* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. ALL RIGHT. ARE WE READY? [00:00:01] ALRIGHT, WELL, GREAT. [1. CALL TO ORDER] UM, OKAY, WELL WELCOME EVERYBODY TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION FOR DECEMBER 4TH, OR YES, DECEMBER 4TH, 2025. UH, FIRST, UH, ORDER OF BUSINESSES ROLL CALL. SO, LET'S SEE. I THINK YOU GUYS DO THAT, RIGHT? YES. OKAY, GREAT. YES. OKAY. COMMISSIONER CAULFIELD PRESENT. COMMISSIONER CURTIS PRESENT. COMMISSIONER NADI, PRESENT CHAIRPERSON PAN HERE. COMMISSIONER HANNON IS ABSENT. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. SO IF YOU CAN ALL STAND AND FACE THE FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS? ONE NATION, NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE. ALL. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU EVERYONE. UH, NEXT ITEM UP HERE IS OUR OPEN FORUM, AND DURING THE OPEN FORUM, WE INVITE THE PUBLIC TO, UH, SUBMIT A SPEAKER CARD TO SPEAK. AND, UM, UH, YOU HAVE A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER PERSON. AND LET'S SEE, THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT ALL WE NEED. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR TONIGHT? WHAT I HEAR? WE DO NOT. OKAY. SO WE'RE GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC FORM AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT [3. CONSENT CALENDAR] ITEM, WHICH IS OUR CONSENT CALENDAR. SO ITEM 3.1 IS THE APPROVAL OF THE OCTOBER 2ND, 2025 HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION DRAFT MEETING MINUTES. AND, UH, JUST REMIND OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS, UM, UH, CAULFIELD AND CURTIS THAT YOU GUYS WILL BE JUST, UH, ABSTAINING FOR VOTING FOR APPROVAL FOR THAT. AND, UM, SINCE THERE IS ONLY TWO OF THE THREE OF US HERE, WOULD THAT BE ENOUGH TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES OR DO WE HAVE TO DELAY THAT TO A FUTURE MEETING WHEN ALL THREE OF US THAT WERE PRESENT FOR THAT MEETING CAN VOTE? IT'S A QUORUM. IT'S QUORUM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, SO THEN WITH THAT, UH, FIRST I WANT TO ASK IF THERE WERE ANY COMMENTS ON THE DRAFT, UH, MEETING MINUTES THAT ANYBODY WOULD, THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE NO, GO AHEAD. NO, NO OTHER COMMENTS. OKAY. SO THEN IN THAT CASE, UM, CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES FOR OCTOBER 2ND? YES. AND I'LL, OKAY. SO I HAVE A MOTION BY, UH, COMMISSIONER NABA NADI, AND I WILL SECOND THAT. UM, AND SO THEN I'LL ASK FOR A, A VOTE. OKAY. COMMISSIONER NADI? YES. COMMISSIONER PAN APPROVED. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, OUR, UH, COMMISSIONERS, UH, COFIELD AND CURTIS WILL BE ABSTAINING FROM VOTING SINCE THEY WERE NOT PRESENT FOR THAT MEETING. OKAY. SO NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS OUR, UH, ITEM NUMBER FOUR PROJECT REVIEW IN WHICH WE HAVE NONE. ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, IN WHICH WE HAVE NONE AS WELL. UM, THAT'S RIGHT. WE DIDN'T HAVE AN OPEN FORUM. SO, UM, NOTHING TO OPEN FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS. SO THE NEXT ITEM UP WOULD BE [6. MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION] ITEM NUMBER SIX, MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION, UH, OF WHICH 6.1 IS OUR CITY HISTORIAN REVIEW INTERVIEW. AND BEFORE WE GET TO THAT, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO OPEN THAT UP TO THE PUBLIC FOR ANY COMMENT PRIOR TO DOING THE INTERVIEW. IF ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM FIRST. AND IF YOU WOULD, I ASSUME YOU CAN GO UP TO THE MICROPHONE OVER HERE. OKAY. COMMISSIONERS. UH, MY NAME IS RICHARD FINN. I WAS A, UH, PAST, UH, CITY HISTORIAN, IN FACT, THE LONGEST SERVING, UH, CITY HISTORIAN. YOU'VE ALL READ, UH, WHAT JEFF'S BACKGROUND IS, SO I WON'T GO INTO THAT, BUT I WILL SAY THAT, UH, HE HAS ABSOLUTELY MY FULL SUPPORT AND I THINK YOU'D MAKE A TREMENDOUS CITY HISTORIAN. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR SAYING, WHOOPS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THERE IT GOES. I DON'T KNOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SPEAKING ON THIS ITEM. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. IT STILL WORKS. YEAH. OKAY. IS IT ON? MM-HMM . YEP. OKAY. UM, OKAY. SO WITH THAT, I WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AND, UH, BRING IT BACK UP HERE. AND LET'S SEE. UH, LET'S SEE. I GUESS WE THEN COMMENCE WITH THE INTERVIEW. [00:05:01] IS THAT THE, WOULD BE THE INTRODUCTORY REMARKS. