* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. YEP. [00:00:02] ALL RIGHT. SO IT IS [1. CALL TO ORDER] 6:05 PM ON WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 5TH. I WILL CALL THIS, UH, BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE MEETING TO ORDER. WE, UH, ITEM TWO, ROLL CALL. OH, THAT'S RIGHT. CHAIR BRADLEY. HERE. VICE CHAIR CRAFT HERE. COMMITTEE MEMBER BROWN. PRESENT COMMITTEE MEMBER JEFFERSON. HERE. COMMITTEE MEMBER WONG. HERE. COMMITTEE MEMBER WEISS IS ABSENT. AND COMMITTEE MEMBER STEIN HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS GONNA BE OPEN FORUM. DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC FOR OPEN FORUM? NO COMMENT. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY COMMENTS. MOVING ON TO [4. MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION ] ITEM FOUR MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION. ITEM 4.1, APPROVAL OF THE DRAFT MINUTES FOR THE OCTOBER 1ST, 2025 REGULAR MEETING. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES IS WRITTEN. I SECOND THE MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES BY KAREN JEFFERSON. SECONDED BY ANN BROWN. TAKE A VOTE ON THAT TO CHAIR BRADLEY. AYE. VICE CHAIR CRAFT AYE. COMMITTEE MEMBER BROWN. AYE. COMMITTEE MEMBER JEFFERSON AYE. COMMITTEE MEMBER WONG AYE. AND COMMITTEE MEMBER STEIN. OH, SORRY. THAT'S RIGHT. I ABSTAIN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO MOVING ON TO 0.4, 0.2, UM, WHICH IS A TREE ACTION PERMIT APPEAL FOR 6 91 SOUTH L STREET. SO I'M GONNA PASS OVER TO I BELIEVE TIM MESA FROM CITY LIVERMORE FOR THAT. HI. UM, TIM. SC LIVERMORE. I'M THE PUBLIC WORK SUPERVISOR FOR LANDSCAPE. UM, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK, UH, MR. MRS. SIMPSON FOR THEIR TIME AND PATIENCE. UH, GOING THROUGH THIS APPEAL PROCESS, UM, HAS BEEN KINDA LENGTHY, SO I WANNA THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO THE TE TREE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS A QUICKEST HYDRO FOLIA LOCATED AT 6 91 SOUTH LIVERMORE. UH, OR SORRY, SOUTH L STREET. UM, IT'S A BACKYARD TREE, UH, VERY LARGE TREE. UH, I BELIEVE IT'S 138 CBH, UM, INCHES. SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY LARGE. UH, SO IN INSPECTING AND PROCESSING TREE PERMITS, WE USE OUR LITTLE MORE TREE ORDINANCE AS OUR GUIDE. AND THIS PARTICULAR TREE FALLS UNDER A COUPLE CATEGORIES, GIVES A LITTLE EXTRA PROTECTED STATUS. UM, SO IT IS LISTED ON OUR TREES, OUR, UH, CITY'S ANCESTRAL TREE INVENTORY LIST. AND AS WELL, IT'S A CALIFORNIA NATIVE OVER 24 INCHES IN THE CBH. UM, LITTLE BACKGROUND. SO WE RECEIVED THIS ON MAY 8TH, UH, 2025. WE RECEIVED THE ACTION PERMIT, UM, AND IT WAS ASSIGNED TO STAFF AND HE COORDINATED WITH THE, THE SIMPSONS TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE BACKYARD. AND SO ON MAY 19TH, OUR STAFF, UH, MET WITH THE SIMPSONS AND INSPECTED THE TREE. UH, HE CAME BACK THE SAME DAY WITH SOME CONCERNS 'CAUSE OF THE, THE SIZE OF THE TREE. UM, HE, THE TREE IS HEALTHY. UH, THERE WERE SOME MARKS ON THE BOTTOM WHERE THEY HAD SOME, UH, INSECTICIDE INJECTIONS PERFORMED. BUT BESIDES THAT, THE TREES, UH, HEALTHY, UH, VERY WELL, WELL MAINTAINED. UH, SO HE CAME TO ME WITH SOME CONCERNS. UM, AND SO I ARRANGED TO MEET WITH THE HOMEOWNER AGAIN, UH, WHICH WE DID ON THE 19TH OF MAY OF THIS YEAR. AND, UM, OH, NO, SORRY, JUNE 2ND, I MET WITH THE SIMPSONS. AND, UM, SAME THING. I SAW THE TREE REALLY HEALTHY, UH, REALLY WELL MAINTAINED. UM, AND SO I LET HIM KNOW AT THAT TIME. THIS IS A POSSIBLE DENIAL BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF JUST JUSTIFICATION TO, UM, ALLOW THE REMOVAL. UH, WE WENT BACK THE PRIOR DAY ON JUNE 3RD, UH, WITH, UH, DIVISION MANAGER JOE PRIME. UH, SAME THING. WE MET WITH HIM AND KIND OF WENT OVER THE WHOLE TREE APPEAL PROCESS, UH, ANTICIPATING, UM, A DENIAL FOR REMOVAL AT [00:05:01] THAT TIME. UM, SO YEAH, SO BASICALLY WE DENIED THE PERMIT, UH, 'CAUSE IT DIDN'T JUSTIFY THE REMOVAL 'CAUSE OF LACK OF EVIDENCE. THERE'S, UM, THERE'S NO VISIBLE DECAY AND, UM, SO YEAH, IT WAS REALLY HEALTHY TREE. UM, SO THERE WAS CONCERNS FROM THE HOMEOWNER ABOUT EXCESSIVE MAINTENANCE, UM, AND SOME POSSIBLE DAMAGE TO HIS PROPERTY. UH, PRIMARILY LIKE THE FOUNDATION, WHICH WE DON'T, WE DO A, UH, A VISUAL INSPECTION OF THE TREE. WE DON'T CRAWL UNDER CRAWL SPACES AND LOOK FOR ANY, UM, DAMAGE OF FOUNDATIONS LIKE THAT. SO WE JUST DO A, A LEVEL ONE VISUAL ASSESSMENT OF THE TREE. AND THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH THIS. UM, THIS TREE IS CONSIDERED A HISTORIC TREE. UH, EVEN ON THE, DOING A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH, I WENT INTO ZILLOW JUST TO KIND OF GET LIKE A HISTORY OF THE HOME. AND THE HOME ISN'T LISTED AS A HISTORIC HOME, BUT ON THE LISTING IT DID STATE THAT THEY, THIS HOME DOES HAVE A HISTORIC TREE ON THE PROPERTY. SO A HUGE HISTORIC TREE, I BELIEVE IT SAYS. UM, SO IT'S BASICALLY THIS, THIS TREE IS, IT'S HEALTHY, WELL MAINTAINED, AND THERE'S NO OBVIOUS DEFECTS THAT JUSTIFIES THE REMOVAL. UH, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT. UM, SO, UH, WITH TREES LIKE THIS, THEY DO PROVIDE A LOT OF HABITAT FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, UH, WILDLIFE, UH, AS WELL AS COOLING. UM, AND SO THE, THE ORDINANCES IN PLACE TO KIND OF PROTECT TREES OF THIS SIZE, UH, FROM BEING REMOVED, UH, NEEDLESSLY. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU TIM. UM, WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE, OR DO WE WANT TO INVITE THE HOMEOWNERS? LET, LET'S INVITE, UH, MR. AND MRS. SIMPSON, DID YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING? DO THEY WANNA STEP UP TO THE PODIUM? IS THAT WHAT WE DID BEFORE? YEAH, HER PAST GET UP HIGH HERE. OH, YEAH. UM, THANK YOU FOR, FOR THOSE THAT DID COME TO OUR HOUSE TO KIND OF EXPERIENCE, UM, EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING ON WITH THE TREE CONTINUOUSLY. UM, AND WHEN WE, WE BOUGHT THIS HOUSE A LITTLE OVER FOUR YEARS AGO. IT WAS IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME WHERE THE TREE WAS JUST NOT DOING ANYTHING. AND WE, SO WE DID KNOW ABOUT THE, THE HISTORIC PART OF THE TREE. UM, HOWEVER, IT'S REALLY MADE OUR LIVING SITUATION KIND OF A NIGHTMARE. WE CAN'T REALLY USE OUR BACKYARD FOR, LIKE, YOU GUYS CAME OVER, YOU SAW HOW EVERYTHING WAS JUST STICKY EVERYWHERE. THE SAP WAS EVERYWHERE. UM, NOW WHAT'S HAPPENING TOO IS JUST TONS OF ACORNS ARE FALLING EVERYWHERE AND YOU CAN'T REALLY WALK ON, 'CAUSE THEY'RE KIND OF SLIPPERY TOO. UM, AND THE TYPE OF LEAVES THAT THIS TREE FALLS IS REALLY LIKE, WE HAVE A BACKYARD WHERE OUR KID CAN'T REALLY PLAY BACK THERE NOW. 'CAUSE THOSE LEAVES ARE SUPER SHARP. THEY'LL, THEY'LL CUT YOU AND MAKE YOU BLEED A LITTLE BIT. TRY TO PICK 'EM UP WITH YOUR HANDS AS WELL. UM, AND SO IT'S JUST MORE, AND LIKE THE TREE IS BEAUTIFUL. WE'RE NOT DENYING THAT. IT'S BEAUTIFUL. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL TREE. IT JUST DOESN'T BELONG IN OUR BACKYARD. I WISH WE COULD TRANSPORT IT TO A FIELD SOMEWHERE. 