* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [* This meeting has been joined in progress] [4. MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION] [00:00:08] AND THEN SOMETIMES THEY'LL ACTUALLY DONATE TO, SO IT JUST COULD, DEPENDS ON THE CBH OF THE TREE. OKAY. SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A MAX DONATION OF A HUNDRED DOLLARS, THEN LET'S SAY IF IT'S TWO 15 GALLON TREES, IT WOULD BE A HUNDRED DOLLARS TO THE CITY. OKAY. AND JUST, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE, SO WOULD WOULD ANOTHER OPTION BE MAKE, UH, THE MULTIPLE DONATIONS TO THE FUND AND NOT PLANNED ANYTHING? NOT THAT WE'RE GONNA DO THAT, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE ON THE TABLE. UM, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO PLANT A REPLANT A TREE MORE SUITABLE FOR THE PROPERTY. OKAY. AND MAKE THE DONATION. OKAY. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY ANY OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE. UH, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. YEAH. I THINK MM-HMM. IT, IT'S A, IT'S, IT LOOKS, THE TREE LOOKS GORGEOUS ON YOUR PROPERTY RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK NOT HAVING A TREE THERE WOULD BE, UH, UH, NOT AS WONDERFUL AS HAVING ONE. SO, SURE. WE AGREE. AGREE. BUT YEAH. YEAH. BUT ALSO, YEAH, YOU HAVE A STRONG ARGUMENT. I MEAN, TAKE CARE OF YOUR FAMILY, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEST FOR YOUR GRANDKID AND GET RID OF THOSE SCRATCHY LEAVES. I, I EMPATHIZE WITH YOU, YOU, A CALIFORNIA NATIVE TREE PLUS A NICE LAWN WOULD ACTUALLY BE REALLY NICE. YEAH. YEAH. YOU KNOW, AND THE, THE GOAL OF, OF THE COMMITTEE TOO, YOU KNOW, WE WANT A RESOLUTION THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY. UM, SO I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT PROPOSITION I PUT FORWARD, EVERYONE KIND OF COMES OUT, UH, YOU KNOW, IN A POSITIVE. YEAH. AND IN TERMS OF THE, YOUR CHOICE OF TREE, THERE ARE SOME NATIVES, UM, THAT MAY NOT BE ON THE STREET TREE LIST. UM, THEY, UH, SMALLER NATIVE TREES MIGHT BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR YOU. 'CAUSE WITH THE STREET TREE LIST, WE NEED A TREE THAT BRANCHES HIGH ENOUGH THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CARS AND THE TRUCKS GOING BY AREN'T GONNA, SO YOU CAN PICK SOMETHING LIKE A WESTERN RED BUD, WHICH IS A SMALL TREE, UM, MULTI BRANCHING, REALLY AWESOME. NEVER GONNA GET VERY BIG AND JUST JUICY LEAVES THAT AREN'T GONNA HURT ANYBODY. IF, IF WE COULD GET A, A, A LIST OR PHOTOS OF WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE. WE CAN, UH, UH, WE, MARISSA, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE CAN PROVIDE THE, THE CITY APPROVED LIST. UM, AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT ON THAT LIST, UH, WE, WE CAN PUT A STIPULATION IN THERE THAT WHATEVER IS REPLANTED HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE CITY PUBLIC WORKS. DOES THAT WORK? I'LL BE FOLLOWING UP IN WRITING WITH THE FINDINGS FROM THE COMMITTEE. AND WHEN I SEND THAT TO YOU, I WILL ALSO INCLUDE THE TREE LIST. OH, MM-HMM . PERFECT. BUT MY OTHER RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, UM, TAKE THE DOCUMENTATION FROM THE DOCTOR AND, AND WHAT WE'VE SAID TODAY TO YOUR NEIGHBOR, BECAUSE THE MINUTE THAT TREE GETS SOME SUN, 'CAUSE IT'S BEEN BLOCKED BY YOUR TREE, IT'S GONNA BE JUST AS BIG OF A PROBLEM AS YOU'RE DEALING WITH. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THEY PLANTED, IT LOOKS LIKE MAYBE IT WAS AN ACORN THAT GREW ON THAT WEIRD TRIANGLE POP, YOU KNOW, PIECE RIGHT THERE. SO, NOT THAT THEY'D HAVE AN OPINION, BUT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT. GREAT. UH, ANY OTHER INPUT ON, UH, ON THIS PROCESS? OR WERE WE READY TO TAKE A VOTE? OKAY. UM, SO I'LL, I'LL MOTION THE VOTE. UM, SO FOR, TO PERMIT THE REMOVAL OF THE TREE, WHICH IS LOCATED AT, UM, FIND THE ADDRESS. OKAY. 10 40. YEAH. SO LIKE TAX, IT'S ON LAGUNA. WHAT WAS THE NUMBER? 10 48. 1 0 4 0 LAGUNA STREET. 1 0 1 0 4 0 LAGUNA STREET. UM, IN REGARDS TO THE PERMIT, WE'RE DISCUSSING NOW, UH, 1 9 7 6 8 WITH A STIPULATION THAT, UH, HOMEOWNER WILL DONATE, UH, A 15 GALLON NATIVE TREE TO THE URBAN FORESTRY FUND. DO YOU WANT A SPECIFIC COAST LIVE OAK? YEAH. YEAH. I THINK WE SHOULD DO ANOTHER COAST LIVE OAK. UM, SO, BUT THE DONATION, I BELIEVE DOES NOT COVER A PACIFIC TREE. IT'S JUST A COST. IS THAT RIGHT, TIM? YEAH. UM, AND THEN THE HOMEOWNER WILL ALSO PLANT A REPLACEMENT TREE ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS A CALIFORNIA NATIVE FROM THE, UH, APPROVED TREE LIST THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS COMPILED OR SOMETHING DIFFERENT, WHICH IS APPROVED BY, UH, PUBLIC WORKS BEFORE PLANTING. OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND. HELLO? WE CAN HEAR YOU. OKAY. SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE A, TAKE A VOTE. AND EXCUSE ME. CHAIR BRADLEY. AYE. VICE CHAIR CRAFT. [00:05:01] AYE. COMMITTEE MEMBER BROWN. AYE. COMMITTEE MEMBER JEFFERSON AYE. COMMITTEE MEMBER WONG. C I'LL SAY, AYE. COMMITTEE MEMBER WEISS. AYE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU LOPEZ FAMILY FOR, UH, COMING AND TALKING TO US. THANK YOU COMMITTEE. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, TIM. APPRECI YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, TIM, FOR YOUR, UH, YOUR INFORMATION TOO. THANK YOU, TIM. OKAY, WE'RE NOW MOVING ON TO, UH, 4.3, UM, WHICH IS, THANKS GUYS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO MOVING ON TO 0.4, 0.3, WHICH IS DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION REGARDING THE FINAL PROPOSAL ON SIGNAGE TO PREVENT ILLEGAL DUMPING IN LIVERMORE, WHICH IS GONNA BE PRESENTED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER WONG. SO, OVER TO YOU, ANDY. ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S ALL GO TO PAGE 18. OH, I'M SORRY. I THINK YOU HAVE TO TURN IN OFF. IT SHOULD BE ON TEST, TEST, TEST, TEST. NO, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT. THAT'S NOT, HOW THE HELL DO I USE THIS? OH, THERE WE GO. THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT. HELLO. IT'S ON. YEAH, GO AHEAD, ANNIE. BATTERY. IT'S JUST NOT VERY LOUD TOO. TEST. YEAH, TEST. THAT'S GOOD. OKAY. THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S ALL GO TO PAGE 18. AND SO I'M JUST GONNA GIVE A PRESENTATION JUST FINALIZING THE SIGN DESIGN AND ALSO THE LOGISTICS, JUST SO THAT WE CAN MOVE ALONG AND HOPEFULLY GET THIS ROLLING VERY SOON. ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S MOVE ON TO SLIDE 19. UP PAGE 19. I'M SORRY, , WHICH IS SLIDE TWO. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO I GUESS I AM IN A SLIGHTLY BETTER MOOD. SO I . UM, SO I'M IN A SLIGHTLY BETTER MOOD. NO, BETTER BUT SLIGHTLY BETTER. UM, SO I DECIDED, I DO AGREE. LET'S PUT A MORE POSITIVE SPIN ON THE SIGN RATHER THAN SOMETHING PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE, WHICH MIGHT BACKFIRE. SO I DO THINK THE SLOGAN BE A HERO, NOT A DUMPER. HELP KEEP LIVERMORE CLEAN. IT'S GONNA RESONATE AT LEAST FOR ME BECAUSE IT MAKES ME FEEL GOOD TO KNOW I'M NOT DUMPING. UM, WE'RE GONNA KEEP THAT, UH, LITTLE, UM, WHAT YOU CALL IT, LIKE THE, THE SYMBOL NEXT TO IT WITH THE GUY, YOU KNOW, DON'T DUMP. AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA KEEP THE QR DIMENSION EIGHT INCHES BY EIGHT INCHES. THAT'S PRETTY BIG ACCORDING TO MY RULER. AND YOU MAY ALSO NOTICE THAT I KIND OF PUT A RED LINE THROUGH SOME OF THE STUFF BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SCAN, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO SAY SCAN QR, WE CAN JUST SAY SCAN, BECAUSE I MEAN, IT'S ALREADY IMPLIED, YOU KNOW? SO SCAN FOR, AND THEN I ALSO GOT RID OF THE FREE, AND HERE'S MY JUSTIFICATION FOR GETTING RID OF THE FREE, BECAUSE THE RESOURCES I FOUND ARE A COMBINATION OF FREE AND PAID WAYS TO GET RID OF TRASH. AND I WANT TO BASICALLY PROVIDE AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE. SO THAT INCLUDES, UM, YOU KNOW, WAYS OF DISPOSING THAT, BUT YOU HAVE TO PAY A LITTLE BIT. SO I JUST THINK LIKE, YOU KNOW, I, IF WE WANNA GIVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO PEOPLE, THEN WE SHOULDN'T RESTRICT IT TO JUST FREE. WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, GIVE EVERYTHING. BUT I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO ALSO MAKE IT CLEAR, LIKE WHAT IS FREE AND WHAT'S NOT FREE. AND THEN, UM, UH, I, I DECIDED LIKE, WHAT'S THE POINT OF HAVING A WEBSITE? IF THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO SCAN A QR CODE, THEN IT'S JUST MEANINGLESS TO ME, RIGHT? LIKE IF YOU, IF YOU CAN'T SCAN A QR CODE, THEN HOW, HOW CAN I EXPECT YOU TO EVEN GET ONTO A WEBSITE FROM YOUR PHONE? PROBABLY HAVE A NOIA FOR ALL I CARE ABOUT. SO, UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S BASICALLY MY, UH, SUGGESTION FOR THE SIGN. WE HAVE A LITTLE POSITIVE SPIN TO THE SI TO THE SLOGAN AND PUT A BIG QR CODE, BIG BEAUTIFUL Q QR CODE ON IT. SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY SUGGESTION. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD, ANDY. YEAH. CONGRATULATIONS. YEAH, I THINK I, I ESPECIALLY, IT'S ALMOST USELESS TO PUT THE WEBSITE. NOBODY'S GOING TO SIT THERE AND TYPE THE WEBSITE IN THERE. YEAH, I MEAN, LIKE, IT'S [00:10:01] JUST, IF THEY CAN'T EVEN SCAN A QR CODE, I ASSUME THEIR PHONE IS OWED. SO HOW CAN THEY EVEN ACCESS THE WEB ? SO, ALL RIGHT. SO, UH, LET'S MOVE ON TO SLIDE THREE, WHICH IS PAGE 20. SO THESE THREE LOCATIONS, UH, THAT I HAVE SHOWN ON THE SLIDE, THEY ALL FALL WITHIN THE BROWN, MEANING THEY ARE WITHIN LIVERMORE. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, SO, UM, BASICALLY WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY HERE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WITHIN CITY LIMITS AND UM, PUBLIC RIGHT AWAY. SO THE THREE OPTIONS HERE ARE NORTH FRONT ROAD, NEAR FIVE 80 SOUTH FRONT ROAD SLASH VASCO AND LOUGHLIN ROAD. THESE PLACES HAVE A LOT OF TRASH AND I THINK KAREN CAN ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT SOUTH FRONT ROAD WAS DISGUSTING, . 'CAUSE SHE WAS AT MY CLEANUP , AND WE GOT 20 BAGS OF TRASH, SO, WOW. YIKES. YEAH, SO IT WAS DISGUSTING. SO, AND WE EVEN FOUND A MATTRESS TOO. SO, UM, SO THOSE ARE THE THREE LOCATIONS. UM, THE REASON I'M HOLDING OFF ON MAKING A FINAL DECISION ON LOCATION IS BECAUSE, UM, I JUST THINK LIKE I KIND OF NEED TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE BUDGET. LIKE, DO WE HAVE A, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR JUST ONE OR TWO OR THREE SIGNS? YOU KNOW, I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE THE SIGNS FIRST BEFORE WE DECIDE ON A LOCATION. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. YOU KNOW, I WANT TO GET THE SCIENCE MADE FIRST AND THEN WE, HAVE YOU BEEN TOLD HOW THEY WILL BE MOUNTED? WENDY? UH, I HAVE NOT BEEN EXPLICITLY TOLD ABOUT THAT. IT MIGHT BE A CONVERSATION WE HAVE TO HAVE WITH JOE. IS THERE EXISTING? UH, SO I, I GUESS IF THERE'S EXISTING SIGNAGE, THEY CAN GO ON AN EXISTING POST, MAYBE MM-HMM . YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ORDINANCE ABOUT THAT THOUGH. THERE MIGHT HAVE TO BE A NEW POST, WHICH IS ANOTHER TURTLE TAKES YEARS , BUT YEAH. YEAH. THE POST IS, WELL, AND I KNOW THEY GOTTA BE A SPECIAL POST TOO, I THINK, WHERE IF SOMEONE HITS 'EM, THEY KINDA GIVE WAY. YEAH. YOU HIT 'EM IN YOUR CAR. IT CAN'T JUST BE A STEEL POST. IT'S A SPECIAL KIND OF POST, HEY, MAYBE A NATIVE TREE. , WE'RE TRYING TO GET MORE TREES, NOT GONNA RIP A SPECIAL MAIL. YES. THERE YOU GO. SORRY. AND THE FOUNDATION FOR IT IN THE GROUND IS THAT THE CITY WAS GONNA HANDLE THAT? YEAH. UH, IT'LL PROBABLY BE, I THINK THEY CALL IT A BREAKAWAY POST. UM, ANDY GOT TO TAKE A TOUR OF THE SIGN SHOP. YES. UM, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO. AND, UH, WE TALKED WITH THE SUPERVISOR ABOUT, UH, DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND, UH, WE HAVE THINGS THAT ARE IN STOCK THAT WE CAN, UH, USE. OKAY. UM, JUST TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. YEAH. WELL, I, I'M CURIOUS, ARE THERE ALREADY EXISTING POSTS THAT YOU COULD PUT THE SIGN ON ALREADY? THAT WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE, UH, REGULATIONS AND OKAY. IT'D JUST BE A NEW POST. YEAH. YEAH. BUT YEAH. SO THESE LOCATIONS PROBABLY, YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. RIGHT. AND IT DEPENDS ON LOCATION TOO, I GUESS THERE'S, I THINK I'M GONNA HOLD OFF ON THAT FOR A LITTLE BIT. OKAY. UM, OKAY. WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS. SO WE HAVE SIGNS AND WE HAVE POSTS. YEP. ALRIGHT, UH, LET'S MOVE ON TO, OH, SORRY, SLIDE THREE. ALL RIGHT, SO HERE'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, BLAH, I'M SORRY. SO HERE'S THE THING ABOUT THE QR CODES. THE Q CODES ARE ALSO GOING TO SERVE AS A VERY IMPORTANT TOOLS TO, FOR US TO KNOW, ARE THEY EFFECTIVE, ARE THE SCIENCE EFFECTIVE OR NOT? BECAUSE ONCE WE PUT UP THESE SIGNS, WE GOTTA KNOW, IS IT WORTH IT OR WAS IT A WASTE? SO IT'S GOOD THAT WE HAVE SOME WAY TO QUANTI QUANTIFY THAT BECAUSE SCIENCE IS IMPORTANT. UM, SO THAT'S WHY I BELIEVE THAT THESE QR CODES NEED TO BE SMART. AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR A QR CODE TO BE SMART? MEANING THAT THEY ARE LINKED TO SOME DATABASE WHERE IT KIND OF KEEPS TRACK OF HOW MANY PEOPLE SCANNED IT AND, YOU KNOW, GIVES US INFORMATION. LIKE THIS NUMBER OF PEOPLE SCANNED IT ON TUESDAY, THIS MANY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, SCANNED IT ON WHATEVER DAY. I THINK THAT'S JUST IMPORTANT. I THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE A WAY TO QUANTIFY THE SUCCESS AND EFFECTIVENESS OF THE SIGN. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION, BECAUSE IF IT'S PROMISING AND IT DOES GET SCANNED QUITE A BIT, AND WE DO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF A REDUCTION IN ILLEGAL DUMPING IN THOSE AREAS, I THINK THAT'S CAN BE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN LIKE, YOU KNOW, UH, IT'LL, IT'LL SERVE AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, FOR OTHER PLACES AS WELL. AND IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN SHOW OFF. YEAH. WHAT'S UP? DOES THE CITY WANT US COLLECTING THAT KIND OF DATA FROM PEOPLE? WE'D HAVE TO COLLECT UNIQUE USER DATA FROM PEOPLE SCANNING IT? IT MIGHT JUST BE A NUMERICAL COUNT. YEAH, IT'S JUST A NUMERICAL COUNT. LIKE GOOGLE ANALYTICS, UM, IT'S JUST A NUMERICAL COUNT. IT DOESN'T SAY A NUMBER. IT DOESN'T SAY LIKE, OH, THIS PERSON WITH THIS PHONE NUMBER . RIGHT. YOU KNOW, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE. THE GOLDEN QUESTION, HOW MUCH IS THAT? DOES [00:15:01] IT, IS IT FREE? SO IT IS NOT FREE. MM-HMM . SO, SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING WE GOTTA . SO THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER DISCUSSION WITH, IS IT, IS IT PAY PAID ANNUALLY? IS IT MONTHLY? IT'S PAID EITHER MONTHLY OR ANNUALLY. SO I NEED TO GET SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE ANNUAL. SO WHAT, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE, THE COSTS ARE? SO, SO IT'S LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE HOW MUCH YOU GUYS KNOW ABOUT THIS? IT'S AN API, SO IT, SO IT'S PAID BY LIKE HOW MANY, LIKE, UM, HOW DO I DESCRIBE IT? LIKE HOW OFTEN IT'S USED. SO IF IT'S USED MORE, WE'RE GONNA PAY A LITTLE MORE, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE. IT'S CLICK METRICS. YES, EXACTLY. SO THAT'S, SO DOES THE CITY ALREADY TRACK ON THEIR OWN QR CODES? DO YOU GUYS TRACK ANY? YEAH, YEAH. . IS THERE A, A LITTLE CLUNKY, YEAH. UM, OUR COMMUNICATION SPECIALIST, KELLY, SHE PUT OUT A SPECIAL QR CODE FOR THE, UH, BEAUTIFICATION AWARD APPLICATION AND UH, SHE SHOULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION. UH, BUT SHE WAS ON VACATION, SO I WASN'T ABLE TO LAST WEEK. SO C'S ALREADY DOING THAT KIND, RIGHT? WE MIGHT JUST BE ABLE TO INTEGRATE IT INDEPENDENT OF THAT. YEAH. OH, I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE USING IT TRACK. WE COULD HAVE KELLY. YEAH, MAYBE WE COULD SET UP SOMETHING BETWEEN ANDY AND UH, KELLY. YEAH, THAT'LL BE, TALK ABOUT THAT. THAT'LL BE EXCELLENT. SO THAT WE CAN GET QR CODE BEFORE WE MAKE THE SIGNS. YEAH. OKAY. ALRIGHT. YEAH, IF I COULD GET THAT NAME AFTERWARDS, THAT WOULD BE SWEET. ALRIGHT. BOOM. ALL RIGHT. SO, SORRY, I'VE BEEN BORING YOU GUYS. LAST SLIDE. BORING. NO, WE'RE MAKING A LOT OF PROGRESS. YES. AND I'M TRYING TO PUT A LITTLE, UH, HUMOR INTO THIS . UM, SO, SO HERE'S THE THING ABOUT QR CODE. YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY DO WE WANT IT TO, YOU KNOW, GIVE US SOME VITAL STATISTICS, BUT WE ALSO WANT IT TO BE U USEFUL TO THE END USER. SO I, IDEALLY IT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, THE QR CODE COULD LINK TO A WEBSITE THAT'S ALREADY AVAILABLE BY THE CITY. SO IN THIS CASE HERE, THERE IS A PAGE ON ILLEGAL DUMPING FROM LIVERMORE'S WEBSITE. BUT YOU CAN SEE LIKE, IT'S KIND OF, IN MY OPINION, IT'S KIND OF DEVOID OF THE INFORMATION. IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, OKAY, I GET IT TO REPORT AN ILLEGAL DUMPING, YADA YADA YADA CURBSIDE COLLECTION. LIKE THAT'S ALL GOOD, BUT THERE'S ADDITIONAL THINGS WE WANNA ADD TO THAT. FOR INSTANCE, LIKE THERE ARE FREE WAYS TO DISPOSE OF MEDICAL WASTE AT CVS AND HOSPITALS, AND YOU'D BE SURPRISED, A LOT OF PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW THAT . AND I DO FIND A LOT OF SYRINGES AS WELL IN LIVERMORE, LIKE ALONG FTOS, I'VE EVEN FOUND SOME ALONG PATTERSON PASSWORD. I MEAN, WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA GET THE PEOPLE TO KNOW, LIKE YOU CAN DISPOSE OF THOSE FOR FREE. I DON'T WANT PEOPLE THROWING THOSE JUST IN BAGS, YOU KNOW. SO SOME INFORMATION ABOUT LIKE WHERE WITHIN LIVERMORE YOU CAN GET THE MEDICAL WASTE DISPOSED. IT ALSO INCLUDES MEDICINE AS WELL. UM, THERE'S ALSO FREE HAZARDOUS WASTE DISPOSAL BECAUSE LIVERMORE HAS ONE. THOSE ALAMEDA COUNTY HAS HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE FACILITIES WHERE YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, GIVE THEM YOUR ENGINE OIL, COOLANT, WHATEVER. AND A LOT, THERE'S A GOOD AMOUNT OF LEGAL DUMPING THAT INVOLVES THOSE KINDS OF MATERIALS. SO LETTING PEOPLE KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO DUMP IT MEANS THEY ALREADY HAVE A TRUCK OR VEHICLE, SO THEY SHOULD JUST DRIVE TO THOSE FACILITIES AND HAVE IT, YOU KNOW, HAVE HAVE THEM TAKE IT. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK HOPEFULLY IT TELLS, HOPEFULLY INSPIRES PEOPLE TO NOT BE LAZY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I, I, I'VE KIND OF GIVEN UP ON THAT HOPE SO. UM, ANYWAYS, ALL RIGHT, SO THIRD THING IS PLACES THAT ACCEPTS, UH, USED HOUSEHOLD ITEMS. SO THERE'S PLENTY OF PLACES THAT TAKE CLOTHING. YOU KNOW, I, IT'S ALWAYS SAD TO ME WHEN I FIND CLOTHING JUST THROWN OUT INTO THE WILD, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD HAVE GONE TO SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE IT WOULD BE VALUED. YOU KNOW, LIKE TOYS AS WELL, THAT SORT OF THING. YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS ONCE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE USED NO LONGER CAN BE USED BECAUSE IT'S COVERED DIRT AND IT'S RIPPED UP. SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, TRY TO REDUCE LIKE, UM, CONSUMPTION AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, PRODUCTION OF MATERIALS, YOU KNOW, UM, IT'S GOOD THAT WE CAN TELL PEOPLE LIKE THOSE GOODS, YOU CAN DONATE THEM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE FACT THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO DRIVE AND DUMP THE ITEMS, LIKE WHY DON'T YOU JUST DRIVE TO A PLACE WHERE IT ACCEPTS THOSE MATERIALS ? SO, YOU KNOW, SO LIKE CLOTHING EVEN I, I EVEN SAW LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SOME FURNITURE AS WELL, YOU KNOW, UM, TVS. SO THOSE ARE ALL LIKE, GOOD THINGS THAT CAN BE DONATED AWAY. AND SO YOU REACHED OUT TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE. [00:20:01] UH, SO I, SO TO ADD THOSE, LONG STORY SHORT, I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH MARISSA THROUGH EMAIL WHERE I GAVE HER LIKE A TWO PAGE DOCUMENT, BASICALLY WITH SUGGESTIONS, , IS THAT ONLY TWO PAGES? IS THAT ON THE TABLE? OR IS IT, ARE WE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT? UH, COULD WE UPDATE THE, THE CITY ILLEGAL DUMPING PAGE WITH SOME MORE RESOURCES FOR THE COMMUNITY? UM, WE CAN, UM, AND I, I DON'T WANNA INTERRUPT ANDY, BUT I, I HAVE SOME, SOME MORE THINGS TO SHARE ONCE HE'S DONE WITH HIS PRESENTATION. YES. SORRY. UM, SO, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, HOUSEHOLD ITEMS DONATE THOSE AWAY. UH, ALSO, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PLACES THAT ACCEPT BULKY ITEMS. AND WHAT, WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS KNOW ABOUT THIS WEBSITE, IT'S CALLED LIKE REUSED RECYCLE. AND BASICALLY YOU PUT