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH THE STAFF REPORT. I FORGOT IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE HAD TO DO SO. FOR A LITTLE BACKGROUND, THE CITY COUNCIL CREATED THE CITY HISTORIAN POSITION IN 2005 TO INCREASE THE PUBLIC'S AWARENESS OF LIVERMORE HISTORY. AND THE POSITION IS APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL FOR A TWO YEAR TERM AFTER THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MAKES A RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'LL BE DOING TONIGHT. THE POSITION IS CURRENTLY VACANT AND THE PRIOR HISTORIAN'S TERM WILL EXPIRE FEBRUARY 1ST, 2026. THE SELECTED HISTORIAN WILL SERVE ANY PORTION OF THE CURRENT TERM REMAINING IN ADDITION TO A TWO YEAR TERM, WHICH WILL END ON FEBRUARY 1ST, 2028. THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE HELD A RECRUITMENT PERIOD FOR THE NEW CITY HISTORIAN THAT CLOSED ON NOVEMBER 14TH OF THIS YEAR, AND STAFF RECEIVED ONE ELIGIBLE APPLICATION. GIVEN THAT THERE IS ONE OPENING FOR THE POSITION, THE COMMISSION AND ITS INDEPENDENT JUDGMENT WILL SELECT AND RECOMMEND ONE CANDIDATE FOR THE COUNCIL TO APPOINT AS THE NEXT CITY HISTORIAN. TONIGHT, AFTER INVITING THE CANDIDATE TO INTRODUCE THEMSELF, THE COMMISSION WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK INTERVIEW QUESTIONS. OKAY. ALRIGHT. GREAT. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE OUR, UH, CANDIDATE, UH, MR. CASKEY UP TO THE LECTERN TO GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE HIMSELF, AND THEN WE'LL PROCEED WITH QUESTIONS. GOOD MORNING, UH, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF. UM, I'M DELIGHTED AND HONORED TO BE HERE. UM, YOU HAVE MY, UH, FULL RESUME THERE IN FRONT OF YOU, UH, SO I WON'T MAKE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS HERE AT THE MOMENT, BUT I'D BE VERY HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. ALRIGHT. UM, OKAY. WELL, UH, WE DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND YEAH, I, SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND, UM, I'VE GOT, UH, SEVERAL QUESTIONS HERE. SO I'M GONNA PASS THESE AROUND TO THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE, UM, COMMISSION TO GO AHEAD AND, UM, ASK, I, I KNOW I COULD SPEAK LOUD, BUT I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO RECORD THIS, AND IT, IT HELPS WHEN THIS, UH, WHEN WE CAN HEAR THAT. SO, UH, WITH THAT, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND TURN TO MY LEFT HERE AND GO AHEAD AND ASK YOU TO GO AHEAD AND FIX THE FIRST QUESTION. THERE'S FOUR OF US, SO WE EACH GET TO ASK A QUESTION. WOULD YOU PLEASE DESCRIBE YOUR QUALIFICATIONS FOR BEING A HISTORIAN OF THIS CITY? SURE. THANK YOU. UM, I THINK QUALIFICATIONS ARE AN INTERESTING, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION BECAUSE THE, UH, THE CITY HISTORIAN ROLE IS A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT EACH CITY HISTORIAN MAKES OF IT. UM, YOU'VE HAD, UH, A STRING OF JUST AMAZING PEOPLE FULFILLING THIS ROLE, AND EACH ONE HAS HAD A LITTLE DIFFERENT SET OF PRIORITIES, LITTLE DIFFERENT SET OF ACTIVITIES. UM, BUT I BELIEVE MY QUALIFICATIONS ARE, UM, A GOOD FAMILIARITY WITH THE HISTORY OF LIVERMORE, BUT ALSO WITH THE PROGRAMS THAT BRING THAT HISTORY TO ITS RESIDENTS, TO ITS VISITORS. AND MY PARTICULAR PASSION, BRINGING IT TO THE STUDENTS OF OUR TOWN. UM, AS YOU SEE IN MY RESUME, UM, I'VE SPENT A NUMBER OF YEARS DOING THE, UH, THE, UH, LIVERMORE HERITAGE GUILDS HISTORY MOBILE, WHERE WE TAKE ESSENTIALLY A ROLLING MUSEUM TO EACH OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, UM, AND PRESENT TO THEIR THIRD GRADES AND SPEND, UM, YOU KNOW, HALF A DAY GOING THROUGH EACH SCHOOL'S, UH, UM, CLASSROOMS, UM, GIVING THEM, UH, A RATHER BROAD BRUSH, BUT, UM, AN HOPEFULLY INTERESTING TASTE OF THE HISTORY OF LIVERMORE. AND, UM, I THINK THAT'S, FOR ME, THAT'S THE PART THAT'S MOST REWARDING. UM, I LIKE THEM WALKING AWAY KNOWING THAT THEIR CITY HAS A STORY OR HAS MANY STORIES. UM, SO MY QUALIFICATIONS ARE SOME KNOWLEDGE, UH, OF THE ACTUAL MATERIAL. UM, I'M NOT SHY ABOUT STANDING UP AND CHATTING AND, UH, HAPPY TO DO THAT IN FRONT OF ANY OF ANY AUDIENCE WHO'S INTERESTED OR WILL AT LEAST LISTEN TO LIVERMORE HISTORY, UM, AND A PARTICULAR PASSION FOR VARIOUS ASPECTS OF THE ROLE. GREAT. THANK YOU. UM, ALRIGHT. SO I'LL TURN TO MY RIGHT THIS TIME AND PASS THE QUESTIONS DOWN TO, UH, COMMISSIONER CAULFIELD AND THEN COMMISSIONER CURTIS. UH, GO AHEAD [00:10:01] AND TAKE 'EM IN ORDER IF YOU'D LIKE, OR PICK ONE OF THE TWO, ONE OF THE OTHERS. GO AHEAD AND ASK. UH, WHAT IS YOUR EXPERIENCE RESEARCHING, VERIFYING, PRESERVING, WRITING ABOUT, AND OR ORGANIZING HISTORIC INFORMATION RESOURCES? UM, IT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. UM, THE LIVERMORE HERITAGE GUILD, UH, LIVERMORE'S HISTORICAL SOCIETY, WHICH I'M A MEMBER, HAS A PRETTY DARN GOOD, UM, HISTORIC ARCHIVE. AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT WE LIKE TO GET ALL OF OUR ANSWERS BY TYPING THEM INTO GOOGLE. UM, TURNS OUT THAT GOOGLE HASN'T YET GOTTEN ACCESS TO ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE THAT ALLOW US TO TALK ABOUT LIVERMORE'S HISTORY. SO, UM, SO PEOPLE STILL COME TO US AND WANT TO KNOW, UH, THINGS ABOUT THEIR HOUSE, THINGS ABOUT THEIR FAMILY, THINGS ABOUT SOME STORY THAT THEY'VE HEARD. AND, UM, SO WE HAVE RESOURCES THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH RUNNING THROUGH EVERYTHING FROM, UH, THE ARCHIVE OF AND THE INDEX TO A HUNDRED YEARS OF LIVERMORE'S HISTORIC NEWSPAPERS, UH, WHICH IS BY THE