* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [1. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:02] WE WILL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. FOUR 30. ALRIGHT, I'M READY TO TAKE THE ROLL. ALRIGHT. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, IF YOU CAN JUST ANSWER I TO INDICATE THAT YOU ARE PRESENT. COMMISSIONER BABAR AYE. COMMISSIONER DIOR. AYE. COMMISSIONER GUZMAN. AYE. COMMISSIONER KLEI. AYE. COMMISSIONER LANE IS ABSENT FOR THE RECORD. COMMISSIONER MILDER AYE. COMMISSIONER SEIN. AYE. VICE CHAIR HURST AYE. AND CHAIR CUSTODIO AYE. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO THE OPEN FORUM. HAS ANY PUBLIC COMMENT BEEN RECEIVED? NO PUBLIC COMMENTS BEEN RECEIVED. AWESOME. WITH THAT I WILL CLOSE THE OPEN FORUM. , DO I READ THESE PARTS HERE? THE BULLETS? DO I READ THESE BULLET POINTS HERE OR DO WE JUST MOVE ALONG? OH, NO, YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO. AWESOME. WELL THEN WE'RE JUST GONNA [4. CONSENT CALENDAR] MOVE TO ITEM FOUR, WHICH IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR, 4.1, APPROVAL OF DRAFT MINUTES FROM JANUARY 27TH, 2026. IS THAT GOOD? DO I HAVE TO SAY IT'S A, YEAH. UM, WELL, THERE'S NO STAFF. SORRY, THERE'S NO STAFF REPORT. REPORT FOR THE MINUTES AND, UH, NO PUBLIC COMMENT'S BEEN RECEIVED. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE ITEMS OF THE PREVIOUS MONTH'S AGENDA? MINUTES? DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM? MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. COMMISSIONER KLEI. IS THERE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER MELDER. ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION? AYE. BE ANY OPPOSED? IS THERE ANY ABS? NO. ALL RIGHT. THE MOTION PASSES. WE'LL CLOSE THIS ITEM AND MOVE FORWARD TO [5. MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION ] THE MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION. ALL RIGHT. FIRST STEP IS ITEM 5.1. SELECTION OF CFA VOLUNTEERS TO JUDGE THE TEEN ART EXPO. IS THERE A STAFF PORT? JUST A BRIEF ONE. THANK YOU. CHAIR CUSTODIO. UH, THIS ITEM REQUEST THREE COMMISSION VOLUNTEERS TO SERVE AS JUDGES FOR THE 20 20 16 ART EXPO HOSTED BY THE LIVERMORE PUBLIC LIBRARY. UH, THE LIBRARY DISPLAYS, UH, ARTWORK IN EARLY APRIL AND JUDGES ARE ASKED TO, UH, EVALUATE BETWEEN APRIL 2ND AND APRIL 13TH. THE RECEPTION FOR THE ART EXPO IS APRIL 13TH, MONDAY, APRIL 13TH. UM, THERE'S NO FORMAL VOTE REQUIRED, BUT THE COMMISSION SHOULD COLLECTIVELY AGREE ON WHO THOSE VOLUNTEERS ARE. ALL RIGHT, PERFECT. AND IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? NO PUBLIC COMMENTS BEEN RECEIVED. WITH THAT, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OF THIS ITEM? IF THE MILD, IF THE AWARD CEREMONY IS THE 13TH, PRESUMABLY THE JUDGES HAVE TO SUBMIT THEIR MATERIALS BEFORE THAT. DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHEN THE JUDGES HAVE TO HAVE THE MATERIALS IN? WE CAN GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT. UM, BUT THAT'S, SO IT'S A WIDE WINDOW APRIL 2ND THROUGH THE 12TH. SO IT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE BEFORE. ALRIGHT. YEAH, THE RECEPTION. ABSOLUTELY. UM, IF, IF I VOLUNTEERED, THERE'S A SMALL CHANCE SOME OF THE STUDENTS MAY BE MY EX-STUDENTS. IS THAT A CONSIDERATION? I SHOULDN'T VOLUNTEER. I, I WOULD SAY SO. UM, I WOULD SAY DON'T VOLUNTEER IN THIS CASE. JUST, UM, I DON'T HAVE A FORMAL OFFICIAL STATEMENT ON THAT, LIKE ABOUT YOU NEEDING TO ABSTAIN, BUT I'D SAY IF YOU HAVE STUDENTS POTENTIALLY INVOLVED, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PRIZES ARE. I DON'T THINK IT'S A FINANCIAL PRIZE, BUT I GUESS POTENTIALLY IT WOULD BE. SO YEAH. ESPECIALLY IN THAT CASE. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT. IS THERE, WE HAVE TO FIND JUDGES THREE. DO WE HAVE THREE VOLUNTEERS? COMMISSIONER DIOR, ELLI, COMMISSIONER KELLY AND COMMISSIONER MILDER. PERFECT. YEP. AND I DON'T THINK YOU NEED A CHAIR MM-HMM. FOR THIS ONE. FANTASTIC. THANK YOU . OKAY. WE, UH, WILL JUST CLOSE THIS ITEM AND MOVE ALONG TO THE NEXT SOUNDS. GREAT. FIVE POINT ITEM 5.2 IS THE ESTABLISHMENT OF AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TO REVIEW MINI GRANT APPLICATIONS. IS THERE A STAFF REPORT? THERE IS. THANK YOU CHAIR CUSTODIO. [00:05:01] UH, SO THIS ITEM REQUESTS THE APPOINTMENT OF AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TO REVIEW MINI GRANT APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED FOR THE MARCH 2ND CYCLE. UH, THE COMMITTEE WILL WORK WITH STAFF TO REVIEW ELIGIBILITY ALIGNMENT WITH COMMISSION GOALS AND FUND, MAKE A FUNDING RECOMMENDATION TO THE FULL, UH, COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL. STAFF IS REQUESTING, UM, TWO ACTIONS THIS EVENING. ONE TO ESTABLISH THE COMMISSION OR AD HOC COMMITTEE AND, UH, TO FIND MEMBERS. WONDERFUL. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? NO PUBLIC COMMENT'S BEEN RECEIVED. AH, WITH THAT WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM SLASH VOLUNTEERS FOR THE AD HOC COMMITTEE? I CAN VOLUNTEER MYSELF. UM, I JUST WANTED TO ASK ABOUT ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS AS THE MASTER PLAN AND YET THERE'S NO LINK. I JUST NEEDED AN ANSWER FOR THAT. 'CAUSE I HAVE TWO PEOPLE WHO WERE WANTING TO APPLY ACTUALLY MORE THAN THAT. UM, AND SO HOW DO I DIRECT THEM? BECAUSE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE STRANDS FROM THE MASTER PLAN, BUT WHEN I GO TO THE PAGE ON THE WEBSITE, THE LINK SAYS PAGE NOT FOUND. SO THE STRANDS FROM THE FORMER LIVERMORE, WHAT WAS IT? ALIVE? I THINK CULTURAL ARTS PLAN. UM, THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY IS WHERE THE STRANDS LIVE, AND THAT ACTUALLY IS IN THE ART AND PUBLIC PLACES POLICY AND PROCEDURE MANUAL. IF YOU GET ANYBODY WHO HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I MEAN, DON'T GET ME WRONG, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO KNOW AS WELL. BUT IF YOU SHOULD GET ANYBODY WHO'S HAS ANY TROUBLE FINDING ANYTHING OR NEEDS TO BE CONNECTED TO A RESOURCE, YOU CAN ALWAYS DIRECT THEM, UM, DIRECTLY TO STAFF AND WE'RE HAPPY TO SUPPORT THEM WITH FINDING ANYTHING. AND THEY STILL HAVE TIME. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR VOLUNTEERING TO BE PERFECT? COMMISSIONER? OH, ESTABLISH THE AD HOC COMMITTEE. WOULD WE LIKE TO ESTABLISH THAT? SO MOVED. SO MOVED. DO I I DON'T NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON THAT, DO I? OH, WHO? OKAY, COOL. SHOULD PROBABLY READ SECOND HERE. DO, UH, BEAUTIFUL. WE HAVE COMMISSIONER GOSMAN SECONDING. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO CREATE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? FANTASTIC. THE MOTION PASSES TO ESTABLISH THE MINI-GRANT AD HOC COMMITTEE HAS PASSED. DO I HAVE A, ANY VOLUNTEERS? WE HAD COMMISSIONER SANE, COMMISSIONER MILDER, AND MYSELF. CHAIR CUSTODIAN. UM, MAY I GO AHEAD? UH, JUST CLARIFY AGAIN, THE TIMETABLE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE APPLICATIONS COME IN BY MARCH 2ND, CORRECT? MARCH. DO WE HAVE TO HAVE THE DECISION BACK TO YOU? UH, SO IT SHOULD COME BACK. UM, WE'RE IDENTIFYING THE END OF MID MARCH, UM, FOR THE, UM, IN TIME FOR THE MARCH COMMISSION MEETING. SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME BACK ANY EARLIER THAN THE MEETING ITSELF. IT SHOULD COME BACK THE, UM, SECOND WEEK BECAUSE THE PACKAGE WILL GO ON THE 20TH. UM, PACKET WILL BE DISTRIBUTED. JUST SAY OUT LOUD THE PACKET WILL BE DISTRIBUTED FOR THAT MEETING ON MARCH 20TH. MEANING WE HAVE OUR, OUR INTERNAL SUBMISSION DEADLINES ON THE 17TH. I WOULD SAY PROBABLY A GOOD DATE TO SAY WE NEED TO HAVE IT BY IS PROBABLY FRIDAY THE 13TH. I'D SAY THAT'S PROBABLY A THAT'S GOOD. WONDERFUL. DOES THAT DATE AFFECT ANYBODY WHO WAS OF VOLUNTEERING? ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO SELECT COMMISSIONER MILDER? COMMISSIONER ZAIN AND CHAIR CUSTODIAL FOR THE AD HOC COMMITTEE. SO MOVED. BEAUTIFUL. IS THERE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER KLEI. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THIS MOTION PASSES TO SELECT COMMISSIONER? YES, AND I DON'T THINK I NOTED IT. IT OKAY. OH, WE DO NEED A CHAIR. I CAN TRY IT. ALRIGHT. WE HAVE CHAIR S SAYING FOR THE AD HOC QUESTION GRANT COMMITTEE. YES. YOU GO MAKE THE DATES. IF THE SUBMISSION DEADLINE IS THE SECOND, WHEN WILL THE COMMITTEE RECEIVE IT IN THEIR HANDS TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW IT? YEAH, THAT'S A, A FEW DAYS TO DO STUFF, RIGHT? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO WE WILL AIM TO HAVE IT TO THE COMMITTEE BY THE END OF THAT WEEK. SO MARCH THE WEEK OF, UM, BY THE FIFTH OR THE SIXTH. THAT'S THURSDAY OR FRIDAY A WEEK TOO, CORRECT? YEAH. THANK YOU. THAT AND AND FOR CLARIFICATION, THIS IS FOR THE MINI GRANTS, [00:10:01] RIGHT? RIGHT. THE ONE PAGER. IT MIGHT BE GOOD IN THE FUTURE TO LIST THOSE THREE DATES. JUST 'CAUSE 'CAUSE THAT'S, THOSE ARE KIND OF FAIRLY IMPORTANT DATES TO MAKE SURE THE COMMITTEE'S GOT THAT. WONDERFUL. WELL, I WILL NOTE WE DID HAVE A MOTION TO PASS, UM, THE, UH, MINI AD, MINI GRANT AD HOC COMMITTEE WITH COMMISSIONERS, MILDER CHAIR, CUSTODIAL AND CHAIR AS COMMISSIONER SAN FOR THIS, WE WILL CLOSE THIS ITEM AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SOUNDS GREAT. ALL RIGHTY. ITEM 5.3 IS THE ESTABLISHMENT OF AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TO REVIEW PROJECT AND PROGRAM GRANT APPLICATIONS. IS THERE A STAFF REPORT? YES. THANK YOU. CHAIR CUSTODIO. SO THIS ITEM AGAIN REQUESTS APPOINTMENT OF AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TO REVIEW PROJECT AND PROGRAM GRANTS, UH, APPLICATIONS FOR THE MARCH 2ND CYCLE. UM, THE COMMITTEE WILL, UH, REVIEW THE ELIGIBILITY AND ALIGNMENT WITH THE COMMISSION GOALS, UM, AND PRIORITIES AND RECOMMENDATIONS WILL COME BACK TO THE FULL COMMISSION AT THE END, UH, FOR FINAL APPROVAL. UM, IDEALLY AT THE END OF, UH, THE COMMISSION MEETING IN MARCH, UM, STAFF IS REQUESTING TWO ACTIONS. THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, AND THEN THE MEMBERS TO SERVE ON THAT. WONDERFUL. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT BEEN RECEIVED. WITH THAT, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER ZAIN IS THE, IS THE TIMELINE THE SAME AS THE MINI GRANTS THEN? EXACTLY THE SAME. IT IS. AND ALSO HAVE ANY, UH, BEEN RECEIVED ALREADY? WE HAVE RECEIVED ONE APPLICATION FOR PROJECT AND PROGRAM GRANTS AND, UM, ONE APPLICATION FOR MINI GRANTS. GRANTS. AND WE RECEIVED ANOTHER ONE. WE DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE IT IS. IF WE JUST RECEIVED IT WHILE WE WERE HERE. UM, I'LL JUST ADD ONE THING BECAUSE IT'LL COME UP FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION AND NOT ANYTHING THAT WE CAN, SORRY, THIS HAS COME LOOSE. NOT ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO DECIDE ON TONIGHT. UM, JUST FUTURE CLARIFICATION WE NEED ABOUT THE PROCESSES. THE MINI GRANT AND THE PROJECT AND PROGRAM GRANT APPLICATIONS THAT WE RECEIVED WERE BOTH FROM THE SAME ENTITY OR FOR THE SAME PROJECT. SO I HAD TO REACH OUT TO THEM TO SEEK CLARIFICATION ON WHAT THEY WERE SEEKING. 'CAUSE THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS, WELL, WE CAN HAVE ONE OF EACH AT A TIME, WHICH IS TRUE, BUT THEY WERE ASKING FOR MONIES TO COVER THE SAME THING, WHICH IN THAT CASE WOULDN'T LIKE. UM, THEIR PROJECT AND PROGRAM GRANT WAS FILLED OUT IN A MANNER WHERE IT WAS LIKE THEY WERE GETTING THE MINI GRANT AND THEN THE MINI GRANT APPLICATION WAS FILLED OUT, LIKE THEY WERE GETTING THE PROJECT AND PROGRAM GRANT. SO JUST ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN THAT LONGER TERM PLAN, UM, IN UPDATING THE FORMS, UH, THE POLICY AND PROCEDURE TO TRY TO CLARIFY THOSE THINGS. BUT FROM RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ONE, UM, UNIQUE APPLICANT FOR BOTH. AND IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, WHAT THEY'RE ULTIMATELY GONNA GO WITH IS A PROJECT AND PROGRAM GRANT. AND THEN AGAIN, AS LANG MENTIONED, WE HAVE ONE IN THE OFFICE THAT WE DON'T HAVE, UM, ANY INFORMATION ABOUT ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ESTABLISH THIS AD HOC COMMITTEE? COMMISSIONER KELLI? IS THERE A SECOND? YEAH. COMMISSIONER MILDER. ALL IN FAVOR A. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION HAS PASSED TO ESTABLISH THE PROJECT AND PROGRAM AD HOC COMMITTEE. NOW, DO WE HAVE ANY VOLUNTEERS TO BE ON THE PROJECT? OH, WE HAVE THREE. PERFECT. IS THERE A CHAIR NOMINEE? I CAN DO IT. WONDERFUL. COMMISSIONER MILDER WILL CHAIR. SO, UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO SELECT COMMISSIONER MILDER AS CHAIR? VICE CHAIR? DO HURST AND COMMISSIONER SANE FOR THIS AD HOC COMMITTEE? I'LL MOVE. WONDERFUL. COMMISSIONER GMAN. IS THERE A SECOND? THAT'S . PERFECT. COMMISSIONER BABAR, IS THERE ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? WE WILL CLOSE THIS ITEM AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT, AS THIS MOTION PASSED TO SELECT THESE COMMISSIONERS TO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE. WONDERFUL. WE ARE MOVING RIGHT ALONG. ITEM 5.4 IS THE ESTABLISHMENT OF AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TO JUDGE AND SELECT WINNER. WOW. IS THIS AGAIN JUDGE AND SELECT WINNERS FOR 2026 LLA SPRING ART AWARDS PROGRAM AND PROJECT GRANT APPLICATIONS. IS THERE A STAFF REPORT? THERE IS A STAFF REPORT. THANK YOU. UM, AND THANK YOU IN [00:15:01] ADVANCE. I WAS GONNA SAY THIS LATER, BUT I'LL SAY IT NOW. UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESS TO GET THROUGH WITH THE ARTS, AS YOU ALL KNOW, AND THINGS ARE MOVING. SO A LOT OF AD HOC COMMITTEES, UM, BEING ESTABLISHED TODAY AND INTO THE NEXT MEETING AS WELL FOR A LOT OF IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH. BUT THIS IS ONE THAT SHOULD BE, UH, PRETTY FAMILIAR TO YOU ALL. IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU DO EVERY YEAR. UM, I WILL NOTE, UM, PROBABLY SOME OF YOU NOTICED IN THE LANGUAGE WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO APPROVE THESE AWARDS LAST YEAR. WE SAID APPROVE THE AWARDS AND THEN APPOINT THE COMMITTEE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, APPROVE THIS WHOLE PROCESS. BUT YOU APPROVE IT AS PART OF THE BUDGET. UM, YOU'VE ALREADY SAID YES. THERE'S $700 OUT THERE FOR THE SEVEN INDIVIDUAL AWARDS FOR THE, UM, LIVERMORE ART ASSOCIATION, UH, SPRING ART SHOW AWARDS. I DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE DATES ON THIS ONE UP FRONT. UM, EXCUSE ME GUYS, I'M JUST RECOVERING. UM, THE AWARDS RECEPTION IS ON THE 19TH OF APRIL FROM 3:00 PM TO 4:00 PM UH, I WOULD RECOMMEND WHOEVER, UH, IF THEY'RE CHOOSING TO ATTEND THAT, UM, YOU GET THERE A LITTLE EARLIER THAN THAT, OF COURSE. NOW THE ACTUAL JUDGING IS A VERY NARROW WINDOW. IT'S GONNA HAVE TO OCCUR ON APRIL 17TH, WHICH IS THE FRIDAY BEFORE. UM, AND YOU'LL HAVE TO BOTH NOTIFY THE ART ASSOCIATION CONTACT ON SITE AND LIBRARY STAFF THAT SAME DAY. SO IT IS A NARROW WINDOW. ANYBODY WHO'S DONE IT BEFORE THEY REMEMBER IT'S, UH, A PHONE CALL TO US. YOU CAN TELL THEM RIGHT THERE ON UM, SITE BECAUSE THERE'S CERTIFICATES THAT HAVE TO BE PREPARED, UM, THAT WE NEED TO BE WORKING ON INTERNALLY. AND THEN OF COURSE, THEY NEED TO DO THEIR PART OF THE EFFORT AS WELL. UM, THIS IS SOMETHING AGAIN, THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY, IMPORTANT TO THE ART ASSOCIATION. WE'LL HAVE REPRESENTATION FROM THE CITY COUNCIL. AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE THE VICE MAYOR WHO WILL BE THERE. AND YES, WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU, UM, APPOINT AN AD HOC COMMITTEE, APPOINT MEMBERS, APPOINT A CHAIR, AND, UH, MAKE THIS HAPPEN. THANK YOU. WONDERFUL. HAS WITH, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS? NO PUBLIC COMMENTS BE RECEIVED. GREAT. WITH THAT, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM AMONGST COMMISSIONERS? DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ESTABLISH THIS AD HOC COMMITTEE? SO MOVED. COMMISSIONER DE ALICE SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GOUSMAN. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? WONDERFUL. THE MOTION IS PASSED TO ESTABLISH THE LAA SPRING ART AWARDS AD HOC COMMITTEE. MOVING TO ADDING MEMBERS. IS THERE ANY VOLUNTEERS? WE HAVE COMMISSIONER DARREN ALICE, COMMISSIONER GMAN AND COMMISSIONER KKI . WONDERFUL. DO WE NEED A CHAIR FOR THIS? YES. ANY VOLUNTEERS TO CHAIR? COMMISSIONER GMAN? THANK YOU. I WOULD SAY THAT THE MAIN ROLE OF THE CHAIR WILL BE THE PERSON WHO MAKES A NOTIFICATION. SO THE RESPONSIBILITY FALLS ON YOU. GREAT. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO SELECT COMMISSIONER DEIS? COMMISSIONER GOSSMAN AND COMMISSIONER KLEI TO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE. SO MOVED. COMMISSIONER MILDER. IS THERE A SECOND? VICE CHAIR? HURST. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES TO SELECT COMMISSIONERS. DEAR ALICE, GMAN AND KLEI TO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE. WE WILL NOW CLOSE THIS ITEM AND MOVE ALONG TO THE NEXT, WHICH, IF YOU COULD GUESS, ITEM 5.5 IS THIS ESTABLISHMENT OF ANOTHER AD HOC COMMITTEE, TO REVIEW APPLICATIONS, INTERVIEW CANDIDATES, AND MAKE A SELECTION RECOMMENDATION FOR THE NEW POET LAUREATE. IS THERE A STAFF REPORT? YES MA'AM, THERE IS. AND SO THIS HAS BEEN ONE THAT HISTORICALLY COMES UP EVERY TWO YEARS. WE'RE ACTUALLY DISCUSSING THIS A LITTLE LATER, UM, THAN WHAT YOU HISTORICALLY HAVE. BUT, UM, I'LL GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION THAT I HAD AT THE TIME OF THE REPORT AND THEN SOME OTHER INFORMATION THAT WE JUST RECENTLY GOT THAT'S IMPORTANT AS WELL. BUT, UM, POET LAUREATE, UH, CURRENT POET LAUREATE, PEGGY SHIMEL. HER TERM ENDS ON JUNE 30TH OF THIS YEAR. UM, SHE HAS INDICATED DEFINITIVELY THAT SHE WILL NOT BE APPLYING FOR REAPPOINTMENT, SO WE WILL NEED TO FIND A NEW POET LAUREATE. UM, THERE IS ONE BENEFIT TO THAT IN THAT, UM, NOW PEGGY CAN SUPPORT THE PROCESS. SHE CAN BE A PART OF HELPING US SELECT WHO'S GONNA BE THE NEW POET LAUREATE. SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING THE, UH, COMMISSION FOR THE ARCH TO DO TODAY IS OF COURSE ESTABLISH AN AD HOC COMMITTEE WITH A CHAIR. UM, YOU'LL BE ASKED AS A MEMBER OF THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE TO REVIEW [00:20:01] THE APPLICATION MATERIALS AS THEY COME IN TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE FULL COMMISSION. AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE FULL COMMISSION WILL BE ASKED TO MAKE A RE RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL. SO, UM, THAT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. UM, THERE MAY BE SOME INFORMATION THAT WE GET, UM, IN TERMS OF DATES, LIKE IF DATES ARE EXTENDED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WE'LL DO OUR BEST ABSOLUTELY. TO GET INFORMATION BACK TO THE COMMISSION AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. UM, AT THE TIME, UM, ALL WE KNEW WAS THAT THEY WERE SHOOTING FOR APPOINTMENT BY THE CITY COUNCIL BETWEEN MAY AND JUNE. BUT SINCE THAT TIME, WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN NOTIFIED THAT, AND I HAVE THE DATES HERE. THE RECRUITMENT FOR POET LAUREATE WILL OPEN ON FEBRUARY 26TH, AND IT WILL CLOSE ON APRIL 3RD AT 5:00 PM THIS WILL RUN AT THE SAME TIME AS THE GENERAL ADVISORY BODY RECRUITMENTS. THE COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS HAS NO MEMBERS WHO ARE EXPIRING THIS YEAR, SO THERE WON'T BE ANY RECRUITMENT, BUT OTHER BODIES AND, UM, COMMISSIONS WILL HAVE THAT. AND, UM, IN ADDITION TO PEGGY, UM, SUPPORTING AND, YOU KNOW, BEING A PART OF THE, UH, GROUP WHO WILL MAKE THESE DECISIONS WILL BE A SHARE WALLER WHO A LOT OF YOU SHOULD KNOW ALREADY. SHE WAS PREVIOUSLY A, UH, COMMISSIONER. SHE'S ALSO A FORMER POET LAUREATE. I TALKED TO HER, UM, JUST FOR JUST GENERAL SUPPORT THROUGH THE PROCESS, ASKING ABOUT LIKE WHAT SHE HAD GONE THROUGH. SHE IMMEDIATELY WAS WILLING TO, UM, PARTICIPATE AND GIVE HER KNOWLEDGE. SO WHILE THE AD HOC COMMITTEE IS ULTIMATELY MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION, UM, THE CURRENT POET LAUREATE AND CHER WILL BOTH BE INVOLVED AND BE AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT THAT GROUP IN TERMS OF IDENTIFYING WHAT MAKES FOR A GOOD POET LAUREATE OR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. AND THAT IS MY REPORT. THANK YOU. WONDERFUL. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENTS BE RECEIVED. WITH THAT, WE WILL BE CLOSING THE PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? SO, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I REMEMBER THAT I WAS PART OF THIS PROCESS TWO YEARS AGO AND IT'S JUST THE ONE TIME INTERVIEW IN PERSON THAT IS REQUESTED. FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT'S JUST ONE ROUND OF INTERVIEWS. I GUESS HYPOTHETICALLY, UM, THE COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT A REALLY STRONG CANDIDATE POOL AND A LOT OF CONSIDERATION TO MAKE. IT'S POSSIBLE. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY PROHIBITION ON, UM, HAVING A SECOND ROUND OF INTERVIEWS, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S BEEN DONE IN THE PAST. OKAY, GREAT. GOOD TO KNOW. UM, MM-HMM . AND THEN JUST TO REITERATE THE TIMING, YOU SAID THEIR APPLICATIONS ARE DUE, EXCUSE ME, BY APRIL 4TH. AND THEN WHEN ARE THE INTERVIEWS? SO WE DON'T HAVE A DATE FOR THE INTERVIEWS 'CAUSE WE'LL NEED TO GET THE INFORMATION. UM, WE WANT IT TO HAPPEN REASONABLY QUICK. THE ACTUAL END DATE IS APRIL 3RD. BUT YOU'RE, OH, OKAY. YEAH, YOU'RE IN THE SAME TIME WINDOW. I, I KNEW WHAT YOU MEANT. MM-HMM . UM, WE DON'T HAVE A DATE ON INTERVIEWS YET. UM, FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD ONE APPLICANT, I THINK IT'D BE PRETTY REASONABLE TO GO THROUGH THOSE MATERIALS RATHER QUICKLY, GET 'EM BACK, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, COME TOGETHER AND DO THE INTERVIEW. IF WE HAD A LOT OF APPLICANTS, UM, IT MAY BE SOMETHING WE HAVE TO SCHEDULE OVER A COUPLE OF DAYS, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE JUST KIND OF LIKE WHAT YOU'VE ASKED FOR WITH, UM, THE GRANTS, GETTING THINGS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. STAFF WILL WORK TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION. WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR IT TO BE TURNED OVER BY THE CLERK'S OFFICE, BUT AS SOON AS WE HAVE IT, YOU'LL HAVE IT. IT'S, YEAH, I'M JUST ASKING BECAUSE THAT'S SPRING BREAK, BUT, OR AT LEAST IT IS IN THE DISTRICT WHERE I TEACH. SO, UM, GOTCHA. UM, I WOULD SAY WHOEVER VOLUNTEERS FOR THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, UH, SHOULD TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT. I MEAN, THAT'S TOTALLY FAIR. IT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. UM, AND THEN THE COMMUNICATION STAFF WILL MAKE SURE WE COMMUNICATE WITH THOSE MEMBERS AS SOON AS WE HAVE A BETTER IDEA. UM, ULTIMATELY IT'S THE CITY CLERK'S PROCESS, I'M SORRY, THE CITY CLERK WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR RUNNING THE RECRUITMENT. THE COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS IS IN THIS CASE, MAKING A RECOMMENDATION. THAT'S WHERE YOUR ROLE COMES IN. BUT, UM, YOU HAVE, AGAIN, COMMITMENT FROM STAFF TO COMMUNICATE EVERYWHERE WE CAN. COMMISSIONER KELLY? YES. SO APRIL 3RD IS THE DEADLINE TO RECEIVE THE APPLICATIONS, AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, TILL SOMETIME END OF THAT MONTH