* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [*A portion of this video is without audio* ] [00:00:40] [00:06:03] [00:11:58] OKAY, WE'LL START WITH THIS ONE FOR NOW. SO WE ONLY HAVE ONE FUNCTIONING MICROPHONE ON THIS SIDE. NO, I THINK THEY, I WILL BE AT THE MEETING TOMORROW AFTERNOON. JUST YOU WILL BE. YEAH. I HAVEN'T, I'VE BEEN SO BUSY, JUST KIND RESTORING A WATERSHED TOMORROW MORNING, NINE TO ONE. I'M LIKE, OH, WELL, I GUESS I CAN FIT THAT IN. THAT'S A REALLY COOL PROJECT. WHAT ? IT'S IN BRUSHY PEAK. SO IT'S ONE OF THEIR FEEDER STREAMS THEY'VE DONE FOR A COUPLE YEARS NOW. YEAH, I WAS THERE LAST WEEK. LAST YEAR. WHEN ALL THE, YOU SAID, DID YOU SEE THE TREES THEY PLANTED? NO, BUT I I, WAS IT LAST YEAR WHEN ALL THE WATER WAS COMING? I MEAN, THE STREAMS WERE AMAZING. LIKE IN, IN THE, WHENEVER IT WAS A WET YEAR. YEAH. I, IT MAY HAVE BEEN TWO YEARS AGO. FRANCISCO. YEAH. I MEAN, IT WAS JUST AMAZING. I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING. WE WERE WALKING THROUGH MUD ALL THE TIME. OH GOD. THERE'S SOME MAJOR MUD . IT WAS JUST AMAZING. I WOULD NEVER EXPECTED TO SEE THOSE STREAMS IN LIVERMORE. I MEAN, IT WAS JUST INCREDIBLE PLACES EVERYWHERE. YEAH. SO WE WANNA GET THOSE TREE ROOTS HOLDING THAT SOIL IN PLACE. DEFINITELY. AND NOW THERE'S SALMON COMING UP. ALAMEDA CREEK. OH, WOW. YES. OKAY. CHART. I DON'T THINK THEY'LL MAKE IT THAT FAR. OKAY. . OKAY. I THINK WE'RE GOOD. SO I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. NO PROBLEM. ALL RIGHTY. SO NOW WE HAVE MICROPHONES AND IT'S MORE SERIOUS. UM, OKAY. YEAH. SO WE'RE [4. MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION] TALKING ABOUT SERIAL MEETINGS. SO SERIAL MEETINGS ARE THE TYPE OF INFORMAL MEETING THAT YOU HAVE TO BE MOST CAREFUL ABOUT. AND ESSENTIALLY THEY'RE A VIOLATION OF THE BROWN ACT. AND IT'S WHEN A SERIAL MEETING OCCURS WHEN A MAJORITY OF MEMBERS, ESSENTIALLY THROUGH A SERIES OF COMMUNICATIONS, DISCUSS DELIBERATE TAKE ACTION ON A MATTER OF, UM, AGENCY BUSINESS. AND SO THERE'S TWO TYPES OF SERIAL [00:15:01] MEETINGS. THERE'S GONNA BE A DAISY CHAIN AND A HUB AND SPOKE. SO A DAISY CHAIN IS ESSENTIALLY WHEN MEMBER A TALKS TO MEMBER B. MEMBER B TALKS TO MEMBER C, MEMBER C TO D. AND A QUORUM HAS BEEN SPOKEN WITH AND DISCUSSED DELIBERATED OR TAKEN SOME SORT OF ACTION ON CITY BUSINESS. A HUB AND SPOKE IS, UM, JUST WITH ONE PERSON MAKING CONTACTS TO EACH OF THOSE MEMBERS UNTIL A QUORUM HAS BEEN CONTACTED. THE KEY THING WITH HUB AND SPOKE IS THAT IT DOESN'T REQUIRE ONE OF YOU TO CONTACT EACH OTHER. IT COULD BE MYSELF. IT COULD BE ONE OF YOUR STAFF LIAISONS, A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC. SO YOU JUST HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU TALK TO PEOPLE WHO MIGHT WANNA SOLICIT INPUT FROM A COUPLE OF YOU ON MAYBE WHAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING. UM, 'CAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY'VE CONTACTED. AND IF YOU SPEAK WITH THEM ABOUT MATTERS OF, UM, COMMITTEE BUSINESS, YOU COULD VIOLATE THE BROWN ACT UNINTENTIONALLY. SO THAT ONE IS KIND OF THE, THE ONE TO WATCH OUT FOR. I'LL ALSO SAY, AND THIS ISN'T EXPRESSLY CLEAR, IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE BROWN, WELL, IT PROBABLY IS, BUT MAYBE NOT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT. BUT THE INDIVIDUAL, IF THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE COMMITTEE THAT CONTACTS, YOU CAN'T VIOLATE THE BROWN ACT. YOU GUYS WOULD BE VIOLATING THE BROWN ACT. AND STAFF CAN'T VIOLATE THE BROWN ACT EITHER. SO IT'S LEGISLATIVE BODIES THAT VIOLATE IT. SO YOU JUST WANNA BE CAREFUL THAT YOU THINK, OKAY, WELL THERE'S SOME RESPONSIBILITY ON THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND, AND STAFF AND WE ALL ABIDE BY IT. BUT YOU NEVER KNOW, UM, TO NOT CONTACT ALL OF YOU. AND THAT'S TRUE. UM, BUT YOU JUST HAVE TO BE AWARE THAT VIOLATORS ARE ON THAT SIDE AND NOT ON THIS SIDE, WHICH IS KIND OF SUCKY. BUT YEAH, THE, THE MAIN ONE IS IF PEOPLE ASK YOU HOW YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE ON A SPECIFIC ITEM, RIGHT. BECAUSE THEY CAN ESSENTIALLY DETERMINE THE GROUP'S DECISION MM-HMM . IF EVERYBODY ANSWERS. RIGHT. RIGHT. EXACTLY. DOES, DOES THAT APPLY, FOR EXAMPLE, IF AN ADD IS THAT ON? HOW DO I TURN THIS? IT'S ON, IT IS. OKAY. DOES THAT APPLY? UH, IF FOR EXAMPLE, I WOULD, I AS A CITIZEN WOULD APPROACH AN AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT WAS FORMED AND AND ASK THEM WHAT THEIR THINKING WAS OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT PROCESSES THEY WERE USING TO ARRIVE AT A DECISION OR ANY, WOULD THAT, HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT BE AFFECTED BY THE BROWN ACT? YEAH. SO IN TERMS OF AFFECTING AN AD HOC, BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE LESS THAN A QUORUM, IT'S PROBABLY NOT A VIOLATION OF THE BROWN ACT. BUT THE RISK IS IF THEY CONTACT ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S NOT PART OF THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE, THEN THERE WOULD BE A VIOLATION, ASSUMING THAT YOU FILL YOUR AD HOC COMMITTEE WITH, I THINK IT'D BE TWO PEOPLE HERE, RIGHT? OR THREE. THREE. YEAH. SO IF YOU CONTACT ONE MORE. SO I THINK THAT COULD BE OKAY, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY PROBLEMATIC IF MORE PEOPLE ARE CONTACTED. AND THE APPEARANCE OF A VIOLATION IS QUITE STRONG WITH THAT. UM, BECAUSE THERE'S, UM, THREE OF YOU BEING CONTACTED ABOUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO POTENTIALLY VOTE. I, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT VOTING. I'M ASKING A PROCESS, WHAT PROCESS THEY'RE USING. YEAH, IT'S, YEAH. PROCESS VOTING, ANYTHING WITHIN YOUR, UM, SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, WHICH WOULD BE THE PROCESS THAT YOU USE TO COME TO SOME SORT OF DECISION OR OUTCOME ON SOMETHING REALLY. MM-HMM . A PROCESS EVEN TO SAY, WHAT, WHERE ARE YOU GETTING YOUR INFORMATION OR HOW ARE YOU? THAT TO ME, ANYTHING. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. AS LONG, I MEAN, IF THERE, IF YOU WOULD SAY, OR IF YOU COULD FAIRLY SAY THAT THE PROCESS THAT YOU UTILIZE ISN'T WITHIN THE, LIKE, JURISDICTION OF THE BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE, THEN MAYBE THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD SAY THAT. 'CAUSE IT IS PART OF THE ENTIRE PACKAGE. SO AGAIN, IT'S NOT EFFICIENT. UM, FEELS KIND OF CUMBERSOME. BUT IF IT'S JUST AN AD HOC COMMITTEE AND YOU THINK THAT THAT PERSON IS GONNA CONTACT ANYBODY ELSE, IT MIGHT BE OKAY. BUT I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND. AND IF THEY WANNA ASK THE QUESTION, THEY CAN COME HERE AND ASK AT A REGULAR RESCHEDULED MEETING THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT, WHICH WOULD BE TOTALLY FINE. SO YOU COULD DO THAT AT, AT A REG. OKAY. YEAH. THEY COULD COME ON OPEN FORM AND COME AND ASK. YEAH. THAT'S THE CLEANEST WAY TO DO IT. ALRIGHTY. UM, ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS, ACTUALLY, LEMME MAKE SURE I DIDN'T SKIP A SLIDE. OH, OKAY. I DID SKIP A SLIDE. EXCUSE ME. SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THIS NOTE IN HERE AND NOT EVERYBODY FROM OUR OFFICE WILL MENTION IT, BUT I JUST WANNA SAY, BE AWARE OF INFORMAL GATHERINGS. AGAIN, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, UM, PUBLIC VISIBILITY DOESN'T SATISFY THE BROWN ACT. SO EVEN IF YOU'RE MAYBE MEETING WITH EACH OTHER IN PUBLIC TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING, IT COULD STILL BE AN INFORMAL MEETING. IT COULD APPEAR TO BE AN INFORMAL MEETING. SO YOU JUST WANNA BE CAUTIOUS OF THE APPEARANCE [00:20:01] OF A VIOLATION AND INFORMAL GATHERINGS, WHICH GENERALLY ARE GONNA FALL UNDER THAT SERIAL MEETING RULE. UM, BUT I WOULD JUST CAUTION YOU THAT MEETING INFORMALLY CAN BE PROBLEMATIC. ALRIGHT. ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS. SO, UM, WE GENERALLY ADVISE NOT TO UTILIZE ANY SORT OF SOCIAL MEDIA OR KIND OF ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER, TO COME TO A CONSENSUS OR TALK ABOUT, UM, COMMITTEE BUSINESS FOR THE SAME REASONS THE BROWN ACT MAKES THAT A VIOLATION. SO, UM, IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE. WE JUST DON'T RECOMMEND IT. EVEN FOR AD HOC COMMITTEES. AD HOC COMMITTEES WOULD BE FINE BECAUSE IT'S NOT THAT QUORUM. UM, EXCEPT SOCIAL MEDIA IS THE KIND OF RIGHT MONKEY WRENCH, AS YOU GUYS KNOW. SO IN TERMS OF SOCIAL MEDIA, THIS IS THE ONE THAT YOU HAVE TO BE THE MOST CAREFUL ABOUT. SO YOU CAN UTILIZE SOCIAL MEDIA TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT THE PUBLIC RECEIVE INFORMATION FROM THE PUBLIC, THAT TYPE OF THING AS INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS. UM, BUT THE PROBLEM IS IF YOU INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER'S POSTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THE BROWN ACT EXPRESSLY PROHIBITS THAT. EVEN IF IT'S JUST ONE OF YOU LIKING ANOTHER PERSON'S POST THAT IS FOR WHATEVER REASON, A VIOLATION. SO, UM, I WOULD JUST BE CAREFUL OF THAT. AND I CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH THE CODE SECTION IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO READ IT FOR YOURSELF. IT IS A LITTLE BIT, UM, FUNKY, BUT JUST BE AWARE, DON'T LIKE EACH OTHER'S POSTS. I'M SORRY, NOT GREAT FOR YOUR, UH, YOUR LIKE COUNT, MAYBE . UH, I ALSO WANTED TO GIVE A REMINDER ABOUT THE PUBLIC RECORDS ACT. SO THE PUBLIC RECORDS ACT IS GOING TO APPLY TO COMMUNICATIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE ON YOUR PERSONAL DEVICES IF THEY RELATE TO CITY BUSINESS AND ARE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE INFORMATION BEING REQUESTED. SO WE DO RECOMMEND GENERALLY SPEAKING THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO USE PERSONAL DEVICES OR EMAIL ACCOUNTS, THAT YOU HAVE A SEPARATE EMAIL ACCOUNT FOR CITY BUSINESS. SO THAT IF SOMEONE ASKS FOR INFORMATION, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND KIND OF PROVIDE YOUR PERSONAL ACCOUNT OR BUSINESS ACCOUNT FOR, UM, SEARCHING OF RECORDS. GENERALLY SPEAKING, OUR CLERK'S OFFICE WILL ASK IF THERE IS A RELEVANT PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST FOR YOU TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION AND THEY CAN RELY ON WHAT YOU PROVIDE THEM. BUT IF THERE'S ANY SORT OF CHALLENGE LEGALLY, THEN YOUR ACCOUNTS COULD BE OPENED UP FOR SEARCH AND YOU JUST DON'T WANT THAT. SO WE RECOMMEND JUST KEEP IT SEPARATE, UM, AND YOU WILL HOPEFULLY AVOID ANY SORT OF TROUBLE IF ANYTHING DOES HAPPEN. ALL RIGHTY. SO MEETING REQUIREMENTS. SO WE'RE JUST GONNA GO THROUGH THIS BRIEFLY, BUT AS YOU ALL KNOW, MEETINGS HAVE TO BE PROPERLY NOTICED. YOU CAN ONLY DISCUSS ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA. YOU HAVE TO TAKE, HAVE THE MEETINGS TAKE PLACE WITHIN BASICALLY THE CITY. THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS TO THAT AND BE COMPLETELY ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC, WHICH GENERALLY YOU GUYS MEET ALL OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS. SO WE'RE JUST GONNA FOCUS ON THE NOTICE AND AGENDA REQUIREMENTS. 