WAY, A A CONTRIBUTION OF ANOTHER PERSON WHO WAS NOT THE CITY HISTORIAN, BUT CERTAINLY FULFILLED THAT ROLE OF BARBARA SHAW, WHO PERSONALLY MANUALLY INDEXED A HUNDRED YEARS OF LIVERMORE'S CITY NEWSPAPERS. UM, SO, BUT WE HAVE THOSE RESOURCES. WE HAVE THE TAX LOGS, WE HAVE THE HISTORIC MAPS, UH, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PIECES THAT WE CAN HELP PULL TOGETHER TO VERIFY THE RUMORS, UM, BUILD UP THE STORIES AND TRY TO TRY TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE ACCURATE STORY OF THE HISTORY OF THEIR TOWN OR OF THEIR FAMILY, OR OF THEIR PROPERTY. UM, WE'VE SOMETIMES DONE THIS IN THE SERVICE OF THE CITY WHEN SOMEONE COMES IN TO HAVE SOME, UH, DO SOME WORK ON THEIR HISTORIC HOUSE, AND THEY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, WHAT IS HISTORICALLY, UH, EITHER SIGNIFICANT OR IMPORTANT ABOUT, UH, ABOUT THEIR PROPERTY. AND WE'VE, UM, DONE THAT RESEARCH. SO, UM, I'M FAMILIAR WITH DOING THAT WORK. I THINK THE THING THAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THE WORK THAT WE DO, UM, IN, IN MANY LINES OF WORK, WHEN YOU GO TO DO RESEARCH, YOU DO IT ON A TOPIC THAT YOU'RE ALREADY SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR WITH, WHETHER YOU'RE AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER OR A WHATEVER ELSE IT IS THAT YOU'VE, YOU'VE BEEN TRAINED IN SOME TOPIC AND, AND YOU GO AND YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION. UM, SOMETIMES IN, IN LOCAL HISTORY, SOMEONE ASKS YOU A QUESTION ABOUT WHICH YOU HAVE NO, NO PRIOR KNOWLEDGE, AND IT'S YOUR JOB THEN TO GO TO THOSE RESOURCES AND FIND WHAT YOU CAN, UM, AND, AND DIG UP THE PEOPLE WHO MIGHT HELP YOU OR THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE. UM, I WILL, I'M JUST DYING TO GIVE YOU MY ONE SMALL, VERY RECENT EXAMPLE. I WAS ASKED TO WRITE A CHAPTER, UH, ON LIVERMORE'S WINE HISTORY, UM, BY A GENTLEMAN WHO'S WORKING ON A BOOK, IT'S NOT YET OUT, UM, BUT WORKING ON A, UM, MOSTLY A PICTURE BOOK OF LIVERMORE WINERIES AND VINEYARDS. BUT THEY ASKED FOR A CHAPTER ON HISTORY, AND I CERTAINLY KNEW SOME OF THAT, AND I DUG UP SOME OF THAT. BUT ALSO, UM, YOUR FIRST CITY HISTORIAN, UH, GARY DRUMMOND, HAD DONE A VERY EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF RESEARCH ON THAT. AND SO I WAS ABLE TO TAP INTO A LOT OF WORK THAT HE HAD DONE, BUT THERE WERE STILL PIECES OF THE STORY THAT I WASN'T ABLE TO FIND THROUGH THAT. AND, UM, SO HAD TO GO AROUND KNOCKING ON THE DOORS OF OUR LOCAL WINEMAKERS AND FIND OUT WHAT THEY KNEW. UM, SO IT'S LIKE ANY RESEARCH PROJECT IN ANY TOPIC, IT'S A MATTER OF KNOWING YOUR, UH, RESOURCES AND, UH, TRYING TO PULL TOGETHER A STORY BASED ON THAT. I HAVE MY OWN QUESTION, IF THAT'S OKAY. YEAH. SO IT'S APPARENT THAT YOU HAVE THE HISTORY DOWN PRETTY WELL. YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE BEING SUPPORTED AND THINGS LIKE THAT. DO YOU FEEL LIKE, UH, THIS POSITION THAT YOU'RE GONNA KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS? OR DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING NEW THAT YOU WANNA BRING THAT YOU'RE EXCITED TO DO? I THINK THAT EACH CITY HISTORIAN HAS HAD A UNIQUE VISION FOR THE ROLE. UH, GARY DRUMMOND CAME IN AND INTRODUCED THE, UH, DOWNTOWN HISTORIC WALKING TOURS, WHICH WE NOW CALL THE GARY DRUMMOND HISTORIC WALKING TOURS. UM, HE ALSO TAUGHT CLASSES IN LIVERMORE HISTORY, AND HE DID A BUNCH OF OTHER WORK, BUT, YOU KNOW, UH, THE, THE DOWNTOWN WALKING TOURS WERE SOMETHING THAT SORT OF WERE, UH, HIS BRAND. UM, ANNE HOLMAN, WHO WAS OUR, OUR NEXT CITY HISTORIAN, UM, SHE ALSO WAS INVOLVED IN THOSE THINGS. BUT, UM, SHE HAD BEEN A, A WRITER OF LOCAL HISTORY, AND SHE PUT TOGETHER WHAT IS STILL OUR CANONICAL REFERENCE ON LIVERMORE. IT'S CALLED LIVERMORE A TO Z. UM, IT'S ESSENTIALLY AN ENCYCLOPEDIA ABOUT ALL THE HISTORIC ELEMENTS OF LIVERMORE. SO, UM, AND, AND, AND THE STORY GOES ON, AND I COULD TALK ABOUT, UM, RICHARD FINN WHOSE, UH, WHOSE BACKGROUND IN GENEALOGY [00:15:01] BROUGHT US, UM, A WHOLE BUNCH OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE LIVERMORE'S, UM, UH, LIVERMORE'S FOUNDING FAMILIES AND, AND HOW WE CAN INTEGRATE THAT INTO THE STORY OF, UH, LIVERMORE AND THE STORIES THAT WE CAN BRING TO THE RESIDENTS. UM, SO I, I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD SAY I'M GOING TO CHANGE IT OR I WILL CONTINUE TO DO WHAT THE HISTORIANS DO, WHICH, UH, THE CITY HISTORIANS HAVE DONE, WHICH IS TO CHANGE THE ROLE EACH TIME. AND I THINK THAT IN PARTICULAR, AS I I MENTIONED BEFORE, I'M INTERESTED IN BRINGING THE STORY TO, UM, TO THE STUDENTS, TO THE YOUNG, UM, UH, GIVING THEM EXPERIENCES. UH, AND AS YOU MAY HAVE HEARD, OR IF YOU HAVEN'T, YOU WILL SOON. UH, WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD TO BRING A HISTORIC ONE ROOM SCHOOLHOUSE INTO THE CITY OF LIVERMORE AND RESTORE IT HERE. UM, WHICH WILL GIVE US A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND OUR ABILITY TO TELL THOSE STORIES AND GIVE THE KIDS THAT EXPERIENCE, AND BY THE WAY, THEIR PARENTS AS WELL, WHO, UH, WHO