TO MAKE A DECISION OR, UH, FORGOT. SO WE HAVE SOME RANGE OKAY. OF MAY TO JUNE IN TERMS OF WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND SAY, OKAY, WE'D LIKE YOU TO APPOINT ALL THESE NEW ADVISORY BODY MEMBERS AND A NEW POET LAUREATE. THAT DATE IS YET TO BE DETERMINED. THAT'S WHY THERE'S A LITTLE, [00:25:01] UH, FLUIDITY HERE JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT QUITE CLEAR IF IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THE SECOND MEETING IN JUNE, WE HAVE A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME. I MEAN, LIKE WE COULD USE THE WHOLE, UH, MONTH OF APRIL TO, UM, MAKE THE DECISION TO BRING IT BACK TO THAT MEETING AT THE END OF APRIL, WHICH SHOULD BE THE GOAL. WE'D WANT THE FULL COMMISSION TO MAKE A DECISION AT THE APRIL MEETING. UM, IN TERMS OF WHERE IT GOES FROM THERE, STAFF MEMBERS, MYSELF AND LANG WILL BE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE FOR BRINGING THAT RECOMMENDATION TO THE, UM, TO THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, AT THE DATE THAT THEY DETERMINE THAT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE DETERMINES FOR THAT. OKAY. SO, SO IT'S NOT LIKE AN URGENT THAT APRIL 3RD THAT WEEK, WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION? NO, I, I'D SAY, UM, MY GOAL AND APRIL 3RD, I'M SORRY, JUST GIMME ONE MOMENT HERE. APRIL 3RD IS A FRIDAY. UM, I WOULD SHOOT, I'M GONNA HOPE THAT I HAVE THE MATERIALS FOR APPLICATIONS BY THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK, WHICH IS THE EIGHTH. AND PROBABLY HOW THEY PACKAGE IT AND GIVE IT TO ME IS VERY, VERY CLOSE TO HOW I'M GONNA PACKAGE IT AND SEND IT OUT TO, UH, THE MEMBERS OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE. SO I DON'T THINK THERE SHOULD BE A BIG DELAY, BUT AGAIN, WE'LL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAXIMIZE THE TIME YOU GET. OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OH, I HAVE ONE MORE THOUGH. YEAH, GO AHEAD. UM, UH, COMMISSIONER LANE AND I HAD SPOKEN ABOUT THIS MATTER. SHE HAD, UM, REQUESTED INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROCESS PREVIOUSLY AND I REACHED OUT TO HER KNOWING WHEN SHE INDICATED SHE WASN'T GONNA BE PRESENT, AND SHE SAID, IF THERE'S THREE VOLUNTEERS FOR THIS, GREAT, NO PROBLEM. UM, BUT ULTIMATELY SHE IS WILLING TO BE A PARTICIPANT IN THIS PROCESS AS PART OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE. SO, YEAH, NORMALLY WE SHOULDN'T BE APPOINTING PEOPLE IF THEY'RE NOT HERE DECIDING. I WAS GONNA SAY VOLUNTOLD. I'M REALLY GOOD AT THAT. WELL, ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ESTABLISH THIS AD HOC COMMITTEE? COMMISSIONER MILDER? IS THERE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER SANE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AND NOPE. THE MOTION PASSES TO ESTABLISH THE POET LAUREATE AD HOC COMMITTEE. NOW, DO WE HAVE ANY VOLUNTEERS? TEARS? WE GOT A LOT. YEAH. FULL HANDS. . WELL, AND WE'VE GOT HERE TOO. OKAY. SO WE HAVE FOUR ALREADY HERE. WE HAVE FOUR. RAISE THEIR HANDS VERY QUICKLY, THEN REALLY SLOWLY BRING 'EM BACK DOWN. , I'LL, I'LL GET DROPPED. YEAH. OKAY. SO FOR SURE. COMMISSIONER BABAR, WOULD WE LIKE TO SUGGEST COMMISSIONER LANE AS WELL, BUT YOU HAD THE FOUR ALREADY HERE WHERE, WHAT FOUR? WHICH FOUR? WHO'S THE FOUR? YOU WERE RAISING HANDS TOO, RIGHT? YES, SIR. I CAN WRITE DOWN. THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THERE. WE'RE ALL SO KIND. THERE'S MORE COMMITTEES COMING, NOT JUST THIS MONTH EITHER. , THE FOUR WERE, I SAW COMMISSIONER SAYING, COMMISSIONER KELLY, COMMISSIONER BABAR, AND VICE CHAIR. DO HERST RAISE HANDS IN THIS REVISED TIMELINE WHERE WE'RE NOT REALLY STARTING UNTIL LIKE THE NINTH OR 10TH? I CAN DO IT. I WAS JUST CONCERNED BECAUSE I'M OUT OF TOWN UNTIL THE 11TH, APRIL 11TH. SO IF IT WAS A QUICK TURNAROUND, I COULDN'T DO IT. BUT I, I WOULD ACTUALLY LOVE TO DO IT. UM, IF IT, AND I, I'M JUST, I'M GONNA BE OUT OF THE COUNTRY UNTIL APRIL 11TH. YEAH, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT WOULD STILL BE OKAY. OKAY. SO WE'LL SEND, WE'LL SEND THE MATERIALS AS SOON AS WE GET 'EM AND YEAH, THEN THE AD HOC COMMITTEE SHOULD, WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE QUICK . OH, GOTCHA. YOU COULD SLOW IT DOWN. SLOW IT DOWN SLOW. NO PROBLEM. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT COMMISSIONER BABAR. COMMISSIONER SANE. AND ARE WE LOOKING AT COMMISSIONER LANE AS WELL TO BE ON THAT? ALRIGHT, WELL THEN I WILL DO I HAVE A MOTION TO SELECT COMMISSIONER BABAR, COMMISSIONER S SEIN, AND COMMISSIONER LANE FOR THIS AD HOC COMMITTEE MOVED. WONDERFUL. COMMISSIONER. OH, WE DO THE CHAIR. OH, WE DO NEED A CHAIR. DO THE CHAIR. . IT'S OKAY. . IT'S OKAY. NO, NO. I MEAN, YOU DO NEED A CHAIR. WE DO NEED CHAIR. BUT IF YOU WOULD'VE DONE IT AFTER THIS PART AFTERWARDS, IT'S OKAY. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO CHAIR MANA ? THERE'S THE VOLUNTOLD WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. THERE'S THAT. IT COULD BE THE VOLUNTOLD. I KNOW THAT SHE HAS BEEN THROUGH THIS AT LEAST. SO YEAH, WE WILL HAVE, UM, COMMISSIONER LANE, BE THE CHAIR FOR THIS . UM, WHERE DID I LEAVE OFF? ALAN, WILL YOU BE SUBMITTING THE MATERIALS IN IAM CONTAMINANT? ? SAY THAT AGAIN. OR SOME FORM OF POETRY. I THINK YOU, NOTHING WILL TOP, UM, COULD BE A KU COMMISSIONER. MILD. HE DID THE WHOLE, UH, PRESENTATION TO THE COUNCIL TO RHYME. SO PERHAPS I'LL DO THAT. . I I'LL GIVE IT A SHOT. WONDERFUL. SO THEN DO I HAVE, I DON'T THINK I DID THIS [00:30:01] , DO I HAVE A MOTION TO SELECT COMMISSIONER BABAR? DID I OH, YOU HAVE A MOTION. YOU JUST NEED TO VOTE NOW. DO I HAVE A, OH, SHE DIDN'T, I DON'T THINK I DID. OH, WELL, DO I HAVE A MOTION? SORRY TO SELECT COMMISSIONER BABAR. COMMISSIONER SANE AND COMMISSIONER LANE AS THE CHAIR FOR THIS AD HOC COMMITTEE. SO MOVED. COMMISSIONER DEAR ALICE, IS THERE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER MILDER. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AND THE MOTION PASSES. WE WILL CLOSE THIS ITEM AND MOVE ALONG TO THE NEXT. OH MY GOSH. ITEM 5.6 IS THE ESTABLISHMENT OF ANOTHER AD HOC COMMITTEE TO REVIEW AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON UPDATED APPLICATION FORMS, PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE LIVERMORE MUNICIPAL CODE AND PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE ART IN PUBLIC PLACES POLICY AND PROCEDURE MANUAL. IS THERE A STAFF REPORT? YES, MA'AM. ALRIGHT. SO, UM, THIS IS THE ONE I'M MOST EXCITED FOR BECAUSE IT KIND OF GOES IN LINE, UH, WITH A LOT OF THE WORK WE'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING BEHIND THE SCENES. AND WE'RE EXCITED TO, UM, WORK WITH BOTH AN AD HOC COMMITTEE OF THE COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS AS WELL AS THE FULL COMMISSION. UM, IT'S, I THINK IT'S BEEN WELL STATED. WE HAVE SEVERAL THINGS, UM, IN THE ART AND PUBLIC PLACES POLICY AND PROCEDURE MANUAL, UM, AS WELL AS THE LIVERMORE MUNICIPAL CODE. AND OUR APPLICATION FORMS THAT HAVE BEEN, I WON'T SAY OBSTACLES, BUT THEY'VE HAVE BEEN POINTS OF FRUSTRATION AT TIME. EITHER THEY'RE OUTDATED, UM, OR THEY'RE JUST NO LONGER SUFFICIENT FOR WHAT THE NEEDS OF THE ARTS COMMUNITY AND THE COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS IS. AND THIS YEAR, UM, AND IT'S GONNA TAKE LONGER THAN A YEAR, BUT THIS YEAR WE WANNA PUT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF EFFORT INTO IMPROVING PROCESSES, IMPROVING POLICIES, UM, MAKING IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO CONNECT WITH THE INFORMATION THAT IS IMPORTANT TO THEM. UM, THE THING FOR ME AT LEAST THAT I'M MOST INTERESTED IN DOING IS JUST ANY OF THE OBSTACLES THAT CAUSE PEOPLE TO JUST NOT PARTICIPATE WITH THE ARTS, OR NOT ENGAGE WITH THE ARTS. I WANT TO ELIMINATE OBSTACLES. UM, KIND OF THE STRATEGY