IN LIKE, YOU BASICALLY SELECT FROM A LIST, LIKE WHAT DO YOU WANT TO, YOU KNOW, GET RID OF? IS IT MATTRESS? IS IT LIKE SOME CABINET, WHATEVER? IT'S A PRETTY DETAILED LIST. AND THEN YOU PUT IN YOUR ZIP CODE AND THEN IT GIVES YOU A LIST OF PLACES BOTH FREEWAYS AT DISPOSING IT AND WAYS AND IF YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. SO, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS UNTIL I DID UNTIL I ASKED CHAT. GPT, SO , UM, THAT JUST GOES TO SHOW LIKE SOMETHING WENT ASTRAY . SO, SO I, I, I FOUND IT CREDIBLY USEFUL, YOU KNOW, JUST HAVING LIKE A QUICK WAY TO, YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT WHERE CAN I DISPOSE OF SOME OF THIS STUFF. YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY HAVE, THERE'S ALREADY A WEBSITE FOR IT, SO I WANT PEOPLE TO USE IT. AND IT'S PRETTY TRANSPARENT IN THAT IT LITERALLY TELLS YOU IF IT'S FREE OR DO YOU HAVE TO PAY. AND IF YOU HAVE TO PAY, THEN IT'LL LIKE EITHER TELL YOU LIKE YOU NEED TO ASK THEM OR THEY'LL TELL YOU A PRICE. SO ONE OF THOSE, AND CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? YEAH. ARE, ARE YOU THINKING BY USING THE ILLEGAL DUMPING WEBSITE, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW BENEFICIAL IT WOULD BE TO COME TO THIS WEBSITE, SCAN IT FOR IDEAS, AND THEN TO SEE ILLEGAL DUMPING ON IT? OH YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S TRUE. , I DON'T KNOW HOW, WHETHER SOMEBODY WOULD CONTINUE READING ON YEAH. AS OPPOSED TO JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S KINDA LIKE A, HERE'S HOW TO HANDLE YOUR TRASH. IT'S KINDA LIKE A BOOK, RIGHT? YOU LOOK AT THE COVER, RIGHT? AND THE TITLE IS VAGUE. THEN HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE LIVERMORE SANITATION SITE? COULD THAT BE A PLACE TO SEND PEOPLE, UH, FOR THE BULKY ITEMS? SURE. BUT FOR THE OTHER STUFF THEY DON'T REALLY TALK ABOUT LIKE FREE MEDICAL WASTE DISPOSAL, I WANT THAT INFORMATION. YEAH. YOU KNOW? OKAY. BUT THEIR WEBSITE DOESN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT THAT. I, I, I, I WOULD TRY TO THINK MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE OPEN AND NOT GO TO THIS RIGHT AWAY. I DON'T KNOW, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THIS WOULD BE A DEBBIE DOWNER. I'LL, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE IT'S LIKE ALREADY A WEBSITE, YOU KNOW, , I GOT IT. JUST SAVE SOME TIME. THAT WAS MY INITIAL REASONING. BUT NOW THAT I'VE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF HEARD THAT, I'M LIKE, YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. DOES THE CITY'S RECYCLING PAGE HAVE ANYTHING THAT COULD BE USEFUL? IT DOES. YEAH. YEAH. SO THERE COULD BE A BETTER, UH, SO YEAH. STARTING POINT. YEAH. YEAH. A MORE POSITIVE STARTING POINT. MM-HMM . CAN WE COMMISSION A VIDEO WITH BENNY WHERE HE IS EXPLAINING, GET VINNY ON NOW WITH SYRINGES OR ANYTHING ICKY. I MEAN, I, I, I'LL BE OKAY WITH RIDICULING MYSELF JUST TO GET SOME HITS. SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S, THAT'S JUST KIND OF MY, THE STATUS. SO WE GOT FINE SIGNED DESIGN, AND THEN I THINK YOU MADE A LOT, NOW THE LOGISTICS, YOU THINK YOU MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS? YEAH, I MEAN, I, I, I REALLY DID TRY TO LIKE DELVE MORE INTO THE PSYCHOLOGY AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, RESEARCH HAS SHOWN LIKE MORE POSITIVE MESSAGING IS MORE EFFECTIVE. BUT IF YOU'RE IN A BAD MOOD, THEN YOU KNOW, YOU DEFINITELY WANT, I'M ASHAMED THOUGH, , SO, BUT I'M, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE WAY TO GO, YOU KNOW? SO WE GOT THE SLOGAN, EVERYTHING NAILED DOWN. UM, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF NOW LOGISTICS. SO, SO IT'S JUST SO, RIGHT. SO NOW WE'RE JUST KINDA, IT'S LIKE THE QR CODE. QR CODE AND THEN WHERE WE'RE GONNA LINK IT TO AND THEN WE'RE GOOD TO GO. YOU READ MY MIND, , CAN THERE BE A NEW PAGE CREATED? UH, WE HAVE EXISTING PAGES, UM, THAT WE COULD MAKE IT WORK. UM, SO ANDY HAS COME TO YOU GUYS, UH, AND THIS IS UP FOR DISCUSSION, UH, AMONGST YOURSELVES. AND THEN ONCE YOU GUYS, UH, AGREE TO THE DESIGN, UH, IT'S GOING TO COME TO JOE AND I AND THE STREET SUPERVISOR TO MAKE SURE IT WORKS FOR US. UH, WE [00:25:01] DO HAVE A, UM, SECTION IN THE MUNI CODE ON SIGNS. YES. AND WE'LL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK WITH ENGINEERING 'CAUSE THEY HAVE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS FOR WHERE WE CAN, UM, PUT NEW SIGNS. SO WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT IT WORKS FOR CITY AND COMPLIANCE. UH, WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BUDGET, UH, FOR BEAUTIFICATION ITEMS. AND SO, UM, THAT'S THE, THE SIGNAGE AND THE POSTS WILL BE COVERED UNDER THAT. UH, AS FAR AS THE WEBSITE, SO WE HAVE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTAL WEBSITES, AND THE ILLEGAL DUMPING ONE FALLS UNDER COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. AND, UH, WE DON'T WANT TO, UH, INFRINGE ON THEIR OPERATIONS OR MAKE CHANGE. OH, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO MAKE CHANGES TO THEIR PAGES WITHOUT, I, I HONESTLY DIDN'T KNOW WITHOUT INFORMATION. NO, NO, THAT'S OKAY. UM, AND WE DO, UM, SO ANDY DID PROVIDE ME WITH SOME, UH, FEEDBACK ON THE WEBSITE AND I GOT BACK TO HIM AND I SAID, WELL, THERE ARE REASONS THAT WE DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE BECAUSE IT GETS UPDATED ALL THE TIME. AND SO WE WOULD RATHER REFER TO THE OUTSIDE WEBSITES WHERE THEY ARE UPDATED MORE FREQUENTLY. AND THE ONE ANDY'S REFERRING TO, UH, FOR THE HARD TO RECYCLE ITEMS IS RESOURCE DO STOP WASTE.ORG. OH, YEAH. AND SO, UM, YOU CAN GO THERE AND FIND OUT, UH, HOW TO GET RID OF ALL KINDS OF STUFF AND IF IT'S FREE OR, OR NOT. UM, SO IT'S KIND OF A ONE-STOP SHOP WEBSITE THAT'S UPDATED. YES. YEAH. AND IT'S BAY AREA WIDE, NOT JUST ALAMEDA COUNTY. YEAH. UM, WE WOULDN'T WANNA LINK TO THAT BECAUSE THEN WE DON'T GET QR CODE INFORMATION. UM, SO I'M GONNA BE TALKING WITH KELLY ABOUT POSSIBLY, UH, HOW TO MAKE THIS WORK, UM, WHILE IT FITS INTO OUR, OUR PROCESSES, UH, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, WE DON'T WANNA KEEP UPDATING OUR WEBSITE WHEN THERE'S ANOTHER WEBSITE THAT HAS THAT INFORMATION ON IT ALREADY. UM, SOME OF THIS WOULD BE BETTER SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS. UM, AND THERE WAS JUST ONE ON BULKY PICKUPS. THERE WAS JUST ONE ON HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE. UM, AND THAT KEEPS THINGS MORE FRESH, UM, UH, FOR RESIDENTS AND DIRECT TO THEM, RATHER THAN ON THE WEBSITE. SO WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE SOME INTERNAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW THAT LOOKS, AND THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THOSE ANALYTICS, UH, MAYBE ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, UM, MAYBE VIA EMAIL TO YOU GUYS. YEAH. UM, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE YOUR SUGGESTIONS AND, AND, UH, WE WILL REPORT BACK. YEAH. SOUNDS