'CAUSE I THINK THEY'RE HELPFUL TO KNOW. UM, YOUR STAFF LIAISONS WILL TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THOSE ITEMS FOR YOU. UM, BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING GOOD TO BE AWARE OF. SO IN TERMS OF NOTICE, YOU NEED TO HAVE A WRITTEN AGENDA POSTED BEFORE EVERY MEETING. AND THE GENERAL REQUIREMENT IS 72 HOURS IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING. THAT AGENDA HAS TO BE POSTED. AND THEN WE POST, UH, AGENDAS ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. UH, TYPICALLY WE'RE GONNA POST AGENDAS. I MEAN, I WON'T COMMIT TO ANYTHING FOR YOU ALL, BUT IT OFTEN HAPPENS EARLIER THAN THE 72 HOURS, ESPECIALLY FOR COUNCIL MEETINGS. UM, AND I THINK YOU ALL ARE ON TOP OF IT. IT USUALLY HAPPENS FOR THIS COMMITTEE AS WELL. IN TERMS OF THE CONTENTS OF AGENDAS. THEY HAVE TO CONTAIN A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF EVERY ITEM TO BE DISCUSSED, THEIR ACTION TO BE TAKEN. AND THE DESCRIPTIONS NEED TO BE CLEAR ENOUGH AND DETAILED ENOUGH. SO IF A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WERE TO LOOK AT IT, THEY CAN GENERALLY GET A SENSE OF WHAT YOU'RE GONNA BE DOING HERE. AND I THINK WHEN I LOOK AT AGENDA ITEMS, KNOW WHETHER THEY WANNA PARTICIPATE AND ATTEND. UM, AND ALSO, AS YOU KNOW, AND AS YOU'VE DONE HERE TODAY, THE AGENDAS HAVE TO INCLUDE A TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. UH, THE BIG RED FLAG HERE IS TO AVOID DISCUSSION OR ACTION OF ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA. NOW, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENT OR ASK FOR ITEMS TO BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA. UM, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO ASK STAFF TO LOOK INTO THINGS FOR YOU. SO THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY TO HAVE, UM, SOME LEVEL, UM, OF DISCUSSION OF THINGS NOT ON THE AGENDA. BUT THE ASK IS TO KEEP THAT LIMITED BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT REALLY SUPPOSED TO DISCUSS ITEMS THAT AREN'T NOTICED ON THE AGENDA. I THINK FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, YOU GUYS HAVE A GOOD SENSE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN TERMS OF PUTTING ITEMS ON THE AGENDA FOR OR ON THE CALENDAR FOR YOUR NEXT MEETING. AND, AND I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB WITH THAT. UM, BUT JUST A, A CAUTION NOT TO DISCUSS [00:25:01] THINGS NOT ON THE AGENDA IF YOU CAN AVOID IT. OKAY. PUBLIC COMMENT. SO, UM, LIKE I SAID, THE AGENDAS NEED TO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS YOU ON MATTERS OF COMMITTEE BUSINESS. SO THERE'S USUALLY LIKE AN OPEN FORUM LIKE WE HAD TODAY. ITEMS WILL ALSO HAVE THEIR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. THE CHAIR IS ALLOWED TO ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS FOR SPEAKERS IF YOU DO CHOOSE TO DO THAT. AND YOU CAN REQUEST SPEAKERS TO FILL OUT SPEAKER CARDS, BUT IT ISN'T NECESSARILY REQUIRED. SO WE ALWAYS RECOMMEND THAT YOU ASK IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, WHICH YOU DID TODAY. AND THE KEY THING TO REMEMBER IS THERE ISN'T A CONDITION PRECEDENT FOR THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE COMMENT. SO AGAIN, LIKE SPEAKER CARDS NOT REQUIRED, DON'T NEED TO PROVIDE YOUR ADDRESS, DON'T NEED TO PROVIDE YOUR NAME. IT'S ALWAYS SAFE. WHEN IN DOUBT, JUST LET THE PUBLIC SPEAK IN TERMS OF CAUTIONS. AND I, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THIS COMES UP HERE, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW. UM, IF YOU DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTERS, YOU SHOULDN'T RESTRICT THEM BASED ON THE CONTENT OF THEIR SPEECH OR VIEWPOINTS. IT SHOULD ALL BE VIEWPOINT NEUTRAL. THIS IS JUST TO AVOID FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUES. UM, PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY, BUT YOU KNOW, TIME LIMITS ARE OKAY BECAUSE NOT RELATED TO YOUR CONTENT, BUT LIKE, I DON'T WANNA HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT TREES, LIKE THAT'S A CONTENT RESTRICTIONS. SO PLEASE DON'T DO THAT. I DON'T THINK YOU GUYS EVER WOULD, UM, AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, CAN'T ASK PEOPLE NOT TO PARTICIPATE FOR FAILURE TO PROVIDE CERTAIN INFORMATION, YOU DON'T HAVE TO REQUIRE ANYONE TO FILL OUT SPEAKER CARDS AND KEY THING, NEGATIVE COMMENTS AND CRITICISMS YOU HAVE TO ALLOW. IT'S UNFORTUNATE YOU SEE IT WITH COUNSEL ALL THE TIME, BUT NOT WILLFUL INTERRUPTIONS OR DISRUPTIONS. SO THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY IN THE BROWN ACT TO ESSENTIALLY EJECT PEOPLE IF THEY'RE WILLFULLY DISRUPTING. IT IS A PROCESS. I'M SURE YOUR STAFF LIAISONS WOULD BE ABLE TO ASSIST IF THAT EVER DID HAPPEN. UM, BUT ESSENTIALLY YOU GIVE A NOTICE, THEN YOU WOULD ASK THEM TO, YOU KNOW, LEAVE. IF THEY DON'T COMPLY WITH THE, WELL NOT LEAVE, BUT TO CALM DOWN. IF THEY DON'T COMPLY WITH THAT, THEN YOU CAN ASK THEM TO LEAVE, CLOSE THE MEETING TO THEM. BUT STILL, ANYONE WHO'S NOT DISRUPTIVE WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO REMAIN IN THE MEETING. IF, IF SOMEONE COMES AND SPEAKS AND WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR WHAT THEY SAY, IS THAT ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS? YEAH, YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS. YEAH, I JUST WOULDN'T LIKE GO TOO DEEP INTO ANY SORT OF TOPIC, BUT YOU CAN ASK QUESTION, BUT TO CLARIFY YEAH, YEAH, TO RECEIVE INFORMATION AND ASK QUESTIONS FOR SURE. ALRIGHTY. SO AS I THREATENED AT THE BEGINNING, PENALTIES , UM, I KNOW THIS WAS AN INTERESTING ONE LAST YEAR, BUT ESSENTIALLY THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN AND INVALIDATION OF AN ACTION OR DECISION OR A CRIMINAL MISDEMEANOR. UM, THE CRIMINAL MISDEMEANOR IS, IS KIND OF INTERESTING. SO ESSENTIALLY IT CAN HAPPEN IF YOU ATTEND A MEETING WHERE AN ACTION IS TAKEN IN VIOLATION OF THE BROWN ACT AND THEN THE MEMBER, UM, THAT IS SUBJECT TO THE CRIMINAL MISDEMEANOR INTENDS TO DEPRIVE THE PUBLIC OF INFORMATION OR KNOWS OR HAS REASON TO KNOW, UM, THE PUBLIC IS ENTITLED TO THE LIKELIHOOD OF THIS OCCURRING OR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. EVEN PICKING UP A CRIMINAL MISDEMEANOR CHARGE IS UNLIKELY, UM, ESPECIALLY FOR SMALLER JURISDICTIONS. BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS OUT THERE. AND AS I SAID, INDIVIDUALS CAN'T VIOLATE THE BROWN ACT OR BE SUBJECT TO MISDEMEANORS. IT WOULD BE THE LEGISLATIVE BODY. SO JUST SOMETHING TO BE AWARE OF. UM, THE KEY THING TOO IS THAT, UM, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY FOR FUTURE DISQUALIFICATION. IF THERE IS A MISDEMEANOR PURSUIT. AGAIN, I DON'T THINK, OR I HOPE THAT THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN HERE. BUT AGAIN, IF YOU GO TO OTHER LEGISLATIVE BODIES, IT'S JUST AGAIN, SOMETHING TO BE AWARE OF. UM, THE PUBLIC CAN ALSO BRING A CIVIL ACTION TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE PASS ACTION OF A LEGISLATIVE BODY VIOLATED THE BROWN ACT. UM, I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF A RISK THAT IS HERE. AGAIN, JUST SOMETHING TO BE AWARE OF IN ANY EVENT, IF EITHER, UM, OR IF A CIVIL ACTION IS BROUGHT, OUR OFFICE WOULD PROBABLY BE INVOLVED IN ASSESSING KIND OF NEXT STEPS IN ADVISING. SO, YAY, . ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA TRANSITION TO THE RULES OF PROCEDURE BRIEFLY, WHICH I THINK WILL BE HOPEFULLY HELPFUL AT LEAST AS A REFRESHER. SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SOURCES OF RULES OF ORDER FOR YOU. ALL THE COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE ARE KIND OF THE NORTH STAR OF THE RULES OF ORDER FOR THE CITY. AND ALL OF THE, UH, DIFFERENT COMMITTEE OR COMMISSION RULES ARE BASED ON THOSE COUNCIL RULES. SO YOU'VE GOT THE COUNCIL RULES, YOU'VE GOT THE BEAUTIFICATION RULES OF PROCEDURE, AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, BOTH OF THOSE SETS OF RULES RELYING ON THE ROSENBERG RULES OF ORDER, WHICH WILL DECIDE QUESTIONS ABOUT LIKE VOTING AND TIES, UM, AND HOW TO CONDUCT THE MEETING AND THEN TAKE COMMENTS. SO THAT IS ALSO AN OPTION FOR A SOURCE OF RULE OF ORDER. SO THE KEY THING IN TERMS OF JUST FROM A RULES OF ORDER PERSPECTIVE, IT IS ALSO RELEVANT FOR THE BROWN ACT. BUT AGAIN, STARTING WHEN DO A MEETING IS ESTABLISHING A QUORUM AND YOU NEED THAT TO CONDUCT ANY BUSINESS, THE CHAIR IS LUCKILY, UM, CHARGED WITH APPLYING THE RULES OF CONDUCT FOR THE MEETING AND FOR SETTLING POINTS [00:30:01] OF ORDER. SO QUESTIONS ABOUT MOTIONS OR VOTING, WE GO TO THE CHAIR AND, AND THEY HAVE TO PREPARE THAT BURDEN. DECIDING THOSE ITEMS FOR YOU ALL. UH, THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST HELPFUL SLIDE. SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU WANNA RIP OUT OF YOUR PACKET AND TAKE WITH YOU IS THE FORMAT FOR AGENDA ITEM DISCUSSION. SO THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND AND I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THEM 'CAUSE I THINK THEY'RE HELPFUL. THE CHAIR IS GOING TO ANNOUNCE THE ITEM NUMBER AND STATE THE ITEM. INVITE THE APPROPRIATE PERSON TO REPORT, WHETHER IT BE FROM STAFF OR THE PUBLIC. ASK MEMBERS IF THEY HAVE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS OF ABOUT THAT ITEM. OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT, ANNOUNCE WHEN PUBLIC COMMENT HAS CONCLUDED. THEN YOU CAN DELIBERATE ON THE ITEM, INVITE A MOTION ANNOUNCE WHO MADE THE MOTION, INVITE A SECOND ANNOUNCE WHO MADE THE SECOND VOTE, AND THEN ANNOUNCE THE RESULT OF THAT ITEM. UM, SO IT IS A HELPFUL, UM, PROCESS FOR MAKING SURE THAT YOU COMPLY WITH THE RULES OF ORDER. AND THEN ALSO IN TERMS OF MINUTE KEEPING TO HAVE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION SO THAT FOR YOUR MINUTES WE CAN REFLECT IT ACCURATELY. UH, I'LL TALK VERY BRIEFLY ABOUT ABSTENTIONS. SO COUNCIL DISCOURAGES ABSTENTIONS, UM, 'CAUSE THEY WANNA HOLD, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND COMMISSION MEMBERS ACCOUNTABLE TO THE PUBLIC. SO IF YOU ARE GOING TO ABSTAIN, AND I SHOULD SAY FIRST CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, UM, IS NOT AN ABS EXTENSIBLE ITEM, IT'S A DISQUALIFYING ITEM. SO YOU CAN'T ABSTAIN FOR A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. YOU WOULD LEAVE FOR A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. SO ABSTENTION IS FOR WHATEVER OTHER REASON YOU CHOOSE NOT TO VOTE ON AN ITEM ITEM. SO IF YOU WANNA ABSTAIN FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU NEED TO ANNOUNCE YOUR ABSTENTION WHEN THE ITEM IS FIRST CALLED AND NOT PARTICIPATE IN CONSIDERATION OF THE ITEM. IF YOU FAIL TO DO THAT, UM, WHEN THE COMMITTEE VOTES ON THE ITEM, YOUR VOTE IS GONNA BE TABULATED IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION. IF, HOWEVER, YOU DON'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ABSTENTION, BUT YOU'RE JUST SILENT, YOUR VOTE IS GONNA BE TABULATED WITH THE MAJORITY OF THE VOTE. SO, LIKE, IT'S NOT AN ABSTENTION, BUT WHEN WE COME TO VOTE, NOBODY SAYS ANYTHING AND WE HAVE A QUORUM THAT SAYS SOMETHING ELSE, YOU'LL BE TABULATED WITH THAT. SO THE KEY THING WITH THAT IS, YOU KNOW, BE CAUTIOUS WITH ABSTENTIONS AND IF YOU'RE GONNA ABSTAIN, JUST ANNOUNCE IT AT THE START OF THE ITEM. AND CONFLICTS ARE NOT ABSTENTIONS, UH, MEDIA RECORDINGS AND WORKSHOPS. SO I DON'T THINK THIS IS, UM, SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS FREQUENTLY. BUT MEETINGS ARE OPEN TO THE MEDIA AND THEY CAN BE RECORDED BY THE MEDIA. SO, UM, AS LONG AS THEY DON'T INTERFERE WITH THE ORDERLY CONDUCT OF BUSINESS, IT'S TOTALLY FINE. SO YOU NEVER KNOW ONE DAY THEY MIGHT WANNA COME AND BOTHER EVERYBODY HERE. UH, JUST A BRIEF NOTE ABOUT TRANSPARENCY LAWS. JUST AS A REFRESHER, THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT LAWS, OR I SHOULD SAY A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT LAWS IN THE STATE THAT MAKE SURE THAT MEETINGS ARE TRANSPARENT AND ECONOMIC INTERESTS OF COMMISSIONERS ARE ALSO TRANSPARENT. SO I MEAN, ALL OF YOU KNOW ABOUT THE FORM 700 THAT YOU HAVE TO FILE. I ALSO HAVE TO FILE ONE OF THOSE. SO WE ARE OBLIGATED TO MAKE CERTAIN INFORMATION PUBLIC. SAME THING WITH THE PUBLIC RECORDS ACT. COMMUNICATIONS THAT ARE, UM, PROPERLY SOUGHT BY THE PUBLIC ARE ARE OPEN BROWN ACT. SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT MAKE WHAT GOES ON HERE TRANSPARENT. UM, I JUST, WE'RE ALMOST DONE. SO YAY FOR EVERYBODY. UH, KEY POINTS TO REMEMBER. AGAIN, ALL MEETINGS NEED TO BE OPEN AND PUBLIC. AND PUBLIC NEEDS TO BE INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING AND PROVIDE COMMENT IF THEY SO CHOOSE THIS ACT, THE BROWN ACT THAT REQUIRES THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU ALL AS A LEGISLATIVE BODY AND IF YOU JOIN ANOTHER ADVISORY BODY OR ANOTHER ELECTED OFFICE WOULD APPLY TO YOU ONCE YOU BECOME ELECTED. AND THE ACT APPLIES TO SOCIAL MEDIA. SO, YOU KNOW, BE CAREFUL ABOUT LIKING POSTS THAT OTHER MEMBERS. AND THEN JUST BRIEFLY PITFALLS TO AVOID DISCUSSING AN ITEM THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, SUBJECT TO THE CAVEATS THAT WE MENTIONED BEFORE ABOUT ASKING QUESTIONS OR, UM, INITIATING NEW ITEMS FOR SUBSEQUENT AGENDAS, SERIAL MEETINGS. SO THAT DAISY CHAIN A MEMBER A, CONTACTS MEMBER B AND C AND THAT HUB AND SPOKE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, UM, MIGHT FALL KIND OF IN A GRAY AREA THERE AND THEN DISCUSSING BUSINESS WITH A QUORUM OF MEMBERS OUTSIDE OF A MEETING. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND AVOIDING THAT 'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE A BROWN ACT VIOLATION. SO THAT IS IT FOR ME. IF THERE'S QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. YEAH. COULD YOU ADDRESS CONFLICT OF INTEREST? HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT? YEAH, SO CONFLICTS OF INTEREST. IF THERE'S ANY ITEM WHERE WE MIGHT ACTUALLY BE VOTING ON SOMETHING THAT HAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND THERE MIGHT BE THREE ITEMS MM-HMM . AND ONE OF THEM MIGHT BE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. YEAH. SO ARE YOU SAYING LIKE YOU'VE IDENTIFIED THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND YOU'RE IN THE VOTING PROCESS? OR THAT YOU HAVEN'T YET IDENTIFIED IT? OR BOTH? WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE, THE CONFLICT. OKAY. YEAH. SO IN TERMS OF IF YOU'RE VOTING ON LIKE A GROUP OF ITEMS THAT MIGHT COME TOGETHER IN A PACKAGE LIKE MOVING CONSENT OR WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE, [00:35:01] UM, AND YOU ARE CONFLICTED OUT ON ONE ITEM, THAT ITEM SHOULD BE PULLED OUT OF THAT GROUP OF ITEMS AND CONSIDERED SEPARATELY MAYBE AFTER OR BEFORE SO THAT YOU HAVE THE OPTION OR OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE IF IT'S A DISQUALIFYING CONFLICT LEAVE AND THEN COME BACK WHEN YOU ARE NO LONGER DISQUALIFIED. UM, IF IT'S NOT A DISQUALIFYING CONFLICT, SO THAT YOU CAN AT LEAST ANNOUNCE THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE AN, UM, I DON'T WANNA SAY AN APPEARANCE OF A CONFLICT, BUT MIGHT HAVE SOME INTEREST THAT YOU WANNA DISCLOSE AND SAY IT'S NOT A CONFLICT, BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND PULLING THE ITEM. OKAY. SO THAT YOU CAN JUST CONSIDER IT SEPARATELY. ARE YOU, YOU SPECIFICALLY REFERRING TO THE BEAUTIFICATION AWARDS MM-HMM . IS THERE ANYTHING OTHER, OTHER THAN THAT, THAT YOU'RE CURIOUS ABOUT HAVING A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON? I THINK THERE IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST IN ONE OF THEM. RIGHT. I'M ASKING FOR YOU SPECIFICALLY. WERE YOU, UH, WANTING SPECIFIC INFORMATION ON IF YOU'VE NOMINATED A A PROPERTY? NO, NO, JUST VOTING. JUST HOW TO HANDLE, YOU KNOW, VOTING ON SOMETHING WHERE ONE MEMBER MIGHT HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST OF MANY, YOU KNOW, OF MANY ITEMS. THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING. OKAY. SO I THINK YOU ANSWERED WELL. YEAH, YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION. YEAH. YEAH. JUST PULL THE ITEM OUT. OKAY. YEAH. AND THERE ARE SOME PROVISIONS OF THE BROWN ACT ON ACCEPTING GIFTS, BUT THAT VERY RARELY COMES UP IN THIS CASE. LIKE BANANA BREAD, UNFORTUNATELY. . YEAH. WELL, YEAH. AND GIVE BANANA BREAD. I DON'T SEE IT ANYWHERE IN FRONT OF ME. , THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A, UH, A MINIMUM LIMIT AS FAR AS DOLLAR VALUE AND THIS FALLS WELL UNDER IT FOR SURE. THAT, AND UNLESS, I MEAN, SOMEONE'S BRINGING YOU BANANA BREAD EVERY WEEK AND THEN IT COULD AGGREGATE , BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I HOPE NOT. ALTHOUGH IT DOES LOOK VERY VALUABLE. SO, UM, I GUESS IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, THEN I HOPE TO SEE A LOT OF YOU NEXT YEAR AND WELL, I WOULD HAVE TO, I WANNA QUE UH, OR ASK A QUESTION FOR SURE. KIND OF A FOLLOW UP ON WHAT KAREN WAS SAYING. UM, THERE'S A, THERE'S A CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH THE BODY MM-HMM . AND THEN THERE'S POTENTIAL CONFLICTS OF INTEREST WITHIN THE AD HOC, BUT YOU'RE STILL OPERATING AS A MEMBER OF THE BODY. YEAH. UM, LIKE DOES, I MEAN, IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY A BROWN ACT BECAUSE YOU'RE IN THE AD HOC PHASE OF THE LITTLE TINY BABY COMMITTEE. RIGHT. SO IT'S, IT, IT FEELS LIKE MAYBE IT'S A, UM, YOU SHOULD DO WHAT FEELS RIGHT AND REMOVE THYSELF. IF THERE'S A, IF I MEAN, AND SPECIFICALLY I'M REFERRING TO, I WAS WORRIED AND CONNECTED WITH MESA ABOUT, UM, I DESIGNED ONE OF THE GARDENS THAT WAS UP FOR AN AWARD. SO, AND THEN I'M ALSO ON THE AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT'S VOTING ON THE AWARD. SO THAT FELT KIND OF WEIRD. LIKE SO, BUT RIGHT. SINCE IT WAS JUST A LITTLE AD HOC COMMITTEE, I JUST NOTED THIS IS ONE OF MY GARDENS, I'M NOT GONNA YEAH. I THINK IT'S AWESOME. SURE. BUT YEAH, BUT THEN I WASN'T QUITE SURE IF THAT REALLY FELL INTO A REAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST 'CAUSE I'M NOT GETTING ANYTHING FROM IT. RIGHT. RIGHT. AND THAT, I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE CALCULUS. LIKE AT THE POINT, ESPECIALLY WITH AN AD HOC COMMITTEE WHERE YOU'RE NOT SUBJECT TO LIKE BEING IN THIS TIME AND PLACE. LIKE IF YOU IDENTIFY SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK MIGHT BE A CONFLICT, REACH OUT TO YOUR STAFF LIAISONS AND THEY'LL CONTACT OUR OFFICE AND WE'LL ADVISE ON THE CONFLICT ISSUE. JUST 'CAUSE IT CAN BE QUITE NUANCES YOU'RE SAYING. AND I THINK WE ADVISED ON THIS ONE. UM, YEAH. SO YEAH, WE HAVE A, A COMPLEX EXPERT IN OUR OFFICE AND SHE IS GREAT AT ADVISING ON THIS. AND SO THE SECOND YOU IDENTIFY IT, JUST LET US KNOW AND WE WILL EITHER SAY GREEN LIGHT, YOU KNOW YEAH. MAYBE WE RECOMMEND THIS OR WE WOULDN'T RECOMMEND PARTICIPATING. YEAH. BUT IT'S TRICKY 'CAUSE THEY'RE JUST SO NUANCED AND YOU'RE RIGHT. LIKE IF YOU RECEIVE LIKE, VALUE FROM IT, WHAT WE CLASSIFY AS VALUE, THE AMOUNT OF THE VALUE, LIKE THE ECONOMIC INTEREST PORTION OF IT CAN BE DIFFICULT TO DETERMINE KIND OF IN THE ABSTRACT. YEAH. I BASICALLY JUST TOLD THE, SHE, I MEAN, I, I JUST PUT IT OUT TO A BUNCH OF PEOPLE, HEY, NOMINATE YOURSELVES. AND SHE DID, BUT THEN I JUST KIND OF REACHED OUT TO HER AND SAID, DON'T MENTION ME. 'CAUSE I DON'T NEED, I'M NOT, I DON'T WANNA BE SEEN AS ADVERTISING. RIGHT. AND I DON'T HAVE MY NAME ON ANY OF IT. SO NOBODY KNEW UNLESS THEY ACTUALLY KNEW THE JOB. YEAH. UM, BUT YEAH, ANYWAY. YEAH. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT WAS YOUR, WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO. NO, IT WASN'T. OH, OKAY. YEAH. BUT YOU, I MEAN, YOU DID THE RIGHT THING TO CONTACT STAFF AND UM, WE WERE ABLE TO HELP OUT WITH THAT. SO THANK YOU. YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT CONFLICTS, PLEASE JUST REACH OUT 'CAUSE IT'S THE SAFEST THING TO DO EARLY AND OFTEN. . YEAH. ALL RIGHTY. GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MOLLY. OKAY. THANK YOU MOLLY. YEAH. DON'T FORGET TO TAKE, WE'RE TRAINED FOR ANOTHER YEAR, , MAYBE SIX MONTHS. OH. WE'RE TRAINED FOR SIX MONTHS. DO AN ANNUAL TRAINING IN JUNE. UM, THANK YOU. SO MOVING DOWN THE AGENDA, UH, ON THE 0.4 0.3, APPROVE OF 2026 BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE [00:40:01] MEETING CALENDAR, PASSOVER TO MARISSA FOR THAT. SURE. SO THE DATES LISTED IN THE PACKET ARE ALL THE FIRST WEDNESDAYS OF THE MONTH, UH, FOR 2026. THERE WERE NO CONFLICTS. UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND YOU, I MEAN, WITH HOLIDAYS AS THERE WAS LAST YEAR OR THIS YEAR, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND YOU THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS IN THE PAST DECIDED TO CANCEL THE JULY MEETING, UH, BECAUSE IT IS NORMALLY VERY CLOSE TO THE HOLIDAY. UM, SO, BUT I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO, UH, THE COMMITTEE. UM, I DID ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT IF THERE, IF ANY OF THESE DATES FALL ON A RELIGIOUS HOLIDAY, WE CAN ALSO MOVE IT. UM, SO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO LET ME KNOW ABOUT THAT NOW OR IN A, UH, EMAIL. I MOVE THAT WE CANCEL THE JULY MEETING. I SECOND . SHOULD WE, UH, TAKE A VOTE ON THAT? OH, ARE YOU PROPOSING THAT WE APPROVE THE SCHEDULE? JUST REMOVE THE JULY MEETING? UH, UH, YEAH, I GUESS SO. IS THAT THE PROPER WAY TO DO THAT? YEAH. OKAY, THEN, THEN WE CAN, THEN WE CAN APPROVE EVERYTHING AT ONCE. YEAH. . OKAY. KAREN, DO YOU SECOND THAT? I WOULD SECOND THAT. OKAY. I WOULD, I WOULD ACCEPT THAT. TAKE THAT CONVERSATION. NO. OKAY. WE TAKE THAT TO A VOTE. SO THE VOTE IS GONNA BE THAT WE ARE REMOVING THE JULY 1ST, 2026 MEETING FROM THE MEETING, UH, SCHEDULE. AND WE'RE APPROVING THE MEETING AGENDA WITH THE JULY MEETING REMOVED. CHAIR BRADLEY. AYE. MAY MEMBER BROWN. AYE. MEMBER JOHNSON. AYE. COMMITTEE MEMBER ONE. YES. COMMITTEE MEMBER VICE. AYE. A MEMBER STEIN. AYE. SO KAREN, YOU, YOU MOTION AND THEN KAREN, YOU SECOND IT? MM-HMM . YEAH. OKAY. AND THAT VOTE PASSED. SO THE AGENDA IS CONFIRMED FOR 2026 WITHOUT A MEETING IN JULY, THE CALENDAR. AND IT'LL, IT'LL REMAIN ON THE CALENDAR AND WE'LL JUST CANCEL IT WHEN WE GET OKAY. TO THAT POINT IN JUNE. ANYTHING ELSE ON 2026 AGENDA? OR YOU READY TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT POINT? UH, MARISSA, DID YOU, DID YOU HAVE US ALL ON A CALENDAR? YES. GOOGLE THING OR WHATEVER. I'LL SEND OUT MEETING, UH, INVITES FOR ALL OF THOSE DATES. OKAY. SO JUST AUTOMATICALLY GOES ON AGAIN. YEAH. COOL. THANKS. OKAY. SO MOVING ON TO 4.4 BEAU BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE 2026, WORK PLAN DISCUSSION. PASS OVER TO MARISSA AGAIN FOR THAT. SURE, SURE. SO I'VE DRAFTED THE WORK PLAN, VERY SIMILAR, 25. UM, THE ONLY THING THAT I DO WANNA DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO IS, UH, THE PRAYER ACCOMPLISHMENTS, UH, ARE THE SAME FOR 2024. SO I WAS GONNA LEAVE IT UP TO YOU GUYS, UH, AS TO WHAT YOU WANTED TO PUT IN THERE, UM, OR WHAT'S BEEN DONE IN THE PAST YEAR. SO DO YOU WANNA GO THROUGH LINE BY LINE, UH, FOR EACH OF THE TASKS? YEAH. OKAY. SO START FROM THE TOP. SO, UH, 0.1, BEAUTIFICATION AWARDS. YEAH. KEEP ON THE AGENDA. COULD I, I ASK OR SORRY, KEEP ON THE WORK PLAN. YEAH. COULD I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THAT? YEAH, YEAH. UH, IN, IN HERE IT JUST SAYS, DEVELOP CRITERIA FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE AWARD. SHOULD THAT BE FOR BOTH OF THE, THE AWARDS, BOTH OF THE, THE BEAUTIFICATION AWARD AND THE COMMUNITY SERVICE AWARD? DIDN'T WE ALREADY DEVELOP THE CRITERIA FOR THE COMMUNITY SERVICE AWARD? YEAH, I THINK, WELL THIS REVIEW, I WOULD SAY REVIEW, UH, YEAH. REVIEW CRITERIA FOR CRITERIA FOR BOTH AWARDS. I, I WOULD SAY AT THE SAME TIME. YEAH. MM-HMM . THAT SOUNDS GOOD. ANY OTHER CHANGES OR DISCUSSION? WHAT'S THE REBATE? AVAILABILITY IT YEAH. PROVIDE OUTREACH STRATEGIES, INCLUDING AROUND THE REBATE AVAILABILITY. WHAT'S THAT? IS THAT, THAT'S FOR LAWN CONVERSION. THERE'S YEAH. A REBATE FROM, OR THERE, THERE WAS, I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE IF IT'S STILL A AVAILABLE, THE WATER STILL HAS ONE. OKAY. THE CITY WAS DOING A REBATE FOR AND, AND ZONE SEVEN. UM, AND CAL WATER, WERE DOING REBATES FOR ANYBODY THAT CONVERTED THEIR LAWN TO SAVE WATER. I SEE. OR [00:45:01] WATER CONSERVATION, UH, EFFORTS. UM, SHOULD WE CHANGE THAT TO REVIEW OUTREACH STRATEGIES? THEN THAT WAY WE CAN SEE IF IT'S STILL AVAILABLE. I, I THINK THAT'S GOOD. UM, THE OTHER QUESTION, AND I JUST WANNA BRING UP HERE TOO, IS THAT WE HAD TWO DIFFERENT DATES FOR THE TWO DIFFERENT AWARDS, BUT MY THOUGHT WAS THAT THAT WAS BECAUSE IT TOOK LONGER TO DEVELOP AT LEAST SOME CRITERIA FOR THE COMMUNITY SERVICE AWARD. SO I'M ASSUMING THAT NEXT YEAR WE'LL, WE'LL DO THEM IN TANDEM. YEAH. I I THINK THAT'S, AND THEN WE CAN JUST PRESENT EVERYTHING AT CITY COUNCIL MEETING. YEAH. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. YEAH. AND I GUESS IT SAYS ON HERE AWARD CEREMONY AT NOVEMBER COUNCIL MEETING, SO WE DON'T NEED TO CHANGE THAT. YEAH. YEAH. MM-HMM. PERFECT. BUT I JUST WANT, WANNA OH YEAH, THAT'S, YEAH. MAKE SURE. YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. EVERYBODY'S SYNC WITH THAT. YEAH. I THINK EVERYTHING'S GOOD FOR ME ON BEAUTIFICATION. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON BEAUTIFICATION AWARDS? MM-HMM. NO. NO. ARBOR DAY, I HAD A SUGGESTION THAT WE ADOPT THE CALIFORNIA ARBOR DAY DATES INSTEAD OF THE NATIONAL DATES BECAUSE, UM, FOR ME ANYWAY, THE END OF APRIL WAS REALLY IMPACTED BY EARTH DAY AND CITY NATURE CHALLENGE AND ARBOR DAY ALL HAPPENING AT ONCE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST WE ADOPT THE MARCH DATES, WHICH ARE BETTER FOR PLANTING ANYWAY. MM-HMM . MM-HMM . WE DID DISCUSS THAT, I WANNA SAY BACK IN FEBRUARY THIS YEAR. MM-HMM . AND, UH, THE CITY IS GOING TO KEEP OUR RECOGNITION THE SAME WITH THE NATIONAL, UH, DATE, UH, FOR TREE CITY USA PURPOSES. AND, UH, YOU GUYS ARE WELCOME TO STILL RECOGNIZE THE STATE PROGRAM, UM, AND COME UP WITH WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT PROGRAM, I WANNA SAY, VERSUS THE CITY WASN'T UNDERSTAND WHY, UM, THE NATIONAL, UH, EXPLAIN WHY YOU HAVE TO STAY WITH THE NATIONAL DAY. SO CITY OF LIVERMORE IS A TREE CITY USA, UH, FOR 31 CONSECUTIVE YEARS. AND THAT'S PART OF THE ARBOR DAY FOUNDATION, WHICH IS RECOGNIZED THROUGH THE YEAH. I AM A MEMBER OF THAT FOUNDATION. OKAY. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY THE CITY WILL CONTINUE TO BE, TO RECOGNIZE THE NATIONAL, BECAUSE WE WANT TO KEEP THAT TREE CITY USA STATUS. YOU MEAN IT WOULD BE JEOPARDIZED IF WE WENT WITH THE CALIFORNIA DATE? UH, YES. YOU HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THE NATIONAL HARBOR DATE. OKAY. THAT'S PART OF THE CORRECT. DIDN'T REALIZE, REALIZE THAT WAS A REQUIREMENT. OKAY. I WANNA SAY, WAS THERE SOME KIND OF CONFLICT WITH THE SCHOOLS TOO? DID WE TALK ABOUT THE LAST TIME THERE WAS, UM, THEY HAD THEIR, UM, SOME SORT OF DAY WEEK OFF OR YEAH, HALF OF THE WEEK WAS OFF THROUGH THAT, THROUGH THAT EARLIER DATE. I THINK THIS YEAR IT'S MARCH 17TH THROUGH THE 14TH. SO THAT WOULD WORK. YEAH. WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR CON THEY HAVE THEIR CONFLICT DURING MARCH OR THEY HAVE THEIR, UH, SCHOOL DAY OR SCHOOL, WHATEVER IT IS DURING THE SEVEN. THAT, WAS IT CONFERENCES. CONFERENCES OR SOMETHING. THERE'S CONFERENCES WHEN THEY HAVE EARLY RELEASE DAY AND ELEMENTARY FOR THE ENTIRE WEEK. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHY THAT WOULD'VE BEEN, WE'D HAVE TO CHECK. RIGHT. WELL, BECAUSE I THINK WITH THE ACTIVITIES GOING ON THAT WEEK, 'CAUSE THEY WERE GETTING OUT EARLY, I DON'T THINK THEY WANTED TO COMMIT TO ANYTHING. OKAY. WELL, WE COULD DO SOME MORE INVESTIGATION ON THE, I THINK IT WOULD BE SCHOOL. I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE IT'S A BETTER TIME OF THE YEAR. THAT'S MY, MY HUMBLE. YEAH. THERE ISN'T THAT MUCH WE'RE DOING IN MARCH IN FEBRUARY TO LEAD UP TO THAT. YEAH. SO ANYWAY, UM, DO WE NEED TO ESTABLISH THAT AT THIS MEETING OR CAN WE DO A LITTLE MORE RESEARCH ON THE SCHOOL CALENDARS? UH, YOU COULD DEFINITELY BRING IT BACK AT A, A SUBSEQUENT MEETING, UM, AND DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT TO, UH, DIVIDE UP FOR THESE TASKS AND RECOGNIZE FOR THE STATE. BRING IT UP IN MATTERS AT THE END OF THIS MEETING. AND YOU CAN PROPOSE THAT FOR A FUTURE MEETING, CHANGING THAT DATE. BUT IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE A CHANGE TO THE WORK PLAN. 'CAUSE WE'RE STILL GONNA, WELL, IT SAYS CREATE RECOGNITION FOR CALIFORNIA ALREADY ON HERE. MM-HMM . YEAH. FOR MARCH 7TH MM-HMM . OKAY. BUT THE TREE PLANTING WOULD BE IN APRIL. YES. WITH THE CITY. OKAY. BUT THERE COULD BE OTHER PLANTINGS. YEAH, WE CAN DO OTHER THINGS IN MARCH. OKAY. SO ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE ARBOR DAY ENTRY HERE AT THIS [00:50:01] TIME? NO, I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK IT'S, IT'S ALREADY LISTED ON THERE, SO YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO COMMUNITY SERVICE DAY. SO WE WOULD ANNOUNCE A PLAN IN JUNE, AND THEN THE ACTUAL DATE FOR THE WHOLE CITY IS SEPTEMBER 20TH. I THINK THAT'S, UH, THAT WHAT THAT IMPLIES. YEAH. YEAH. UHHUH WE DISCUSSED AT THE JUNE MEETING. IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S GOOD. PROVIDE INPUT TO STAFF ON PLANNED PROJECTS, UM, AND ACTIVELY SEEK VOLUNTEERS. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING MUCH MORE WE NEED TO ADD ON THAT. NO, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR. OKAY. MOVING ON TO IDENTIFY GRANT OPPORTUNITIES. THIS WAS EDITED IN CASE YOU GUYS WERE ABLE TO DO SOME RESEARCH AND FIND OTHER, UH, GRANTS THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE FOR, UH, THE THINGS YOU'D LIKE TO PURSUE FOR THE WORK PLAN. SO, SO IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT? IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT, NO. IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT. BUT IF SOMETHING WAS TO COME UP THAT WE COULD THEN BRING IT UP IN A MEETING. YES. SO IT'S WORTH LEAVING IN. YEAH. MM-HMM . I, I THINK SO. YEAH. OKAY. LEAVE THAT ONE IN. OKAY. COMMUNITY OUTREACH. UM, YEAH. I HAD AN A NOTICE ABOUT, UH, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT CITY NATURE CHALLENGE THIS LAST YEAR. IT WAS, UM, HOSTED BY TRI-VALLEY CONSERVANCY IN THAT THEY PROVIDED A LANDING PAGE ON THEIR WEBSITE AND SUPPORT WITH COMMUNICATIONS AND OUTREACH. UM, THEY DO NOT WANT TO BE AS INVOLVED THIS COMING YEAR. AND, UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT AMOUNT OF CITY SUPPORT CAN WE GET? MANY OF THESE CITY NATURE CHALLENGE PROJECTS AROUND THE WORLD ARE HOSTED BY THE CITY. AND SO I THINK WE'RE, UH, DEFINITELY IN A GREAT POSITION WHERE WE'VE HAD A YEAR WHERE WE LAUNCHED THE, UM, THE NATURE CHALLENGE THIS LAST YEAR. WE HAD GOOD PARTICIPATION. WE HAD, UM, WHAT PROBABLY AROUND EIGHT DIFFERENT GUIDED OUTINGS IN COORDINATION WITH OTHER AGENCIES SUCH AS, UM, EAST BAY REGIONAL PARKS. HAD SOME L-A-R-P-D HAD SOME, I DID SOME AS A TRI-VALLEY CONSERVANCY EDUCATOR. SO IT REALLY ENGAGED OTHER NONPROFITS IN THE AREA TO OFFER, UH, COMMUNITY EVENTS. SO I THINK ALL THE CITY REALLY NEEDS TO DO IS BE WILLING TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SOME KIND OF A LANDING PAGE. UM, I AM, I'VE ALREADY PROVIDED MY NAME, AN EMAIL FOR THE MAIN CONTACT FOR THE NEXT YEAR'S CHALLENGE, JUST AS A PLACEHOLDER. UM, AND SINCE I'VE BEEN INVOLVED, YOU KNOW, I, I COULD BE THE CONDUIT, BUT I'M DOING THAT AS SIMPLY AN INDIVIDUAL NOW, NOT AS, UM, A PERSON WITH TRI-VALLEY CONSERVANCY OR THE CITY OF LIVERMORE. BUT IF WE WERE ABLE TO GET SOME KIND OF CITY SUPPORT, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO WOULD I TALK TO ABOUT THAT. AND IF OUR COMMITTEE IS INTERESTED, UM, IN CASE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, IT'S BASICALLY CITIZEN SCIENCE USING AN APP CALLED INATURALIST TO GO OUT AND OBSERVE AND DOCUMENT ANYTHING IN THE WILD IN OUR CITY. SO BIRDS, PLANTS, TREES, ANIMALS, INSECTS, EVERYTHING. UM, AND IT REALLY GETS THE, THE, UM, PARTICIPANTS EXCITED AND VERY AWARE OF THE DIVERSITY, THE BIODIVERSITY RIGHT HERE IN OUR OWN TOWN, IN OUR BACKYARDS, OUR CITY PARK PARKS, ET CETERA. SO I THINK IT'S A BIG WIN FOR OUR CITY TO BE INVOLVED AND TO PARTICIPATE AS A CITY WITH MANY HUNDREDS OF OTHERS. HOWEVER, WE WILL BE FOLDED UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF THE BAY AREA WHEN IT COMES TO TABULATING NUMBERS OF OBSERVATIONS. UM, BECAUSE WE'RE WITHIN THAT BAY AREA REGION. THAT'S HOW WE SHOW UP ON THEIR GLOBAL WEBSITE. BUT WE CAN ALWAYS DISAGGREGATE AND GET LIVERMORE SPECIFIC DATA FROM THE PROJECT. IT'S ALL GPS BASED WHERE YOU MAKE YOUR OBSERVATIONS. SO WE CAN'T DISCUSS SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO 'CAUSE WE'RE ON WORK PLAN, BUT WE COULD CHANGE IT TO, WE COULD CHANGE IT TO, INSTEAD OF PARTICIPATE, WE COULD CHANGE IT TO DISCUSS COMMITTEE AND CITY INVOLVEMENT IN CITY NATURE CHALLENGE. MM-HMM . YEAH. AND THEN, WE'LL, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AS WELL AS PARTICIPATE AS A COMMITTEE. YEAH. IN THE CITY NATURE CHALLENGE, DISCUSS COMMITTEE CITY PARTICIPATION IN CITY NATURE CHALLENGE. YEAH. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE [00:55:01] MECHANICS ARE TO GET IT AS AN OFFICIAL, YOU KNOW, LIKE CITY ADOPTED YEAH. EVENT, LIKE, SAY COMMUNITY SERVICE DAY. IT'S, I WOULD SEE IT'S SOMEWHAT EQUIVALENT TO THAT. OKAY. WHEN SHOULD WE BE DISCUSSING? YEAH. THAT, BECAUSE IT HAPPENS IN WHEN? APRIL. APRIL, THE END OF APRIL. IT'S ON HERE FOR SPRING. YEAH. IT'S, IT'S A FOUR DAY WINDOW. LIKE APRIL 24TH THROUGH THE 28TH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT WE NEED TO DISCUSS IT BEFORE APRIL. OH YEAH. YEAH. WE WANNA, WE WANNA BE PROMOTING IT. SO AT LEAST A COUPLE MONTHS IN ADVANCE. SO WHAT WE'D HAVE TO DO IS WE COULD CHANGE THAT IN THE WORK PLAN AND THEN YOU'D HAVE TO BRING IT UP IN MATTERS TO BRING IT UP IN A MEETING, A FUTURE MEETING. RIGHT. SO JANUARY MAYBE. YEAH. YEAH. JANUARY. AND THEN THAT COULD GIVE YOU STAFF TIME TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE PROCEDURE IF WE WANNA MAKE IT A CITY EVENT. OKAY. BUT JUST MAKE A NOTE TO BRING IT UP AT THE END. IT MATTERS. YES. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO WE'RE GONNA CHANGE THAT TO DISCUSS COMMITTEE SLASH CITY INVOLVEMENT AND PARTICIPATION IN CITY NATURE CHALLENGE. GOT IT. PERFECT. ANYTHING ELSE ON COMMUNITY OUTREACH? UM, MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING COMING UP ABOUT HOLIDAY DISPLAYS IN ANOTHER. WE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE THAT THIS MEETING. IT'S DECEMBER TOO. WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT AFTER THIS. SO, YEAH. 'CAUSE I THINK WE WERE DISCUSSED CRITERIA AND ALL THAT. SO THAT'S COMING UP. YEAH. SO IS THAT ENOUGH TO JUST HAVE RECOGNIZE HOLIDAY DISPLAYS FOR NOW IN THE WORK PLAN? YEAH, BUT WE, IT'S NOT, NOT VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN OR, BUT WE ALSO HAVE ESTABLISHED CRITERIA. OH, RECOGNITION OF HOLIDAY DISPLAYS WAS THE, AND THIS WAS IN OUR CURRENT, OUR 2025. SO WE ACTUALLY DIDN'T DO THAT CORRECT, BECAUSE I DON'T RECALL THAT WE WE'RE DOING IT TONIGHT, BUT OH, BUT OCTOBER THAT IT'S SET FOR OCTOBER. THAT'S WHY I WAS CURIOUS OH, OKAY. THAT WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE CRITERIA. YEAH, WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT. THAT, THAT, THAT WAS JUST, I WANNA SAY WE PUSHED IT. DID WE PUSH IT? MAYBE. I DON'T KNOW, BUT WE'RE LIKE OUT OF SYNC. HMM. MIGHT HAVE BEEN BECAUSE OF THAT TREE. YEAH. YEAH. BUT WE WANT TO KEEP EVERYTHING ON THERE, RIGHT? MM-HMM . SURE. OKAY. EXCEPT WE WANNA CHANGE SPRING TO, UH, JANUARY. OH, YEAH. OKAY. WILL WE STILL NEED TO ESTABLISH CRITERIA NEXT YEAR FOR THE HOLIDAY DISPLAYS? MAYBE REVIEW CRI REVIEW CRITERIA SINCE WE'RE SETTING IT TONIGHT? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING? ? YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. NOW THAT WE'VE ALL HAD A GOOD LOOK AT ALL THESE DISPLAYS, UM, TURF REDUCTION PROJECTS AS NEEDED, KEEP IT IN THE WORK PLAN. HMM. YEAH, I THINK WE, OH, I WAS GONNA ADD THAT. UM, AND MAYBE THIS WOULD BE A MATTERS, BUT MANY OTHER, WELL, THE REASON I DID, WELL, I GOT A LOT OF HELP SHEET BELCHING BY HAVING IT BE PART OF A WORKSHOP, UM, THAT, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHO SPONSORED IT. BUT, BUT MANY JURISDICTIONS HAVE SPONSORED WORKSHOPS ON HOW TO SHEET MULCH, WHICH IS THE FIRST STEP FOR LAWN REPLACEMENT. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT THING TO OFFER OUR COMMUNITY. AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, I'VE NEVER SEEN IT PROMOTED SINCE THAT YEAR THAT I DID MINE. WHICH WAS LIKE, WHAT, 2013? THAT WOULD BE COVERED, I THINK UNDER LEADING LEAD VOLUNTEER EFFORTS. BUT YEAH, IF YOU WANNA DISCUSS IT, YOU'D HAVE TO BRING IT UP SO IT COULD THEN IT MATTERS. BE A DEMO PROJECT ON A CITY PROPERTY THAT'S GOING TO BE CONVERTED FROM LAWN OR IT COULD HAPPEN ON A, A RESIDENCE PROPERTY. PEOPLE COULD APPLY TO HOST THE WORKSHOP AT THEIR HOME ON A FRONT LAWN. SO IT'S VERY VISIBLE, WHICH IS WHAT WE DID. UM, AND THAT WAY THE PARTICIPANTS LEARN HOW TO DO IT. THE PROPERTY OWNER GETS IT ALL SHEET MULCHED AND THE CITY IS SEEN AS A PARTNER FOR THE COMMUNITY IN LEARNING HOW TO DO THIS AND PROVIDING MAYBE THE COMPOST, FOR EXAMPLE, PROVIDE FEEDBACK. SO THE CITY IS PLANNING, UH, I THINK, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO [01:00:01] THE MAIN AGENCY IS, BUT IT'S WITH, UH, NOT BAY FRIENDLY, BUT GATE CALIFORNIA. OH, SCAPE. YEAH. YEAH. AND SO WE'RE GONNA BE PLANNING ONE AT MADERA PARK IN THE, KIND OF, IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA BY THE FOOD STORE. AND THEN I BELIEVE THERE'S TWO YEARS AGO, WE ACTUALLY DID THAT ON A SUNDAY HERE AT THE FIFTH STREET PARK. UM, AND THEY CAME, DID A PRESENTATION. WE HAD VOLUNTEERS COME THAT WAS A WHOLE SHEET MULCH. OKAY. SO I MISSED IT. BUT THEY STOP WASTE. THEY HAVE HAPPENED. STOP WASTE. YEAH. YEAH. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A SEVERAL A YEAR IF POSSIBLE. IF WE HAVE ENOUGH PROPERTIES. AND IF WE DON'T, MAYBE THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN HAVE A, A PROPERTY OWNER HOSTED. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE TIME FOR SEVERAL . YEAH. I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CITY CAN COMMIT TO, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY PROBABLY SOMETHING YOU GUYS CAN DISCUSS AS A COMMITTEE IN ONE OF THE MEETING. DID YOU WANNA WE PUT THAT ON A, UM, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANOTHER POINT ON HERE? AS NEEDED AS, YEAH, IT'S AS NEEDED. SO WE CAN BRING IT UP. MM-HMM . YOU CAN BRING IT UP ANYTIME A MONTH IN ADVANCE YEAH. OF WHEN YOU WIN IT. YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN, IDEALLY, AND KAT, YOU CAN WEIGH IN ON THAT. IS, IS THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO SHEET MULCH, YOU WANT TO GET THE REINS ON IT AND HOW THAT'LL HELP SPEED THE DECOMPOSITION OF THE TURF AND THE CARDBOARD AND ALL THAT. SO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, HAVING IT LIKE IN AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, UM, OCTOBER BEFORE THE RAINY SEASON. KAT, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT ON THAT? UM, MY ONLY COMMENT IS THAT EACH ONE THAT I'VE LED OR HELD, UM, IT DOES TAKE A LOT OF COORDINATION AND VOLUNTEER EFFORT AND TOOLS. SO, UM, LIKE YOU GAVE ME A BRAIN FREEZE WHEN YOU SAID SEVERAL , BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IF I WAS HOSTING IT, IF, AND SEES, AND I THINK IT'S WAIVERS. YEAH. I THINK IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY APPEALING. UM, BUT I'VE VOLUNTEERED TO HELP . THANK YOU. SO DO WE WANT TO, UM, INSTEAD OF AS NEEDED, PUT A TARGET MONTH TO TALK ABOUT THIS? I MEAN, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING PLANNED YET FOR THIS COMING YEAR? WE HAVE, I, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATES, BUT IT'S PLANNED FOR THE SPRING. OKAY. AT MADEIRA PARK? AT MADEIRA? YEAH. I, I THINK IT, I THINK IF YOU SET A DATE, IT LIMITS US MORE MM-HMM . WHEREAS YOU LEAVE IT AS NEEDED, WE COULD BRING IT UP ANYTIME WE WANTED TO. MM-HMM . SO THERE'S MORE FREEDOM WITH AN AS NEEDED. YES. OKAY. WELL JUST AS LONG AS WE KNOW AT LEAST A MONTH OUT OF THAT PROJECT, AND WE THEN IF WE CAN HELP EITHER VOLUNTEER HELP WITH COORDINATION, HELP PROMOTE IT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. SO WHAT DO YOU WANNA SAY ON THE WORK PLAN? COORDINATE SHEET MULCHING, VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES, UM, COLLABORATE WITH PUBLIC WORKS WELL LEAD VOLUNTEER EFFORTS IS ON HERE. UM, I WOULD JUST SAY PROVIDE PROMOTIONAL OUTREACH OR SOMETHING MAYBE FOR SHEET FOR TURF REDUCTION OR FOR, YEAH. OKAY. WHAT, WHAT HAS BEEN THE PARTICIPATION IN PAST SHEET MULCHING WORKSHOPS? WE PROBABLY HAD 30 OR 35 AT THE ONE ON FIFTH STREET. UH, THEY DID ONE ON COMMUNITY SERVICE DAY LAST YEAR. THE YEAR BEFORE THAT WAS IN SPRINGTOWN. I WANNA SAY MAYBE THEY HAD 20 OR 25 SHOW UP THAT DAY, BUT THAT WAS ON COMMUNITY SERVICE DAY. SO IT WAS WORTH A YEAH. PROJECTS, BUT IT WAS STILL, UM, I THINK THE COMMUNITY SERVICE DAY IS, IS I THINK, THE BEST TIME TO DO ANY OF THOSE KIND OF THINGS. IT'S ALL CONSOLIDATED IN ONE DAY. YOU HAVE A HUNDRED VOLUNTEERS YOU CAN DISPERSE THEM WITH. TOOLS ARE ALL READY TO GO. IT'S, IT'S HARD TO HAVE THE LOAN OFFS. WE HAD A, WE HAD A PROJECT THAT WE DIDN'T GET SIGNUPS FOR IT THIS YEAR. IT WAS ACTUALLY ON OVER AT NORTH LIVERMORE AND, UH, IDENTIFIED TWO TURF AREAS THAT WE WANTED TO CONVERT, BUT WE DIDN'T GIVE ANY, SO. HMM. YEAH. SO MAYBE SIGNUPS WERE HELP THIS YEAR. WHAT'S THAT? AT LEAST WHEN I LOOKED AT THE SIGNUPS, THEY WERE WEIRD THIS YEAR. EVERY SINGLE SIGNUP HAD THE EXACT SAME DESCRIPTION AND IT WAS LIKE, WAS THAT A COMMUNITY SERVICE DAY PROJECT WE'RE DOING? OH, I MEAN, I JUST SIGNED UP FOR ONE BECAUSE I, IT WAS CLOSE, YOU KNOW, TO YEAH. WHERE I LIVED. WHEN WAS THE ONE ON FIFTH? THAT WAS LIKE MARCH, APRIL. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT TIME OF YEAR IT WAS. I JUST REMEMBER IT WAS ON A SUNDAY. THAT WAS, YEAH. IT'S A PRETTY GOOD, PRETTY GOOD TURNOUT FOR THAT ONE. THAT WAS GOOD TURNOUT. , THE ONE I DID AT MY HOUSE, WE PEOPLE BROUGHT THEIR OWN WHEELBARROWS AND SHOVELS. IS THAT HOW THE CITY ONES WORK TOO? DO PEOPLE BRING THEIR OWN TOOLS? NO, I THINK THEY, YEAH, THEY CAN, BUT THE CITY ALSO PROVIDED A LOT OF TOOLS. YEAH. IT'S LIKE A MIX. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN MOVING ON TO [01:05:01] THE NEXT ONE, LANDSCAPING CLIMATE PROJECTS. YEAH. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SIMILAR, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR, UM, SUPPORTING OUR DEMONSTRATION NATIVE GARDENS AND OR CONVERTING CITY TURF TO A NATIVE DEMO GARDEN. UM, UM, SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP EXPLORING. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S SPECIFICALLY ON HERE FOR, IT NEEDS TO BE, IT WOULD MAYBE FALL UNDER REVIEW PLANT LIST, GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE AND STREETSCAPE INSTALLATIONS. YEAH. OR THE TOP ONE CITY OWNED CONTROL PROPERTY PROJECTS. THAT'S ONLY FEEDBACK AS OPPOSED TO UM RIGHT. INITIATING. BUT THIS IS, THIS IS THE COMMITTEE'S WORK PLAN. UM, THE, THE CITY HAS SEVERAL, UH, LAWN CONVERSIONS THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT WERE, UH, PUBLISHED. BUT THIS IS OUR SPECIFIC WORK PLAN. WELL, I JUST FEEL LIKE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE PROJECTS ARE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THEM ARE POTENTIALLY A GOOD SITE FOR A NATIVE PLANT DEMO, UH, LOCATION. I THINK LIKE AN EXAMPLE OF THIS WOULD BE LIKE THE CARBON GARDEN, RIGHT? WHERE YOU, THERE WAS KIND OF A LANDSCAPE AND CLIMATE PROJECT. SO THE CARBON GARDEN AND THEN YOU KIND OF BROUGHT IT TO THE COMMITTEE AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE PLANT LIST AND IT'S THAT KIND OF PROJECT, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. THE GRASSES. YOU YEAH. YEAH. DO YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING INTO THAT ONE? OR IT'S GOOD? OH, I JUST WANT TO FEEL LIKE I KNOW MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME KIND OF A CALENDAR OF THESE CONVERSION PROJECTS AND WHAT ARE, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THEM? I JUST FEEL LIKE, I DON'T KNOW. AND, AND I, SO I, IT CAN'T, I CAN'T ONLY PROVIDE INPUT OR IDEAS AND WITHOUT KNOWING , THOSE DESIGNS WERE CREATED, I DON'T KNOW, A COUPLE YEARS AGO. AND WE JUST HADN'T HAD THE TIME TO IMPLEMENT THEM. AND SO THERE WASN'T AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE DESIGNS TO BE REVIEWED BY THE BC BECAUSE IT, IT WAS MAYBE EVEN PREDATING THIS WORK PLAN. UH, WHICH DESIGNS THE, THERE'S A TURF REDUCTION HAPPENING AT A COUPLE DIFFERENT SITES. OKAY. STARTING NEXT YEAR. THOSE, BUT THE DESIGNS WERE ALREADY CREATED. THE DESIGNS ARE NEEDED. PLANTING PLANS DO THE YES. YEAH. UHHUH, WE JUST NEEDED SOMEONE TO DO THE ACTUAL WORK. DO WE KNOW IF THEY'RE NATIVES IN THOSE PLANTING PLANTS OR, UH, THERE'S NOT, I DON'T KNOW. OH, . AND THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY TO REVISE THEM. THE AGREEMENT IS, IS SET WITH THE CONTRACTOR, BUT GOING FORWARD, BECAUSE THOSE WERE ALREADY EXISTING, UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS FOR ANOTHER TUR REDUCTION PROJECT AT THIS TIME. SO FOR FUTURE ONES, THEY WILL, THEY CAN COME HERE. THEY'LL BE BROUGHT TO BC FOR YOUR REVIEW. OKAY. YEAH. SO THAT'S GOOD TO LEAVE AS NEEDED THEN. AND THEN WHEN NEW PROJECTS COME UP, YOU, THE CITY WILL BRING 'EM TO THE COMMITTEE. RIGHT. OKAY. ANY CHANGES TO THAT OR ARE WE MOVING TO LITTER? NOPE. OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ON TO LITTER COLLECTION. ANDY? UM, SEE AFTER THE BROWN ACT PRESENTATION, I'M SCARED TO SAY . WHAT? I CAN AND CANNOT SAY. WELL, WE'RE IN A MEETING. YEAH, WE'RE IN A MEETING. YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT. THE AGENDA'S BEING RECORDED. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. , WHAT, IS THERE ANYTHING HERE THAT NEEDS TO BE MODIFIED? SO JUST THE ITEMS ON THE, ON THE WORK PLAN. IS THERE ANYTHING, ANY POINTS WE NEED TO CHANGE FROM THE WORK PLAN WAS THINKING, I WAS THINKING LIKE, UH, THE LAST POINT. I LIKE IT. BUT, UM, I THINK JUST ESTABLISH FOR NOW, UH, ADOPT A ROAD TRAIL PARK PROGRAM BECAUSE YOU LIKE THE LOGISTICS IN MY OPINION, THERE'S A LOT TO DO. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN LIKE EVEN GET IT LAUNCHED NEXT YEAR, BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. I MEAN, WE CAN LEAVE IT ON THERE. 'CAUSE IT WAS ON THERE THIS YEAR TOO. WE JUST DIDN'T REALLY GET TO IT. YEAH, I THINK SO. IT'S BETTER TO LEAVE IT ON THERE. YEAH. AND THEN IT'S AS NEEDED. SO IF WE HAVE OH YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. IF WE HAVE TIME. UM, IT'S SOMETHING YOU COULD BRING UP. YEAH. ONCE WE GET MAYBE THE SIGNS YEAH. BE THE NEXT LITTER PROJECT. YEAH. STEP BY STEP. YEAH. UM, LET'S SEE HERE. UM, I THINK THAT'S GOOD FOR NOW. UM, MUCH ANYONE ELSE ON LITTER COLLECTION WANTED TO ADD OR CHANGE ANYTHING? [01:10:02] NOPE. OKAY. GRAFFITI ABATEMENT. PROMOTE CITY'S GRAFFITI FIGHTER PROGRAM. ORGANIZE AND PARTICIPATE. ONGOING LEAVE AS IS. MM-HMM . YEAH. GOOD TO LEAVE ON THE WORK PLAN. IT'S AN ONGOING, SO WE CAN ALWAYS BRING IT UP. STREAM RESTORATION AS NEEDED. ASSIST WITH PLANNING EXECUTION OF STREAM RESTORATION PROJECTS. VOLUNTEER AT STREAM RESTORATION PROJECTS. ANOTHER GOOD ONE, I THINK TO LEAVE ON THERE. A STAFF LIAISON WITH LIAISONING. WITH WHO? UH, FOR STREAM RESTORATION. I'M JUST CURIOUS. SO I THINK THAT'S, IF, IF THERE'S A, THERE'S A PROJECT OF STREAM RESTORATION THAT THE CITY IS MADE AWARE OF, YOU'LL RELAY IT TO US. OR IF THERE'S A CITY STREAM RESTORATION PROJECT OR SO FAR THERE HASN'T BEEN WHERE THEY'RE ASKING FOR VOLUNTEERS. IT'S BEEN LIVING ARROYOS THAT I'M AWARE OF DOING THOSE TYPE OF PROJECTS WHERE THEY'RE ASKING FOR VOLUNTEERS LIVING ARROYOS. YEAH. WHICH IS SEEING A-C-R-C-D NOW. WELL, I GUESS BEING IGNORANT IN SOME OF THESE PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON, IF YOU'RE AWARE OF THEM, EVEN IF THE CITY ISN'T DOING THAT, IT WOULD BE USEFUL TO BE MADE TO KNOW ABOUT THESE THINGS. I GUESS THAT'S, THAT'S MY QUESTION. AND I, I DON'T KNOW HOW, EVEN IF IT'S NOT A CITY LED STREAM RESTORATION, IT WOULD JUST BE GOOD FOR OUR COMMITTEE TO KNOW THAT IT'S GOING ON IN CASE WE WANTED TO GET VOLUNTEERS OUT TO HELP WITH IT. OR EVEN JUST TO KNOW IT. YEAH. IT'S HAPPENING. YEAH. YEAH. SO WE DON'T GET A LOT OF NOTIFICATION NOW FROM LIVING ROYALS. WE NEVER REALLY HAVE ANY, THEY'RE KIND OF WORKING WITH ZONE. THEY MORE WORK WITH ZONE SEVEN IN ALAMEDA COUNTY, SO WE WE'RE NOT SUPER AWARE. THEY WORK ALL YEAR LONG ON DIFFERENT MITIGATION PROJECTS AND TREE PLANTINGS ALONG THE CREEK BEDS AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT TIED TOO CLOSE WITH THEM. IT'S A, SO REALLY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEIR PROJECTS ARE. IT'S A SEPARATE AGENCY AND I ONLY KNOW BECAUSE I GET THE EMAILS PERSONALLY. OKAY, YOU CAN SIGN UP TO GET A NEWSLETTER MM-HMM . UM, AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THESE VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES. BUT THEY ARE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. AND YOU HAD MENTIONED I HAD ASKED AT ONE MEETING BECAUSE I, I WAS JUST KIND OF APPALLED BY THE, THE STREAM IN, UH, SPRINGTOWN AND ALL THE, THE, UH, THE SPECIES OF TREES THAT ARE GROWING THERE. AND YOU HAD SAID THAT IT, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO COORDINATE. YEAH. YOU HAVE TO, IT'S A PERMITTED JOB AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT VOLUNTEERS ARE ALLOWED TO HELP WITH. I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO GET A PERMIT THROUGH DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE, DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE WATER TO DO ANY CHANGE IN THERE. MM-HMM . UM, AND IT'S, UH, JUST STAFF AND CONTRACTORS ALLOWED. MAYBE WE CAN APPOINT A COMMITTEE LIAISON TO LIVING ARROYOS WHO GETS THE EMAILS AND CAN THEN REPORT TO THE COMMITTEE IF THERE'S PROJECTS GOING ON. THAT WOULD BE AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS PROJECTS THAT THE CITY IDENTIFIES THAT YOU NEED VOLUNTEERS FOR. I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA, TOM. MM-HMM. THAT'S GREAT. YEAH. SO A APPOINT COMMITTEE, WE CAN JUST DO IT AS NEEDED STILL, BUT APPOINT COMMITTEE LIAISON TO, WHAT'S IT CALLED? LIVING ARROYOS. MM-HMM . YEAH. LIVING ARROYOS. MAYBE WE SHOULD DO THAT EVERY JANUARY OR SOMETHING. JUST, YEAH, JUST KNOWLEDGE. JUST FOR THE YEAR. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. YEAH. SO THE ITEM IS APPOINT A COMMITTEE MEMBER LIAISON TO LIVING ARROYOS. MM-HMM . YEAH. AND THEN THAT COMMITTEE MEMBER CAN THEN, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S PROJECTS COMING UP THAT THEY THINK WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE COMMITTEE TO TAKE PART IN. AND WILL THEY JUST JUST BRING IT UP? BRING IT UP, YEAH. BRING IT UP IN MATTERS AND MM-HMM . WE CAN DISCUSS IT. RIGHT. SO I'M, TOMORROW MORNING I'M GOING UP TO BRUSHY PEAK TO, UM, ASSIST SOME CLASSES THAT ARE DOING A PROJECT WITH POINT BLUE CONSERVATION. AND I DON'T THINK THE COMMUNITY KNOWS ABOUT THIS PROJECT THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR LIKE, THREE YEARS. AND IT JUST OCCURRED TO ME THEY WOULD'VE BEEN A NATURAL. THEY IS WHAT WE'D HAVE TO FIGURE OUT RECOGNIZING THEM AS A COMMUNITY SERVICE AWARD. UM, SO I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT YOU GUYS THINK OF THAT. FOR ONE THING, IT'S AT BRUSHY PEAK, UM, EAST BAY REGIONAL PARK PROPERTY. NOT IN THE CITY OF LIVERMORE. SO, CAN WE RECOGNIZE IT? WELL, I THINK AS A COMMUNITY SERVICE, I THINK WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT. YES. UNDER THE COMMUNITY SERVICE. COMMUNITY SERVICE ITEM. OKAY. BUT YEAH. DOES THAT SOUND LIKE THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD BELONG? YEAH. COMMUNITY SERVICE AWARD SCHOOLS WORKING ON A, YEAH. IF THERE'S ANY, ANYBODY AN OR IF THERE'S ANYTHING RELATED TO COMMUNITY [01:15:01] SERVICE, IF IT'S AN ORGANIZATION, IF YOU WANTED TO BRING IT UP. YEAH. BRING IT UP. AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITY SERVICE AWARDS, ESPECIALLY ABOUT REVIEWING CRITERIA FOR NEXT YEAR. YEAH. YEAH. I THINK THAT WOULD YEAH. BE, UH, A GOOD THING. ALL RIGHT. THE REUSABLE FOOD WARE, UH, PROJECT. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ON THAT. UM, SO I DON'T KNOW, DID WE REMOVE IT? WHAT'S THAT? SHOULD WE REMOVE IT OR, OR CHANGE CHANGE IT TO AS NEEDED OR I GUESS IT ISN'T. OH YEAH. IT IS A AND AS NEEDED, WE COULD LEAVE IT IN, I GUESS. AND THEN IF IT POPS UP NEXT YEAR, IT'S ON THE AGENDA AND WE CAN DISCUSS. SURE. DOES THAT SOUND GOOD TO EVERYONE? YEAH. THREE REPLACEMENT LIST HAS BEEN, I THINK THAT ONE, I THINK THAT ONE'S GOOD TOO. AND THEN WE HAVE IN THERE UPDATE THE LIST ANNUALLY IN OCTOBER. SO WE CAN, WE CAN FORM AN AD HOC COMMITTEE AND RE, YOU KNOW, GO OVER THE LIST AGAIN EVERY YEAR JUST TO SURE. OKAY. YEAH. ANY CHANGES ON THAT ONE? OR ADS OR THAT, THAT LOOKS GOOD TO EVERYONE. OKAY. JUST CURIOUS, DO WE GET VERIFICATION THAT WHEN WE GRANT, UH, REMOVAL OF A HERITAGE TREE, THAT THE REPLACEMENT TREES HAVE BEEN INSTALLED? DO WE, DO YOU, DOES THE CITY GET VERIFICATION OF THAT? THE CITY GETS, WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. MONETARY CAN TALK ABOUT IT AFTER. OH, SINCE THAT'S NOT, IT'D HAVE TO BE A MATTERS. 'CAUSE WE'RE ON AGENDA. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU JOHN. UH, PRIOR YEAR ACCOMPLISHMENTS, BEAUTIFICATION AWARDS, FEEL LIKE, YES, WE COMPLETED THAT. MM-HMM . AND KEEP THAT THE SAME. YEAH. I MEAN, COMMUNITY SERVICE DAY, WE COMPLETED THAT, RIGHT? MM-HMM . COMMUNITY SERVICE DAY. WE DID ARBOR DAY. WE DID. YEAH. BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SAY COMPLETED FOR THREE. IT DOESN'T WHEN DO, WHEN DO WE GET TO SAY THAT THE, UH, TREE LIST HAS BEEN COMPLETED? WELL, WE CAN ADD IT ON NOW, RIGHT? CAN WE ADD IT ON NOW? OR DOES IT HAVE TO, ISN'T IT TIED UP WITH THE, UM, THE ORDINANCE. THE ORDINANCE, YES. AND HAS THE ORDINANCE BEEN APPROVED YET? NO. NO. HAS IT GONE EVEN GONE TO, YEAH. THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT. . WE DID OUR PART, RIGHT? YEAH. RIGHT. CAN WE ACTUALLY SAY COMPLETED HERE? I THINK FOR THE TREE LIST, YES, YOU CAN. OKAY. NOTE THAT. THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED. SO I CAN ADD THAT HERE. OKAY. THE DESCRIPTION OF THESE, UM, SOUND LIKE THEY'RE FROM 2024, RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT THEY NEED TO THEY'RE MEANT TO BE, THEY NEED TO BE UPDATED. BE, OH YEAH. IT'S HERE. WHAT WAS DONE. YES. WHAT WAS DONE OR, SO WE CAN TAKE OUT FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE DAY, WE CAN TAKE TAKEOUT, PROVIDED SUGGESTIONS FOR CARBON GARDEN. 'CAUSE I WAS, WAS THAT, THAT WAS LAST YEAR, RIGHT? YEAH. TIME FLIES ALSO. WE DID NOT PROVIDE TREE RELATED ITEM BAGS FOR STUDENTS. CORRECT. WE DID NOT. NOW THAT YOU BRING THAT UP. I THINK THAT WAS THE ONLY PROJECT THAT WAS DONE THIS LAST JUNE. 25. HUH? WHAT, WHAT CARBON GARDEN? YEAH. WHO WAS HERE FOR THE CARBON GARDEN? WAS THAT 2025 OR IS IT 20? THAT WAS 20. 24. 24. YEAH, BECAUSE 2020. YEAH. THAT WAS 20, 24. TIME FLIES WHEN YOU'RE HAVING FUN COMMITTEE . YEAH. I THINK THAT WAS 2024. CAT. YOU WERE HERE, WASN'T IT? 2024 WASN'T THIS YEAR. I, I, I CANNOT PLACE DATES IN ON MY BRAIN ANYMORE. IT HAPPENED IN IT, IT WAS MM-HMM . YEAH. SO, WELL, FOR ARBOR DAY, WE DID THE, UM, WE DID LITTER PICKING, PLANTING, MULCHING, DID THE TREE AND POETRY AND ARCH TREE AND POETRY EVENT. MY FAVORITE TREE, OH, SORRY. I'M TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITY SERVICE DAY. YEAH. SO THIS ARBOR DAY SHOULD BE UPDATED . AND FOR THE AWARDS, WE SHOULD ADD THAT WE ACTUALLY, UH, CREATED A NEW AWARD AS WELL. THAT WILL BE, UM, YEAH. CREATED COMMUNITY SERVICE AWARD. YEAH. CREATED HOLIDAY. WHAT ARE WE CALLING IT? OH YEAH. HOLIDAY RECOGNITION. HOLIDAY DECORATION RECOGNITION. HOLIDAY RECOGNITION. HOLIDAY RECOGNITION AWARD. YEAH. AND THEN WE'RE ADDING THE TREE LIST. [01:20:01] WE ARE PRODUCTIVE. I THINK THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE. I KNOW. MM. WE'RE ALMOST NEXT YEAR WE CAN ADD OUR LITTER SIGNS. WE'RE ALMOST THERE. . . YEAH. OKAY. OH BOY. ANYTHING ELSE THAT ANYONE WANTS TO ADD TO ACCOMPLISHMENTS OR ? YEAH. NO. OKAY. ONGOING PROJECTS. RECOMMEND REFORESTATION PROJECTS, PROVIDE INPUT ON CITY IDENTIFIED REFORESTATION PROJECTS. IS THAT EVEN APPLICABLE THIS YEAR? WELL, THAT'S WHY IT'S IN THIS ONGOING SEA, NOT IN THE 2026 WORK PLAN. YEAH. ONGOING. YEAH. ONGOING. BUT NEVER DONE . IF THEY , YEAH, THAT'S GOOD. 'CAUSE WE CAN KEEP PLANNING FOREVER. JUST KEEP, WE CAN KEEP, UH, PROVIDING INPUT. YEAH. I'D LOVE TO SEE A CLIMATE AND ENVIRONMENT TEXTBOOK. THEY HOST TWO IN 2023. UM, BUT WE, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING MORE HAPPENING WITH THOSE, BUT WORTH LEAVING IT ON HERE. CAN KEEP IT ON THERE IN CASE THEY GET BROUGHT BACK. YEAH. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? ONE MORE WANTED TO ADD ONGOING PROJECTS? NO. AND THEN CURRENT AD HOC COMMITTEES. WE HAVE ARBOR DAY 2026. WE ALSO HAVE A NATIVE PLANT AD HOC COMMITTEE. CORRECT. THAT'S SUNSETTED. THAT'S SUNSETTED. SUNSETTED. MM-HMM . OKAY. DIED OF SUNSET STORM. OH, IT DOESN'T COUNT FOR US PROBABLY, RIGHT. THAT, THAT, UM, WHAT, WHAT HA THE CONCLUSION OF THE WINE BARREL THING. DID THAT, THAT KIND OF WENT THROUGH US AND THEN AWAY FROM US. AND SHOULD WE ADD THAT TO ONGOING PROJECTS? MAYBE , I MIGHT DEFER TO JOE ON THIS ONE BARREL ON L STREET , BECAUSE I, BECAUSE, UH, ON NORTHMORE, I AM STILL IN CONTACT WITH, UH, BRANDY AT, UM, SO I MEAN, WE COULD PUT IT ON ONGOING AND THEN IF IT DOESN'T, IF IF THERE'S NO PROGRESS IN 26, WE COULD REMOVE IT. YEAH. MULTIPLE APARTMENTS ARE LOOKING AT THAT RIGHT NOW TO THE BEST AVENUE FOR THAT. SO THEY'RE CONDUCTING RESEARCH, LOOKING AT A HISTORY OF WINE BARREL, POSSIBLE RESTORATION, AND DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR MOVING IT TO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AS WELL. HMM. SO, UH, ONCE THAT'S DETERMINED. SO NOTHING NEEDED FROM US. UM, AT THIS POINT THERE'S NOT, BUT IF THERE'S AN ELEMENT OF, UH, PLANTING OR WHAT SHOULD GO IN PLACE OF THAT, WE CAN BRING THAT TO, UH, PC FOR CONSIDERATION. WELL, I THINK, I THINK THE WINE GROWERS ASSOCIATION WAS DEFINITELY INTERESTED IN KEEPING IT THERE, BUT, AND THE HERITAGE GUILD AND THE HERITAGE GUILD AS WELL. THE, THE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, I, WHEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE HISTORY, I THOUGHT THAT WE HAD PROVIDED SOME OF THE HISTORY FOR THAT AS FAR AS WHAT THE HISTORY OF THE WINE BARREL WAS FROM KING CANNON. YEAH. SO TO FURTHER EXPAND ON THAT, UH, THE PLANNING DIVISION WAS LOOKING INTO A HISTORICAL DESIGNATION OF THAT. AND THEY HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE HERITAGE GUILD AND, UM, OTHER ORGANIZATIONS LOCALLY AS WELL. SO, SHOULD WE PUT IT ON HERE IN CASE IT COMES UP IN 26? OR ARE WE A LONG WAY OUT? YEAH. MAYBE IT'S NOT OUR THING ANYMORE, BUT ARE WE ALLOWED, IF IT'S NOT ON HERE UNDER ONGOING PROJECTS, ARE WE ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT IT IN MEETINGS? IF IT GETS BROUGHT UP, WE CAN. OKAY. WE JUST BRING IT UP. IT MATTERS AND PROPOSE IT FOR FUTURE MEETING. OKAY. THAT'S CORRECT. IF IT OKAY. IF IT, SO IT DOESNT NEED TO GO ON THERE, RIGHT? IF IT'S NOT IZED FOR ANY TOPIC, UM, YOU'D WANNA BRING THAT UP DURING MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION. OKAY. WE COULD JUST DO THAT THEN. MM-HMM . HERE. OKAY. THEN WE ONLY HAVE THE ONE, THE ONE COMMITTEE ESTABLISHED THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ESTABLISHED RIGHT NOW, JUST FOR ARBOR DAY. OKAY. SO WHEN WOULD WE ESTABLISH ANY NEW COMMITTEES AS THEY COME UP ON THE WORK PLAN? I THINK OKAY. SO IN JANUARY WE MAY WANNA START A NEW COMMITTEE. YES. YEAH. THAT'S ON THE AGENDA, RIGHT? MM-HMM . OKAY. ALRIGHT. ANY, ANY OTHER FEEDBACK, INPUT, THOUGHTS ON THE, THE WORK PLAN FOR 2026 BEFORE WE MOVE ON? OKAY. DO WE BRING ON, DO WE NEED TO VOTE TO APPROVE IT OR ANYTHING? NO, WE DON'T NEED TO VOTE TO APPROVE THAT. OKAY. [01:25:01] UM, OKAY. MOVING ON TO 4.5. RECEIVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDED SIGNAGE TO HELP PREVENT ILLEGAL LUMPING LIVERMORE OVER TO MARISSA AGAIN. MM-HMM . RIGHT? SO, WOO. HI. OH, THAT'S GREAT. THIS IS A MOCK UP. THIS IS ON CHLORO CHLOROPLAST . UH, JUST FOR DISPLAY PURPOSES ONLY, UH, WE MET WITH OUR OUTREACH, UH, STAFF MEMBER AND OUR STREET SUPERVISOR, UM, TO SORT OF TAKE WHAT YOU GUYS HAD RECOMMENDED AND MAKE IT WORK, UH, WITH OUR MUNICIPAL CODE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, OPERATIONS. UH, WE DID FIND OUT THAT QR CODES ARE NOT PRINTABLE. YEAH. OH. UH, BECAUSE THEY DON'T WORK IF ONE LITTLE BIT OF IT, UH, YEAH. YEAH. SO, WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE. UM, OUR OUTREACH, UH, STAFF MEMBER CREATED THIS, UH, SHORT URLI THINK IT'S CALLED. MM-HMM. TINY TY. YEAH. . AND SO, UH, WHEN PEOPLE GO TO THIS WEBSITE, UH, IT WILL STILL PROVIDE ANALYTICS ON THAT, UH, AND IT WILL REDIRECT TO THE REAL PAGE, UM, THAT WE DIRECT IT TO. COOL. YES. UM, SO THAT'S EXCITING AND I LOVE IT. GREAT. LOOKS GOOD. CAN YOU SIGN THAT ONE, ANDY ? THAT'D BE KIND OF COOL. CAN ALL SIGN THE BOOK? CAN WE, CAN WE, HOW ABOUT A PICTURE? ? YOU GOTTA POST THAT ACTUALLY, TECHNICALLY GRAFFITI THAT BECOMES PART OF THE GRAFFITI ABATEMENT. GRAFFITI ABATEMENT. IT'S IN THE WORK PLAN. ON THE WORK PLAN. , UH, IF YOU GUYS, UH, UM, ARE GOOD WITH THIS, I CAN DONATE THIS TO ANDY. I'M TOTALLY OKAY WITH THAT. WE'LL PUT THE REAL ONES OUT. I DON'T HAVE A TIMEFRAME FOR THE, YOU CAN PUT IT IN YOUR NEW APARTMENT. . YOU COULD PUT IT BY YOUR TRASH CANS IN YOUR APARTMENT BUILDING. . I WILL. THIS. GOOD JOB, ANDY. CLOSE THIS. YEAH. BRAVO. I'LL SLEEP WITH THIS NIGHT. , DO WE NEED TO VOTE AS A COMMITTEE ON THAT FINAL DESIGN OR, BECAUSE WE WERE JUST PROVIDING IT TO OKAY, GUYS. YEAH. NO, REALLY HAPPY WITH THAT. GOOD JOB. NICE. GREAT. WHAT IS IT? REFLECTIVE, EVEN REFLECTIVE? THIS IS NOT THE LIKE FOAM BOARD. NO. IT'S A MOCK UP ON I LOVE IT. I LOVE IT. THAT'S IT'S A NEAT MATERIAL. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. ALL RIGHT. LIKE TWO QUICK FEEDBACKS. SURE. UM, I LIKE, I LIKE THE PLACEMENT OF THE, BE THE PHRASE BE A HERO, NOT DUMPER. IS IT OKAY WE CAN MAKE THAT A LITTLE BIT BIGGER? OR IS THAT THE BIGGEST, THE FONT? IT COULD BE, YEAH. YEAH, I CAN DEFINITELY ASK. YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE, YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE WE STILL GOT SOME, YEAH. 'CAUSE WE STILL GOT SOME SPACE. I WAS JUST WONDERING. YEAH. EVEN IF IT'S JUST THE BE A HERO IN A LITTLE BIT LARGER LETTERS. YEAH. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. I LIKE, UH, GRAPHICALLY. I LIKE THESE THINGS BEING LINED UP. THAT'S APPEALING, RIGHT? YES. MM-HMM . MAYBE THAT'S WHY THEY DID IT LIKE THAT. YEAH. YEAH. I WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE CAN MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT BIGGER FOR THE, THE PHRASING. I'LL FIND OUT. YEAH. AND THEN, UM, THE LAST, UM, THE LAST FEEDBACK IS, UM, SO I'VE SEEN OTHER ILLEGAL DUMPING SIGNS. THEY USUALLY HAVE LIKE SOME SORT OF CODE ON THE BOTTOM. LIKE, LIKE, OH, LIKE A MUNICIPAL CODE. YEAH. DO WE NEED THAT ON THIS ONE? NO. TYPICALLY WHEN YOU'RE SEEING, UM, A SIGN THAT'S QUOTING THE MUNICIPAL CODE. YEAH. IT'S REFERRING TO THAT CODE AND THE PENALTY THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S, UM, A FINE BELLIGERENT APPROVAL, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. UM, IF WE HAVE THAT, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR THAT YOU CAN REFERENCE TO THERE? YEAH. ADD THAT TO THE SIGN. YEAH. THE BOTTOM OF IT. I WAS JUST, YEAH, I WAS JUSTING. GOTCHA. LIKE IT CAN BE LIKE REALLY SMALL, RIGHT? HMM. THE FINE PRINT. YEAH. MM-HMM . IT'S KIND OF LIKE TV ADVERTISEMENTS, THE FINE PRINT. NO, I, I, I LOVE IT. AND YOU KNOW, I, I'M GLAD WE REACHED A COMPROMISE. YOU KNOW, I LIKE THIS. UM, IT'S A STRAIGHTFORWARD LINK. I THINK ANYBODY WITH A BRAIN CAN REMEMBER IT. DO NOT DUMP. OKAY. I TAKE THAT BACK. MAYBE , 99% OF PEOPLE . NO, I LOVE IT. I LOVE IT. UM, WHAT'S THE FONT YOU GUYS USE? JUST CURIOUS. BECAUSE I KNOW MOST TIMES THEY'RE LIKE HYPE HIGHWAY GOTHIC OR CLEARVIEW . I DO NOT KNOW THAT. ANNIE. GOTCHA. SORRY. GOTCHA. THAT'S A TECHNICAL QUESTION. YEAH. . MAYBE YOU CAN LIKE GOOGLE IMAGE IT. OH, THAT'S RIGHT. HEY, I COULD CHAT GPT AT TONIGHT. . YEAH. LET US CHAT. GPT. LET US, LET, LET MARISSA KNOW. SHOOT. SO SHE CAN TELL US. I'D BE CURIOUS. WHAT FUN. IT'S . NO, I LOVE IT. [01:30:01] IIII CAN'T WAIT TO DEPLOY. HAVE US DEPLOY THIS . THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR, UH, WORK ON THIS ANDY AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS. THE HARDEST PART WAS THE LOGO . YEAH. THE, THE, WHAT YOU CALL IT, THE ICON BEY. 'CAUSE I'M NOT GOOD AT PHOTOSHOP. I'M GLAD IT LOOK. OH, THAT'S GREAT. DID A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU GUYS. YEAH. THANK YOU MUCH FACILITATING MUCH. I LOVE IT. I LOVE IT. ALRIGHT. UM, SO MOVING ON. 4.6. COOL. DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION REGARDING HOME HOLIDAY DISPLAY. SO THIS WAS A, A PROGRAM THAT THE CITY AND BC HAD DONE BEFORE. UM, I THINK MAYBE IT JUST GOT LOST ONE YEAR. UM, BUT WE'RE, UH, IT, IT INVOLVES THIS, UH, LETTER RIGHT HERE. UH, THAT'S IN THE PACKET WHERE, UM, AND WE'LL HAVE, UH, THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UH, IF YOU GUYS FIND ADDRESSES THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN NOMINATING FOR THE PROGRAM, UM, YOU CAN EMAIL ME AND THEN I'LL COMPILE A LIST AND MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO DUPLICATES. UHHUH, UM, TO RECEIVE THIS LETTER IN JANUARY AFTER THE HOLIDAYS ARE OVER. OKAY. AND DO YOU NEED LIKE A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE DISPLAY OR LIKE, THIS IS FOR THIS SEASON, RIGHT? YEAH, UHHUH. YEAH. SO IT COULD BE, YOU COULD BE ACTIVELY OUT THERE LOOKING, SO IT'S JUST AN ADDRESS IN YAY, YAY YOU KIND OF THING. YOU DON'T NEED ANY VERIFICATION THAT IT DOESN'T SUCK. UM, NO , WE DON'T NEED TO VOTE ON IT AND ALL THAT. SO WE UP TO US TO NOMINATE. IN OTHER WORDS, CAN HOMEOWNERS SELF NOMINATE LIKE WE DO WITH THE BEAUTIFICATION AWARD? OR NEIGHBORS? NOMINATE A NEIGHBOR? NO. THERE, THERE'S NO WAY TO NOMINATE. WE JUST HAVE TO, WE WOULD HAVE TO COMPILE ADDRESSES THAT WE LIKE AND THEN SEND 'EM TO MARISSA AND THEY'LL MAIL OUT LETTERS. SO IF THERE'S A WHOLE STREET, WE JUST PICK ONE ADDRESS OR ALL OF THEM ALL PICK THEM ALL. IS THERE A LIMIT? ? YES. THAT'S GOOD. 