THAT WE'VE TAKEN, UM, UP TILL NOW IS FIXING BROKEN THINGS. SO WHEN WE SEE AN APPLICATION, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON THE, UM, HIGH SCHOOL SENIOR AND WELL HIGH SCHOOL, JUNIOR AND SENIOR ARTS , UH, WE WENT THROUGH THE APPLICATION AND THERE WERE THINGS THERE THAT JUST WEREN'T VALID ANYMORE. OR WE SAW APPLICATIONS WHERE IT HAD OLD INFORMATION, OLD CONTACT PEOPLE. UM, CAN PEOPLE STILL GET THEIR NEEDS MET? ABSOLUTELY. WE'RE STILL GONNA BE A RESOURCE AVAILABLE TO THEM, BUT SOME THINGS WERE JUST WRONG AND WE HAD TO IMPROVE THOSE. THAT WILL STILL BE THE MAIN PRIORITY. AND THAT WILL PROBABLY BE A LOT OF THE INITIAL WORK THAT'S ASKED OF THIS AD HOC COMMITTEE. IT'LL BE A LOT OF STAFF SAYING, HEY, WE'RE WORKING TO FIX THIS. WE'RE WORKING TO MAKE THIS ACCURATE. ONCE WE HAVE REALLY MADE TRACTION WITH FIXING BROKEN THINGS, THEN THE EFFORT COMES TOWARDS IMPROVEMENT. UM, AGAIN, ELIMINATING SOME OF THOSE OBSTACLES, ANY PAIN POINTS THAT EXIST OUT THERE THAT ARE, UH, STOPPING PEOPLE FROM ENGAGING, THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT EFFORT. AND THEN I KIND OF SEE THE THIRD PHASE AS BEING, THEN WE REALLY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO JUST WORK ON SOME OF THOSE LONG TERM THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT OFF PROBABLY FOR YEARS BEFORE. SOME FOLKS HAVE EVEN BEEN A PART OF THE, SOME OF YOU HAVE EVEN BEEN A PART OF THE COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS. THERE'S SO MUCH TO DO. UM, BUT IF WE DON'T JUST GET INTO IT AND GET MOVING WITH IT, IT'S GOING TO JUST ALWAYS KIND OF BE THIS THING THAT'S PUSHED DOWN THE ROAD. SO, UM, AS I NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT, THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG PROCESS. I DON'T FORESEE THIS ENDING, UM, AFTER THE, THE ONE YEAR. I DON'T SEE THIS BEING SOMETHING WHERE IT'S LIKE, OH, WE HAVE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR A YEAR, AND THEN THAT'S THE END OF THE PROJECT. I JUST CAN'T SEE IT. I THINK WHOEVER, UM, VOLUNTEERS TO BE A PART OF THIS, YOU CAN CONSIDER THAT IS PROBABLY GONNA BE A HIGHER FREQUENCY THAN WHAT YOU'VE EXPERIENCED WITH SOME OF THE OTHER AD HOC COMMITTEES. UM, CONSIDER AGAIN THAT THE WORK PROBABLY WON'T END AT THE END OF THE YEAR. WE MAY HAVE TO EXTEND THE COMMITTEE OR MAYBE EVEN LOOK TO A SUBCOMMITTEE OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. WE, WE JUST CAN'T SAY YET. UM, AND YEAH, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH, A LOT OF INFORMATION GATHERING, A LOT OF SUGGESTION GATHERING WITH THIS ONE. SO THIS ONE'S GONNA BE A LIFT. SO JUST NOT TO SCARE ANYBODY OFF, BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER THAT BEFORE VOLUNTEERING. AND THAT'S MY REPORT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENTS BEEN RECEIVED. GREAT. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER KLEI? SO IF YOU SAY [00:35:01] IT COULD BE GOING INTO NEXT YEAR AS WELL. RIGHT, SO THEN I THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER WHETHER IF ONE YEAR MAXIMUM THOSE THREE PEOPLE GET FINISHED, IF THEY GET REAPPOINTED, THAT WOULD BE BETTER. OTHERWISE YOU LOSE THE LOT OF, UH, WORK RELATED CONTINUITY. RIGHT? SO WE CAN'T TAKE ANY ACTION ON ANYTHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN AFTER THE YEAR, AFTER THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE, UM, EXPIRES. AGAIN, IT COULD BE THE TYPE OF THING WHERE THE WORK IS SO PROMINENT AND WE FIND THAT IT'S, UM, SO MEANINGFUL THAT IT MAKES SENSE TO REQUEST A SUBCOMMITTEE BE ESTABLISHED AND, UH, THAT REQUIRES PERMISSION OF THE CITY COUNCIL. IT MAY BE THAT AFTER A YEAR, UM, THE MOST OF THE WORK IS DONE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT GROUP OF PEOPLE CAN JOIN IN AND, YOU KNOW, GIVE THEIR INFLUENCE. IT'S JUST WE CAN'T MAKE ANY DECISION ABOUT THAT YET. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SILENCE. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ESTABLISH THIS AD HOC COMMITTEE? COMMISSIONER KELLY? IS THERE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER BABAR. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES TO ESTABLISH THE AD HOC COMMITTEE. MOVING ALONG TO ADDING MEMBERS TO THIS HEFTY COMMITTEE. COMMISSIONER KLEI, VICE CHAIR HURST. AND I CAN LOOK AT MYSELF. CHAIR CUSTODIAL. SO WITH THAT, ANYONE ELSE? ARE WE GOOD WITH THAT? DO I HAVE A MOTION TO SELECT SARAH, DO I NEED A CHAIR OR DO WE WE DO NEED A CHAIR. . ANYONE? VICE CHAIR HURST VOLUNTOLD IS CHAIRING , DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO SELECT COMMISSIONER KLEI CHAIR CUSTODIAL AND TO CHAIR THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, VICE CHAIR HURST FOR THIS AD HOC COMMITTEE. SO COMMISSIONER MILDER, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. COMMISSIONER DE ALICE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES TO SELECT THESE COMMISSIONERS FOR THE AD HOC COMMITTEE. WE WILL NOW CLOSE THIS ITEM AND MOVE ALONG TO THE NEXT FOR OUR, WHAT I KNOW TO BE OUR FINAL ITEM, 5.7 OF ESTABLISHING ANOTHER AD HOC COMMITTEE TO REVIEW SUBMISSIONS FOR THE LIVERMORE PLAZA UTILITY BOXES MURAL PROJECT. IS THERE A STAFF REPORT? YES MA'AM. AND THANK YOU. SO ITEM 5.7, THE LAST OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEES FOR THIS MEETING. UM, BACK IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024, UH, STAFF ADVISED THE COMMISSION THAT THE CITY WAS PLANNING TO INSTALL A MURAL ON THE UTILITY BOXES LOCATED WITHIN LIVERMORE PLAZA. UH, STAFF NOTED THAT THE MURAL SHOULD HAVE A WINE COUNTRY THEME ON THE SIDE FACING NDA, WINE BAR AND A SCIENCE THEME FACING THE FOUNTAIN. MM-HMM . A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS WAS SOLICIT, EXCUSE ME, SOLICITED THROUGH THE CAFE ARTS PLATFORM. IT WAS OPEN FROM FEBRUARY 21ST THROUGH MARCH 7TH. UM, WE RECEIVED THE SUBMISSIONS, UM, BUT ULTIMATELY NONE MOVED FORWARD INTO AN AGREEMENT TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT. UH, THE CITY IS ELECTED TO REVISE THE PROJECT SCOPE AND RES SOLICIT FOUR PROPOSALS. SO THERE ARE A TOTAL OF FOUR UTILITY BOXES WITHIN LIVERMORE AND PLAZA AS SHOWN IN THE ATTACHMENT, UM, IN YOUR PACKET. AND WE CAN BRING IT UP FOR ANYBODY WHO HASN'T SEEN IT. UM, THE CITY ULTIMATELY MAY SELECT ONE ARTIST FOR THE FULL PROJECT OR MULTIPLE ARTISTS FOR THE INDIVIDUAL BOXES. THESE SPECIFIC DETAILS WILL BE LISTED WITHIN THE RFP FRAMEWORK FOR ANYBODY WHO REVIEWS IT THROUGH CAFE ARTS. SORRY. UM, THE, TO ASSIST AND GUIDE YOUR WORK WITH THIS, THE AD HOC COMMITTEE AND THE FULL COMMISSION WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE SAME INFORMATION THAT'S AVAILABLE TO INTERESTED ARTISTS GOES TO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE AND THE FULL COMMISSION. IT'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION THAT CAN BE SHARED WITH ALL, UM, THE PREVIOUS AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT WAS APPOINTED FOR THIS WORK. UM, THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE EXPIRED ON JUNE 30TH OF LAST YEAR. UM, IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT THE NEW AD HOC COMMITTEE WOULD RUN FROM THE DATE OF ESTABLISHMENT THROUGH JUNE 30TH BASED ON WHEN WE ANTICIPATE THE WORK WOULD BE DONE, SHOULD NEED TO EXTEND PAST THAT. UM, I DID LIST OUT THE TENTATIVE DATES, UM, WHEN CONSIDERING THE APPOINTMENTS, UM, FOR ANYBODY AGAIN, WHO'S GONNA VOLUNTEER, OUR GOAL IS TO LAUNCH THE RFP NEXT WEEK ON MARCH 4TH. UM, THE GOAL IS FOR THAT TO RUN THROUGH MARCH 27TH. I DO JUST WANT [00:40:01] TO MENTION THAT THERE ARE SOME FACTORS THAT COULD AFFECT THAT. THESE ARE ULTIMATELY TENTATIVE DATES. IT'S POSSIBLE IT COULD BE A LITTLE EARLIER, IT COULD BE A LITTLE BIT LATER, DEPENDING ON ANY OUTSIDE FACTORS OR INFORMATION WE RECEIVE FROM STAKEHOLDERS. SO, UM, IF THAT WINDOW DOES