'CAUSE THAT'S KIND OF WHERE A LOT OF THESE TYPE OF TREES ARE OUT IN THE FOOTHILLS OF LIVERMORE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, AND YEAH. YEAH. AND ASIDE FROM THE YARD WORK AND THE MAINTENANCE, UM, WHICH DOES TAKE, IF WE REALLY DEDICATE OUR TIME TO IT, LIKE FOUR PLUS HOURS IN A DAY, JUST TO CLEAN UP ALL THE ACORNS AND EVERYTHING. UM, HOWEVER, LIKE, WE'RE ALSO CONCERNED BECAUSE IT IS IN THE MIDDLE OF TWO OF OUR HOUSING STRUCTURES, OUR DETACHED GARAGE IN OUR MAIN HOUSE. AND, UM, IT IS GROWING PRETTY CLOSE TO THOSE STRUCTURES. UM, AND SO WHEN IT DOES GET TO BE A VERY WINDY NIGHT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, BREAKING OF BRANCHES. EVEN A SMALL BRANCH ON FROM THIS TREE WOULD DO A LOT OF DAMAGE TO OUR STRUCTURES. UM, AND ON TOP OF THAT, THE, UM, PESTS THAT IT BRINGS WITH THE SAP, UM, ALL TYPES OF INSECTS AND, UM, RATS, RODENTS, SQUIRRELS. SO WE'RE CONSTANTLY DOING MAINTENANCE FOR THAT AS WELL. UM, AND TRIAGE TO KEEP, UM, ALL OF OUR AREAS SAFE AND RODENT FREE. UM, SO THERE'S JUST A LOT OF CONCERNS THAT COME WITH IT. UM, AND LIKE MY HUSBAND SAID, LIKE WE, WE'VE THE THINK THE TREE IS BEAUTIFUL. IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE BOUGHT OUR PROPERTY, UM, WITHOUT KNOWING ALL OF THE THINGS THAT IS COMING WITH IT. AND IT'S NOT EVEN BREACHED FULL MATURITY YET AS FAR [00:10:01] AS LIKE OUR ARBORIST HAS SAID. UM, AND SO IT'S ONLY GONNA GET BIGGER AND WE'RE ONLY GONNA CONTINUE TO, UM, MAINTENANCE IT SPENDING THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS A YEAR JUST FOR TO TRIM IT BACK. UM, AND SO AT THIS POINT, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A WANT. WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, NOT BECAUSE WE WANT IT GONE, BUT BECAUSE IT'S IN NEED FOR OUR HOME AND OUR FAMILY AND OUR SENSE OF SAFETY IN OUR OWN HOME. SO, UM, WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU, UM, HEARING THIS AND, UM, CONSIDERING OUR, OUR PLEA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JUST, JUST ONE QUESTION. SURE. UM, I BELIEVE, DO WE HAVE SOME FEEDBACK FROM NEIGHBORS TOO? OH, YEAH. OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR NEIGHBORS WROTE LETTERS TOO. I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE THAT. YEAH. BUT KIND OF THE SAME ISSUES THAT ARE HAPPENING, IT'S JUST OVERFLOWING INTO THEIR YARDS TOO. AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A DOG THAT MY NEIGHBORS HAVE DOGS TOO, AND THE ACORNS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE EATING THEM, BUT THEY LOOK SO SCRUMPTIOUS AND THE LEAVES GET ON THERE. OH, YEAH. AND THE LEAVES IN THEIR PAWS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. UM, AND THE SAP, THE SAP'S GOING ON MY, MY NEIGHBOR'S GARAGE TOO. AND IT'S ALL, YOU CAN JUST SEE THE WHOLE SAPPY SIDE DETERIORATING ON THAT. COULD I ASK, COULD I ASK? OF COURSE. THERE YOU GO. LIKE THAT. OKAY. UM, YOU HAD MENTIONED, UH, A IS IT A BACTERIAL DISEASE THAT EXISTS IN THE ACORNS OR SOME THAT'S IMPACTING THE ACORNS? YES. IT'S A WHAT IS CAUSING THE STA I GUESS THAT, THAT YEAH. IT'S A VERY COMMON DISEASE WITH THESE TREES. IT'S DRIPPING NUT DISEASE OR, UM, AND SO IT'S A FUNGAL DISEASE THAT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE A TREATMENT FOR IT. UM, WE HAVE NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE TREES THAT HAVE THIS ISSUE AS WELL. UM, AND SO IT JUST FROM IN THE WARMER PARTS, WARMER PARTS OF THE SUMMER, IT JUST AS IT'S, YOU KNOW, UM, MAKING THE ACORNS, DEVELOPING THE ACORNS, IT JUST DRIPS SAP EVERYWHERE. AND WITH THE SIZE AND CIRCUMFERENCE OF THE TREE CANOPY, IT REALLY DOES GET EVERYWHERE. I WANNA THANK YOU FOR FOLLOWING THIS PROCESS AND ABSOLUTELY BEING HONEST AND, AND, AND NOT CUTTING THE TREE DOWN WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS. SO I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING THIS. YEAH. WE KNOW OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS LIKE, AS, AS LIVERMORE'S GROWING TOO, YOU KNOW, THE HISTORIC HOMES OF LIVERMORE. NOT THAT OURS IS HISTORIC, BUT KEEPING, KEEPING THE WHOLE GENERAL AREA LOOKING HISTORIC AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS WAS LIKE, WANTING TO GET THIS TREE DOWN WAS REALLY HEAVY ON OUR HEARTS TOO. IT'S LIKE, OH MY GOSH, WE'RE, IT'S SUCH A BIG PART OF THE HOUSE, BUT IT'S LIKE OVERTAKING THE HOUSE WHERE WE TRY TO LIVE, YOU KNOW? SO THAT'S, IT WASN'T EASY DECISION FOR US EITHER. DO YOU, IF YOU WERE TO GET THE TREE REMOVED, DO YOU, WOULD YOU PLAN ON PLANNING SOMETHING ELSE MORE SUITABLE FOR THE SPACE? YEAH. IS THAT YOUR PLAN OR? YEAH. UM, IS THAT SOMETHING WE ACTUALLY PLANNED, PLANNED AHEAD FOR THIS? UM, BECAUSE WE DO REALIZE IT'S A, UM, YOU KNOW, A CALIFORNIA NATIVE TREE. WE, UM, ACTUALLY WENT TO ALDEN LANE TO GET THEIR EXPERTISE ON WHAT SORT OF CALIFORNIA NATIVE, UM, PLANTS WE COULD USE, WE COULD REPLACE IT WITH. AND, UM, WHERE THE TREE AT IS RIGHT NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR BACKYARD PROPERTY IS PROBABLY NOT WHERE WE WOULD REPLACE IT. BUT, UM, ALONG OUR BORDER FENCES, WE HAVE A LOT OF PLANTER SPACE AND WE WERE CONSIDERING, UM, A CALIF CALIFORNIA WAX MYRTLE IS I THINK WHAT WE CAME UPON. AND, UM, THOSE GROW TO BE LIKE 20 BY 20. AND, UM, THEY OFF ALSO OFFER A LOT TO, UM, TO DIFFERENT SORT OF MAMMALS, BIRDS, BEES, POLLINATORS, THAT SORT OF THING. SO I THINK THEY'LL ALSO GIVE BACK TO, UM, YOU KNOW, GET BACK TO THE HABITAT RIGHT. OF, UM, OUR CREATURES IN LIVERMORE, THEY, THEY TYPICALLY GROW MORE LIKE BUSHES THAN OUR TREES. YEAH. YEAH. HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT PUTTING A REPLACEMENT TREE IN YOUR FRONT YARD? WE HAVE NOT THOUGHT ABOUT THAT. WE DO HAVE, WE HAVE TWO CREPE AND MYRTLES AND TWO, UH, MAGNOLIA TREES ON THE SIDEWALK SIDE. AND THEN ALSO ALONG OUR DRIVEWAY WE HAVE A CREPE AND MYRTLE AND A BIG BUSH. UM, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT'S CALLED. SO WE DO HAVE QUITE A FEW TREES ON THE PROPERTY ALREADY. AT THIS POINT. WE KIND OF USE OUR FRONT YARD FOR PLAYING AND EVERYTHING BECAUSE IT'S THE BIGGER, CLEANER, UM, SPACE. SO WE HADN'T CONSIDERED THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE WOULD BE AGAINST CONSIDERING IT [00:15:01] IF, UM, IF, YOU KNOW, WE GOT PROPER LANDSCAPING AND EVERYTHING FOR THAT. I HAVE, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR TIM, IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE. YEAH. TIM, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT, UM, THIS TREE IS ON THE, UH, TREE ANCESTRAL TREE LIST. CORRECT. DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT LIST? UH, NOT ON ME, BUT YEAH, WE, WE DO HAVE, BUT COULD YOU PROVIDE THAT YEAH. TO THE BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE, BECAUSE I THINK AT ONE POINT WE WERE SEARCHING FOR THAT LIST AND TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, UH, TREES WERE ON THAT. YEAH, WE, IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT THIS TREE WAS ON, ON THAT AT ONE POINT. SO THAT'S ONE THING I LOOK FOR WHEN WE, WE RECEIVE THE PERMITS MM-HMM . IF IT'S, I LOOK AT THE PERMIT, IF IT'S A LARGE TREE, ESPECIALLY A NATIVE, THEN I IMMEDIATELY GO TO THAT LIST AND SEE IF IT'S LISTED ON THERE. SO, YOU KNOW WHEN THE TREE WAS PLANTED? I DON'T, NO, IT'S PROBABLY PRE HOUSE. RIGHT. UH, I WOULD IMAGINE IT WAS PLANTED AFTER THE HOUSE WAS BUILT. AFTER THE HOUSE WAS BUILT. YEAH. SO THERE'S THE UC, SANTA BARBARA HISTORICAL AERIAL IMAGES WEBSITE. AND IF YOU GO ON THAT WEBSITE, YOU COULD SEE THERE IS, THEY'RE NOT THE BEST PHOTOS, OF COURSE FROM 1940, BUT THERE ARE AERIAL VIEWS, UH, OF THE HOUSE WITH LIKE A LITTLE BLURB WHERE YOU COULD SEE WHERE THE TREE IS AT. SO, UM, ACTUALLY I HAVE A COPY OF THAT HERE, BUT, OKAY. UM, AND THAT'S WHEN THE HOUSE, BUT WHO KNOWS IF THAT IS THE OAK TREE OR IT WAS SOMETHING ELSE PRIOR TO THE OAK FROM THE FORTIES WE THAT BIG, WELL, AT THE TIME IT WAS WELL, OH, AT THE, NO, AT THE TIME YOU COULD SEE IT. IT'S PROBABLY A, A 10 FOOT DIAMETER. YEAH, YEAH. NO, IT'S, IT'S SMALL. YEAH, NO. SO, AND YOU GO THE AERIAL VIEWS, THEY DON'T HAVE A, IT'S MAYBE A 20 YEAR GAP IN BETWEEN SOME OF THESE AERIAL VIEWS. SO YOU CAN SEE A TREE THERE, LIKE GETTING LARGER AND LARGER. SO, SO I HAVE A QUESTION. UM, THIS IS OUR SECOND MEETING WITH A BIG OAK TREE. AND OBVIOUSLY THE HOUSE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN BUILT IF THE OAK TREE WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, I GUESS AT THE TIME IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THAT WAS A THREAT. IS THIS GOING TO BE A RECURRING ISSUE? AND I, I'M NEW ON THE BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE, SO I JUST WONDER, ARE THERE A LOT OF HOMES THAT HAVE THESE BIG TREES? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE FACING FREQUENTLY? THERE ARE A LOT OF THE OLDER HOMES THAT DO HAVE THESE LARGE TREES. UH, SOME AREAS THEY'RE NEWER HOMES, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, 40 OR 50 YEARS OLD THAT HAVE THESE TREES. UH, THEY GET PROBABLY MORE IRRIGATED SO THEY GROW QUICKER. UH, SO THEY MAY LOOK A LITTLE OLDER IN APPEARANCE THAN THEY REALLY ARE. UM, BUT WE HAVE, WE, WE, WE JUST DO IT CASE BY CASE. SO WHEN WE RECEIVE THESE, UM, PERMITS, ESPECIALLY WITH LARGE NATIVE TREES, WE TALK WITH THE HOMEOWNERS AND THEN SEE IF THEY REALLY WANT IT REMOVED, UM, AND WHAT THEIR PLAN IS. SO YEAH, UH, WE DO RECEIVE SOME, BUT NOT A LOT. OKAY. YEAH. I JUST WONDER, LIKE IN THE LAST 10 YEARS, HOW MANY OF THESE PERMITS HAVE BEEN GRANTED, UH, THAT HAD BEEN CONTESTED? DO YOU, DO WE HAVE ANY RECORD ON THAT? HI, I AM JOE PRIME, THE MAINTENANCE AND GOLF OPERATIONS MANAGER. I CAN SAY THAT WE PROBABLY AVERAGE, UH, AROUND FIVE TO SIX DENIALS A YEAR, UH, THAT ARE SIMILAR TO THIS. UM, NOT ALL OF THEM THAT GET APPEALED AND, AND COME TO THE COMMITTEE. I WOULD SAY WE AVERAGE ONE TO TWO A YEAR THAT GET APPEALED AND COME TO THE COMMITTEE. UM, BUT LIKE TIM SAID, EACH SITUATION'S DIFFERENT. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT'S REALLY IDENTIFIED WHERE WE HAVE LARGE NATIVE TREES THAT ARE IN THIS EXACT SAME SITUATION. UM, A LOT OF TIMES THE RESIDENTS WILL, IF THERE IS, UH, DAMAGE TO THE PROPERTY AND THEY HAVE THAT DOCUMENTED WITH EITHER PHOTOS OR THEY HAVE MAYBE A PROFESSIONAL CONTRACTOR INSPECTING THE FOUNDATION, NOTICING CRACKS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE WOULD GET OUR, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION FOR THOSE THAT WE WOULD MM-HMM . APPROVE BECAUSE THE PROPERTY DAMAGE IS THERE. UM, SO DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH, I, I GUESS SO. OKAY. I'VE LIVED WITH, UH, LIVE OAK TREES WITH, YOU KNOW, CATERPILLARS AND ACORNS AND ALL OF THAT ON A DECK COMING RIGHT OUT OF THE DECK, SO I KNOW WHAT IT IS. BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE, WE KNEW THAT'S WHAT WE WERE GETTING INTO. SO IT'S TOO BAD IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE, THE OAK TREES LIFECYCLE WHEN YOU BOUGHT THAT HOUSE. AND WHAT A BIG FACTOR IT WOULD BE. ONE MORE QUESTION, UH, FOR MR. AND MRS. SIMPSON, DOES IT AFFECT LIKE WATER, LIKE DRAINAGE IN YOUR BACKYARD OR LIKE WITH ALL THIS DEBRIS AND ACORNS? LIKE IS YOUR BACKYARD FLOODING? NO, IT'S NOT. UM, I MEAN, THAT HOUSE NEEDED A LOT OF WORK IN GENERAL. WE DID PUT IN, THERE WAS GRASS THERE ORIGINALLY, BUT WE PUT IN LIKE [00:20:01] FAKE GRASS 'CAUSE IT WASN'T REALLY GROWING 'CAUSE IT WAS JUST A MESS. 'CAUSE IT WAS LIKE TOO MUCH SHADE OR TOO MUCH WATER. YEAH. AND IT WOULD NEVER DRY WHEN IT, WHEN IT DID RAIN OR WE HAD TO WATER IT. UM, AND WE HAVE THERE, THERE WAS INSTALLED A HUGE, UM, SUMP PUMP KIND OF NEXT TO THE TREE, BUT THAT WASN'T WORKING WHEN WE MOVED IN. SO I GOT A PLUMBER, AN ELECTRICIAN TO GET IT WORKING. I HAD TO DIG A NEW TRENCH OUT AWAY FROM THE TREE TO THE SIDE TO GET THE WATER OUT. OTHERWISE IT WAS ALL GONNA GO INTO THE GARAGE. OKAY. UM, AND WHAT I, WE ALSO FOUND OUT TOO THAT THEY HAD BUILT A DOUBLE THICKNESS OF THE DRIVEWAY, PROBABLY 'CAUSE OH, I DON'T KNOW WHY EXACTLY, BUT THE HOUSE IS LIKE MISHMASH TOGETHER. YOU KNOW, IT WAS BUILT IN 1903, BY THE WAY, THE ORIGINAL FRONT HOUSE. UM, SO WE DO HAVE, WE DO HAVE GOOD DRAINAGE 'CAUSE WE PUT IT IN OH, RIGHT. IN GENERAL. OKAY. BUT, UM, AND I DON'T THINK WE WERE ABLE TO CONFIRM IF THE SUMP PUMP WASN'T WORKING BECAUSE OF THE UNDERGROUND ROOTS AND EVERYTHING. WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DETERMINE THAT. RIGHT. YEAH. BUT THAT WAS OUR, THAT WAS OUR FIX FOR IT. THANK YOU. THANKS TIM. AND TIM AND JOE, ANY MORE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? NO QUESTIONS, BUT COMMENTS? UH, UM, YOU SIR. MICHAEL? MICROPHONE. IT'S HARD TO TURN ON. SLIP IT UP. THERE WE GO. UM, UH, THE TREE HAS, I THINK, OUTGROWN THE YARD. I MEAN, YEAH, JUST LOOKING AT IT, I MEAN, WE'VE HAD LIVE OAKS BEFORE THAT HAVE BEEN DENIED BECAUSE THE, THE YARD WAS BIG ENOUGH FOR THEM, OR THEY WERE FAR ENOUGH FROM THE BUILDINGS. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL TREES HAVE PROBLEMS WITH, UH, DEBRIS. I MEAN, BLOOD LEAVES, FLOWERS, NUTS, ACORNS. UM, BUT THIS TREE IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK EXCEEDED THE SIZE OF THE YARD. IT'S PROBABLY CLOSE TO A HUNDRED YEARS OLD. IT PROBABLY HAS ANOTHER 25 OR 50 YEARS TO GROW. BUT, UH, AT THAT POINT IT WILL TOTALLY DOMINATE THE, THE, THE LOT. UM, I'M INCLINED TO GRANT THE APPROVAL. THERE'S SORT OF A BALANCE BETWEEN BENEFITS TO THE COMMUNITY AND PRESERVING NATIVE, UH, SPECIES AND PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS. I MEAN, THE, THE ABILITY TO USE THE PROPERTY. UM, AND, UH, AS I SAY, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, HAD, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY ONE OR TWO APPEALS PER YEAR COMING BEFORE THE COUNCIL, BEFORE THE, UH, BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE. I WAS ON THE BEAUTIFICATION FOR EIGHT YEARS PREVIOUS. AND I THINK WE HAD FOUR OR FIVE. UM, MOST OF THE TREES ARE ACTUALLY REDWOODS THAT ARE, ARE PROBLEM, BUT THEY'RE NOT NATIVE FOR THIS AREA. UM, OVERALL, I THINK, UM, ON BALANCE, I WOULD, I WOULD GRANT THE APPEAL. UH, AND I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. UH, FIRST OF ALL, UM, IS IT POSSIBLE TO REQUIRE SOME MITIGATION, UH, OFFSITE OR ONSITE TO, TO REPLACE, UM, OAK TREES, UM, AT A FIVE TO ONE OR, OR SOME RATIO? IS THAT WITHIN THE ORDINANCE? AND SECOND OF ALL, IS THERE SOME WAY TO ENCOURAGE THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNER, UH, NOT TO CHOP IT UP FOR FIREWOOD, BUT FIND SOME ADAPTIVE USE OR PRODUCTIVE USE SO WE CAN, UH, KEEP THE CARBON SEQUESTRATION EITHER FURNITURE OR LUMBER OR ART OR SOMETHING? I HAVE A COMMENT. UH, SO THE PROCESS WILL, UM, ALLOW THE COMMITTEE TO, UH, DECIDE ON A MITIGATION CONDITION FOR REMOVAL. UM, SO THAT WOULD BE UP TO YOU, THE COMMITTEE TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO REQUIRE PLANTING ON THE LOT, UH, THEIR, UH, DONATION TO THE URBAN FORESTRY FUND OR ACCOMMODATION THEREOF. UM, AS FAR AS REMOVING THE TREE AND MAKING REQUIREMENTS OF WHAT THEY DO, UH, THERE'S NOTHING IN THE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD SUPPORT ANY KIND OF, UH, CONDITIONS OF, OF THAT REMOVAL. JUST THE REPLANT. YEP. SO I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST IF THE TREE IS REMOVED, BAY AREA REDWOOD IS A, UH, URBAN TREE RECOVERY PROJECT THAT WILL TAKE THE WOOD AND WILL WILL MILL IT AND WILL TURN IT INTO BEAUTIFUL FURNITURE, BENCHES, TABLES, ET CETERA. YOU DON'T WANT THAT OAK WOOD TO GO TO LANDFILL. OF COURSE. SO THANKS JOHN FOR THINKING OF THAT. THE, THERE IS MORE LIFE FOR THE WOOD IN THAT TREE. THAT IS, IT'S REALLY VALUABLE WOOD. [00:25:02] WE RECOGNIZE THAT TOO. UM, HE, IT'S A WOODWORKER AS WELL. AND WE DO PLANNING ON DONATING THE WOOD TOO. THAT'S GREAT. I WAS GONNA KEEP A, UH, WHAT I COULD TO LIKE, TRY TO MAKE A TABLE OR SOMETHING TO COMMEMORATE IT. TO COMMEMORATE IT. THAT'S, AND I ACTUALLY ALREADY BOUGHT, UM, IT'S LIKE AN ADDRESS MARKER. IT'S LIKE AN IRON ADDRESS MARKER. AND IT SAYS 6 9 1. AND IT HAS, IT'S, IT'S A OAK TREE DESIGN THAT I WAS GONNA BUILD AND PUT ON OUR FRONT GATE TOO. SO, UM, I'LL, I'LL KIND OF GIVE MY 2 CENTS. YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO DENYING IT'S A BEAUTIFUL TREE. I THINK EVERYONE, INCLUDING THE HOMEOWNERS ARE IN AGREEMENT. UM, BUT IT'S HUGE. UM, YOU KNOW, AND IT TAKES UP A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF YOUR LOT. UM, SO MY, MY PROPOSITION WOULD BE TO APPROVE THE, UH, APPROVE THE PERMIT WITH THE STIPULATIONS THAT YOU GUYS WOULD DONATE FIVE TREES TO THE URBAN FORESTRY FUND, WHICH IS A DOLLAR VALUE OF $50 PER TREE, I BELIEVE. IS THAT CORRECT? SO THAT WOULD BE A $250 DONATION, UH, TO THE URBAN FORESTRY FUND THAT WOULD ENABLE THE CITY TO PLANT FIVE MORE LIVE OAKS SOMEWHERE IN LIVERMORE. UM, AND THEN PLANT A NATIVE ON THE PROPERTY FROM THE APPROVED TREE LIST. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THE COMMITTEE WOULD HAVE TO VOTE, BUT THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION. IS THAT A MOTION? WELL, I, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT. UM, I THINK OAK TREES ARE WONDERFUL FOR THE HABITAT, BUT WHEN YOU'RE PICKING UP THE LEAVES, AS CAROL GARRISON HAS MENTIONED, IF YOU'RE PICKING UP THE LEAVES AND PICKING UP THE ACORNS, IT'S GIVES LESS VALUE TO THE HABITAT IF THE LEAVES ARE NO LONGER THERE. AND, YOU KNOW, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE PICKING UP THE LEAVES AND THINGS OF THAT SORT. SO IT'S NOT REALLY LENDING A, A GREAT DEAL TO THE HABITAT AT THIS POINT. BUT I, YOU KNOW, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL TREE AS WE ALL RECOGNIZE. BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR, YOUR CONCERN ON THAT. AND I WOULD BE INCLINED TO SUPPORT, UM, TAKING IT OUT. ON THE OTHER HAND, THERE'S A ARBOREAL LIFE THAT WOULD NOT HAVE, I KNOW. THAT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE REPLACED. RIGHT. SO, AND THE, AND THE BENEFIT OF THE TREE FOR OXYGEN AND CARBON SEQUESTRATION. YEAH. SO IT'S, IT'S A HUGE LOSS. BUT AS WE'RE SAYING, IT'S NOT IN THE RIGHT PLACE, UNFORTUNATELY. UH, SO I WILL, I WILL MOTION, UM, THEN A VOTE TO, UH, PERMIT REMOVAL OF THE TREE UNDER THE, UH, UNDER THE, UM, AGREEMENT THAT FIVE TREES WILL BE DONATED TO THE URBAN FORESTRY FUND AND A NATIVE TREE BE PLANTED ON THE PROPERTY FROM THE, UH, CITY APPROVED TREE LIST. SECOND HAS, HAS TO BE A NATIVE, I'LL SECOND THAT. UM, I, I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, ASK THE STAFF TO BE, ENSURE THAT THERE ARE FIVE OAK TREES PLANTED, NOT JUST FIVE TREES. MM-HMM . AND INAPPROPRIATE LOCATIONS AND SIZES. AND, UM, SO SECONDED BY JOHN. SO WE'LL TAKE THAT TO A VOTE DISCUSSION. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR THE, UM, PUBLIC OR VOLUNTEERS TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT PLANTING? OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT STAFF WOULD JUST WANNA HANDLE ON THEIR OWN? UM, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AT ANOTHER TIME, BUT THE, UH, SO FOR THIS, I'M SORRY. UH, SO FOR TONIGHT IT WOULD BE THE VOTING ON THE CONDITION AND THE DONATION, UM, AND THE PLANTING AND THE APPROVAL OF THE APPEAL. AND THEN AT ANOTHER TIME, WE CAN TALK ABOUT ONCE THAT DONATION IS MADE, HOW THAT PLANTING WILL LOOK. RIGHT. BECAUSE WE HAVE ALSO THE TREES FROM THE PREVIOUS TREE. SURE. SO IT WOULD BECOME A REALLY JOYFUL COMMUNITY EVENT IF WE WANT TO MAKE IT THAT WAY. YEAH. THE COMMITTEE COULD DEFINITELY BRING THAT UP IN A FUTURE MEETING. THAT, THAT PORTION OF IT, IT WOULDN'T BE A CONDITION OF THIS. RIGHT. RIGHT. YEAH. UH, OF TONIGHT. THANK YOU. SO NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. WE'LL TAKE IT TO A VOTE CHAIR BRADLEY. AYE. VICE AIRCRAFT AYE. COMMITTEE MEMBER BROWN. AYE. COMMITTEE MEMBER JEFFERSON AYE. COMMITTEE MEMBER WONG AYE. COMMITTEE MEMBER STEIN. AYE. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. LIKE KAREN SAID, THANK YOU FOR GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS [00:30:01] AND NOT JUST CUTTING IT DOWN AND, YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH IT LATER. DEFINITELY. WE APPRECIATE IT. WE APPRECIATE IT WHEN PEOPLE GO THROUGH THE, THE PROCESS. THANK YOU. YEAH, THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOUR INVESTMENT IN LEARNING OUR STORY AND OUR, OUR REASON AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GO FOR IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, TIM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO. THANKS TIM. THANKS, JOE. THANK YOU, TIM. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, SO PROGRESSING ONTO, UH, ITEM FOUR, 4.3, UH, WHICH IS DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION ON VOLUNTEER LITTER COLLECTION EVENT PROGRAM. YEAH. THANK YOU, TOM. UM, SO THE, UH, CITY HAS BEEN HOSTING, UM, SOME LITTER, VOLUNTEER LITTER EVENTS, UM, OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. AND, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE, UH, HAVE A, UH, A STAKE IN THIS AND PARTICIPATE. AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR, UH, THE COMMITTEE TO MANAGE THIS. AND, UH, IF YOU GUYS UPON DISCUSSION ARE INTERESTED IN DOING THIS, UH, IDENTIFY SOMEBODY WHO WOULD BE THE, THE CHAIR BASICALLY OF THIS PROGRAM FOR YEAR. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE VOTED ON, UH, EACH YEAR ANNUALLY. UM, CURRENTLY THERE ARE TWO TO THREE EVENTS, UM, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, USUALLY ON A WEEKEND TO ACCOMMODATE MORE PEOPLE. AND SO WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. UM, THE, THE LOCATION COULD BE IDENTIFIED BY THE, THE COMMITTEE AS WELL AS THE DATE. UM, AND STAFF WOULD HELP SUPPORT, UH, WITH TOOLS AND, UH, UH, COORDINATING IT WITH THE SIGNUP, UH, THAT WE CURRENTLY USE, UH, ONLINE. SO I WANNA OPEN THAT UP FOR DISCUSSION AMONGST YOU GUYS. DO WE HAVE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SELF NOMINATE? I CAN'T, I CAN'T IMAGINE ANYONE IN THIS COMMITTEE WANTING TO DO THIS. . I ABSOLUTELY WANT TO DO IT. ? YES. ALL RIGHT. WELL THAT'S EASY. WHAT A SURPRISE. . I MOVE THAT WE NOMINATE ANDY FOR THE LITTER COMMITTEE CHAIR. YEAH, I THINK I MOVE . THAT'S I SECOND . DO WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON THAT OR CAN WE COME TO A MUTUAL AGREEMENT THAT, AND ANDY, DO YOU ACCEPT? OH, ABSOLUTELY. . FANTASTIC. A HUNDRED PERCENT. ACTUALLY NO, 120%. DO YOU GET TO WEAR A CROWN ? NO KINKS. SO DO WE NEED TO VOTE OR NO, WE DON'T NEED TO VOTE ON THIS. OKAY, SURE. I THINK WE'RE ALL IN MUTUAL AGREEMENT THAT ANDY. YES, ANDY WILL BE THE BEST, UH, GUY, BEST COMMITTEE MEMBER TO HANDLE THAT. IS THIS AN AD HOC COMMITTEE OR IS THIS A NO, NO, IT'S JUST A, A CHAIR OF A, AN EFFORT. YEAH. THAT'S GREAT. OKAY. AND THEN, UH, WE CAN COME BACK AT A FUTURE MEETING AND DISCUSS, UM, LOCATIONS AND, AND SOME TIMEFRAMES. I DON'T THINK MORE THAN THREE HAVE BEEN DONE IN A YEAR, BUT THAT'LL BE UP TO YOU, YOU GUYS WITH YOUR, UH, AVAILABILITY AND RESOURCES. UH, TEST. TEST. CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YEAH, YOU CAN. YEAH. SO I'M REALLY IN FAVOR OF THIS, NOT JUST BECAUSE I LOVE LITTER, BUT YOU KNOW, A FEW MONTHS AGO I HAD THE HONOR TO HELP, UH, RUN ONE OF THE EVENTS FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE DAY. AND WHAT I SAW WAS VERY HEARTWARMING, SEEING SO MANY PEOPLE COME BECAUSE WE ALL WANT A CLEAN LIVER MORE, NOT JUST FOR OURSELVES, BUT FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY. AND SO OUR KIDS, FUTURE GENERATIONS, THEY CAN THRIVE IN A CLEAN ENVIRONMENT AND WE CAN TEACH PEOPLE THAT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A CLEAN ENVIRONMENT. AND I BELIEVE THAT THESE EVENTS WILL HELP WITH THAT, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, I SEE THE POTENTIAL FOR THESE EVENTS TO BE, YOU KNOW, TO, YOU KNOW, INVOLVE MORE LIKE STUDENTS, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST COMMUNITY MEMBERS. I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO TEACH ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP AND WHY WE SHOULD CARE ABOUT OUR OWN ENVIRONMENT. SO I JUST SEE A LOT MORE BENEFITS TO THIS. AND FURTHERMORE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THE TRASH GOES SOMEWHERE. IF WE JUST LEAVE IT OUT ON THE ROADWAY, IT MIGHT END UP IN THE RIVER CREEK OR EVEN THE BAY. SO WE WANNA SHOW THAT TAKING ACTION NOW WILL PREVENT [00:35:01] PROBLEMS FROM RISING IN THE FUTURE. SO I'M FULLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS AND I THINK IT'S ALSO GOOD OPPORTUNITY. YOU KNOW, WE CAN ALSO INCORPORATE LIKE TEACHING PEOPLE ABOUT LIKE PLANTS, TREES AS WELL, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH LITTER AROUND THOSE AREAS AS WELL. SO I JUST THINK THIS DOESN'T JUST HAVE TO BE A LITTER VENT, IT CAN JUST BE LIKE, IT CAN BE, WE CAN EXPAND UPON IT AS WELL. FANTASTIC. GREAT, GREAT INITIATIVE. THANK YOU ANDY. WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO A FUTURE MEETING, UH, TO DISCUSS THE LOGISTICS OF, OF THAT. GREAT. THANK YOU. ACTUALLY, ONE MORE QUESTION. SO HOW, UM, HOW DO I DESCRIBE THIS? UM, SO ARE WE LI SO WHEN WE SAY A MINIMUM OF TWO LITTER COLLECTION EVENTS EACH