GOOD. SO, SO ACTION OF THE COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW IS TO TAKE A VOTE ON IF WE APPROVE ANDY'S SIGN. YEAH. OKAY. AND THE LOCATIONS. AND THE LOCATIONS, YEAH. OKAY. I, I MOTION TO, UH, TO HAVE A VOTE THAT WE APPROVE ANDY'S, UH, SIGN DESIGN AND THE LOCATIONS HE SUGGESTED FOR PLACES. I SECOND THE MOTION. DO YOU WANNA TAKE A VOTE? OKAY. NOW WE'RE GONNA TAKE A VOTE. CHAIR BRADLEY. AYE. VICE CHAIR CRAFT. AYE. COMMITTEE MEMBER BROWN. AYE. COMMITTEE MEMBER JEFFERSON AYE. COMMITTEE MEMBER WONG. UH, DO I ABSTAIN FROM THE SWORN? NO, NO, YOU CAN VOTE. OKAY. AYE. I THOUGHT HE WAS GONNA SAY COMMITTEE MEMBER WEISS. AYE. THANK YOU. OH, SORRY, . THAT'S ALL RIGHT. HOPEFULLY I'M LOUD ENOUGH. YES. SAID NO TO YOUR OWN , SO THANK YOU ANDY FOR THAT. THANK YOU. UM, YOU PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO IT. YEAH. IT'S EVIDENT AND IT'S MAKING THAT ICON WAS A PAIN AND VERY GOOD ANYWAYS. YEAH, NO, YOU PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO IT AND YOU COULD TELL YOU'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT IT. OH, WE'RE GETTING CLOSE. WE'RE VERY CLOSE NOW TO SEEING NEW SIGNS. YES, I CAN FEEL IT. YES. DID EVERYONE SEE, UH, ANDY THE ARTICLE IN THE SAN FRANCISCO CRON? UH, NO. MARISSA, ANDY TOLD US ABOUT IT. ABOUT ANDY. ANDY, YEAH. YEAH. LET'S WAIT TILL AFTER THE MEETING. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. WE'RE BEING RECORDED. . OKAY. SO THANK YOU ANDY. YES. SO I GOTTA GO BACK NOW. OKAY. PRE PROGRESSING THROUGH, UH, TO 0.4 0.4, UH, TO THE BEAUTIFICATION AWARDS, AD HOC COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WINNERS OF THE 2025 BEAUTIFICATION AWARDS. SO I WILL PASS OVER TO THE BEAUTIFICATION AWARDS AD HOC COMMITTEE. WELL, THE AD HOC COMMITTEE CONSISTS OF ANDY, UH, KAT AND MYSELF. AND, [00:30:01] UH, WE HAVE NINE ENTRIES. ONE ENTRY WAS, UH, SUBMITTED AT THE, THE VERY END. UM, AND I THINK WHEN, AT LEAST WHEN I LOOKED AT THESE ENTRIES, I THOUGHT JOHN'S COMMENTS FROM LAST MEETING WAS, WAS KIND OF PERTINENT TO ME BECAUSE HE MENTIONED THAT YOU COULD, I WAS FOCUSED ON LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS AND CERTAINLY THAT'S WHERE I AM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MY FOCUS AND MY LOVE. BUT JOHN POINTED OUT THAT THERE COULD BE ARCHITECTURAL IMPROVEMENTS MADE TO THE HOUSE, ET CETERA. SO WHEN SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY THAT THE LANDSCAPING WAS NOT, UM, TOTALLY GREAT, BUT THE ENHANCEMENTS THAT THEY MADE TO CERTAINLY THEIR HOUSE MM-HMM . UH, WAS, UH, UH, IMPRESSIVE. SO ANYWAY, SO HOW WOULD, HOW WOULD THE COMMITTEE LIKE TO PROCEED? JUST TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE AND MAKE COMMENT? WE CAN EACH MAKE COMMENTS. YEAH. YEAH. SO, YEAH. AND THEN DO YOU HAVE, DOES THE AD HOC COMMITTEE HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS OF WHO THEY THINK SHOULD BE AWARDED? UH, YES. OKAY. AND, UM, YES. OKAY. YES. OKAY. AND WE CAN EACH, WE MAY NOT AGREE, BUT WE HAVE OPINIONS ON ALL OF THEM. UM, LET'S SEE. WE'LL START WITH, UH, BASED ON WHAT IS IN THE, UH, HANDOUTS? UH, 6 0 4 HAZEL STREET? NO, WAIT, I HAVE 5 3, 5 4. OH, I'M SORRY. I MISSED THAT. YEAH. SANDRA, SANDRA WAY. ARE THEY KIND OF, THEY'RE NOT FOLLOWING THE ORDER ON THE SPREADSHEET? LOOKS CORRECT. LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE REVERSED AT THIS SPREADSHEET IS ORDERED BY THE, UH, THE DATE THAT THEY CAME IN TO THE SUBMISSION. BUT, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S ONLY BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY I DID IT. BUT YOU, WE COULD DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. AND WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THESE ARE ON THE MAP, BUT WE DID. THE MAP IS REALLY JUST TO GIVE US A SENSE OF THE DISTRIBUTION OF WHERE THEY RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. AND I BELIEVE IN THE MAP THERE'S ONE MISSING BECAUSE IT CAME IN BECAUSE IT, YOU EDIT IT. OH, THANK YOU . UM, SO THERE'S NONE MISSING. OKAY. UM, AND YET AGAIN, WE DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING IN SPRINGTOWN. I TRIED. I TRIED. I TRIED, BUT, UH, I WAS NOT, WE WERE NOT SUCCESSFUL. I WILL NEXT YEAR. YOU WILL. NEXT YEAR. MM-HMM . GOOD. UM, SO LET'S START WITH, UH, 5 3 5 4 SA SONDER WAYS. AND, UM, MY COMMENTS ON THIS WAS THAT, UM, IT WAS A LUSH PLANTING OF NATIVE PLANTS AND, AND WELL MAINTAINED MM-HMM . BEAUTIFUL. YEAH, IT'S REALLY LOVELY. MM-HMM . AND IT'S CAROL'S HOUSE, SO YEAH, OF COURSE. I KNOW. NOT THAT, THAT WAS, THAT'S THE SIDE FREE THAT, THAT LOOK ALL THOSE BLOOMS, RIGHT? YEAH. DO YOU KNOW WHEN THE PICTURE WAS TAKEN? NO. MM-HMM . NO, BECAUSE THAT TREE LOOKS LIKE FALL COLOR, BUT IT'S HARD TO KNOW. BEAUTIFUL. OKAY. UH, THE NEXT ONE IS 6 0 4 HAZEL STREET. AND MY COMMENT THERE WAS, UH, MOSTLY NATIVES, UH, SOME MEDITERRANEAN PLANTS. NICELY DONE AND WELL MAINTAINED. MM-HMM . AND THIS ONE LOOKS LIKE IT'S KIND OF A NEW, LIKE THEY UPGRADED. SO I THINK, IS THIS PICTURE THE BEFORE RIGHT HERE? I GET, YES. YEAH. YEAH. I HOPE , THIS IS ISNT THE AFTER, IS IT? NO, THIS IS THE BEFORE AND THAT'S THE AFTER . UM, SO THE LARGE PICTURE SHOWS A WOODEN FENCE AND LOOKS LIKE PERHAPS PART OF THE FRONT PORCH, BUT WE DON'T SEE THAT IN THE TWO SMALLER PHOTOS. NO. SO DO YOU KNOW THIS IS STREET SIDE SOMEWHERE? YOU HAVE A GOOD EYE, ANNE? PARDON? YOU HAVE A GOOD EYE. WELL, I'M JUST VERIFYING IT'S THE SAME PROPERTY, . I BELIEVE SO. I DO NOT RECALL THAT. THAT, UH, SMALL THING, THE SMALL FENCE WHEN I LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY, BUT OH, THE FRONT ON THE SIDEWALK? YEAH. YEAH. NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ONE IN THE BACKGROUND IN THE BIG PHOTO. OH. YOU SEE THAT, YOU SEE THIS HOUSE HAS A PORCH RIGHT HERE, BUT IT'S NOT ON HERE. RIGHT. BUT IT IS THE SAME HOUSE. WE'RE WE'RE . THAT'S, THIS IS, THIS IS THE, UH, CERTAINLY THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT WAS THE, THE PICTURE THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION, THE PICTURE ON THE PICTURES ON THE LEFT, I BELIEVE THAT MARISSA HAD GOTTEN AFTER THE FACT. OH, OKAY. 'CAUSE [00:35:01] THERE WAS THIS, UH, BUGABOO WHERE ONLY ONE PICTURE WAS ALLOWED TO BE SUBMITTED. THAT'S RIGHT. REALIZE THAT. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. BUT NO, BEAUTIFUL. OKAY. THEY DID A GOOD JOB. DO THEY, DO THEY HAVE TAG NAME TAGS FOR EVERYTHING TOO, IT LOOKS LIKE ON HERE? I DO NOT KNOW. I DO. LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE. YEAH. DO YOU SEE THIS? YOU CAN ZOOM IT. OH, YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS? YOU GUYS, THE ANGLE OF THAT PHOTOGRAPH, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ALMOST REVERSED IN THE HOUSE. NEXT DOOR IS THE ONE THAT YOU ARE SEEING THAT ARCHWAY. GOT IT. UM, IT'S HER LANDSCAPE, BUT YOU CAN, YOU CAN SEE THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR. GOT IT. YEAH. OKAY. OH, GREAT LANDSCAPE. IT'S PRETTY SOFT. YOU SHOULD, YOU SHOULD BE IN THE, THE DETECTIVE VAN. YEAH. ASKING ALL THE RIGHT QUESTIONS. UM, THE NEXT HOUSE IS 24 35 PALM AVENUE. I DROVE BY THIS, UH, ON MY WAY HERE AGAIN BECAUSE I WANTED TO LOOK AT IT TO, UM, UM, DETERMINE MY, MY THOUGHTS AGAIN. AND, UM, MY COMMENTS ARE THERE, THERE'S LOTS OF PLANTS AND, UM, THERE'S LOTS OF STATUES AND THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS GOING ON. UM, IT IS NOT AS, THERE'S A LOT OF ENCROACHMENT ON THE SIDEWALK. THERE'S, THERE'S PLANTS. YOU SEE THE AWNING OR THE ARCHWAY THERE. IF YOU STEP BACK FROM THE SIDE, THAT SIDEWALK THAT YOU'RE SEEING, THERE'S ALSO PLANTS ON THAT SIDE THAT ARE COMING INTO THE SIDEWALK AS WELL AS TWO BENCHES THAT ARE THERE. SO THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON HERE, AND IT'S NOT INCREDIBLY, IN MY OPINION, AS WELL MAINTAINED AS THE REST OF THE PROPERTIES. OKAY. SO I SAID NO, BECAUSE THAT, UM, TREE BEY LOOKED OUT PLACE. HMM. NO THEME. NO REAL THEME. IT WAS IN THE LANDSCAPING. IT WAS, UM, FUSION GONE WRONG, , MR. LOTS OF THINGS GOING ON. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. OH YEAH, IT'S A TOUGH ONE. IT'S, IT'S, UM, DEFINITELY NOT MY STYLE. UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW, IT'S ALSO A LOT OF FUN. LIKE, I LOVE THAT THEY PUT THE BENCHES THERE, THAT, AND I LOVE THAT THEY TALKED ABOUT THE NEIGHBORS COMING OVER AND CHITCHATTING. AND I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE SAID FOR MAKING SOMETHING FUN ENOUGH THAT, THAT YOUR NEIGHBORS FEEL WELCOME AND, AND HAVE A LITTLE CONVERSATION AND, AND THE LITTLE CONVERSATION SET UP IN THEIR FRONT, UM, IS RARE. AND, AND I LIKE THAT. SO I THINK I JUST LIKE THEM INCORPORATING ART AND INCORPORATING JUST CUTESY THINGS. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, I'M GUESSING THEY'RE PROBABLY 82 YEARS OLD, BUT MM-HMM . OKAY. YEAH. SO I VOTED FOR IT. 'CAUSE IT MAKES ME HAPPY. OKAY. SO THE, THE WHY IS YOU A VOTE THAT IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS? MM-HMM . OKAY. YEAH. IT DOESN'T MEAN IT NEEDS TO WIN, IT'S JUST YES. HOW WE ALL VOTED. YES. OKAY. IT'S HOW YOU JUDGED ON THE CRITERIA. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ONE IS 3 0 9 NORTH LIVERMORE AVENUE. AND, UM, MY THOUGHTS IN THIS IS, THIS IS ONE OF THE HOMES THAT I THOUGHT THAT THE LANDSCAPE IS NOT REALLY WONDERFUL. THERE WAS ASTROTURF IN THE FRONT YARD, YOU CAN'T SEE IT. UH, THERE'S NOT VERY, OTHER THAN THE SUNFLOWERS, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S THAT MUCH OF, UM, PLANTINGS. HOWEVER, THEY DID DO AN AMAZING JOB OF PAINTING AND, UM, I THINK DOING SOME RESTORATIVE WORK, UM, ON THEIR, UH, ON THEIR HOUSE. IT LOOKS LIKE COLORS. IT LOOKS LIKE AN OLD HOUSE. YEAH. YES. WELL, YEAH, I THINK THERE ALL HISTORIC HOMES. IT'S A REALLY, REALLY BUSY, BUSY, BUSY, BUSY AREA ON THE CORNER ISLAND. I THINK THEY'RE ALL HISTORIC HOMES ON THAT. YEAH. THAT ROAD RIGHT THERE, A LOT OF THEM HAVE PLAQUES. YEAH. OH, THAT PAINT COLORS PURPLE. I LIKE IT. WELL, YOU GUYS LIKE IT? I THOUGHT IT LOOKED UGLY. . THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. THAT'S ALL SUBJECTIVE. YEAH. YEAH. IT WASN'T UNTIL KAREN MENTIONED THAT THE SYNTHETIC TURF THAT I, I WAS LIKE, OH. BECAUSE I MEAN, WE DO HAVE, AS ONE OF OUR CRITERIA, CRITERIA USE OF NONSYNTHETIC MATERIALS IN THE HARDSCAPE AND TURF. YEAH. I DON'T THINK THAT WE REALLY WANNA PUSH THE SYNTHETIC TURF IDEA. I, I AGREE. NO, I AGREE. I, OKAY. DEFINITELY AGREE. OKAY. YEAH. [00:40:01] I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A A IN OUR CRITERIA PER SE, BUT I THINK LANDSCAPES THAT SUPPORT MORE BIODIVERSITY AND MORE LIFE IS A BIG PLUS. SO WE'VE SEEN SOME SO FAR THAT DO THAT. AND THE SUNFLOWERS ARE GREAT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE FACTORS TO CONSIDER MM-HMM . YEP. SO, QUESTION, IF THERE, IF THIS HOUSE HAD A BEAUTIFUL NATIVE GARDEN ON ONE SIDE AND TURF ON THE OTHER, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? I THINK TURF KNOCKS IT OUTTA CONTENTION. YEAH. OKAY. WHO WANTS A BIG PIECE OF PLASTIC TO REPRESENT BEAUTY? I HAVE, I HAVE TURF . HUH? I SAID I HAVE TURF. WELL, DON'T PUT YOUR HOUSE UP FOR, FOR A WART. I WILL. . NO, I WAS JUST, I WAS JUST CURIOUS. I WAS JUST CURIOUS. I'M IN THE BACKYARD. YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, I FIND IT A USEFUL THING FOR, FOR CERTAIN FAMILIES. YEAH. UM, NO, I AGREE. I AGREE. IS A TIRE SWING IN THIS ONE, WHICH IS CUTE. THERE IS, WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE A TIRE SWING. MAYBE IT'S SCULPTURE. . I LOOK AT THE RIGHT HOUSE. THE PURPLE, THE PURPLE HOUSE 3 0 9 HOUSE HAS A TIRE SWING. YEAH. IF YOU LOOK AT THE HOUSE, IT'S OFF TO THE LEFT ON IN THE TREE. I CAN'T MAKE IT OUT, BUT NO, I CAN'T. YEAH. I LIKE IT COLOR. SAY SO KAT, I LIKE THE COLOR. THAT GUY RIGHT THERE. OH, THAT ONE. OH. WELL, IT DEPENDS WHEN THE PICTURE'S TAKEN ON GOOGLE EARTH, THE PICTURE'S TAKEN IN THE WINTER, SO YEAH. THE TREE IN FRONT OF THAT TIRE SWING IS BARE. AT ANY RATE, JUST 'CAUSE YOU GET A TIRE SWING DOESN'T NEED ANYTHING. NO. RIGHT. YEAH. I THINK THAT SYNTHETIC EARTH, KIND OF, IN MY OPINION, THE NEXT ONE IS 6 5 7 RIDGE CREST CIRCLE. UM, I THOUGHT THIS WAS NEATLY MAINTAINED, UH, IN MY OPINION, A LITTLE BORING BECAUSE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, EVERYTHING'S KIND OF MANICURED TO THE SAME PLACE. YOU KNOW, IT'S, BUT THEY DID DO A TURF REMOVAL. THERE'S THEY DID. AND WATER. I GAVE IT VOTES. YES. I MEAN, NOT EVERYBODY CAN, YOU KNOW, PUT TOGETHER. I KNOW, I KNOW, I KNOW. WHAT'S THAT? IS THAT A, IS THAT A SSIS? WHAT'S THAT PLANT RIGHT THERE? THE FRONT CAT. RAFFA. DID YOU GO SEE THIS ONE? LEFTIST THIS? DO YOU THINK THAT'S A RAFFAEL LEUS? UM, LET ME PULL IT UP ON MY LITTLE PHONE. THIS RIGHT HERE, THIS PURPLE YOU WANT BECAUSE I DIDN'T BRING MY OH, THAT ONE. I THOUGHT MAYBE IT WAS A RAEL LEFTIST. IT'S GOT A BIG LEAF. THIS ONE? YEAH, IT'S GOT A BIG YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT, BUT I DON'T KNOW. OH, WELL MAYBE IVY GROWING ON SOMETHING OR IT LOOKS LIKE A, IT'S KIND OF A SOSUS LOOKING LEAF. NOT THAT IT MATTERS. I'M JUST CURIOUS. RAFAEL, THAT IS, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING THIS ONE? THE GUY, THE, THE THE DECIDUOUS GUY. THIS ONE. THIS ONE AND THIS ONE. THESE TWO. OH, IT LOOKS GOOD. IT LOOKS LIKE THEY, THEY COULD BE SOME FUNKY PRUNE SSIS OR, UM, YEAH, IT COULD ALSO BE A BUTLIN. YEAH. OH, MAYBE FROM THE HABIT. I DON'T KNOW. I CAN'T TELL, TELL FROM THE PICTURE. OKAY. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY, THEY REMOVED THE TURF AND THEY TRIED TO CONTINUE KIND OF THE THEME THAT THEY HAD WITH THE RIGHT, RIGHT. YEAH, WITH THE ROCKS. OKAY. ANYWAY, RIDGE, WHAT'S THAT ONE? RIDGE RIDGECREST. UM, THEN THE NEXT ONE IS 7 87 SOUTH J STREET. AND IN MY OPINION, THE PICTURES DO NOT DO THIS, UH, HOUSE, THIS PROPERTY JUSTICE. UM, THEY, IT, IT, TO ME, I WOULD LOVE TO BUY THIS HOUSE , YOU KNOW, AND MOVE IN. SO THEY REALLY DID A WONDERFUL JOB BOTH ON THE HOUSE AS WELL AS, UM, ON THE LANDSCAPING AND FENCE. I THINK THEY PUT, THEY PUT THIS IN FOR THE FENCE AND I THOUGHT THE WHOLE PACKAGE IS, IS WONDERFUL. COOL. NICE. AND I SPOKE TO THE, UH, NEIGHBOR AND THEY OWNED THE HOUSE. UH, OR THE, THE OWNER, I'M SORRY. AND THEY OWNED THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR. AND WHEN THIS HOUSE CAME UP FOR SALE, THEY, THEY BOUGHT IT AND, UH, RENOVATED IT AND REDID THE, THEY LIKED IT THAT MUCH, HUH? YEAH. MM-HMM . YEAH, IT'S LOVELY. IS IT ON A CORNER? YES, IT IS. OKAY. SO WE'RE SEEING, UM, VIEWS. I'M TRYING TO DETERMINE LIKE WHAT'S CURRENT AND WHAT WAS A, IS THERE A FORMER PHOTO? LIKE THIS LITTLE ONE? I THINK THE LITTLE ONE IN THE ONE LEFT IS A FORMER YES. THIS ONE RIGHT HERE. SO IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM, UH, QUAIL. YEAH. WHATEVER. QUAIL. QUAIL GARDENS. YEAH. IS THAT WHAT IT'S CALLED? CUTE. THAT'S NICE. REALLY IS. ALRIGHT. ANDY, DO YOU HAVE ANY? AND IT'S A BIG LOT. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A BIG LOT TOO. SO THEY DID A [00:45:01] LOT OF MM-HMM . PLANTING AND STUFF ON THERE. CHECK OUT THAT GRASS. AND THEY HAVE GRAPES AROUND THE SIDE TOO. YEAH. YES, THEY DID. OH, NICE. OLIVE TREE. THE NEXT ONE IS 360 MCLEOD STREET. AND AGAIN, I WOULD SAY THAT THE PHOTOS DO NOT DO THIS JUSTICE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE. THEY HAVE A GORGEOUS GATE. IT'S, I THINK JAPANESE INSPIRED OR ORIENTAL INSPIRED AND REALLY, REALLY, REALLY NICE. AND YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE, TO ME, THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE BARE BONE OR, YOU KNOW, THE STRUCTURE OF A, A LOVELY GARDEN COMING UP. AND, UH, THAT'S, I I WAS HAPPY WITH THIS ONE. I DIDN'T VOTE BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF MY PROJECTS. OH, YOU'RE ABSTAINING, ABSTAINED FROM A, NO, THIS LOOKS REALLY GOOD. AND WELL, WHOEVER WAS THE DESIGNER DID AN EXCELLENT . NOW I MUST SAY THANKS. WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE BEFORE. AND THE GATE, THE GATE IS JUST FANTASTIC. AND I DID NOT DO THE GATE, UH, THE, THE, THE CARPENTER DID THE GATE. UM, BUT I, I DID THE OTHER THINGS AND, AND WE STAIN THE CONCRETE. UM, SHE'S REALLY INTERESTED IN MAKING IT HISTORICALLY ACCURATE. MM-HMM . WHICH IS COOL. SO SHE PAINTED IT, IF YOU'D EVER SEEN THE HOUSE, EVEN THE PICTURE ONLINE DOESN'T REALLY DO IT JUSTICE. IF YOU'D SEEN THE HOUSE BEFORE, LIKE IT HAD THIS HUGE, UH, FLAGPOLE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE AND IT HAD ASTROTURF. IT WAS OH, RIGHT. LIKE THE RIGHT HERE. YEAH. YEAH. OH YEAH. SO SHE'S, SHE'S DONE A NICE JOB OF RENOVATING THE HOUSE. OH YEAH. RIGHT. AND IF YOU EVER SEE HER OUT THERE, IT'S, SO, IT'S LITERALLY A BLOCK AWAY FROM THE BANK HEAD. MM-HMM . UM, BUT IT'S IN BETWEEN FOURTH AND THIRD. SO IT'S REALLY QUIET. NOT TO GO OFF ON A TANGENT, BUT STILL, UM, SHE'S VERY, VERY SWEET. IF YOU EVER SEE HER OUT THERE AND YOU GET A CHANCE TO KIND OF GO PEEK INSIDE. IT'S ONE OF THE ORIGINAL BUNGALOWS THAT WAS SORT OF THAT, THAT PRICE POINT OF REGULAR PEOPLE. SO IT'S GOT LIKE THE VERY CRAFTSMAN DETAIL, THE, THE, UM, WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT? THE PICTURE KIND OF RAIL OR WHATEVER. BUT IT'S PLYWOOD, SO THE INSIDE IS PLYWOOD. HMM. BUT IT'S BEAUTIFUL. OH. AND SHE'S RENOVATED ON SOME COOL STUFF, SO MAKE FRIENDS WITH HER AND GO SEE IT. YEAH, IT WAS IT. YEAH. I, I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT. OH, I LIKE IT. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA ALL GROW INTO AND IT'S GONNA BE ALL FULL AND YEAH. AND THEY PLANTED STREET TREES AND EVERY YEAH. SO WELL, YEAH. AND THE MEDIAN LOOKS WAY BETTER. MM-HMM . YEAH, IT LOOKS GREAT. UH, JUST TO GO BACK ONE, BECAUSE WHAT SOMETHING THAT KAT SAID REMINDED ME OF, UH, SOMETHING THAT THE, UH, HOMEOWNER HAD TOLD ME AT 7 87 SOUTH J STREET, I THINK THEY, THEIR NEIGHBOR THOUGHT I WAS CASING THE JOINT . SO I, I SAID, NO, I'M NOT CA DID YOU LOOK THE JOINT LOOK SUSPICIOUS? YES, I DO. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. A LITTLE OLD LADY. YEAH. WALKING AROUND . UM, AND SHE SAID THAT THEY ACTUALLY, SHE DID RESEARCH AND FOUND THAT THE STREET TREES, WHEN THE, UM, UH, PROPERTY WAS DEVELOPED THAT THEY PUT IN WERE PEPPER TREES SO THAT SHE GOT PERMISSION TO PUT IN PEPPER TREES MM-HMM . BECAUSE OF THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE. SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT THEIR HOUSES DOWNTOWN AND YEAH. I THINK THAT'S GREAT. MM-HMM . OH, THAT'S GREAT. UH, THE NEXT ONE IS 4 21 SOUTH LIVERMORE AVENUE. UM, THIS IS ON THE CORNER. YEAH, IT'S ON THE CORNER. UH, I THINK FOR, I THINK KAT SAYS IT. WELL, THE LANDSCAPING IN MY OPINION WASN'T GREAT, BUT, UM, I THINK FOR PROBLEM AREA, THEY DID A, A NICE JOB. MM-HMM . AND THEY HAD, UM, IF YOU HAD WATCHED THE, THE TRANSFORMATION, THEY'VE GOT A VERY PROMINENT PICTURE WINDOW THAT'S RIGHT. ON EAST AVENUE AND FOURTH STREET. YEAH. AND THEY CHOSE TO PUT, UM, AND OH, SOME WOOD DETAILING ON IT TO LIKE, COVER IT HALFWAY UP, SO THAT HEADLIGHTS AND MM-HMM . PEOPLE CAN'T SEE IN WHICH I WAS LIKE, IT'S REALLY CREATIVE. YEAH. 'CAUSE IT'S RIGHT IN LINE WITH THE ROAD RIGHT THERE. AND I ALWAYS THINK GOD, LIKE PEOPLE ARE GOING THROUGH THE, DOWN, DOWN KIND OF FOURTH IT'S GONNA BE, YEAH. I FEEL LIKE WITH THE FENCING AND THE ARCHITECTURAL CHANGES THAT THEY MADE, THEY DID THE BEST THAT THEY COULD ON THAT KIND OF A PROMINENT CORNER. YEAH. MM-HMM . AND DID THEY SET THE FENCE BACK A LITTLE BIT AND THEN THEY PUT THAT PLANTER IN FRONT? FRONT? THEY DID. THEY PUT SOME LITTLE SUCCULENTS AND THINGS IN FRONT. YEAH. YEAH. MM-HMM . IT LOOKS GOOD. SO I DO PASS BY THIS PLACE QUITE OFTEN. SO I DID LIKE IT, IT SAYS A QUESTION MARK, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE I GOOFED UP. OH, OKAY. THE QUESTION MARK WAS FOR SHADOW AWAY, BUT OH, GOOD. OH, YEAH. YEAH. WE, I NEED, YEAH, SO I GOT THE TWO MIXED UP, BUT YEAH, I LOVE THE FENCING. MM-HMM . OKAY. THE NEXT ONE IS 2 3 5 9 HAMPTON [00:50:01] ROAD. AND FULL DISCLOSURE, I HAVE BEEN AFTER THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY TO, UH, UM, SUBMIT, APPLY, UH, TO THE BEAUTIFICATION AWARD. I'VE GONE PAST HER PROPERTY FOR YEARS AND I'VE ALWAYS JUST BEEN AMAZED. IF YOU LOOK AT THE COLOR SELECTION OF HER, THE FRONT DOOR AND HER CHAIRS AND SOME OF THE PLANTS THAT SHE HAS IN, I MEAN, THERE'S A TIE IN OF THE RED. SHE'S DONE ALL THIS WORK HERSELF. UM, YOU KNOW, SHE'S BERMED YOU KNOW, SHE'S CREATED THE BERMS, SHE'S BROUGHT IN, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE WOOD CHIPS AND BEAUTIFUL. AND, UM, SO I, BUT FULL DISCLOSURE, LOOKS LIKE QUITE A BIG YARD TOO. IT IS, BUT IT DOES GO, DOES IT GO THE WAY, ALL THE WAY TO THESE MAPLES RIGHT HERE? ARE THOSE MAPLES RIGHT HERE? WHERE? RIGHT HERE. OH, YEAH, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PLANTS IN THERE TOO. YEAH. THEY'RE, IT'S NOT A VERY BIG YARD. SHE NO, IT'S NOT. BECAUSE IT GOES THERE, STUFFED IT IN THERE, IT GOES, IT, IT KIND OF OKAY. LOOKS LIKE IT TIES IN. YEAH. NO, I LIKE IT. IT'S MM-HMM. YEAH, HER HOUSE, I, I, I'M JUST ALWAYS REALLY IMPRESSED. SHE'S ALWAYS PUTTING, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT CAN PUT THAT CAN HAVE AN ECLECTIC LOOK OF PLANTS MM-HMM . AND STILL PULL IT TOGETHER. AND THEN THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT IT LOOKS LIKE, OH, YOU HAVE A LOT OF PLANTS AND, YOU KNOW, I, I BORDER ON PROBABLY THE LATTER. SO, UH, I'M ALWAYS IMPRESSED WITH THIS. OH, IT LOOKS GOOD. THIS WAS MY FAVORITE ONE. YEAH. OF ALL I REALLY LIKE. OKAY. THAT'S THE LAST ONE. MM-HMM . IT MADE ME, IT MAKES ME HAPPY WHEN I WALK PAST. ALRIGHT. HOW DO WE DO THIS THEN? WELL, BY MY RECKONING, WE HAD SEVEN WORTHY WINNERS. YEP. UM, DO YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH WHO, WHO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDING TO RECEIVE AWARDS? NAME 'EM OFF. SURE. SO, UM, 2 3 5 9 HAMPTON. MM-HMM . UHHUH. 