WORK THAT WAY, UM, ULTIMATELY BY APRIL 1ST, WE WOULD LIKE TO GET THOSE SUBMISSIONS SHARED WITH THE AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR REVIEW. WE WERE ABLE TO GET IT TURNED AROUND THE LAST TIME PRETTY QUICKLY. AND I'M HOPEFUL THE SAME. UM, IF I PUT THE RFP OUT, THE RESULTS ALL COME BACK TO ME. SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I NEED TO WORK ON WITH ANYBODY ELSE IN THE CITY. IT'S JUST ME PREPARING THEM AND GETTING 'EM OUT TO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE. UM, THE HOPE WOULD BE AROUND APRIL 9TH THAT THE AD HOC COMMITTEE COULD MEET WITH THE CITY STAFF. THAT'S MYSELF LANG. UM, AND THEN HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THAT MEETING, UH, WE'D BE ABLE TO COME AWAY WITH A COLLECTIVE RECOMMENDATION OF THE TOP THREE OPTIONS. AND ON APRIL 28TH, 2026, THAT IS WHEN WE HOPE THAT THE FULL COMMISSION FOR THE ARTS CAN RECEIVE THAT, UH, RECOMMENDATION FORMALLY AND MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE TOP THREE OPTIONS TO THE CITY. AND THEN OUR HOPE JUNE 1ST, 2026, IS WHEN THE MURAL WORK CAN BEGIN. AND IF IT'S OKAY, I DO WANT TO JUST SHOW IT UP HERE SO I CAN JUST POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS. THERE'S NOT REALLY A GREAT ANGLE OUT THERE TO GET ALL OF THE UTILITY BOXES INTO ONE PICTURE. INITIALLY, UM, THE WAY THE RFP WENT OUT THE FIRST TIME, IT TALKED ABOUT TWO UTILITY BOXES, UM, CONSIDERING THE TWO THAT WERE BACK TO BACK AS ONE, THE GRAY ONE RIGHT NEXT TO IT AS ANOTHER. AND THEN THE SMALL BEST THING I CAN CALL THAT IS CHROME BOX, UM, IN THE RIGHT SIDE, RIGHT MIDDLE SIDE. UM, THAT ONE WAS . UH, THE THIRD ONE, BASICALLY IN THIS CASE FOR THIS PROJECT, WE'RE GONNA SPECIFICALLY CALL OUT THAT THERE'S A TOTAL OF FOUR BOXES. UM, IT'S POSSIBLE, UM, THAT DEPENDING ON HOW CREATIVE THE ARTIST IS, PERHAPS UH, THEY'LL RECOMMEND ONE THEME THAT STARTS ON THE SIDE OF THIS FIRST GRAY BOX AND WRAPS AROUND TO THIS GREEN ONE, LIKE A CONTINUATION. UM, IT'S ALSO POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD GET PROPOSALS FOR THE TWO BOXES SEPARATELY. THE GRAY ONE, THE LARGE BOX IN THE MIDDLE, OBVIOUSLY THAT WILL ACT JUST AS ONE AND THEN THE SMALL, UH, CHROME BOX WILL ACT AS ANOTHER. UM, ONE THING TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, AND I MENTIONED IT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, UM, IT'S POSSIBLE ONE ARTIST COULD COME IN WITH A THEME THAT KIND OF ENCOMPASSES ALL OF THEM AND BE SELECTED FOR MULTIPLE BOXES, BUT THE THEMES ARE ALREADY DECIDED. UM, THAT WON'T CHANGE. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE GOT IN THE PROPOSALS LAST TIME, AND WE INCLUDED EVERYBODY'S PROPOSAL BECAUSE WE WANTED, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE WE WANT TO SHARE THEIR CREATIVITY AND SHARE THE IDEAS, BUT, UM, THE THEMES WILL BE, UH, SCIENCE AND THEN IT'LL BE WINE COUNTRY THEMED. SO JUST TO CLARIFY ON THAT, AND THAT COMPLETES MY REPORT. WONDERFUL. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? SORRY, NO PUBLIC COMMENT'S BEEN RECEIVED, YOU SAY? YES. , IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? COMMISSIONER GASMAN? UH OH, THANK YOU. UH, I WAS ON THE, UH, LAST AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR THIS, UH, AS WERE OTHER COMMISSIONERS. WE MET AND TOOK A PRETTY, UM, WE HAD VERY INTERESTING DISCUSSION BECAUSE THE, THOUGH THE THEMES WERE, AS YOU SAID, THE APPROACHES WERE MUCH DIFFERENT BY THE ARTISTS. SOME VERY ABSTRACT, SOME VERY REPRESENTATIONAL. UH, SO IT WAS QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION AND, UH, WE'D ULTIMATELY MADE OUR DECISION AND THEN WE NEVER DID GET A GOOD, UM, CLARIFICATION ON WHY IT WAS, UH, DELAYED. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT. SO CAN YOU GO OVER THAT AGAIN? WAS [00:45:01] IT BECAUSE SOMETHING IN THE ARTWORK ITSELF OR WAS IT SOMETHING ELSE? A LACK OF INPUT FROM THE BUSINESSES OR WHAT? SO IT WASN'T THAT ANYTHING WAS, UM, LIKE NOT DONE OR THAT WE WERE, THAT WE WERE MISSING SOME PORTION OF INFORMATION. ULTIMATELY, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE RECEIVED AT THE TIME, UH, WERE FORWARD TO OUR, UH, CITY LEADERSHIP TO REVIEW AND MAKE A DECISION. UM, THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THAT REVIEW, ULTIMATELY THEY DECIDED TO GO TO NOT GO FORWARD WITH ANY OF THE OPTIONS, UM, THAT WE HAD BEEN, UH, GIVEN. UM, THE AD HOC COMMITTEE AT THAT TIME, AS YOU REMEMBER, UM, COMMISSIONER GOSMAN, IT WAS A TOP THREE SITUATION AND THAT INFORMATION WAS SHARED AS WELL. WE, WE DID FORWARD THAT INFORMATION, BUT AGAIN, ULTIMATELY IN THE END, UM, THE CITY DETERMINED THAT NONE OF THE OPTIONS AT THAT TIME WERE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS. I THINK PART OF THE SITUATION, UM, THIS TIME AROUND THAT I THINK WILL BE HELPFUL IS WE'RE GONNA BE EVEN MORE SPECIFIC IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. WE HAVE MORE CRITERIA NOW. WE HAVE MORE DETAILS AT WHAT THE CITY IS SEEKING OUT OF THIS PROJECT. LIKE THE SCOPE, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, WE HAD ONE ARTIST WHO, UM, WE SPOKE WITH WHO FELT LIKE THE AMOUNT TO BE PAID SHOULD HAVE BEEN PER BOX AS OPPOSED TO FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT. AND AS WE WENT BACK AND READ, I, I THINK WE, WE DID OUR DUE DILIGENCE, WE CLARIFIED THE INFORMATION, WE GAVE IT ACCURATELY, BUT I ALSO FELT LIKE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT IS, WHAT YOU ARE BEING PAID, WHAT YOU'RE DOING. UM, THIS IS NOT A PROJECT THAT WAS COMPETITIVELY BID. IT WASN'T LIKE, HEY, UM, TELL US WHAT YOU CAN DO UP TO THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT AND HOW MUCH YOU'LL CHARGE TO DO IT. THIS WAS A PROJECT WHERE WE SAID, THIS IS THE AMOUNT, THIS IS THE SCOPE THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. WHAT CAN YOU DO FOR THAT? AND WE'LL HAVE THAT SAME APPROACH AGAIN, BUT WE'LL BE EVEN MORE SPECIFIC THIS WAY. UM, ULTIMATELY WHEN THE AD HOC COMMITTEE AND, UM, THE FULL COMMISSION IS MAKING THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY, UH, HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE, IT'LL BE BASED ON, UM, RESPONSES TO THE RFP THAT ARE AS CLOSE TO WHAT THEY'RE SEEKING AS POSSIBLE. COMMISSIONER DEON ALICE, I, I GUESS I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY ALSO, FIRST OFF, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR BULLETS OF THE DATES IN THERE, BUT I WAS NOTICING ON APRIL 9TH AD HOC COMMITTEE TO MEET WITH THE CITY STAFF TO DISCUSS AND IT'S A COLLECTIVE RECOMMENDATION. SO IS THAT SAYING THAT IT'S CITY STAFF AND THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ALTOGETHER SELECTING? 'CAUSE THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN HOW WE TYPICALLY OPERATE AS AN AD HOC COMMITTEE. I'M SORRY. UH, THANK YOU. AND SEE THAT'S THE TYPE OF AMBIGUITY WE WANT TO AVOID WITH THE RFP. IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT'S BEEN DONE IN THE PAST. THE COLLECTIVE RECOMMENDATION IS THE AD HOC COMMITTEE MEMBERS COLLECTIVELY DETERMINING WHAT THE TOP THREE OPTIONS ARE. STAFF WILL BE PRESENT. LIKE I SAID AGAIN, UH, THAT STAFF IS MYSELF AND LANG TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND SAY, OKAY, HERE WERE THE PARAMETERS. UM, HERE ARE OUR THOUGHTS. NOT IN TERMS OF ANY DECISION MAKING STAFF IN THE, UH, FOLKS WHO WOULD BE MEETING WITH THE AD HOC COMMITTEE WON'T BE INVOLVED WITH ANY DECISION MAKING, BUT WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO BE A SOUNDING BOARD AND BE ASSISTIVE IN SOME WAY, UM, TO THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE. BUT THE COLLECTIVE NATURE, AGAIN, JUST CLARIFY THAT IS THE COLLECTIVE DECISION OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE. THANK YOU. OR RECOMMENDATION, I SHOULD SAY COMMISSIONER GMAN FOR CLARIFYING AGAIN, UM, IN THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAD, THOSE BOXES ARE PRETTY CLOSE TO ONE ANOTHER AND JUXTAPOSITION IS IMPORTANT. SOMETIMES THE ART, THE ARTWORK WOULD LOOK WONDERFUL BY ITSELF, BUT IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO ANOTHER PIECE OF ARTWORK. AND HOW THOSE, YOU PUT TWO MUCH DIFFERENT PIECES OF WORK NEXT TO ONE ANOTHER. UM, I'M CURIOUS HOW, WHETHER THE APPLICATION WANTS TO HAVE MORE OF A UNIFYING THEME. 