, SAME TIME.

SEVEN O'CLOCK.

YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

OKAY.

TRICK.

DEBBIE .

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

PROJECT TEAM.

YES.

OFFICIALLY THOUGH YOU HAVE TO ADJOURN THE MEETING TO OUR NEXT REGULAR RELEASE SCHEDULED MEETING ON APRIL 11TH.

OKAY.

WE ARE MEETING ON APRIL 1ST, BUT FOR THE RECORD, IT NEEDS TO BE ADJOURNED TO APRIL 11TH.

OH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS A TYPO.

? , UH, WE HAVE, UH, 2, 2 2 SPECIAL MEETINGS.

OH, TWO, TWO MORE.

NOT JUST ONE MORE.

JUST THIS ONE AND ONE NEXT.

SO WE'RE NOT MEETING ON OH, WE ARE NOT MEETING ON THE 11TH, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE TO SAY YES OFFICIALLY, WE ADJOURNED TO THE NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING ON APRIL 11TH, BUT WE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING ON APRIL 1ST.

THEREFORE, WITH THAT NOTE, THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.

GOODNIGHT.