'CAUSE OF COURSE IT'S A STAFF TIME, UH, SENDING OUT RESTRICTIONS. THOUSAND FIVE. THAT'S THOUSAND . SHOULD EVERYBODY GETS A RECOGNITION. A LETTER , DO YOU ACTUALLY BOOK UP THE HOMEOWNER ADDRESS? I MEAN NAMES OR YOU JUST SEND IT TO NO, IT TO THE RESIDENT. YEAH. SO THAT'S, SO WHAT IS THE STAFF TIME CONSIST OF REALLY? UM, STUFFING, ENVELOPES, PRINTING AND MAILING. YEAH. RIGHT. MM-HMM . AND COMPILING THE, THE LIST. SO YOU'RE SAYING DON'T BE OBSESSIVE JERKS ABOUT IT. WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, IF WE JUST HAVE TO FIVE, WE HAVE A SPREADSHEET THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. FIVE PER COMMITTEE MEMBERS. ALRIGHT. OKAY. YES. I I WILL SEND THAT OUT. YEAH, IF WE, ONCE I HEAR SPREAD SPREAD YOU, WE CAN SEE WHO EACH OTHER ARE NOMINATED. WELL, SHE'LL DOUBLE. SHE'LL DOUBLE CHECK IT. I'LL BE THE QC. OKAY. WELL I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOME GEOGRAPHIC DISTRIBUTION. LIKE IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY IN NORTH LIVERMORE THAT'S BEEN NOMINATED, IT WOULD BE NICE. BUT THEY'RE NOT REALLY GONNA KNOW, ARE THEY? NO. OKAY. COULD KNOCK ON THE DOOR AND SAY, I'M NOMINATING YOU FOR, LET'S NOT RICK'S ALL NOMINATE DEACON AND DAVE'S . . YEAH. YEAH. CAN WE, CAN WE PUT A CITY OF LIVERMORE LOGO ON HERE ON THIS LETTER? JUST SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S OFFICIAL FROM THE CITY? LIKE THIS ONE? LIKE THIS? I, I DON'T SEE WHY NOT. THIS, THIS WAS JUST THE DRAFT. PUT IT ON THE BOTTOM OR SOMETHING. OR ON THE TOP OR SOMETHING. GOOD IDEA. YEAH. SOMEBODY MIGHT WANNA FRAME IT. PUT IT ON LETTERHEAD. YEAH, THERE YOU GO. YEAH. ON THE LETTERHEAD. YEAH. IT'S GREAT. BUT KEEP THE BORDER IN THE, YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. SO COMMITTEE MEMBERS FIVE, FIVE ADDRESSES EACH. . YEAH. OH BOY. IS THAT OKAY? WE GOTTA NARROW IT DOWN. OKAY. AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS IT AGAIN IN JANUARY. , UM, HOW THE PROGRAM WENT AND ALL OF THAT. OKAY, GREAT. COOL. DO YOU WANNA SET A DEADLINE OF THE 24TH? YEAH, THAT'S PROBABLY GOOD. AND WE'LL, WE'LL SEND THE LETTER OUT IN EARLY JANUARY TO LET THEM KNOW. OKAY. OKAY. MOVING ON. 4.7 BEAUTIFICATION AWARDS, AD HOC COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WINNERS OF THE 2025 BEAUTIFICATION AWARD FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE. WHO WAS ON THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE? OH, KAREN, KAREN, KAT, ANDY AND KAT. ANDY. UM, I'LL SAY A FEW WORDS AND THEN KAT, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, UH, WE HAVE THREE, UM, NOMINEES AND, UM, ONE OF THEM IS OUR COMMITTEE MEMBER, UM, ANDY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF [01:35:01] WE WANNA PULL THAT OUT AND VOTE ON THAT SEPARATELY. UM, HOW, HOW DO WE WANT TO HANDLE THAT? I THINK YOU AND I SAY YES. OH, WELL, YES. YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO QUESTION. THEREFORE IT SHALL BE YEAH, BECAUSE IT, I THINK 'CAUSE IT'S AN FROM WHAT I, FROM WHAT I GET FROM MOLLY. 'CAUSE IT'S AN AD HOC COMMITTEE. YEAH. UM, AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A FULL COMMITTEE VOTE. THE AD HOC COMMITTEE'S GONNA DECIDE WHO WINS. ANDY CAN NOT BE INCLUDED IN THAT VOTE. AND IT WOULD BE A MAJORITY VOTE AND THERE'S NO FINANCIAL INTEREST. YEAH. SO THAT'S WHAT THE PREVIOUS EMAIL FROM OUR ATTORNEY HAD SAID. MM-HMM . UM, IF THERE'S NO FINANCIAL INTEREST, UM, AND THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO GIANT CHECK. THERE'S ANOTHER ABOUT THIS. YEAH. , THAT'S MY CHECK. UH, ANOTHER PROJECT, UH, OR NOT ANOTHER NOMINEE WAS, UH, EDWARD HUGO. UM, AND, UH, KAT HAD NOMINATED HIM MM-HMM . AND I CERTAINLY FELT THAT THAT THAT WAS QUITE REASONABLE. AND I GO ALONG WITH YES. UH, THERE'S AN ANOTHER PROJECT CALLED THE KINDNESS FLOWER PROJECT, UM, WHICH IS, UM, VOLUNTEERS ARE, UH, PLANTING AND PICKING AND ARRANGING AND DELIVERING FLOWER BOUQUETS TO ORGANIZATIONS AND INDIVIDUALS IN THE TRI-VALLEY. AND WHILE I THINK THIS IS, I THINK CAT AND I DI DIFFERED IN OUR OPINIONS ON THIS, WHILE I THINK IT'S A, A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT, AND I KNOW MANY, MANY OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CRITERIA OF OUR AWARD, IT REALLY LOOKS LIKE THIS INCLUDES MAINTAINING OR IMPROVING PUBLIC PROPERTY OR EDUCATING CITIZENS ABOUT THOSE PUBLIC SPACES WITH THE GOAL OF MAKING THE CITY A MORE BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO LIVE. AND I THINK THEY DELIVER, UH, FLOWERS TO PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS. HMM. AND TO ME, IT'S, YOU WOULDN'T KNOW IT, YOU WOULDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT. I THINK IT'S A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY SERVICE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S REALLY THIS YEAR IN THE SCOPE OF THIS MM-HMM . NOW IF WE WANNA EXPAND THE SCOPE MM-HMM . NEXT YEAR, I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL. I WOULD JUST I AGREE WITH YOU. YEAH. I, I THINK IF YEAH. IF WE LOOK IN THE FUTURE, WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT EXPANDING THE SCOPE TO HOW WE INCLUDE A PROJECT SUCH AS THIS. YEAH. IF WE'RE INTERESTED IN, BECAUSE WE'RE HOW WOULD THIS DIFFER? LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, I WAS THINKING IN MY OWN MIND, YES, IT INVOLVES PLANTS AND VERY NI YOU KNOW RIGHT. FLOWERS. BUT IF SOMEBODY WAS MAKING QUILTS YEAH. AND GIVING THEM TO PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS, I THINK, I THINK IF IT WAS PLANTS THEY WERE DONATING TO PUT IN PEOPLE'S YARDS, MAYBE IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT. DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? OR MAYBE ON CITY PROPERTY RIGHT. OR RIGHT. OR SOMETHING THAT WAS MORE VISIBLE. BUT I THINK IT'S A LOVELY PROJECT OR AN EFFORT AND A WELL THOUGHT OUT ONE AND A KIND ONE. BUT IT'S NOT CLEAR THAT IT REALLY FALLS WITHIN BEAUTIFYING MY RECOMMENDATION. YEAH. I AGREE WITH YOU. WHAT WAS THE, WHO WAS THE OTHER, THE OTHER NOMINEE? OH, MR. HUGO. HUGO. UM, HE'S THE MAN THAT, UM, HE GOES AROUND, UH, I'VE SEEN HIM ON ARROYO AND WETMORE ENDLESSLY MM-HMM . AND HE GOES AROUND PICKING UP GARBAGE, PICKING UP LETTERS. HE IS GOT HIS BAG, HE'S GOT HIS PICKUP TOOL. HE IS GOT A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, REFLECTIVE VEST AND HE SAYS, YOU KNOW, HAVE A BLESSED DAY. HAVE A BLESSED DAY. I PASS HIM. YEAH. YEAH. SO, UM, YEAH, HE'S JUST RELENTLESSLY, TOTALLY OUT THERE. YEP. AND THAT ONE WAS A COOL ONE BECAUSE I FOUND HIM BECAUSE HE WAS AT MY DAUGHTER'S FLAG FOOTBALL GAME IN THE AUDIENCE. AND I SAW HIM SITTING WITH A PARTICULAR FAMILY, AND THEN I, THEN I PIECED IT TOGETHER LATER. AND SO THE NEXT GAME, HE WASN'T THERE, BUT THE FAMILY WAS. SO I WENT UP TO HIM, I'M LIKE, ARE YOU GUYS RELATED TO THE GUY OUT THERE DOING TRASH PICKUP? THEY'RE LIKE, OH YEAH, THAT'S GRANDPA. LIKE, OH, WELL I WANNA NOMINATE HIM. AND THEY WERE LIKE, OH. SO IT WAS REALLY GREAT. GREAT. UM, CAN I ASK, UM, THERE'S NO MENTION HERE OF SCHOOL PROJECTS. IS IT ASSUMED THAT THEY'RE IN PUBLIC SPACE OR, OR SHOULD WE MAKE A SEPARATE SCHOOL PROJECT? UH, AWARD, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF GOING ON ON THE SCHOOL CAMPUSES AND, AND I WAS, I'M SORRY IT WAS NOT ON THE BALL TO NOMINATE ANY OF THEM, BUT MAYBE PEOPLE WOULDN'T THINK OF THAT UNLESS WE MAYBE SHOULD CALL OUT MORE SPECIFICALLY. WE WOULD ACCEPT SCHOOL PROJECTS. WELL, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, ARE SCHOOLS, ARE SCHOOLS CONSIDERED PUBLIC SPACES? YOU'RE ASKING ME? THEY'RE PUBLIC SCHOOLS. NO. I, I WE'RE ENCOURAGING JUST LIKE A BACKYARD [01:40:01] WOULDN'T BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS WORK. WE'RE NOT ENCOURAGING PEOPLE, BUT THERE'S HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE TO GO ON LOOKING AT THOSE SCHOOL PROJECTS. SO I THINK, YEAH. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE FINE. BUT IT'S MORE, IT'S MORE, IS IT MORE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ORGANIZING THESE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE NOMINATING? RIGHT. CORRECT. RIGHT. NOT NECESSARILY A PROJECT. IT'S MORE, IT'S MORE SOMEONE WHO'S ORGANIZING WHO'S DOING IT. YEAH. YEAH. OR AN ORGANIZATION. THAT'S THE IMPRESSION I GOT. PERSON OR AN ORGANIZATION. YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. YEAH. SO I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN SOME AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE HONORED NEXT YEAR. PUT IT SO MANY OUT. WELL, WE'LL TAKE THAT UNDER ADVISEMENT. . NO, BUT THERE'S A, WHOEVER IS ON THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF SCHOOL GARDENS. UM, AND THERE'S KIDS TRYING TO PLANT A MINI NATIVE FOREST THIS YEAR IN LIVERMORE HIGH. LOVE TO HAVE THEM RECOGNIZED NEXT YEAR. AND I THINK I, THIS IS THE KIND OF THE FIRST YEAR DOING IT. YEAH. SO NEXT YEAR WE CAN YEAH, WE SHOULD, WE CAN BRING IT UP IN THE AWARDS AND SEE WHAT CRITERIA WE WANNA DEFINITELY. YEAH. YEAH. AND, AND I THINK WE NEED TO OH, THINK, THINK ABOUT THAT AS FAR AS THE LENGTH OF TIME TO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE SET THAT THIS ISN'T LIKE A ONCE AND DONE KIND OF THING MM-HMM . THAT SOMEBODY'S DOING THIS IN A CONTINUOUS BASIS. RIGHT. SO THINK ABOUT THAT AS MM-HMM . WHEN WE GO AND VIEW THE CRITERIA AND YEAH. INFORMATION. SO, UM, AND THEY'LL BE ANNOUNCED THAT WE'RE TAKING NOMINATIONS IN SEPTEMBER. NO. OR BEFORE THAT IT'S GONNA BE WAY EARLIER. I THINK THE DEADLINE IS SEPTEMBER 15TH AND HISTORICALLY, I THINK WE OPENED IT UP IN JUNE. YEAH. IT WILL RUN NEXT YEAR. THIS YEAR'S BEEN DIFFERENT. BUT NEXT YEAR IT WILL RUN CONCURRENTLY WITH THE BEAUTIFICATION AWARDS, RIGHT? CORRECT. AND THEN EVERYTHING WILL BE PRE PRESENTED AT CITY COUNCIL. OKAY. SO THE PROBLEM WITH JUNE IS THE SCHOOLS ARE OUT BY THEN. SO I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD EVEN WELL, BUT IT COULD STILL BE FOR PROJECTS THAT WERE GOING ON THROUGH THE SCHOOL YEAR. RIGHT. IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE, OH, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECTS ONLY BETWEEN JUNE AND SEPTEMBER. RIGHT? IT'S NOT, IT'S SOMEBODY NO, NO. I KNOW. NOT THE PROJECT, BUT JUST LIKE PEOPLE PAYING ATTENTION, , YOU'RE, YOU GOTTA BE THE ONE THAT BRINGS IT UP. OKAY. . AND, AND THAT'S SOMETHING TO DISCUSS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CRITERIA. YOU KNOW, I THINK THESE PEOPLE SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED. YEAH. YOU KNOW, THAT ARE, THAT THEY'RE DOING THIS. IT'S JUST THAT, UM, FOR THEM TO PREPARE THEIR APPLICATION, THEY'D WANNA DO IT BEFORE SUMMER BREAK. AND IF WE DON'T HAVE, IF WE'RE NOT ACCEPTING THEM YET, THEN THEY HAVE TO JUST KIND OF HOLD IT UNTIL JUNE. I DON'T KNOW. I I'M JUST SAYING THE TIMING COULD BE AWKWARD FOR SCHOOL PROJECTS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT IN SESSION. AND UH, LIKE I WAS SAYING FOR THE BACKYARDS, PEOPLE AREN'T GOING INTO OTHER, UH, PRIVATE BACKYARDS AND THE SCHOOLS, UH, HAVE BEEN DISCOURAGING PEOPLE FROM GOING ON CAMPUS UNLESS THEY'RE CHECKED INTO THE FRONT OFFICE. MM-HMM . AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS HAS THE SAME ELIGIBILITY. IT SHOULD BE A PUBLIC OPEN SPACE KIND THING, IS WHAT YOU'RE RIGHT. OKAY. I WOULD SAY THAT SCHOOLS ARE PRIVATE. UM, WELL, AGAIN, SOME, BECAUSE THEY'RE GATED AND THEY DON'T WANT PEOPLE JUST COMING IN AND OUT. SOMETHING WE CAN DISCUSS, HOWEVER, LET WE TALK ABOUT THE CRITERIA. RIGHT. FOR NEXT YEAR. YEAH. SO, IN REGARD, SORRY, I WANNA, I WANNA THANK BOTH TOM AND KAT FOR NOMINATING PEOPLE. I, YEAH. I NOMINATED ANDY. 