'CAUSE THEY, THEY MIGHT, YOU MIGHT HAVE VERY MU MUCH DIFFERENT WHOLE APPROACH ON ONE BOX AND THEN SIX FEET AWAY IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LOOK AND THAT, THAT MIGHT BE JARRING TO, TO VIEWERS, WHEREAS ONE BY ITSELF AWAY FROM EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD LOOK COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. YEAH, NO, I THINK THAT'S A, A, A VALID POINT. UM, IT MAY BE THAT THAT IMPROVES THE ODDS OF ONE ARTIST, UM, WHO'S PROPOSING SOMETHING FOR THIS ENTIRE SET OF BOXES. BUT WE'VE ALSO FOUND THAT NOT EVERY ARTIST WAS INTERESTED IN DOING FOUR BOXES. UM, I CAN SAY FOR A FACT, ONE OF THE ARTISTS I TALKED TO [00:50:01] WAS LIKE, I'LL DO ONE. AND WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ESCAPE THAT. UM, I THINK THAT'S WHY ULTIMATELY THE CITY'S THOUGHT PROCESS IS, WELL, LET'S PUT IT OUT THERE. LET'S CLARIFY THAT. UM, WE COULD GO WITH ONE FOR ONE FOR ALL OF THEM OR INDIVIDUAL BOXES. UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S DEFINITELY A CONSIDERATION TO MAKE BECAUSE YOU DO WANT SOME TYPE OF AT LEAST GENERAL THEMING AND, AND THAT PART IS SET. BUT IT'LL BE INTERESTING IF THERE'S TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ART STYLES. BUT THERE'S PLENTY OF SPACE IN LIVERMORE FOR MULTIPLE ART STYLES. AND I HOPE IT WOULD STILL WORK EVEN IN THIS LOCATION. WELL, THE, THE FACING THE SAME DIRECTION. MM-HMM . WOULD BE QUITE JARRING TO HAVE DIFFERENT ONES. I THINK IF YOU HAD A DIFFERENT ARTIST ON THE OTHER SIDE FACING THE WINE BAR MM-HMM . THAT COULD BE, I COULD SEE HOW THAT BEING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. MY DAD HAD AN RV AND HE, HE PAINTED ONE SIDE GREEN AND THE OTHER SIDE A DIFFERENT GREEN. AND I SAID, DAD, WHAT, WHAT DID HE DO? HE GOES, NOBODY SEES BOTH SIDES AT ONCE. THAT'S TRUE. SO I'M THINKING IT WOULDN'T BE A BIG PROBLEM TO HAVE ONE ARTIST ON ONE SIDE AND THEN YOU WALK AROUND AND IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LOOK. 'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA, YOU'RE NOT. BUT WHEN THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER LIKE THAT, I THINK THAT'S A IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE WHEN THEY'RE MAKING THEIR RECOMMENDATION OF THE TOP THREE OPTIONS. UM, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE CONSIDERATION OF HOW THEY FIT TOGETHER. I, I, I MEAN I DEFINITELY THINK THAT SHOULD BE A CONSIDERATION. ELAINE, YOU CAN TAKE THE, THE RV STORY OUT OF THE MINUTES. COMMISSIONER NOW KNOWS, AND I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER GUZMAN IS SAYING. UM, IT APPEARS THAT THE CRITERIA IS FOR THE SIDE FACING LA CONDA, IT NEEDS TO BE A WINE COUNTRY THEME. MM-HMM . AND FOR THE SIDE OF THE BOXES FACING THE FOUNTAIN, IT NEEDS TO BE A SCIENCE THEME. YEAH. AND I THINK THAT ULTIMATELY THE FINAL DECISION MADE BY THE CITY WILL PROBABLY FOLLOW THAT. UM, I IMAGINE THAT'S GONNA BE THE CASE NOW. COULD IT BE THERE'S THREE BOXES THAT FACE LIVERMORE AND PLAZA? COULD IT BE THAT ONE IS, YOU KNOW, IGNITION THEMED, ONE IS A, UM, YOU KNOW, ELEMENT ONE IS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ELSE RELATED TO LIVERMORE OR SCIENCE. IT'S POSSIBLE. BUT I IMAGINE THAT'S THE MOST, UH, LIKELY OUTCOME. I WILL SAY AGAIN, UM, THERE IS A DESIRE TO HAVE THE MAXIMUM FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF DETERMINING WHICH ARE THE APPROPRIATE FITS ON WHICH UTILITY BOXES. YEAH. UM, I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE CHROME. THANKS. I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE CHROME BOX. I MEAN, MAYBE THIS IS NOT THE PLACE FOR THIS DISCUSSION, BUT WHY ARE WE PAINTING A CHROME BOX AND, AND WHAT'S MORE IS, IS THAT ACTUALLY GONNA LOOK GOOD? HAVE THEY PAINTED CHROME BOXES ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY? THAT'S ANOTHER REASON TO BE SPECIFIC ABOUT, UM, THE MATERIALS THAT, UM, ARE AVAILABLE TO BE PAINTED ON, UM, THE SIZE, THE SPACE, THE LOCATION, WHAT MIGHT LOOK APPROPRIATE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THOUGHT, UM, AND I WANT TO CHOOSE MY WORDS CAREFULLY. IT'S NOT THAT ANYTHING WAS DONE WRONG, BUT I THINK IN, FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE RFP, I WANT TO KIND OF GIVE MAYBE MORE PHOTOS TO GIVE PEOPLE AN IDEA OF LIKE THE DIFFERENT ANGLES AND WHAT FACES THIS LOCATION. I'M GONNA RECOMMEND IN THE RFP THAT EVERYBODY WHO'S INTERESTED CHECK THE LOCATION. IT'S NOT GONNA BE POSSIBLE FOR EVERYONE. SO I'M ALSO GONNA INCLUDE PHOTOS. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY, UH, COMMISSIONER MILDER, THE CITY MAY FEEL THE SAME WAY YOU DO. MAYBE THEY SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, THE TWO PROJECTS ON THESE TWO AND ONE IN THE MIDDLE, THIS LOOKS FANTASTIC, BUT WE, NO PROPOSAL LOOKS APPROPRIATE FOR THE CHROME BOX. MAYBE THAT ONE LOOKS GOOD AS IS. COMMISSIONER KELLY, I WAS JUST LOOKING MAYBE JUST THE CURIOUS THAT THE BACKSIDE, THE SIDE LOOKING TO THE BAR IS ALL BLOCKED. NO ONE IS GONNA SEE IT. SO AGAIN, WITHOUT PUTTING 15 PICTURES IN THE BAGOT. SO, UH, QUICK BACKSTORY, UM, I WAS THE ONE TASKED WITH GOING OUT TO THIS LOCATION, GETTING PICTURES FROM ALL DIFFERENT ANGLES FROM THE INSIDE OF THEIR PATIO, FROM THE OUTSIDE IT WAS LITERALLY STORMING AND THIS PHOTO WAS TAKEN IN A PRETTY BAD STORM. UM, AND YOU ABSOLUTELY, EVEN IN THE RAIN, IT WAS COMING DOWN HARD. YOU ABSOLUTELY COULD MAKE OUT THE BACKSIDE OF THE FIRST BOX. WELL, THE BOX THAT'S THE FURTHEST LEFT IN GRAY AND THE BACKSIDE OF THAT MIDDLE BOX, YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY SEE IT. UM, AND AGAIN, THAT'S GONNA BE A CONSIDERATION. WE WANT TO BE, UM, CONSIDERATE OF WHAT, [00:55:01] YOU KNOW, PEOPLE IN THAT BUSINESS, UH, WILL BE SEEING. UM, THAT'S WHY EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION WITH THEM TO KIND OF GET, YOU KNOW, GATHER WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS WERE. IT'S, IT, IT'S GONNA BE, I I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE PROCESS BECAUSE I REALLY HAVE NO IDEA SITTING HERE WITH YOU ALL TODAY WHAT THE ULTIMATE OUTCOME IS GONNA BE. I THOUGHT WE WERE KIND OF ON A TRACK BEFORE, BUT NOW THAT I SEE THE, THE DESIRE OF THE CITY TO GET THIS REALLY, REALLY DONE WELL, UM, I'LL JUST BE INTERESTED JUST AS ALL OF YOU TO SEE WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING. YEAH, BECAUSE I, I'M JUST LOOKING WHETHER IF SOMEONE APPLIES, THEY MIGHT SAY, I WILL ONLY APPLY IF YOU REMOVE ALL THAT. SO IT'S CLEARLY VISIBLE. RIGHT. THAT WON'T BE AN OPTION. YEAH. WE'RE NOT IN POSITION TO, UH, DEMAND ANYTHING OF LA KANDA. LA KANDA OBVIOUSLY IN LOCAL BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, AN IMPORTANT PARTNER OF THE CITY, LIKE ALL LOCAL BUSINESSES. BUT, UM, NO INDICATION THAT THERE'S GONNA BE ANY CHANGING TO THE LANDSCAPE. I WISH I HAD MORE PHOTOS, EVEN IF I DID HAVE 'EM. THEY WEREN'T PUBLISHED, BUT YEAH. AND IF YOU WERE THERE ON A STORMY DAY, I'VE EATEN THERE QUITE OFTEN. THEY HAVE THINGS THAT COME DOWN. YEAH. AND WHEN IT'S SUNNY, THOSE ARE RAISED UP. AH, SO THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. I OFTEN, YEAH. YEAH. ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? GREAT. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ESTABLISH THIS AD HOC COMMITTEE? SO MOVED. MOVED BY COMMISSIONER DE ELLI, SECOND COMMISSIONER BABAR. ALL IN FAVOR? A AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES TO ESTABLISH THE LIVERMORE PLAZA UTILITY BOX PROJECT REVIEW AD HOC COMMITTEE. DO WE HAVE ANY VOLUNTEERS FOR OOH, COMMISSIONER NEIL ALICE. COMMISSIONER BOBAR. COMMISSIONER GOUSMAN. DO WE HAVE A CHAIR? ANOTHER RUN AT IT? ANOTHER TAKE ANOTHER CUT. A CHAIR LIKE THE CHAIR. YOU CAN, I'M . YOU SURE? OKAY. ALRIGHT. CHAIRING IT WILL BE COMMISSIONER DE ALICE. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO SELECT COMMISSIONER GMAN? COMMISSIONER BABAR AND COMMISSIONER DEON ALICE AS THE CHAIR FOR THIS AD HOC COMMITTEE. VICE CHAIR HURST. IS THERE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER KLEI. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? WONDERFUL. THE MOTION PASSES TO SELECT THESE COMMISSIONERS FOR THE AD HOC COMMITTEE. WE'LL CLOSE THIS ITEM AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT. I JUST WANNA SAY IT'S GREAT. THIS IS A LOT OF AD HOC COMMITTEES, SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE TAKING SOMETHING OR MULTIPLES ON. IT'S A, IT'S A BIG DEAL. SO THANK YOU. BETTER WINE COUNTRY THAN A BOWL OF PASTA THAN WHAT? I'M SORRY. I'M, I'M CLOUDY. I'M GONNA GO SEE THAT PLACE. AND SEED BOWL. A BOWL OF PASTA. OH, OKAY. . WONDERFUL. SO WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM SIX. [6. COMMITTEE REPORTS AND MATTERS INITIATED BY STAFF AND COMMISSIONERS] UM, COMMITTEE REPORTS AND MATTERS INITIATED BY STAFF AND COMMISSIONERS. IS THERE ANY REPORTS FROM STAFF? ANY REPORTS LANG? NO, NO REPORTS FROM STAFF. ANY REPORTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER S NOPE. SORRY. UM, I ATTENDED THE BANKHEAD CHAIRS MIXER LAST WEEK. IT'S A, AN EVENT FOR MEMBERS, A DONORS TO THE BANKHEAD. IT WAS LOVELY. UM, IF YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE BANK HEAD AND YOU'VE NEVER GONE TO ONE OF THEIR EVENTS, UH, THEY'RE, THEY, THEY DO A REALLY, REALLY NICE JOB. THERE IS, I THINK UPCOMING IN MAY, UM, THE SEASON ANNOUNCEMENT PARTY. SO THAT'S THEIR NEXT BIG THING AND, AND THEY'RE FANTASTIC. UM, I JUST WANTED TO ALSO SAY THAT THIS FRIDAY THERE IS A FILM FESTIVAL AT THE BANQUETTE. IT BENEFITS THE TRI-VALLEY CONSERVANCY AND ALL OF THE FILMS ARE NATURE BASED, I BELIEVE. AND THERE'S A Q AND A AND I, I'M NOT REALLY SURE EXACTLY WHAT'S ALL INVOLVED, BUT I'M GOING IT SOUNDS LOVELY. SO WONDERFUL. COMMISSIONER K? YEAH. QUICK QUESTION. I I MAYBE A QUESTION FOR THE STAFF. I THINK THERE WAS A EMAIL THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO FILL OUT THOSE FORM SEVEN HUNDREDS, SIR. RIGHT? WE NEED TO, I THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT. SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY BECAUSE IT DIDN'T QUITE SAY, LIKE PREVIOUSLY DEBBIE USED TO SAY, PLEASE SIGN, YOU KNOW, AND THIS ONE IT WAS CLEAR IS JUST INFORMING, OR MAYBE I WAS, I WAS TRYING TO CLARIFY THAT. SO IF YOU GOT SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE GOT AS STAFF MEMBERS, THERE'S UH, ONE EMAIL TELLING YOU WHAT'S COMING AND THEN ONE EMAIL FROM, UM, THE COMPANY THAT'S [01:00:01] ACTUALLY SAYING, HEY, COME HERE, LOG IN, PUT YOUR INFORMATION IN. UM, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THE FIRST ONE, THE ONE THAT'S TELLING YOU WHAT'S CO WHAT WAS COMING FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE. UM, IF YOU STILL NEED ANY CLARIFICATIONS, UH, LET ME KNOW AND I'LL CONNECT YOU WITH THE STAFF. UM, ALSO THAT'S ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE, BUT STAFF HAD TO DO IT AS WELL. UM, AND I'M FAIRLY CONFIDENT MINE WAS JUST AN ELECTRONIC SIGNATURE. YEAH, SO DOCUSIGN, DOCUSIGN SOME, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE WHERE IT WAS JUST LIKE, HEY, YOU'RE VERIFYING, VALIDATING. BUT, SO THERE WAS A STAFF, OH, UM, , I COULD HAVE DONE THIS AT THE END, BUT I SAID THERE WAS NO STAFF REPORT. BUT I JUST HAVE ONE, UH, QUICK ITEM AND I'M NOT GONNA SAY ANY NAMES. UM, BUT, UH, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE NAME BADGES BEFORE AND THERE ULTIMATELY WAS INTEREST IN GOING FORWARD WITH THE NAME BADGES. SO NOT DISCUSSING THE WHOLE PROCEDURE OF NAME BADGES, BUT IF YOU RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM ME, UM, IT MEANS I REACHED OUT TO YOU BECAUSE I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY HOW YOU WANTED YOUR NAME ON THE BADGES. SO, UM, PLEASE GET BACK TO ME. I'M, I'M DOWN TO ONE PERSON AND I WILL NOT SAY WHO THEY ARE, BUT THEY ARE PRESENT. , YOU SHOULD SAY WHO THEY ARE. YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD NEVER DO THAT TO BOB. NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF A MEETING. WHAT DID? NO, I I JUST, OF COURSE. UM, THE MAIN POINT OF THAT IS TO TELL YOU THAT THAT IS GOING FORWARD. UH, THAT'S NOT AGAIN, AN ITEM FOR DISCUSSION, BUT AS SOON AS I HAVE THE LAST NAME, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. MARK, MY BAD. ROBERT. BOB, WE DIDN'T WANNA MAKE AN AN ASSUMPTION. SO COMMISSIONER GMAN, SOON AS YOU GIVE ME THE WORD, I'LL BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD. WONDERFUL. . UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO, UH, BRING UP THE, UH, WHERE WE ARE WITH THE AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR AN ARTS LAUREATE, UM, POSITION. UM, WE HAD A MEETING. IT'S BEEN VERY BUSY. I I DIDN'T QUITE GET BACK TO FINISHING IT OFF, BUT THE, THE GENERAL, UH, GIST OF IT WAS, UM, TO HAVE MAYBE A SHORT TERM TRIAL ARTS COMMISSION POSITION THAT PARTNERS WITH THE POET LAUREATE FOR MAYBE A MONTH, JUST TO GET A FEEL OF WHAT IT'S LIKE TO INCLUDE OTHER ARTS FORM IN THIS POSITION WITHOUT USURPING THE POET LAUREATE. UM, AND SO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE WAS, UH, WANTING TO ASK THE WHOLE COMMISSION IF THEY THINK THIS IS WORTH PUR PURSUING. DID I? SO IF THERE'S COLLECTIVE SUPPORT FOR CONTINUING THAT CONVERSATION, UM, WE CAN AGENDIZE THAT FOR A FUTURE MEETING AND GO FORWARD FROM THERE. YES. AND ONE OF THE, JUST TO CLARIFY AS WELL, ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAD WAS WOULD THIS REPLACE OUR CURRENT POET LAUREATE OR WOULD THIS BE AN ADDITIONAL POSITION ROLE THAT WE WOULD SEE AS AN ARTS LAUREATE OR ARTIST LAUREATE? AND WE WOULD, WE HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF REPLACING THE POET LAUREATE, SO WE WANTED TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR. YEAH. UH, AGAIN, IF THERE'S COLLECTIVE, UM, JUST WILL TO BRING IT BACK MM-HMM . THEN WE ARE HAPPY TO AGENDIZE IT AND MOVE THAT CONVERSATION FORWARD. NEXT STEPS WITH OUR AD HOC COMMITTEE. I BELIEVE WE'RE RESEARCHING WHAT A LOT OF THE OTHER SMALL CITIES OF OUR SIZE ARE DOING WITH THAT ROLE AND SEEING HOW THAT COULD PLAY INTO OUR FUTURE. ANY OPPOSITION, , EVEN THE NODDING AHEAD IS SUFFICIENT TO BRING IT BACK. WE SUPPORT. FANTASTIC. WE'LL KEEP ROLLING THEN ON THAT. ANYTHING ELSE? ANYONE GO ANYWHERE? DO ANYTHING, HAVE FUN? ANYONE LOOKING FORWARD TO ANY ART TENT COMING UP ST. PATRICK'S DAY? WELL, THERE'S, YEAH, NOT REALLY. YEAH, SURE. YEAH. MUSIC. YES, OF COURSE. MM-HMM . COMMISSIONER DAY. ALICE AS A VERY, VERY LATE ADOPTER OF GLEE, MY GRANDCHILDREN GOT ME INTO IT. I WILL SAY THAT I BELIEVE IS, UH, MR. SHOE. MATTHEW MORRISON, I BELIEVE IS THE ACTOR'S NAME WILL BE AT THE BANK HEAD TOWARDS THE END OF MARCH. YES. AND THERE IS A LOT OF TICKETS AVAILABLE. I AM SUPER SURPRISED. UM, SO JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. , MR. MILDER. YEAH. THAT, THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE A GREAT SHOW. . HE'S FA HE'S FABULOUS AND UH, AND THIS WEEKEND BEGINS, UM, LIVERMORE VALLEY OPERA. MM-HMM . YES. TUI ALL, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, DISCUSSIONS. IF ALL COMMISSION BUSINESS IS COMPLETE, WE CAN ADJOURN THE MEETING. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.