LEARN ABOUT THIS AS WELL. SO, UM, I THINK MY FOCUS THAT IS MAYBE UNIQUE WILL BE, UM, TO FOCUS MORE ON, UH, THE KIDS AND, UH, AND IN PARTICULAR MIDWAY SCHOOL AND THAT PROJECT, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME REALLY CONTINUING THE KIND OF RESEARCH, THE PUBLIC OUTREACH, UM, THAT, THAT EACH CITY HISTORIAN HAS DONE. I THINK EACH ONE HAS GOTTEN UP AND TALKED IN FRONT OF AS MANY GROUPS AS THEY COULD FIND AND SHARED, UH, INTERESTING STORIES OF LIVERMORE HISTORY. AND I CERTAINLY INTEND TO CONTINUE DOING THAT AS WELL. IT LOOKS LIKE, IN FACT, I THINK I'M SCHEDULED FOR A HISTORY TALK IN JANUARY AT THE LIBRARY. UM, UH, I GUESS I BETTER FIGURE OUT WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY, BUT, UH, THAT IS, UM, SO THOSE SORTS OF THINGS I FULLY EXPECT TO CONTINUE. GREAT. UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, ONE LAST QUESTION THEN WOULD BE, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD OR EXPAND UPON FOR THESE QUESTIONS? UM, ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE DIDN'T ASK YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? YEAH, , UM, I THINK I, I, I WANT TO SAY THAT THIS IS A ROLE, UM, WHERE I'M HONORED TO BE ABLE TO STAND ON THE SHOULDERS OF SOME AMAZING PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE THIS ROLE BEFORE. I THINK THAT THE CITY HISTORIAN ROLE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN SIMPLY ANOTHER PERSON INTERESTED IN LOCAL HISTORY. BUT IT IS, UM, A ROLE THAT BRINGS AN INTEREST IN HISTORY AND BRINGS AN INTEREST IN OUR LOCAL STORIES TO THE PEOPLE WHO, THIS MAY NOT BE THEIR PASSION. THIS MAY NOT BE SOMETHING THAT'S, UM, TOP OF THEIR LIST, BUT THEY'RE WILLING TO LISTEN TO A STORY. THEY'RE WILLING TO LEARN A BIT ABOUT THEIR TOWN. AND I, I THINK THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT SOMETHING, IT'S JUST A SOMETHING UNTIL WE KNOW THAT IT'S GOT A STORY BEHIND IT. AND WHEN I, WHEN I TALK TO THE, THE THIRD GRADERS, I, I BRING THEM A BRICK, CAN I SHOW THEM THAT I BROUGHT THEM A BRICK? AND THEY, I LOOK NOT VERY EXCITED. AND I TELL THEM THOUGH, THAT THIS BRICK THAT I'VE BROUGHT THEM ACTUALLY IS A BRICK THAT WAS PULLED OUT OF A, A BUILDING THAT WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT IN 1874. THIS IS A HISTORIC BRICK. THIS BRICK WAS RIGHT HERE IN LIVERMORE, AND I CAN PROVE THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY MADE RIGHT HERE IN LIVERMORE. AND I TURN IT AROUND AND IT ACTUALLY HAS LIVERMORE STAMPED INTO THE BRICK. AND THIS BRICK THAT I'M HOLDING WAS MADE IN 1874 TO HOLD UP THE, UH, THE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH AND CAME OUTTA THE FOUNDATION OF THAT BUILDING. AND NOW THE KIDS WANNA COME UP AND SEE MY BRICK. YEAH. AND THE ONLY THING THAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT MY BRICK, IT'S STILL DIRTY. IT'S STILL OLD, BUT NOW IT HAS A STORY. AND MY GOAL IS TO BRING STORIES TO THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE SEE AROUND THEM SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE FOUNDATION OF THEIR TOWN AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THEIR TOWN AND, UM, WHAT THEY CAN DO TO CARRY IT FORWARD. MAY I ASK A QUESTION? YEAH. UH, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. I, I REALLY LOVE THE, THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING TO THE CHILDREN AND GETTING THEM EXCITED ABOUT THEIR OWN CITY. HOW ABOUT THE ADULTS? ? HOW ABOUT ? HOW ABOUT THE ADULT? YES. SO, UH, , WE, WE, WE BRING THE HI, THE HISTORY MOBILE TO SOME ADULT EVENTS AS WELL. IT'S AT THE RAVENSWOOD AND IT'S AT THE HAGERMAN RANCH AND IT'S OTHER PLACES. AND WHAT I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE AS THEY'RE COMING IN, TELL THE ADULTS AS THEY'RE COMING IN, IS THAT WE'VE PUT THIS MUSEUM TOGETHER FOR THE THIRD GRADERS, AND I'M STANDING TALKING TO A BUNCH OF ADULTS. AND I SAY, BUT WE FIND THAT THIRD GRADE HISTORY IS JUST ABOUT RIGHT FOR ADULTS. YEAH. . AND, UM, IT, IT, UH, SO IT TURNS OUT THAT THE WAY WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER A WELL-TOLD STORY WORKS VERY WELL FOR ADULTS. AND SO THE OUTREACH TO ADULTS IS IMPORTANT. IN FACT, THE, THIS, THE, [00:20:01] UM, THEN AND NOW SERIES OF TALKS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AT THE LIBRARY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW IS GENERALLY AIMED AT ADULTS WHO ARE CURIOUS ABOUT SOMETHING. AND THEY COME OUT FOR A TALK ABOUT DEL VAL RESERVOIR, AND THEN THEY COME OUT FOR A TALK ABOUT, UH, A SCHOOLHOUSE. UM, SO, UH, SO THOSE ARE FOLKS WHO ARE CURIOUS. WE ALSO, OF COURSE, OPERATE THE, UH, THE MUSEUM DOWNTOWN. AND WHEN PEOPLE ARE DOWNTOWN AT THE, UH, UM, CARNEGIE PARK FOR, UM, UH, THE FARMER'S MARKET, SOMETIMES THEY'LL JUST WANDER IN AND WE GET A CHANCE TO BRING THEM A PIECE OF THEIR, THEIR HISTORY. ANOTHER PIECE OF THAT THOUGH, IS AS YOU WANDER AROUND TOWN, UM, AND YOU'RE STANDING IN FRONT OF TIPS AND TOES NAIL SALON, IF YOU LOOK DOWN, YOU'LL SEE IT. THERE'S A PLAQUE THERE THAT TELLS YOU THAT THAT WAS