'CAUSE HE DOES A GREAT JOB. YES. GOOD JOB, ANDY. I HAVEN'T DONE MUCH. OH, YOU HAVE? YOU HAVEN'T DONE MUCH. OH. WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA CLEAN UP NEXT? IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE MUCH UP TO NOW? SEEN THOSE VIDEOS? OH YEAH. SO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDING AWARDS FOR ANDY AND, UH, SORRY, WHAT WAS THE OTHER GENTLEMAN'S NAME? UH, EDWARD HUGO. EDWARD HUGO. I GOTTA MEET THIS GUY. YOU WILL, YOU GUYS SHOULD DO A, THE CITY COUNCIL. YOU GUYS COULD REALLY TAKE OFF ON TIKTOK OR INSTAGRAM AND YOU JOIN FORCES. UH, ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? DO WE NEED TO VOTE FOR OF THOSE APPROVER, THE AD HOC COMMITTEES? WE CAN HAVE AN INFORMAL VOTE. I DON'T REMEMBER IF WE VOTED FOR THE BEAUTIFICATION AWARD WINNERS. NO, WE DID AS A COMMITTEE. I MEAN, AS AN AD HOC, BUT WE JUST SORT OF INFORMED YOU GUYS OF WHAT WE DID. OKAY. OKAY. DOES THAT, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OPPOSITION TO THOSE TWO? UH, AWARDEES BEARS? ANDY? NO, NOT AT ALL. NO. OKAY. EXCEPT FOR THAT ANDY. OH, WAIT, . WOW. I BELIEVED YOU. OKAY. MOVING ON. 4.8, UH, RECEIVE AN UPDATE FROM BEAUTIFICATION AWARDS AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR DISCUSSION BY BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE. WE DID THAT. SO THIS IS JUST AN OPPORTUNITY. I WAS GOING TO COMBINE THE TWO BECAUSE THEY'RE BEAUTIFICATION AWARD AD HOC COMMITTEE UPDATES. BUT, UH, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THE PROGRAM FOR [01:45:01] THIS YEAR AND WHAT WENT WELL AND THINGS YOU'D LIKE TO CHANGE FOR NEXT YEAR. UM, INCLUDING THE CRITERIA FOR THE AWARDS, IF ANY. I THINK, YEAH. YEAH. I THINK THAT WHAT I, WHAT I THOUGHT I KIND OF LIKED WAS COMING UP WITH THE CRITERIA AHEAD OF TIME AND, AND USING THAT AS KIND OF A, A RULER TO, UM, AS LIKE A DETERMINE YEAH. WHO, WHO MEETS IT AND WHO DOESN'T MM-HMM . AND SO I APPRECIATE ANDY AND KAT FOR WEIGHING IN. IT'S SO HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO NOMINATE. I MEAN, WAS THIS YOUR SEVEN? I THINK IT'S JUST OUTREACH. JUST OUTREACH IS HARD. PEOPLE I KNOW JUST DON'T KNOW. IT'S, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN DO BETTER. WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING. SEE MY QUESTION, HOW CAN WE MAYBE, YEAH, MAYBE WE NEED TO CONTACT MORE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS. MAYBE WE CAN GET AN AD AT THE VINE OR AT THE WEST. CAN WE DO A NEW WEST SOMETHING IN THE INDEPENDENT ABOUT IT? YEAH. WE COULD PUT A A SCAN CODE IN THE INDEPENDENT. YEAH. UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE ALLOWED TO, ARE YOU ALLOWED TO PUT CITY RELATED BUSINESS IN? YES. OH, YOU ARE? YES. OKAY. OKAY. UM, BUT WHO PAY FOR, WE HAVE A LITTLE BUDGET FOR, WE HAVE A LITTLE BUDGET FOR IT. OKAY. SO THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY. I DID WANNA SHARE OUT SOME, UM, INFORMATION THAT, UM, OUR, UH, OUTREACH STAFF PERSON SHARED WITH ME. UM, OBVIOUSLY WE GOT, UH, MORE APPLICATIONS THIS YEAR THAN LAST YEAR. WE ONLY GOT THREE LAST YEAR, AND WE GOT 10 THIS YEAR WITH ONE NOT BEING ELIGIBLE SINCE THEY HAD WON PREVIOUSLY. AND THEN, UH, WE, YOU, UH, VOTED FOR SEVEN TO WIN THE AWARD. AND, UM, SO THAT'S PRETTY GOOD PROGRESS. IT'S LIKE A 300% INCREASE. YEAH. EXPONENTIAL. RIGHT, RIGHT. UM, NEXT YEAR WE'RE GONNA GET 30. RIGHT? WE'RE ON A ROLL. I THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS A LOT MORE INFORMATION PUT OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA ABOUT IT THIS YEAR. SHE PUT 12 POSTS OUT, INCLUDING ON NEXTDOOR, AND SHE SAID NEXTDOOR WAS REALLY THE BEST PLATFORM, UM, THAT, THAT GOT THE MOST REACH. THANKS. UM, AND THAT MAKES SENSE. ACTUALLY, THE BIGGEST SPIKE IN VISITS TO THE WEBPAGE WAS, UH, AT THE KICKOFF IN, UH, JULY. UM, PEOPLE WERE IN, I FORGET HOW SHE SAID SHE COULD TELL, UM, THEY VISITED THE PAGE ONLY FOR THE FORM. SO THAT'S, THAT'S HOW SHE KNEW, UM, HOW THAT WORKED OUT. AND THEN SHE DID HAVE A COUPLE OF SUGGESTIONS FOR NEXT YEAR, UM, IF YOU GUYS ARE INTERESTED. YEAH. UM, AND ONE OF THEM, SHE ALREADY DID. SHE DID, UH, WE HAD THE COUNCIL MEETING A PRESENTATION ON THE 24TH MM-HMM . AND THE PICTURES THAT WERE SUBMITTED, UH, WERE PUT INTO A GALLERY ON SOCIAL MEDIA INCLUDED THE, THE PICTURE WE TOOK AT THE COUNCIL MEETING OF THE WINNERS. MM-HMM . UM, OH YEAH, I SAW THAT. SO SHE SAID TO CELEBRATE THE WINNERS WITH A GALLERY POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA. VERY NICE. MM-HMM . UM, UH, WHICH, WHICH, UH, SHE DID. SO I THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO DO THAT. THERE WASN'T ARTICLE ABOUT IT IN THE PATCH, WHICH WAS NICE. OH, GREAT. YEAH. YEAH, I SAW THAT TOO. AND MAYBE, MAYBE THE POST WITH THE WINNERS, WE COULD REPOST THAT CLOSER TO THE TIME OF THE 2026 AWARDS AND THEN PEOPLE CAN SEE MM-HMM . WHAT THEY, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY SEE THE PLAQUE, IT MIGHT, OH, ONE OF THOSE WOULD LOOK GOOD IN MY YARD. YOU KNOW. UM, , I HAD , THE REASON I'M LAUGHING IS BECAUSE THE, THE PEOPLE THAT I ENCOURAGED TO, TO NOT TO NOMINATE THEMSELVES SAID, DO I HAVE TO PUT THAT UGLY PLAQUE IN MY BACKYARD? ? AND I SAID, CAN. AND SHE SAID, CAN I CREATE MY OWN? AND I SAID, YES, . THAT'S WHY I'M PLAYING. WELL, MAYBE, MAYBE WE CAN REDESIGN THE REDESIGN THE PLAQUE TOO. WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT TOO. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT FOR SURE. AND THEN, UH, SHE SAID TO MAKE A PLAN PLANNED AWARDS AN EVENT ON FACEBOOK AND NEXT DOOR TO HAVE A COUNTDOWN. AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THAT WORKS. LIKE AN EVENT, LIKE SAY THE APPLICATION OPENS JUNE 1ST AND A COUNTDOWN. YEAH. UM, 10 DAYS TO GET YOUR APPLICATION IN. RIGHT. OKAY. I GOT IT. UH, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. YEAH. SO IF YOU GUYS ARE INTERESTED, WE CAN ADD THAT TO THE, UM, PROCESS. YEAH. FOR NEXT YEAR. WILL YOU MAKE NOTES OF THAT STUFF AND JUST BRING IT UP? YES, BRING IT UP. OKAY. THE, ASSUMING THAT THE, THE AWARDS FOR THE, UH, COMMUNITY SERVICE AWARDS WILL BE PRESENTED AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. OH YEAH. MM-HMM . AND IT WOULD FOR THIS YEAR. YEAH. FOR THIS YEAR. AND, AND IT WOULD BE GREAT IF, IF PICTURES [01:50:01] COULD BE TAKEN OF THAT AS WELL OF THE AWARD WINNERS. YES. THAT'S DEFINITELY GONNA HAPPEN. IT DOES SAY, I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM. THE WINNERS WILL BE AWARDED AT THE JANUARY 26TH MEETING. OKAY. GREAT. COOL. GREAT. DO I NEED TO PREPARE ANOTHER SPEECH, ? YEP. OR IS THAT THE AD HOC COMMITTEE? THIS ONE WILL STAND ON ITS OWN. OKAY. IT IS UP TO YOU GUYS TO DECIDE WHO'S GONNA PRESENT THOSE AWARDS. IF IT'S THE CHAIR OR AD HOC COMMITTEE MEMBER, I GUESS WE TALK ABOUT THAT IN JAN. CAN WE TALK, SHOULD PRESENT THE AWARDS TO YES. . GREAT JOB. ME. THAT WILL BE AWKWARD. . MAYBE THE CITY COUNCIL. A CRINGEY MAYOR COULD, BUT YOU SURE SHOULD. BRING THE SIGN. BRING THE SIGN. YEAH. SO IF SOMEBODY STANDS DOES A ABOUT WHY, WHY THE, UM, GIVE IT TO YOUR PARENTS. YEAH. APPLICANTS WERE AWARDED THE AWARD. SO THE MAYOR WILL DO A, AN INTRODUCTION AND THEN ONE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS NEEDS TO BE UP AT THE PODIUM AND DISCUSS WHY THEY WON. SO BRING THAT UP IN MATTERS AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT JANUARY MEETING. YEAH, THAT SOUNDS GOOD. OKAY. WELL, GREAT JOB AD HOC COMMITTEE. YAY. BRAVO FOR BEAUTIFICATION WARDS. OKAY. MOVING ON TO FIVE, UH, COMMITTEE [5. COMMITTEE REPORTS AND MATTERS INITIATED BY STAFF AND COMMITTEE] REPORTS AND MATTERS INITIATED BY COMMITTEE. SO I WILL, I WILL, UH, PROPOSE THAT WE BRING UP IN THE JANUARY 3RD. IS IT JANUARY 3RD? NO, SEVENTH. SEVENTH. JANUARY 7TH. SEVENTH. JANUARY. SEVENTH MEETING, UH, TO DISCUSS THE, WHO WILL PRESENT THE, UH, COMMUNITY SERVICE AWARDS AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. YES. SO THE LIST I HAVE PROPOSED FOR THE JANUARY MEETING IS, UH, WE NEED TO ELECT A CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR AT THAT MEETING. AND JUST AS A REMINDER, ONCE THAT, UH, ELECTION IS MADE, THEY WILL THEN CHAIR THAT MEETING. OH. UM, GOING FORWARD, UM, I WILL BEGIN DISCUSSION FOR ARBOR DAY CELEBRATIONS, WE WILL APPOINT A BEAUTIFICATION AWARD, AD HOC, UH, COMMITTEE GU THE HOLIDAY LETTER RECOGNITION PROGRAM, AND DISCUSS THE CITY NATURE CHALLENGE SCHEDULE. AND THEN JUST AS A REMINDER, WITH THE UPDATE TO THE RULES OF PROCEDURE, ANYTHING THAT YOU GUYS WANNA PROPOSE FOR THE NEXT MEETING HAS TO BE, UH, APPROVED BY A MAJORITY OF YOU GUYS TO PUT IT ON THE OH, AGENDA. OKAY. WAIT, WHAT? I HAVE TO APPROVE IT BY A MAJORITY OF PEOPLE TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. SO IF YOU SAID, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE WINE BARREL IN JANUARY, UHHUH, YOU WOULD HAVE TO, UH, THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WOULD HAVE TO SAY, YES, I AGREE. LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT IN JANUARY. BECAUSE MAJORITY IT'S NOT ON OUR PLANNED WORK SCHEDULE. IS THAT NO, I WAS JUST GIVING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE. THAT WAS ONE OF THE UPDATES TO OUR RULES OF PROCEDURE. SO WAS, OR IT COULD BE ONE COMMITTEE MEMBER COULD SAY, HEY, CAN WE PLEASE TALK ABOUT THIS? OH. BUT NOW IT HAS TO BE A MAJORITY OF YOU THAT AGREE. YOU'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT AT THE NEXT MEETING. SO I JUST PROPOSED WE TALK ABOUT THE CITY COUNCIL. SO DOES, DOES THAT HAVE, DO WE HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE ON IT? WE APPROVE IT NOW RATHER THAN WAIT AND HAVE TO DO IT OVER THE EMAIL OR WHATEVER. OR IT IS PART OF THE ITEM NOW. OH, IT IS. IT'S CLOSED TECHNICALLY, BUT, OKAY. OKAY. SO, SO WE DON'T NEED TO VOTE ON THAT. SO WE JUST LISTED OUR, OUR GOOD TO GO. THAT'S WHAT'S PROPOSED FOR THE JANUARY MEETING. OKAY. WE DON'T HAVE TO APPROVE ANY OF IT. OKAY. 'CAUSE WE'VE ALREADY WHAT'S THAT? THEY'RE ALREADY ON THE WORK. OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD. WELL, I, THERE'S SOMETHING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, UM, THE NEXT COMMUNITY CLEANUP BECAUSE, UM, IN THE LAST MEETING WHERE YOU GUYS, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LIKE MORE CLEANUP EVENTS AND I'LL BE HELPING WITH SOME OF THE COORDINATION MM-HMM . SO I WAS THINKING IN JANUARY MEETING, CAN WE KIND OF LIKE, TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP, ANDY. I FORWARDED THE INFORMATION THAT YOU WERE GONNA BE THE PROGRAM MANAGER FOR THAT, UH, TO THE PERSON WHO'S GOING TO HELP ME HELP THOSE, UH, VOLUNTEER EVENTS HAPPEN AND SHE'S GONNA GET BACK TO ME. OKAY. SO WE'RE NOT QUITE READY TO, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT YET, BUT I'M TOO EAGER, AS YOU CAN SEE, . I APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S GOOD. PICK A NICE THING SO IT'S NOT READY. THAT'S, THAT'S JUST BECAUSE YOU GOT AN AWARD . WOW. I'M JUST SAYING I'M OFFENDED. I'LL BE DUMPY . SO JUST IN REGARDS TO THAT, WHEN YOU HAVE MORE INFO, YOU'LL BRING IT UP? YES, YES. AND WE CAN PUT IT ON A FUTURE MEETING. YES. OKAY, GREAT. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO THE ATTENTION OF OUR COMMITTEE, THE RE LIVERMORE RESILIENT [01:55:01] HUB, UM, WHICH IS A PLATFORM THAT OUR CITY SUBSCRIBES TO OPEN TO ALL OUR RESIDENTS TO GO IN AND YOU CREATE A PROFILE OR YOU CAN JUST USE IT, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT CREATING A PROFILE. BUT IF YOU CREATE A PROFILE FOR YOUR HOUSEHOLD, YOU GET, UM, SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS ON THINGS YOU CAN DO TO LOWER YOUR CARBON FOOTPRINT. UM, MANY OF THE THINGS THAT RELATE TO OUR COMMITTEE ARE ABOUT, OF COURSE, LANDSCAPING AND USE OF LANDSCAPING TOOLS, ET CETERA. UM, TODAY, UH, TRI-VALLEY AIR QUALITY CLIMATE ALLIANCE MET WITH THE DEVELOPERS OF THE PLATFORM AND THEY'RE VERY EXCITED THAT WE WANNA HELP WITH OUTREACH. SO I'D LIKE TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON, UM, KIND OF OUR THOUGHTS ABOUT HOW TO ENGAGE MORE OF THE COMMUNITY IN THE LIVERMORE RESILIENT HUB AT A FUTURE MEETING. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE JANUARY. UM, PROBABLY BETTER ACTUALLY FEBRUARY OR MARCH. WE ARE HOPING TO DO KIND OF A SCHOOL BASED ROLLOUT CAMPAIGN, BUT ALSO THEY HAVE A LOT OF OUTREACH STRATEGIES FOR THE COMMUNITY, LARGER COMMUNITY IN GENERAL. SO, UM, I'M WONDERING IF THE COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT. YEAH. AND THIS WAS, UM, INITIATED AS PART OF THE LIVERMORE'S CLIMATE ACTION PLAN THAT THE, UM, PLATFORM WAS ADOPTED. SO IT'S DO WE, I THINK REALLY RELEVANT TO WHAT WE'RE DOING TOO. YEAH. WHAT, DO WE HAVE AGENDAS FOR FEBRUARY OR MARCH YET? OR? NOT YET? NOT YET. WE'D HAVE TO SEE IT IN THE NEXT MEETING. DO YOU WANNA BRING IT BACK WHEN YOU'RE READY? FOR THE NEXT MONTH? YEAH. YEAH. I JUST THOUGHT IT, WE VOTE TO HAVE IT ON A FEBRUARY OR MARCH AGENDA THOUGH NOW. SURE, SURE. UM, YES, I CONCUR. SURE. YEAH. OKAY, GOOD. UM, I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION. WE GET THESE THICK PAPER PACKETS EVERY MEETING, UM, AND THIS IS A LOT OF PAPER EVERY MEETING. SO, UM, THOSE OF US WHO ARE FINE WITH JUST USING OUR LAPTOPS, IS THERE ANY REASON WHY DO WE NEED TO HAVE PAPER FOR SOME PROCEDURAL REASON OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? THOSE ARE ACTUALLY, WE PRINT 'EM FOR THE PUBLIC IN CASE ANY MEMBERS COME. YOU GUYS ARE ENCOURAGED TO EITHER PRINT YOUR OWN OR, OR DO IT, UH, REVIEW IT DIGITALLY DURING THE MEETING. RIGHT. SO YOU WOULD PRINT THEM ANYWAY BECAUSE YOU JUST NEED TO HAVE 'EM READY FOR THE PUBLIC. YES. YEAH. UHHUH . OKAY. OKAY. THEY GET RECYCLED THOUGH, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT. . OKAY. THAT'S CUTE. YOU'RE NOT KEEPING YOURS. I DO ACTUALLY HAVE A, I HAVE A STACK OF, I HAVE EVERYONE FROM THIS YEAR ACTUALLY , JUST IN CASE I KNOW. OKAY. I'M NOT SURE WHY I DO IT TOO. I KEEP MINE DIGITALLY. OKAY. OKAY. SO 8 0 5, UH, DURING THE MEETING, WHERE'S YOUR GAVEL? THEY TOOK IT AWAY FROM ME. THEY TOOK IT. THEY TOOK IT. MY LAST MEETING, IT WAS CHAIR, THEY TOOK THE GAVEL AWAY. ALL RIGHT. LET'S ALL GO LOOK AT HOLIDAY LIGHTS ON OUR WAY. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.