YEAR, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY SERVICE DAY ONE OR NO? I GUESS IT'S, NO, IT DOESN'T. THIS IS A SEPARATE, UH, EFFORT. OKAY. SO THIS, SO, OKAY, GOTCHA. SO IT WOULD JUST BE ITS OWN KIND OF THING? YES. OKAY. GOTCHA. THANK YOU. UH, MOVING ON, 0.4, 0.4 RECOMMENDATION THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE REVISED RULES OF PROCEDURE, WHICH I BELIEVE ARE INCLUDED IN THE PACKET. YEP. YEAH, SO FOR THOSE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT WERE ON THE COMMITTEE BACK WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS IN 2024, UH, THE ONLY RECOMMENDED CHANGES ARE FROM THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE. AND THOSE, UH, CHANGES ARE FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE RECENTLY ADOPTED CITY COUNCIL VALUES, NORMS, AND PRINCIPLES OF GOVERNANCE, THE CITY COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE AND, UH, THE STRATEGIC PLAN. SO THE RED LINES IN RED WERE THE PREVIOUS EDITS MADE IN 2024 BY THE, UH, BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE. THE ONE, THE CHANGES THAT WERE IN BLUE WERE FROM THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE. AND SO, UH, WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE APPROVED BY EACH OF THE ADVISORY BODIES, UH, TO MOVE THEM TO THE COUNCIL MEETING. AND THEY WILL BE REVIEWING THIS IN EARLY 2026. SO THE CHANGES, UH, THAT ARE IN THERE ARE BASED ON ROSENBERG RULES OF PROCEDURE. UM, AND I, THE ONLY ONES I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT ARE, UH, THE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, WHICH WERE, UH, REVIEWED BY THE COMMITTEE IN 2023. AND THEN THERE'S UPDATES TO THE, UH, MATTERS INITIATED PROCESS WHERE, UH, AT THE END OF THE MEETING, WHEN WE DISCUSS THE AGENDA ITEMS FOR FUTURE MEETINGS, ANYTHING THAT IS, UH, DISCUSSED TO BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM NEEDS TO HAVE A MAJORITY OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UH, INTERESTED IN, IN BRINGING THAT TO A FUTURE MEETING. COULD I, IS IT APPROPRIATE TO ASK QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT? YEAH. YEAH, I THINK SO. YEAH. I SEE THAT ONE OF THE BLUE LINES UNDER, UM, I KAREN G UNDER OUR, UM, CAN YOU USE THE MICROPHONE, KAREN? PARDON ME? THANK YOU. I SEE THAT, UM, ONE OF THE BLUE CHANGES MM-HMM . OR, UM, OMISSIONS NOW, OR IT'S BEING STRUCK WAS UNDER G UNDER OUR RULES IN, UH, PAGE 21. YEAH. PAGE MM-HMM. 21. YES. IS, UH, EXEMPLIFY, SELECT, AND PRESENT BEAUTIFICATION AWARD PROCEDURES. THAT, AND WHAT'S BEING CUT IS EXEMPLIFY DROUGHT TOLERANT NATIVE PLANT PLANT PLANTINGS TO REDUCE OR ELIMINATE TURF END. AND I'M CURIOUS WHY THAT, UH, IS BEING STRICKEN. IS THAT NO LONGER A, UM, A, UH, PRIORITY OR WHY IS THAT BEING, UH, TAKEN OUT? I WONDERED THAT. SELECT AND PRESENT BEAUTIFICATION. I DO SEE THAT'S IN BLUE. UH, UH, WE'RE ON PAGE THREE TO THE PDF. IT'S ACTUALLY PAGE TWO. PAGE TWO. YEAH, IT'S PAGE TWO. SORRY, IT'S TWO. SO CAN YOU CLARIFY WHO WROTE THE BLUE FONT TEXT? I THINK THE BLUE IS WHAT WAS SUGGESTED BY THE COMMITTEE AND THE CLERK'S OFFICES. WHO IS REMOVED? THE BLUE IS FROM THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE. AND THAT WILL BE THE SAME ACROSS THE BOARD FOR ALL THE ADVISORY BODIES, EXCEPT FOR THE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES. YOU MEAN THE BLUE STRIKEOUT OR THE BLUE? IT'S THE BLUE STRIKEOUT ORIGINAL TEXT. I JUST, ALL THE BLUE TEXT. SO I'M CURIOUS WHY THE BLUE STRIKE? WHY IN PARTICULAR THEY'RE STRIKING OUT, UH, DROUGHT TOLERANT [00:40:01] PLANTS, NATIVE PLANTINGS. I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT'S IN BLUE. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. UM, WE THINK WE ADDED THAT AND THAT THE CLERK HAD THAT. UNLESS, THE WAY I'M UNDERSTANDING IS IT WAS ADDED BY THE COMMITTEE, IT'S IN BLUE BECAUSE THE CLERK STRUCK IT OUT MAYBE. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ASSUME. AND I'M CURIOUS WHY THE CLERKS, DR. MY QUESTION IS, WHY IS IT, IT, IT STRUCK OUT? THAT'S MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT NO LONGER A VALUE, UH, IN THE CITY OR, UM, OR, OR WAS IT OVERLY RESTRICTIVE? ARE WE ABLE TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THE I CAN MAKE A PREDICTION. WE CAN, WE CAN ASK. HMM. CAN WE CALL A FRIEND ? OH, YEAH, YEAH. IS THIS SOMETHING ON? UM, YEAH, I'M, I'M THINKING THAT IT, I I DON'T KNOW IF THE, THE COMMITTEE TALKED ABOUT, UM, KIND OF OPENING UP THE CRITERIA AND NOT HAVING THIS, UH, SO IT'S NOT RESTRICTED TO JUST THESE THINGS OR IF, OR IF THE CITY CLERK MIGHT, MIGHT HAVE THOUGHT THAT IT WAS RESTRICTED. BUT WE CAN FIND OUT. 'CAUSE I'M NOT CLEAR, UH, HOW THAT, WHY THAT WAS STRUCK OUT. I I THINK THAT ONE OF THE REASONS I WANNA BE ON THIS COMMITTEE IS TO ENCOURAGE OUR CITY TO BECOME MORE DROUGHT TOLERANT AND RESILIENT MM-HMM . AND SO THAT BY PROVIDING EXAMPLES OF HOW BEAUTIFUL THESE PROPERTIES CAN LOOK, WE'RE FORWARDING THE RESILIENCE OF OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND ALSO PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, WITH NATIVE PLANTS MORE BIODIVERSITY AND MITIGATION FOR LOSING TREES LIKE WE JUST LOST. SO I'M PRETTY, I FEEL PRETTY STRONGLY THAT SHOULD STAY. I AGREE. I AGREE. I SUPPORT THAT. YEAH. WE CAN GET FEEDBACK FROM, UM, FROM THE CITY. THERE'S ALSO, I KNOW, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE POINT ABOVE THAT FOR FK TOO, AND IT, UH, I SEE THAT, UH, EARTH DAY IS ALSO REMOVED FROM, UH, THE POINT ABOVE FK. CAN YOU SEE THAT? MM-HMM . I CAN SPEAK TO THAT. SO THE, THE COMMUNITY SERVICE DAY HAS, HAS WAS ALWAYS, UH, OR WAS PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED AROUND THE SAME TIME. AND, UH, I THINK THAT HAS OVERTAKEN ANY EARTH DAY ACTIVITIES. OKAY. UH, AND I DON'T THINK WE REALLY HAVE A, A FORMAL EARTH DAY CELEBRATION. WE FOCUS MORE ON ARBOR DAY. RIGHT. OKAY. RIGHT. UM, SO THAT'S THAT. I DO SEE THAT THE LANGUAGE IN, UH, BLUE FOR ITEM G UH, WAS ADDED BY STAFF BACK IN 2023. AND SO, UM, IF YOU GUYS ARE, ARE WANTING TO KEEP THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHY IT GOT, UH, UH, STRUCK HERE, BUT, UH, WE CAN KEEP IT, WE CAN REJECT THAT CHANGE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE. DO WE NEED TO VOTE? DO WE VOTE ON REJECTING THAT CHANGE? THAT CAN BE PART OF THE MOTION, YEAH. OKAY. IF EVERYTHING EL IF YOU HAVE NO OTHER CHANGES, I, I ASSUME AFTER THESE ARE VOTED ON BY CITY COUNCIL, THEN THIS COMMITTEE WILL NO LONGER DO, UH, TREE APPEALS. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. AND THAT'S TO ALIGN WITH THE, UH, CHANGES TO THE TREE ORDINANCE THAT ARE, THAT ARE HAPPENING FORTHCOMING. AND WHEN IS THAT GOING TO BE? UH, I DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE ON THAT. UM, UH, IT'S PROJECTED TO GO TO COUNSEL, SORRY. IT'S PROJECTED TO GO TO COUNSEL, UH, TOWARDS THE BEGINNING OF 2026, SO POSSIBLY FEBRUARY, MARCH. THAT'S THE PLAN AS OF NOW, THAT THAT CAN ALWAYS CHANGE PROBABLY. AND IS THIS GOING TO, UH, WHEN WILL THIS BE APPROVED? AT THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING OR 2026? EARLY 26. OH, OKAY. SO THEY'RE OKAY. ALRIGHT. CAN I CLARIFY? SO WHERE, WHAT IS THE CHANGE THEN WITH TREE APPEALS? WHO WILL BE HEARING THEM? WHO WILL BE, BE HEARING THEM? YES. A PAID CONSULTANT THAT'LL BE PART OF THE NEW TREE ORDINANCE. ONCE THAT'S APPROVED, WHAT, WHO WILL BE HEARING THEM? WHAT DOES THE TREE ORDINANCE SAY? I DON'T KNOW. WELL, COULD WE FIND OUT, WE KNOW, DO WE GET INFORMATION ON THE TREE ORDINANCE? UH, WE COULD BRING THAT QUESTION BACK TO CITY STAFF AND, AND SEE WHERE THEY'RE AT WITH THE DRAFT ORDINANCE. WILL THERE BE AN APPEAL? THERE [00:45:01] WILL BE AN APPEAL PROCESS. THE, THE POINT IN TAKING IT OUT IS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING, UH, WITH THE OTHER ADVISORY BODIES AND COUNCIL MM-HMM . BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO HAVE WORKED FAIRLY WELL. I THINK. WHAT, WHAT IS THE CON COULD YOU GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ABOUT WHAT THE CONSISTENCY IS? YEAH. WHAT, WHAT DO THE OTHER BODIES SEE APPEALS FOR? UM, IS THERE SOMETHING COMPARABLE AND WITH THE, UM, MUNICIPAL CODE, IT'LL BE CONSISTENT WITH, WITH THAT. UH, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED IN 2024, SO, UM, I CAN'T RECALL EXACTLY WHAT THE PROCESS IS OR WHAT THE NEW ORDINANCE IS GOING TO SAY. UM, THE, THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT IS THAT NOT A LOT IF ANY OF OTHER ADVISORY BODIES ARE DOING APPEALS PROCESSES. SO WE'RE NOT DOING 'EM EITHER AND WE'RE GETTING IN LINE WITH EVERY OTHER COMMITTEE. YEAH. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. AND YOU'RE GOING AND THEY'LL BE A PAID CONSULTANT THAT DOES THE, THE APPEAL PROCESS? WE DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW. CONSULTANT IF IT'S GONNA BE ASSIGNED TO A DEPARTMENT, CITY, DEPARTMENT OF CITY STAFF MEMBER, WE'RE NOT SURE. OKAY. THE ONLY FINITE IS IT WILL NOT BE A COMMITTEE, IT WILL BE SOMEONE THAT'S APPOINTED BY THE CITY. RIGHT. AS WITH ALL THE OTHER COMMITTEES, WE'RE JUST KIND OF FALLING IN LINE WITH THAT. OKAY. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S MANY CHANGES AFTER THE FIRST NO. AND CERTAINLY THE RULES, RIGHT. WHAT OUR SCOPE IS, IS REALLY THERE'S PRIMARY, THE MOST IMPORTANT, UH, YEAH. THING MAKE SURE I DO SEE IN THE AGENDA FOR THE FEBRUARY, 2024 MEETING, UM, THAT THAT LINE IS STILL IN THE, UH, DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, THE KEEPING THE DROUGHT TOLERANT, NATIVE PLANTINGS TO REDUCE OR ELIMINATE TURF. SO I THINK THIS WAS JUST A, AN ACCIDENT THAT, THAT GOT TAKEN OUT. OH, OKAY. QUESTION? YEAH. UH, ON, UH, PAGE ONE, ITEM F, WHY WAS, UH, UM, AT LEAST A REVIEW OF THE PUBLIC, UH, UH, CONTROLLED LANDSCAPING ASSOCIATED WITH COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL PROJECTS REMOVED, WHAT LETTER WAS THAT? UH, ITEM F ON PAGE ONE? UH, IT WOULD SEEM LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO, UH, UH, AT LEAST LOOK AT BEAUTIFICATION AND, UM, I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, UM, DO MORE THAN COMMENT, BUT, UM, WE SHOULD AT LEAST REVIEW JUST LIKE, UH, DESIGN GUIDELINES AND WHEN, WHEN THEY'RE CHANGED, UH, WE CAN BRING THAT BACK. BUT I, I DON'T THINK THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS HISTORICALLY REVIEWED, UH, PLANS THAT COME INTO THE CITY, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND PLANNING COMMISSION. NO, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD REVIEW PLANS, BUT THE STANDARDS, THE ACTUAL DESIGN GUIDELINES ARE, IT'S NOT THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS. MM-HMM . OKAY. UM, I, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS COMMITTEE'S EVER REVIEWED THE GUIDELINES FOR THAT DESIGN GUIDELINES HAVEN'T CHANGED IN LIKE FIVE OR SIX YEARS AT LEAST. OKAY. I'M LONGER, I'M THINKING HAVE THEY, HAVE THEY MAYBE TAKEN THAT OUT AND ROLLED IT INTO POINT A? SO, POINT A IS PROVIDE INPUT ON LANDSCAPING AND CLIMATE MITIGATION PROJECTS ON CITY OWNER CONTROL PROPERTIES. NO. THO THOSE ARE, UH, CITY PROJECTS AND THEY'RE PROJECTS, NOT STANDARDS MM-HMM . YEAH. SIMILAR TO LIKE TREE ORDINANCE. RIGHT, RIGHT. LIKE WE, WE MAY NOT HAVE ANY, WE, WE DON'T REVIEW PROJECTS, BUT WE DO REVIEW STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES, STANDARDS GUIDE THE UNDERLYING, YOU KNOW, GUIDELINES OF, OF WHAT'S, UH, APPROPRIATE. AND WE DON'T NECESSARILY, UH, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY FIXED INPUT, BUT WE DO REVIEW THEM. I THINK THAT IT'S HISTORICALLY BEEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT REVIEWS THE GUIDELINES, THE STANDARDS. NO, IT'S DON'T, IT WAS, IT WAS OBVIOUSLY IN THE, UM, BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE. AND I DO REMEMBER, UH, LIKE 20 YEARS AGO DOING IT, WE HAD, YOU KNOW, SIZE OF TREES AND STAKING AND, UM, WHAT, WHAT WOULD ENSURE SURVIVAL AND, UM, WHAT, WHAT TYPES OF TREES SHOULD BE PICKED TO, UH, AVOID, UH, UM, PROBLEMS WITH DISEASE OR IRRIGATION OR, IT WAS A LONG TIME AGO, BUT IT WAS PART OF THE BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE. I THINK IT WAS JUST IDENTIFIED AS SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T COME UP VERY FREQUENTLY. [00:50:01] AND IT WAS THE, OH, THERE ALSO, UM, ALSO, UH, SEVERAL OF THESE THINGS, UM, AS IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME AS WELL, UH, BACK WHEN THESE MIGHT HAVE BEEN PART OF THE COMMISSION, THE CITY DID NOT EMPLOY STAFF THAT SPECIALIZED IN THESE THINGS. UM, OUR DEPARTMENTS HAVE GROWN, OR PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS GROWN, UM, BROUGHT IN PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT EXPERTISE. OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT HAS GROWN. WE NOW EMPLOY SIX CERTIFIED ARBORISTS. UM, SO I, I BELIEVE THAT A LOT OF THESE THINGS WERE DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE CITY DID NOT STAFF THESE TYPES OF POSITIONS TO DO THESE TYPES OF REVIEWS. THAT MAKES SENSE. MUCH MORE MATURE CITY WHEN YOU TALK TO PLANT COULD BE LANDSCAPE. THERE MIGHT BE SOME BENEFIT OF THE, I I'LL SHOW IT TO YOU LATER. OH, THANK YOU. UH, WHEN, UH, THE AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATIVE PLANTS IN IS DISCUSSING LANDSCAPING ISSUES AND PLAN WITH PLANNING, ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT, UM, A PLANNER MADE WAS THAT THERE WAS NO LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT ON STAFF. AND THAT THAT CERTAINLY IS, UM, NOT, I WON'T USE THE WORD LIMITATION, BUT, UH, AN ISSUE. UM, AND IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE COULD ASSIST IN THAT WAY. BUT, UH, SO I'M JUST POINTING THAT OUT THAT I KNOW THAT THE CITY HAS RAMPED UP, BUT NOT THERE ARE STILL OMISSIONS, UH, AT LEAST IN, IN, UH, THE PLANNING AREA AS FAR AS LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE. I'M WONDERING IF MAYBE THAT'S UNCOVERED UNDER B POINT B REVIEW, LANDSCAPING AND CLIMATE MITIGATION PROJECTS WITH EMPHASIS ON NATIVE PLANTS AND DROUGHT TOLERANT SPECIES, PERHAPS. BUT I THINK I GET BACK TO THE STANDARDS ISSUE. YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE STANDARDS THAT PLANNING ACTUALLY USES, UH, WHEN DEVELOPERS DEVELOP PROJECTS FOR, YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPING AND THINGS OF THAT SORT, WHAT ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS? UM, SO YEAH, YOU ARE CORRECT THAT THE CITY DOES NOT EMPLOY A LICENSED LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT. UM, THEY DO HAVE SEVERAL AGREEMENTS WITH DIFFERENT FIRMS THAT PROVIDE THAT SERVICE. UM, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT A COMMITTEE WOULD, WOULD CHECK THE BOX ON ANY REQUIREMENTS OF A LICENSED LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT. UM, BUT WE DO THE C THE CITY WHEN, WHEN NEEDED, UH, HAS THOSE AT THEIR, UH, WITHIN THEIR REACH THROUGH AGREEMENTS WITH LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE FIRMS. YEAH. I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, COMMENTING THAT MIGHT HAVE SOME VALUABLE INPUT FOR STANDARDS. OKAY. UM, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, THE, THE TREE ISSUE COMING UP AND, UH, THE, THE, UH, THE STANDARDS THAT ARE GOING TO BE DEVELOPED FOR THAT, NOT THE STANDARDS, BUT THE, THE RULES AND REGULATIONS. THE ORDINANCE. YEAH. NOT NECESS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD NECESSARILY RECOMMEND, BUT AT LEAST REVIEW AND COMMENT, REVIEW, REVIEW AND COMMENT. AND THAT, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A COMMENT. IS THERE AN OPTION TO ADD THAT IN INSTEAD OF, INSTEAD OF RECOMMEND REVIEW AND COMMENT, LANDSCAPING STANDARDS ON LANDSCAPING STANDARDS? IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD RECOMMEND? YES, THAT COULD BE PART OF THE MOTION. WE COULD PUT THAT IN. WE COULD PUT THAT IN THE MOTION. SO AS OPPOSED TO RECOMMEND. RIGHT. WHAT WAS THE REVIEW AND COMMENT? REVIEW AND COMMENT. I THINK IT'S A GOOD LETTER. F RIGHT? YEAH. ON F SO IT WOULD BE REVIEW AND COMMENT ON LANDSCAPING STANDARDS FOR PUBLICLY CONTROLLED LANDSCAPING ASSOCIATED WITH COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT. I