ACTUALLY LIVERMORE'S FIRST LIBRARY, NOT THE CARNEGIE BUILDING. AND SO WE TRY TO REACH ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS AND ALL OF OUR VISITORS BY HONESTLY NOT LETTING THEM GET VERY FAR AWAY FROM STORIES OF THE HISTORY, UM, AND GIVING THEM A PIECE HERE AND A PIECE THERE. UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I THINK THAT PRESERVATION IN GENERAL IS VERY IMPORTANT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR HISTORIC DOWNTOWN. UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE A RESTAURANT IN ANY BUILDING. WHAT MAKES THIS INTERESTING? WELL, THIS IS IN A, A HISTORIC BUILDING. UM, YOU KNOW, YOU WALK INTO, UH, THE, THE TOY STOCK, THE TOY STORE ON, UM, ON FIRST STREET. AND IT'S KIND OF COOL THAT IT'S IN ONE OF THE OLDEST BUILDINGS IN TOWN. IT'S IN THE, UM, 1873. ANYWAY, ODDFELLOWS BUILDING SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UM, UH, A VERY EARLY, UH, UH, BUILDING IN LIVERMORE. AND IT, AND THERE'S A PLAQUE THAT LETS YOU KNOW THAT. AND SO AGAIN, WE GET TO SHARE A PIECE OF HISTORY. SO, UM, WE, WE WORK HARD TO, TO REACH THE ADULTS. UM, THE, UH, UH, WE, WE TRY TO REACH OUT THROUGH THE TOURIST BUREAUS AS WELL. WE HAVE TRI-VALLEY, UM, UH, VISIT TRI-VALLEY IS A SUPPORTER OF, FOR INSTANCE, OF THE MIDWAY PROJECT AND OTHER THINGS. UM, SO MY EMPHASIS ON THE KIDS IS, IS NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF THE ADULTS, BUT MAYBE, UM, TO BRING A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THE, TO THE KIDS PROGRAMS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. THAT'S GREAT. OKAY. UM, TO BRING IT BACK UP HERE, IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO ASK? NO, I'VE SEEN, UH, NO OTHER QUESTIONS. UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'LL BRING IT BACK UP HERE FOR DISCUSSION AND NOMINATION. I, I APPRECIATE THE, THE OPPORTUNITY. I WANT TO, OF COURSE, INVITE ANYONE WHO ISN'T TO BECOME A MEMBER OF THE LIVERMORE HERITAGE GUILD, UH, AND, UH, AND GET INVOLVED IN THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UM, SO, UH, BRINGING IT BACK UP HERE, ANY COMMENTS, UM, OR THOUGHTS? UH, COMMISSIONER CURTIS? NO. OKAY. COMMISSIONER CAULFIELD? NO. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER NABI NADI. YEAH. AH, IT'S OKAY. YOU ALMOST GOT IT. . ALMOST GET IT. I WILL GET IT EVENTUALLY. YES. NO, I, I THINK I'M VERY IMPRESSED BY OUR CANDIDATE. OKAY. UM, I'D LIKE TO SAY A FEW ITEMS, UH, ABOUT OUR CANDIDATE TONIGHT. I'VE PERSONALLY KNOWN JEFF FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW, AND WHAT I WAS MOST IMPRESSED WITH, UH, WITH HIS APPLICATION, A FEW THINGS, IS HIS INVOLVEMENT, UH, WITH THE, UM, HERITAGE GUILD FOR ALL THE YEARS THAT HE'S BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT AND EVERYTHING THAT THE HERITAGE GUILD AS PROVIDED TO THE CITY AS IT BEING A RESOURCE. AND ALSO TO PROVIDING THE DIFFERENT TALKS THAT THEY HAVE DONE OVER THE YEARS. THEY'VE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE, UH, TI GARAGE AND THE HAGERMAN RANCH AND SUPPORTING THAT. AND, UM, I KNOW THEY HAVE EVENTS AT HAGERMAN EVERY MONTH, I BELIEVE. SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE, AND THAT IS FOR KIDS AND ALSO, UH, ADULTS TO GO OUT THERE AND LEARN THAT, THAT HISTORY. AND THEY HAVE DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS. AND I KNOW JEFF HAS BEEN INTEGRAL IN, UM, DEVELOPING THOSE PROGRAMS AND RUNNING THEM EACH MONTH. UM, ALSO TO HIS RESEARCH ABILITY, WHICH HE DID MENTION, UM, GIVING THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC TOUR, WHICH I KNOW THAT, UH, THE GUILD ALSO WORKS CLOSELY WITH THE DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATIONS AND THE CHAMBER ON GIVING TALKS TO NEW MEMBERS OF EACH OF THOSE GROUPS TO PROVIDE NEW MEMBERS WITH SOME HISTORY. UM, I KNOW THAT THEY DO DO A WALK OF DOWNTOWN TO, FOR THEIR BOARD MEMBERS, OF WHICH I WAS ONCE A MEMBER OF. SO THAT'S WHY I KNOW ABOUT THAT ONE. AND I KNOW JEFF'S, UH, BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT AS WELL. SO, UM, AND THEN, LET'S SEE. I WAS GONNA MENTION, [00:25:01] UM, THE OTHER THING TOO IS I KNOW FROM, UH, PAST EXPERIENCE IN JEFF'S INVOLVEMENT, UH, WITH THE CITY, I BELIEVE IS ALSO IMPORTANT. 'CAUSE I THINK, UH, THERE'S DEFINITELY BEEN SOME OF OUR, UH, CITY HISTORIANS THAT HAVE BEEN ON COMMISSIONS AND DIFFERENT, UH, PANELS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT IS AS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CITY, BUT OVER JEFF'S CAREER, UM, THAT I'VE KNOWN HIM OVER THE PAST ALMOST 20 YEARS NOW. UM, HE SERVED ON THIS BOARD, THIS COMMISSION. UM, HE'S ALSO BEEN ON, UM, PLANNING AS WELL, RIGHT? NO, SORRY, YOUR WIFE. YES. SORRY. UM, THOUGHT YOU WERE ON PLANNING, BUT, BUT I MEAN, THE, MY POINT IS BEING, BEING THAT, UH, NOT ONLY, UH, HAS JEFF BEEN DOING ALL OF THESE THINGS OUTSIDE OF, UH, THE CITY, BUT HE'S ALSO BEEN INVOLVED WITH DIFFERENT, UH, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. UM, AND WHAT I WAS THINKING OF JEFF WAS THE, UH, DOWNTOWN ADVISORY BOARD, I BELIEVE AT ONE POINT AS WELL. THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING OF. UM, AND SO WHAT I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD IS THAT I HOPE THAT IN ADDITION TO THE DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS THAT THE CITY HISTORIAN WILL BE PROVIDING, UH, THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT, UM, BUT I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE YOU TO ENGAGE AND, AND ENCOURAGE STAFF TO ENGAGE WITH OUR CITY HISTORIAN FOR SOME OF OUR PROJECTS THAT COME FORWARD FROM A PLANNING, UH, PERSPECTIVE. BECAUSE OFTENTIMES PEOPLE THAT MAYBE HAVE ONLY LIVED HERE FOR 10 OR 15 OR EVEN 20 OR 25 YEARS, UH, THEY ONLY KNOW THAT PART OF THE HISTORY. UM, WE SEE THIS A LOT WITH OUR DOWNTOWN. THEY THINK IT'S ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THAT. AND IF YOU'VE LIVED IN THIS TOWN MORE THAN 25 YEARS, YOU UNDERSTAND THAT FIRST STREET ONCE USED TO BE A FOUR LANE HIGHWAY, AND WE USED TO HAVE GRAVEL TRUCKS BARRELING UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD EVERY DAY, MULTIPLE TIMES. SO, UH, PEOPLE THINK THAT, OH, WELL, THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, JEFF IS, UH, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN LIVED HERE FOR OVER 40 YEARS AND HAS HAD ALL THESE DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES AND KNOWS A LOT OF THE PEOPLE, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY, UH, PREVIOUS HISTORIANS. AND SO I'D ENCOURAGE OUR STAFF TO KEEP REACHING OUT TO OUR CITY HISTORIAN TO PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND. SOMETIMES WHEN WE GET PLANNING COMMISSION PROJECTS OR PROJECTS THAT COME BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL TO HELP, HELP PROVIDE THE THO THE, THOSE COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, MAY NOT THAT, THAT PEOPLE MAY NOT BE AWARE OF, THAT MAYBE HAVE ONLY LIVED HERE 10 OR 15 OR 20 YEARS. OKAY. SO, UH, I THINK THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT FUNCTION THAT I THINK THE CITY IS TORIAN CAN REALLY BE HELPFUL FOR, UH, IN PREPARING STAFF REPORTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND REALLY PROVIDING SOME, UH, 'CAUSE IT, AS I'VE SEEN SOMETIMES IS THAT YOU, YOU GET PEOPLE THAT COME TO THESE MEETINGS AND THEN THEY DON'T HAVE, UH, THE FULL PICTURE AND THEY WON'T READ THE STAFF REPORT. SO HAVING EVEN MAYBE A CITY STORY PRESENT THAT NIGHT TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT ON, UH, MORE CONTROVERSIAL ITEMS WOULD BE HELPFUL. SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT HOPEFULLY OUR CITY HISTORIAN CAN STEP INTO THAT ROLE, HAVING PLAYED SOME PART IN SOME OF THESE COMMISSIONS AND ADVISORY PANELS THAT YOU'VE BEEN A PART OF. SO, UM, WITH THAT, OBVIOUSLY I HIGHLY RECOMMEND JEFF TO, TO BE OUR NEW CITY HISTORIAN. SO WITH THAT, I WOULD ACTUALLY, I'M GONNA TAKE IT, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND NOMINATE JEFF, OR AS A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO APPOINT AS CITY, UH, HISTORIAN. DO, DO I HAVE TO DO THAT THROUGH, LIKE, WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT KIND OF THING? LIKE THAT WE SHOULD DO THE, THE NORMAL, UH, MOTION SECOND. MM-HMM. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I FIGURED. SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT MOTION. UM, AND I WOULD INVITE ANY ONE OF US TO MAKE A SECOND. I SECOND. OKAY. I HAVE A SECOND AS WELL. AND THEN I WILL, UH, CALL FOR A VOTE FROM STAFF. OKAY. COMMISSIONER CAULFIELD? YES. COMMISSIONER CURTIS? YES. COMMISSIONER NADY? YES. AND CHAIRPERSON PAN? YES. AND I BELIEVE THE MOTION PASSES. CONGRATULATIONS, SIR. UH, I, I WISH YOU BEST OF LUCK AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, . YEAH. JUST TO REMIND THE, THE COMMISSION HERE, WE'RE, WE'RE RAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, FOR, UH, JEFF TO BE, UH, APPOINTED, UH, THE CITY HISTORIAN. SO, UH, DO WE KNOW WHEN THAT WILL TAKE PLACE? WILL THAT TAKE PLACE THIS MONTH AT THE NEXT, IT'LL TAKE PLACE IN 2025. OKAY. IN JANUARY. JANUARY, OKAY. ALRIGHT, GREAT. WELL, CONGRATULATIONS, SIR. UH, GOOD LUCK TO YOU. UM, OKAY, WELL, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS, UH, TONIGHT. UH, NEXT ITEM UP IS ITEM 6.2, WHICH IS TO FORM AN AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE, WHICH WILL BE TWO MEMBERS, UH, FOR, UH, WORK PLAN PROJECT NUMBER THREE, [00:30:01] INVOLVING ANALYSIS OF PROPERTIES DESIGNATED POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT IN THE CITY'S HISTORIC RESOURCE INVENTORY. AND WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION ON THAT TO START US OFF? YES. THANK YOU. UH, SO YES, STAFF HAS A BRIEF PRESENTATION. STAFF RECOMMENDS THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION FORM AN AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE TO WORK WITH STAFF AND THE FUTURE CITY HISTORIAN ON WORK PLAN PROJECT NUMBER THREE, WHICH WAS ADDED TO THE WORK PLAN IN MARCH OF 2024, AND IS CURRENTLY UNASSIGNED WORK