LIKE THAT. IS THERE ANY MORE, UM, ANY MORE ISSUES OTHER THAN THE TWO WE'VE KIND OF IDENTIFIED THAT PEOPLE ARE, THAT PEOPLE WANTED TO PUT INTO A MOTION? I DON'T KNOW IF IT SHOULD BE IN THE MOTION, BUT I'D LIKE TO AT LEAST THE, UM, NOT NECESSARILY RECOMMEND, BUT, UH, INVESTIGATE FURTHER THE APPEALS PROCESS. I MEAN, EVEN THOUGH IT'S INCONSISTENT WITH THE, UH, UM, CITY ORDINANCE, PERHAPS, UH, IT HAS WORKED WELL. I'M NOT SURE, YOU KNOW, AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT WOULD BE AS ACCEPTABLE TO THE COMMUNITY, [00:55:03] BUT THEY'RE SAYING YOU'RE NOT SURE IT'S GONNA BE AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT YET. YOU HAVEN'T CONFIRMED THAT. I DON'T KNOW. YEAH, THAT WAS, I KNOW THEY'RE WORKING ON THE LANGUAGE, BUT I DON'T, IT'S NOT, NOT FINAL. IT SHOULDN'T BE PART OF THE MOTION, BUT I, I, I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER THAT COMMENT. MM-HMM . UM, OKAY. I WILL, I WILL PROPOSE A MOTION THEN TO APPROVE WITH THE CHANGES, UM, TO POINT F. UM, WE PROPOSE TO KEEP THAT, BUT CHANGE IT TO REVIEW AND COMMENT ON LANDSCAPING STANDARDS FOR PUBLICLY CONTROLLED LANDSCAPING ASSOCIATED WITH COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN FOR POINT G, UH, SORRY, 0.1 G. SO THAT'S ONE F. AND THEN FOR ONE G, UM, TO KEEP IN THE BEAUTIFICATION AWARDS TO, UH, PROPERTIES THAT EXEMPLIFY DROUGHT TOLERANT AND NATIVE PLANTINGS TO REDUCE OR ELIMINATE TURF AND ENHANCE STEADY AESTHETICS. THAT'S MY MOTION WITH THOSE TWO. THOSE TWO, TWO CHANGES. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? THAT MOTION? I'M TAKE THAT TO A VOTE CHAIR BRADLEY. AYE. VICE CHAIR CRAFT AYE. COMMITTEE MEMBER BROWN. AYE. COMMITTEE MEMBER JEFFERSON AYE. COMMITTEE MEMBER WONG AYE. COMMITTEE MEMBER STEIN. AYE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UP TO, UH, MOVING ON TO 0.4, 0.5, UH, WHICH IS APPOINT AN AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR ARBOR DAY 2026. DO WE HAVE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER TO BE IN AN AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR ARBOR DAY 2026? I WILL VOLUNTEER. I WILL VOLUNTEER. WE DO WE NEED THREE MEMBERS FOR THE AD HOC COMMITTEE? YES, WE DO. YES. NO. OKAY. I MEAN, IT'S IDEAL TO . I I WILL ALSO VOLUNTEER THEN. WE HAVE, THAT'S OUR THREE. THANK YOU. UM, WE, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE ON THAT. WE'LL JUST COME TO A, AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COMMITTEE THAT THE, THE AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR THE 2026 ARBOR DAY FESTIVITIES WILL BE COMMITTEE MEMBER, BROWN COMMITTEE MEMBER STEIN, AND MYSELF. GREAT. UH, THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO 0.4, 0.6, UH, 2025 BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE, ANNUAL UPDATE AND BEAUTIFICATION AWARDS PRESENTATION. IS THAT ME? YEAH. UM, I HAVE THE SCRIPT. DO YOU WANT ME TO, DO YOU WANT ME TO READ THROUGH THE SCRIPT AND PEOPLE CAN INPUT IF, IF ANYONE WANTS TO INPUT ON ANYTHING, OR DO WE WANT TO BRING UP POINTS? UH, WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT? MARISSA, YOU COULD JUST BRING UP THE POST. JUST GIVE A SUMMARY OF KIND OF WHAT I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT. SURE, SURE. UM, SO IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT KAREN DID LAST YEAR. I WATCHED THE VIDEO AND YET IT INSPIRED ME, . UM, SO THE, THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THE COMMITTEE, UH, THAT I HAVE TO DISCUSS FROM 2025 OR THE ARBOR DAY, 2025, UH, YOU KNOW, WE PROVIDED 19 TREES ACROSS 11 SCHOOL CAMPUSES. UM, WE HAD SCHOOL PLANTINGS, UM, STREET TREE REPLACEMENT LISTS WAS COMPLETED. UM, COULD I INTERJECT AT THAT POINT? BECAUSE I THINK, I THINK ANNE DID, UH, AN INCREDIBLE JOB, UH, WITH A POETRY WITH ARBOR DAY. AND I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE YEAH. INCLUDED IN THAT, THE POETRY. AND I THINK, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUE UH, PICTURES FROM THAT, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. YEAH. TO PUT, UH, SEND 'EM OVER IN THE, UH, IN THIS, UH, IN THIS FROM SYCAMORE TOO. OH, SURE. YEAH. YEAH. BECAUSE I, I I THINK IT'S JUST MORE THAN JUST YEAH. PLANTING TREES. YOU, YOU DID AN INCREDIBLE JOB OF, UH, GATHERING. THERE WAS AN, A COMMITTEE DID AN INCREDIBLE JOB OF, YOU KNOW, WITH A POETRY, THERE WAS AN ART DISPLAY TOO. MM-HMM . YEAH. YEP. YEAH. I HAVE PICTURES. PERFECT. I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU TO NO, NO. I'M, I THIS IS WHY WE'RE DOING IT. I SEND IT OVER. YEAH. I REALLY THINK NO, THAT'D BE GREAT. AND I THINK IN INCLUDING THE PICTURES FROM SYCAMORE GROWTH, THE, THE DAY OF WOULD BE, UH, WONDERFUL. NO, FANTASTIC. YEAH. SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT, BECAUSE IT WAS, THEY WERE PROVIDED BY NONPROFIT, IF THAT COUNTS AS A BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE, BUT IT WAS PART OF [01:00:01] ARBOR DAY IN THE COMMUNITY. MM-HMM . WAS THE DISTRIBUTION OF FREE TREES TO CHILDREN BY TRI-VALLEY AIR QUALITY CLIMATE ALLIANCE. AND YOU WERE A BIG PART OF THAT TOO. YEAH. AS A COMMITTEE MEMBER. YEAH. I COORDINATED THAT. SO IF WE WANT TO SHOW COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT BEYOND JUST THE COMMITTEE, THAT'S ANOTHER, THAT'S AN EXAMPLE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S APPROPRIATE OR NOT, BUT ARE WE ONLY FOCUSED ON WHAT THE COMMITTEE ACTUALLY DID? OR, I WOULD SAY YES, BUT AS ANN IS A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, WOULD THAT QUALIFY YES. TO DO OUTREACH, I THINK FOR THE COMMITTEE PORTION OF IT, YES. THE COMMITTEE COMMITTEE HELPED ORGANIZE IT. YEAH. I WOULD SAY I THINK SO. OUTREACH. OKAY. GREAT. NO, IF YOU CAN EMAIL A SUMMARY AND THEN PICTURES AND ABSOLUTELY. LET'S ADD THAT IN. ESPECIALLY OF THE ARTWORK. I THINK THAT WOULD BE, UH, THE ARTWORK AND MAYBE A, AN EXAMPLE OF A POEM THAT WOULD, I I JUST THINK THAT INVOLVING CHILDREN AND KIDS YEAH. IS JUST WONDERFUL. IT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. I DO TOO. THANK YOU. UH, KAREN AND ANN. MM-HMM . GOOD. GREAT SUGGESTION. UM, STREET TREE REPLACEMENT LIST. SO AD HOC COMMITTEE PUT TOGETHER THE STREET TREE REPLACEMENT LIST AND GOT THAT OVER TO THE CITY COMMUNITY SERVICE DAY. UM, SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE VOLUNTEERED AT DIFFERENT SITES ON COMMUNITY SERVICE DAY DOING DIFFERENT THINGS. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE USE A PICTURE OF THE LITTER CLEANUP WITH, UH, GUY TO COME IN. THAT WAS THE ONLY PICTURE I HAD. BUT YES, I HAVE, IF YOU HAVE, I HAVE SOME PICTURES THAT I CAN SEND YOUR WAY. SEND THEM CLEANUP AND, UM, THERE'S, YEAH. YEAH. ANY, ANYTHING THAT COMMITTEE MEMBERS DID ON COMMUNITY SERVICE DAY. IF YOU HAVE PICTURES, WILL YOU SEND 'EM TO MARISSA? AND MARISSA CAN SEND 'EM TO ME SO I CAN ADD 'EM ONTO THIS SLIDE. THAT WAS JUST THE ONLY PICTURE I HAD FROM TIM. RIGHT. THAT'S PERFECT. YEAH. I, I JUST THOUGHT BECAUSE COMMITTEE MEMBER, UH, WANG, UH, OR WONG, I'M SORRY, ANDY WONG, UM, UH, ORGANIZED A LITTER CLEANUP AND WELL, WE MAY ALL, WE MAY ALSO BE ABLE TO USE THAT PICTURE FOR MY NEXT POINT. 'CAUSE THAT'S THE PERFECT SEGUE, . SO, UH, COMBATING ILLEGAL DUMPING ACROSS LIVERMORE, THAT WAS ONE OF THE POINTS I WANTED TO DISCUSS. UM, AGAIN, KIND OF BRINGING, UH, RECOGNITION TO, TO COMMITTEE MEMBER WONG ON HIS IDEAS TO PREVENT ILLEGAL DUMPING AND, YOU KNOW, DISPOSE OF, UH, BULKY ITEMS AND THE SIGNAGE WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON. WELL, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE TO INCLUDE A VIEW GRAPH ON, UH, THE SIGN PROPOSAL SIGN? YEAH. YOU KNOW, I THINK ANDY HAD, UH, A VIEW GRAPH THAT, UH, HAD, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THE SIGN SIGN, WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE, THE SIGNAGE. YEAH. I THINK THAT WOULD BE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. WAS THAT APPROVED YET? UH, STAFF IS STILL WORKING ON IT. SO I WOULD, UH, SUGGEST WE ADD IT TO NEXT YEAR, SINCE IT'S NOT FINAL AND NOT, UM, MAYBE A PICTURE OF NOT INSTALLED THE COMMITTEE NEXT TO THIS INSTALLED SIGN. THERE WE GO. . I LIKE THAT. OKAY. WE'RE FILLING OUT, WE'RE FILLING OUT OUR NEXT YEAR, UH, PRESENTATION. UM, AND THEN I HAVE 20, 25 BEAUTIFICATION AWARDS WHERE, UM, I KINDA LISTED, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PURPOSE OF THE AWARDS IS TO RECOGNIZE PROPERTIES THAT IMPROVE CURB APPEAL, RECOGNIZE DROUGHT TOLERANT LANDSCAPE RENOVATIONS, PROMOTE CREATIVITY AND COMMUNITY PRIDE, AND ENCOURAGE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION IN BEAUTIFYING LIVERMORE. AND THEN, UM, I HAVE THE LIST OF WINNERS AND JUST KIND OF THE, UH, SO LIKE YOU HAVE PICTURES? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. THERE'S PICTURES IN THERE TOO. AND THEN LIKE, FOR, FOR, I'LL JUST GIVE AN EXAMPLE. FIVE THREE. FIVE FOUR. SANDRA WAY. I JUST PLANNED TO SAY THEY CREATED A HABITAT FOR POLLINATORS, BUTTERFLIES AND OTHER WILDLIFE. MM-HMM . IT WAS KIND OF THE, THE, JUST THE BULLET POINTS FROM EACH WINTER. MM-HMM . YEAH. UM, AND THEN I HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 WINTERS MM-HMM . WHICH THEY'RE BEING PRESENTED I BELIEVE, AS WE GO THROUGH 'EM AT THE MEETING. YEAH. WE HAVE THE SIGNS. NOVEMBER 24TH. MM-HMM . AND WILL THERE BE SLIDES OF THEIR PROPERTIES SHOWING THE PICTURE? YEAH, THEY'RE IN THEIR COUNCIL. THEY'RE IN THEIR, YEAH, IF YOU, IF YOU FLICK. YEAH, I KNOW THEY'RE HERE, BUT WILL THEY BE AT, BUT THE MEETING, SO THIS PRESENTATION'S FOR THE MEETING. OKAY. IT'LL BE ON THE SCREEN. YEAH. YEAH. JUST CLARIFYING. YEAH. UM, AND THAT WAS, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOR, UH, THIS YEAR. OBVIOUSLY I PLAN TO ELABORATE MORE THAN I DID JUST SUMMARIZING. BUT, UH, THANK THE STAFF AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR THEIR SUPPORT. UM, FOR, FOR FOR ARBOR DAY. JUST ARBOR DAY AND FOR, UH, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR I DO, THEY HAD A SITE IN SERVICE DAY TOO. OKAY. [01:05:01] UH, SCHOOL STAFF. YEAH. I DO HAVE SOMETHING IN HERE FROM, UH, I HAVE LIVERMORE VALLEY JOINT UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY I HAVE THANK YOU TO PUBLIC WORKS AND OUR CITY LIAISONS TOO, FOR THE, UM, FOR WHAT THEY KINDA AND THE COMMUNITY. ARE YOU GOING TO MENTION ABOUT, UH, CHAIR BRADLEY DONATING, UH, TREES TO NO, NO, NO. . NO. IT'S JUST THE DONATION THAT LAST YEAR WE DID THE, THE ONE PLANTING UP THERE AND, AND WE WERE OUT THERE AND PLANTED. AND WHO WAS THE CITY BOARD MEMBER? OH, THE MEMBER. THE SPRINGTOWN COUNCIL MEMBER. COUNCIL MEMBERS. CHRISTIE WONG. CHRISTIE WONG. YEAH. CHRISTIE WONG IN SPRINGTOWN. YES. SPRINGTOWN. CHRISTIE WONG. CHRISTIE WONG HELPED US PLANT. I HAVE, I HAVE IN HERE, UH, COLLABORATED WITH CITY PUBLIC WORKS TO PROVIDE A DONATED TREE FOR PLANTING IN SPRINGTOWN OPEN SPACE. UM, AND I CAN WRITE IN THERE BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE MEMBER WONG WAS PRESENT COMMITTEE MEMBER. WONG. COUNCIL MEMBER? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER. COUNCIL MEMBER COMMITTEE. COMMITTEE MEMBER. COUNCIL MEMBER. I DIDN'T KNOW. HE DIDN'T, HE DIDN'T GO THERE. . YEAH, WE HAVE TO THAT'S RIGHT. A WONG ON EACH ONE. IS THERE A PICTURE OF THAT? WE HAVE A PICTURE OF THAT SUMMARY VIDEO. I HAVE A, I THINK I MIGHT INCLUDE THAT IF YOU HAVE IT. OKAY. WHEN YOU SEND OVER YOUR PICTURES, I CAN SWITCH SOME PICTURES AROUND. OKAY, GREAT. ARE, ARE YOU GOING TO POINT OUT THAT THESE TREES WERE PLANTED AT, UM, IS, ARE THOSE ONES FROM THE SCHOOL? YEAH, AT THE SCHOOL. YEAH. THERE WAS LIMITED PICTURES THEY TOOK MM-HMM . BUT ARE THEY NOT PLANTED IN SOME OF THE, I THOUGHT THEY WERE PLANTED ON SOME OF THE PICTURES, BUT, BUT I, I GUESS WHEN, WHEN YOU GIVE THE PRESENTATION, ARE YOU GOING TO SAY THAT THEY'RE, THEY A, A TREE WAS DONATED TO EACH OF THE, UH, THE SCHOOLS? YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. I HAVE IN HERE, SO I HAVE IN HERE THAT 19 TREES WERE DONATED ACROSS 11 SCHOOL CAMPUSES IN LIVERMORE. OKAY. WONDERFUL. AND THEN I HAVE SOMETHING, IT WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT TO PREVIOUS YEARS WHERE WE DID THE GIFT BAGS AND SEED GIVEAWAYS. UM, BUT IT WAS GREAT TO SEE STUDENTS GETTING HANDS-ON EXPERIENCE, UH, HELPING TO PLANT PLANTS AND WE DID OTHER ACTIVITIES WITH THE SYCAMORE, UM, PRESENTATION, THE POETRY, THE ART DISPLAY. YEAH. SO A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT LOOK ON. RIGHT, RIGHT. AND THEN HAVE VIEW GRAPHS FROM THAT DAY. MM-HMM . BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY WONDERFUL. YEAH. GREAT. SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD SUMMARY. I, UM, OKAY, SO MOVING ON TO, [5. COMMITTEE REPORTS AND MATTERS INITIATED BY STAFF AND COMMITTEE] UH, 0.5 COMMITTEE REPORTS AND MATTERS INITIATED BY STAFF AND COMMITTEE. ARE THERE THINGS ON THERE? UH, I THINK MARISSA WILL SUMMARIZE. SO, SO FAR FOR OUR DECEMBER MEETING, I'VE GOT BROWN ACT TRAINING WITH UH, UH, ONE OF OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S APPROVAL OF THE 2026 BC MEETING CALENDAR, BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE, 2026 WORK PLAN, DISCUSSION REVIEW OF THE HOLIDAY RECOGNITION PROGRAM AND COMMUNITY SERVICE AWARDS. THE DUE DATE FOR THE COMMUNITY SERVICE AWARDS IS, UH, ON THE 15TH NOVEMBER. SO WE'LL BE DISCUSSING YES. OF NOVEMBER. SO WE'LL BE DISCUSSING ALL THOSE, UM, NOMINATIONS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THEY WOULD LIKE? ARE WE ABLE TO INQUIRE HOW MANY NOMINATIONS WE HAVE OR THAT HAS TO BE, UH, IN THE NEXT MEETING? WE HAVE THREE SO FAR. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. COULD WE ADD, UM, I KIND OF WANT TO JUST GIVE AN UPDATE ON LIKE, KIND OF LIKE THE WHOLE QR CODE AND HOW WE CAN TRACK STATISTICS, ALL THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE AN UPDATE IN DECEMBER, IF THAT'S OKAY. UM, THE NEW POLICY IS THAT IT HAS TO BE, UH, UH, APPROVED BY THE, THE MAJORITY OF THE INFORM COMMITTEE MEMBERS INFORM, YEAH. OH, OKAY. INFORMALLY. OKAY. GOTCHA. YEAH, I'M, DO WE JUST AGREE WITH THAT? YEAH, FINE. YEAH. DO WE HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO ANDY DOING A, A SUMMARY OF QR CODES FOR DECEMBER? FOR JUST FOR HIS SIGNS? YEAH. HOW WE'RE GONNA COLLECT STATISTICS. YEAH. THAT SORT OF STUFF. HOW MUCH IT COST. ANDY, WOULD YOU BE OPPOSED TO HAVING THAT BE AN EMAIL UPDATE? IF YOU WANTED TO SEND THAT TO ME? I CAN DO AN EMAIL UPDATE. YEAH. OKAY. UM, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO KEEP THE MEETINGS TO ABOUT AN HOUR TO RESPECT EVERYBODY'S TIME. GOTCHA. AND WE DO HAVE FIVE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. OKAY. YEAH, THAT, THAT'S FINE. I CAN DO AN EMAIL. YEAH. DO I JUST EMAIL YOU DIRECTLY AND THEN YEAH, AND I CAN SEND THAT OUT TO EVERYBODY. OKAY, GOTCHA. I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, SUGGEST SOME ACTIVITIES AROUND ARBOR DAY AND WONDERING, I MEAN, THAT'S PLENTY OF TIME, RIGHT? SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE DISCUSSED NEXT MONTH, BUT IS THIS WHERE I SHOULD SUGGEST SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PUT IN JANUARY AS WELL, OR? I DO HAVE IT ON THE JANUARY AGENDA. UM, IF YOU'D LIKE [01:10:01] TO TALK ABOUT IT IN DECEMBER, THAT'S UP TO THE COMMITTEE. NO, I HAVE NEW IDEAS THAT ARE NOT YET ON AN AGENDA, SO I'M ASKING, I THINK, I THINK, CAN I PROPOSE THEM NOW OR WHAT'S THE PROCEDURE? I THINK WHAT TOPIC IS PROPOSED FOR THE JANUARY MEETING? YEAH, IT'S ON THE JANUARY MEETING. SO WE COULD TALK ABOUT IN THE JANUARY MEETING, WHAT'S ON THE JANUARY MEETING? A DAY? DISCUSS ARBOR DAY. OH, ARBOR DAY CELEBRATIONS. GOT IT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS THOSE IN DECEMBER? NO. IF JANUARY'S FINE. OKAY. UH, ANYTHING ELSE? ANY MORE INPUT OR, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS FROM COMMITTEE? OKAY, SO IT IS SEVEN 15 AND I WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING. THANK YOU, TOM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU STAFF. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MICS OFF. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.