PLAN. PROJECT NUMBER THREE INVOLVES UTILIZING THE EXISTING HISTORIC RESOURCES INVENTORY TO SELECT FROM RESOURCES DESIGNATED POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT TO ESTABLISH A CONDENSED LIST OF PROPERTIES FOR THE COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND PRIORITIZING FOR INTENSIVE LEVEL EVALUATION BY A CONSULTING HISTORIAN TO DETERMINE IF THE RESOURCES ARE SIGNIFICANT OR NOT SIGNIFICANT AS THEY ARE ALL CURRENTLY DESIGNATED, POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT. THIS INITIAL RESEARCH CAN BE PERFORMED BY SAID AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE IN COORDINATION WITH STAFF AND THE CITY HISTORIAN, AS WELL AS FUTURE TASKS, UH, INCLUDING REVIEWING THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR CONSULTANTS, UH, THE PROPOSAL SUBMITTED BY CONSULTANTS AND, UH, EVENTUAL WORK PRODUCTS CREATED BY THE CONSULTANT, WHICH WOULD BE THE INTENSIVE LEVEL EVALUATIONS, DPR FORMS THAT YOU CURRENTLY FIND IN THE HISTORIC RESOURCES INVENTORY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, AND THAT, UH, INFORMATION IS ALSO IN OUR, UH, STAFF REPORT, THE KIND OF BREAKDOWN OF THE DIFFERENT, UM, UM, UH, LET'S SEE THE DIFFERENT WORK PLANS THAT WE HAVE, UH, ESTABLISHED, I BELIEVE LAST YEAR. AND I WOULD LOVE TO DO THIS ONE, BUT I'M ALREADY ON NUMBER FOUR, SO, UM, WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO VOLUNTEER? WE, WE NEED TWO PEOPLE, UM, TO DO THIS, SO I VOLUNTEER. ALL RIGHT. I GOT COMMISSIONER CURTIS. UM, ANYONE? UH, NOW I DO, GO AHEAD, GO. NO, I WAS JUST GONNA REMIND YOU THAT WE DO HAVE ANOTHER ONE. UH, WE GOT A PROJECT NUMBER FIVE TOO, SO NOT EVERY, YOU KNOW, WELL, WE CAN SPREAD IT AROUND, BUT I HEAR YOU THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS ONE AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. UM, OKAY. SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND NOMINATE OUR COMMISSIONER. NRA. OH, MY NTI. OH MY GOSH. I'M GONNA HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOME WAY TO FIGURE THIS OUT. UM, SO I DON'T KEEP EMBARRASSING MYSELF HERE. UM, AND COMMISSIONER CURTIS TO, UM, THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE, DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECONDED. UH, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CAULFIELD AND, UH, ASK STAFF TO GO AHEAD AND CALL FOR A VOTE. COMMISSIONER CAULFIELD? YES. DO I SKIP? UH, THEY VOTE ON THEMSELVES. YEAH, I THINK WE CAN ALL, YEAH, I THINK WE EACH VOTE. COMMISSIONER CURTIS? YES. COMMISSIONER NA BODI. YES. CHAIRPERSON PAN? UH, YES. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE, UH, THAT ITEM AND, UM, ESTABLISHED. AND SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH ITEM 6.3, WHICH IS TO FORM ANOTHER AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE AND ADD A NEW PROJECT NUMBER FIVE TO OUR WORK PLAN FOR NOMINATING A PROPERTY TO THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES AND OR CALIFORNIA REGISTER OF HISTORICAL RESOURCES. SO, I'LL LET STAFF GO AHEAD AND GIVE US A BRIEF UPDATE ON THAT ONE BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH DISCUSSION. THANK YOU. UM, AT THE OCTOBER 2ND, 2025 MEETING, THE COMMISSION APPROVED FIVE PROPERTIES AS THOSE FOR THE CITY TO PRIORITIZE FOR NOMINATING TO THE NATIONAL REGISTER AND OR THE CALIFORNIA REGISTER STAFF NOW RECOMMENDS FORMING AN AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE OF, OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION TO WORK WITH STAFF TO RESEARCH THE PROCESS AND LOGISTICS INVOLVED INFORMALLY NOMINATING ONE OF THE PROPERTIES CHOSEN BY WORK PLAN PROJECT NUMBER TWO TO THE NATIONAL REGISTER OR THE CALIFORNIA REGISTER, AND ADDING THIS AS A NEW WORK PLAN PROJECT NUMBER FIVE, AS PART OF THIS RESEARCH, THE SUBCOMMITTEE COULD CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING, WHICH OF THE FIVE PROPERTIES ON THE LIST APPROVED BY THE COMMISSION SHOULD BE NOMINATED? HOW LONG WILL THE NOMINATION PROCESS TAKE? HOW WILL THE WORK BE DIVIDED? AND WILL THE CITY NEED TO HIRE A CONSULTANT TO ASSIST WITH THE PROCESS? AND WHAT WOULD THIS COST? I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY. ALL RIGHT, GREAT. THANK YOU. UM, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ONE? FIRST [00:35:01] OFF? YES. SO WORK PLAN PROJECT NUMBER TWO WAS TO CONDENSE THESE, UH, NOMINEES TO GO INTO WORK PLAN NUMBER FIVE TO GET IT DOWN TO ONE. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? UH, YES. SO WORK PLAN PROJECT NUMBER TWO WAS COMPLETED WHEN THE FIVE WERE CHOSEN. AND SO NOW THIS IS STARTING A NEW WORK PLAN PROJECT. ALL RIGHT. HAS ANYBODY, ANYBODY WANNA VOLUNTEER? I, I'M GONNA VOLUNTEER YOU, COMMISSIONER COFFEE, SINCE YOU'RE NOT ALREADY ON ONE. , ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? YEAH, I WAS ACTUALLY HOPING TO VOLUNTEER FOR THAT ONE. EXCELLENT. OKAY. UH, FANTASTIC. UH, AND THEN WE DO NEED ANOTHER MEMBER TO, UH, BE ON THIS ONE AS WELL, SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS, YOU WANNA DO THAT ONE AS WELL? OKAY. SO, UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND ACTUALLY, WHAT DO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION FOR OUR TWO NEW COMMISSIONERS TO BE ON AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR PROJECT NUMBER FIVE? SURE. SO WHAT WERE THE WORDS? SO BASICALLY YOU WOULD SAY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO NOMINATE, UH, COMMISSIONER CAULFIELD AND CURTIS TO YES. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO NOMINATE, UH, COMMISSIONER CAULFIELD AND CURTIS TO, UM, PROJECT NUMBER FIVE, AND I WILL GO AHEAD AND SECOND THAT MOTION. PERFECT. WE WILL VOTE. COMMISSIONER CAULFIELD? YES. COMMISSIONER CURTIS? YES. COMMISSIONER NAS NADI? YES. AND CHAIRPERSON PAN? YES. OH, GREAT. OKAY. UM, SO LET'S SEE. WITH THAT, I THINK WE'RE DONE WITH OUR, UH, MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION ITEMS NUMBER 6.1, TWO AND THREE. NEXT IS [7. COMMISSION REPORTS AND MATTERS INITIATED BY HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, STAFF, AND CITY HISTORIAN.] ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, WHICH IS COMMISSION'S, REPORTS AND MATTERS INITIATED BY HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION STAFF AND CITY HISTORIAN, ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT GET TO SAY ANYTHING TONIGHT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT YET A CITY HISTORIAN. SO, FOR THE TWO OF US, ANY STAFF MEMBER, UH, ITEMS TO INITIATE FROM STAFF? ALRIGHT, I, I, I'D JUST LIKE TO REMIND THE, THE COMMISSION AND THE, UH, THAT, UH, THIS WILL BE MY LAST MEETING AS THE, UH, LIAISON AND EMILY LADU TO MY LEFT WILL BE TAKEN OVER, UH, AS OF, UH, THE NEXT MEETING. BUT, UH, I WON'T BE, I WON'T BE GOING TOO FAR 'CAUSE I'M, I'M STILL GONNA BE WORKING ON THE, UH, WORK PLAN NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS THE INFORMATIONAL, UH, PAMPHLET AND, UH, UH, POTENTIALLY OTHER PROJECTS. YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE, THIS EXPERIENCE, UH, OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS BEING A LIAISON, I'VE LEARNED A LOT MORE ABOUT, UH, HISTORICAL PRESERVATION AND LIVERMORE'S HISTORY THAN I KNEW BEFORE. AND SO I'D LIKE TO BE, CONTINUE TO BE INVOLVED, UH, AS A PROJECT MANAGER. SO YOU'LL BE SEEING ME AROUND. UM, AND I ALSO JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, IT'S BEEN A, IT'S BEEN A PRIVILEGE TO SERVE IN THIS ROLE AND WORK WITH SO MANY PEOPLE WHO OBVIOUSLY LOVE LIVERMORE A LOT AND ARE, UH, VERY, VERY DEDICATED TO PRESERVING ITS HISTORY. SO IT'S BEEN GREAT AND VERY HUMBLING. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER ITEMS FROM STAFF BEFORE I SAY ANYTHING? NO. UH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY I, UM, HAVE WORKED WITH TORAN BEFORE, UH, MANY HIS, A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO WHEN HE WAS JUST, UH, A ROOKIE PLANNING STAFF MEMBER DOING SOME OF HIS FIRST, VERY, VERY FIRST PRESENTATIONS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR SOME YEARS AGO. SO, CONGRATULATIONS, UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, STAYING WITH THE, WITH THE CITY AND DOING EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE TO CONTRIBUTE. UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW MYSELF, UH, VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT. SO YOU'VE DONE DONE A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. UM, UH, WITH THAT, UH, BRING IT BACK UP HERE. UH, BEFORE I OPEN IT UP TO ANYONE ELSE, UH, I JUST PERSONALLY WANNA SAY AND WELCOME OUR TWO NEW COMMISSIONERS. I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, BUT, UH, COMMISSIONER CAULFIELD AND COMMISSIONER CURTIS, WELCOME TO THE, UH, STORE PRESERVATION COMMISSION. HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE MORE OF THESE MEETINGS, UH, MORE FREQUENTLY IN THE NEXT YEAR, HOPEFULLY. UM, BUT, UH, BUT WELCOME TO BOTH OF YOU AND ALSO TO, TO YOU FOR JOINING US JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. SO THANK YOU. UM, AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM TO INITIATE ANY MATTERS THAT, UH, UH, QUESTIONS OR, OR THINGS YOU WOULD, UH, LIKE STAFF TO WORK ON, YOU KNOW, PRIOR TO OUR NEXT MEETING. SO I DOUBT SINCE YOU GUYS, THIS IS YOUR FIRST MEETING, YOU HAVE ANY ITEMS, BUT I'D JUST LIKE TO ASK YOU FIRST [00:40:01] ANY, IF YOU HAD ANY ITEMS? NOT TODAY. NOT TODAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UH, YOURSELF? NO. OKAY. UH, I DON'T EITHER, UH, ACTUALLY, SO I THINK WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH IS ADJOURNMENT. SO WE'LL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS MEETING ADJOURNED TO OUR NEXT, UH, PLANNED, UH, UH, HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLANNED MEETING FOR THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 5TH, 2026, ALREADY AT SEVEN O'CLOCK IN THIS VERY ROOM. EVERYONE, HAVE A GOOD HOLIDAY AND WE'LL SEE YOU ALL IN FEBRUARY. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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