4 21 SOUTH LIVERMORE UHHUH, . 7 8 7 SOUTH J 6 5 7 RIDGECREST CIRCLE. MM-HMM . 6 0 4 HAZEL STREET. FIVE THREE. FIVE FOUR SANDRA WAY. MM-HMM . AND 3 6 0 MCLEOD STREET. MM-HMM . WHAT A NICE LONG LIST. YEAH. AND A VERY, UM, VARIED LIST OF, UH, PROPERTIES TOO. YEAH. VERY NICE. SO THAT'S HOW MANY? SEVEN. SEVEN? MM-HMM . DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY, UH, OBJECTION TO THOSE THAT WE WANNA DISCUSS OR ANY INPUT BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT? OR CHANGES? YEAH. YEAH. SO WHICH WERE THE ONES THAT WERE NOT NOMINATED FOR AN AWARD? LIVERMORE AVENUE AND PALM AVENUE. THE PURPLE ONE. OKAY. YEAH. AND THE ECLECTIC ONE. AND ALSO THE CHATEAU WAY. AND CHATEAU WAY. WE, SHE ALREADY WON, SO I, WE TOOK IT OFF. OH, OKAY. OH, OKAY. . OKAY. SO LET, I PROPOSE THAT WE VOTE, UM, TO AWARD THE SEVEN PROPERTIES THAT THE AD HOC COMMITTEE SUGGESTS FOR BEAUTIFICATION AWARDS FOR 2025. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND. OKAY. . OKAY, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A VOTE. CHAIR BRADLEY. AYE. VICE CHAIR CR AYE. COMMITTEE MEMBER BROWN. AYE. COMMITTEE MEMBER. JEFFERSON AYE. COMMITTEE MEMBER WONG AYE. COMMITTEE MEMBER WEISS. AYE. THANK YOU. I JUST WANNA THANK THE, THE HOC BEAUTIFICATION AWARD COMMITTEE. 'CAUSE YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB. YOU DID, DID A GREAT JOB. KIND OF PUTTING THE, THE CRITERIA TOGETHER AND JUDGING OFF THE CRITERIA AND GOING OUT TO LOOK AT THE PROPERTIES AND, UM, THE PICTURES. YOU GUYS FOUND SOME REALLY GOOD ONES. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WELL, THANK YOU. THANKS TO, UM, MARISSA FOR GETTING THE ADDITIONAL PICTURES BECAUSE UH MM-HMM . OF THE SNAFU AND THE WEBSITE. THANK YOU. [5. COMMITTEE REPORTS AND MATTERS INITIATED BY STAFF AND COMMITTEE] SO MOVING ON TO, UH, 0.5 COMMITTEE REPORTS AND MATTERS INITIATED BY STAFF AND COMMITTEE. I CAN GO THROUGH THE LIST THAT I HAVE ON THE PROPOSED AGENDA FOR NOVEMBER. UM, WE ARE GOING TO HEAR FROM [00:55:01] THE OTHER RESIDENT ON THE TREE APPEAL. 6 9 1 SOUTH SOUTH L STREET, I BELIEVE. YEAH. UM, WE ARE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING SOME VOLUNTEERING OPTIONS. UM, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND RESIDENTS ARE, UM, INTERESTED IN MORE VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UH, LITTER COLLECTION. AND SO WE'RE GONNA BRING THAT TO YOU GUYS, UH, NEXT MONTH. UM, THE RULES OF PROCEDURE THAT WE HAVE HAVE NOT BEEN UPDATED, UH, ADOPTED BY COUNCIL SINCE 2022 AND BACK IN EARLY 2024, WE MADE SOME CHANGES TO THEM, BUT THEY WERE NOT ADOPTED. OH REALLY? AND SO, UH, BY THE CITY COUNCIL. AND SO, UH, THEY HAVE TO ALL BE ADOPTED AT THE SAME TIME, I BELIEVE. AND THERE ARE SOME MINOR CHANGES TO THOSE SINCE OUR DISCUSSIONS BACK IN 2024. SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE DISCUSSING THAT NEXT MONTH AND I WILL BE SENDING THOSE OUT AHEAD OF TIME SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THE RED LINES. UM, THEY'RE VERY MINIMAL FROM, UM, THE COUNSEL AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE. UH, IN ADDITION TO THE RULES THAT WERE CHANGED, UH, IN 2024, UM, WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THE BEAUTIFICATION AWARDS AND THE ANNUAL UPDATE AT CITY COUNCIL. UM, THAT WE'LL BE GOING TO CITY COUNCIL, I THINK NOVEMBER 24TH. AND THEN WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, UM, HAVING TRICIA COME DISCUSS THE HEAT MAPPING, BUT SHE WON'T BE BACK YET FROM MATERNITY LEAVE. SO LET'S, UH, WE'LL HAVE TO PUSH THAT INTO 2026. UH, AND THEN JUST TO FAST FORWARD TO DECEMBER AS WELL, THIS COMMITTEE HAS NOT HAD BROWN ACT TRAINING SINCE MARCH, 2024. AND IT'S AN ANNUAL REQUIREMENT. SO, UH, MOLLY O'TOOLE, ONE OF OUR ATTORNEYS WILL BE BACK TO GIVE A TRAINING IN DECEMBER AND THEN IT'LL BE AN ANNUAL TRAINING IN JU JUNE BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN LOTS OF TERMS, NOT, NOT CURRENT COMMITTEE MEMBER TERMS, BUT GENERALLY ALL THE TERMS ARE UP ON IN JUNE. SO THAT WOULD BE GOOD TIMING FOR THAT. AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS THE 2026 MEETING DATES IN DECEMBER AS WELL. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD INTO NOVEMBER? I WONDERED IF STAFF WOULD GIVE US AN UPDATE AS TO WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE WINE BARREL. OH, PROJECT. YEAH. MM-HMM . UM, DO WE HAVE ON AN AGENDA FOR THE COMMUNITY SERVICE AWARD AWARDS? THAT WOULD BE DECEMBER. THAT'S DECEMBER. YES. MISSION DEADLINE. AT ONE POINT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT SOME COURT OF A HOLIDAY THEME AWARD. UM, SO I HOPE THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH TIME IF WE'RE THINKING OF DOING SOMETHING FOR WINTER HOLIDAYS TO DISCUSS IT NOVEMBER 5TH AND GET THE INFO OUT. I THINK IT WOULD BE, BUT I THINK IN THE PAST WE'VE DONE, UM, LETTERS, UM, NOT, NOT AWARDS, BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE'VE SUBMITTED INFORMATION TO, UM, THE CITY SAYING THAT WE LIKE THIS PARTICULAR, UH, LIGHT SHOW OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, THAT THE LIGHTS AND THEN THEY WOULD SEND A LETTER OUT. THAT'S WHAT HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE. THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT HAS TO BE DONE AGAIN, WHERE WE ACTUALLY JUST SENT LETTERS AS OPPOSED TO HAVING AN AWARD. MM-HMM . YEAH. SO I RECOMMENDATION SHOULD WHATEVER, I THINK WE SHOULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING. DO WE HAVE GOOD IDEA? WE DO. WE HAVE TO, DO WE HAVE TO SUGGEST THAT THOUGH AS AN, AS AN ITEM IN A FUTURE MEETING SO WE CAN GET, DOES IT HAVE TO GO ON THE WORK PLAN? UH, YES. THAT WOULD BE AN UPDATE TO THE WORK PLAN. 'CAUSE IT WOULD BE A NEW TASK. SO IT MIGHT BE KINDA CLOSER THIS YEAR. YEAH, WE DIDN'T, SO MAYBE PUT IT IN, BUT I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR 2026. IS IT IN THE WORK? I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE IN THE WORK PLAN. YEAH. 'CAUSE WE HAVE DISCUSSED IT BEFORE. I THOUGHT WE DID, BUT I'M, UH, LET ME SEE. I REMEMBER, I REMEMBER US TALKING ABOUT IT. YEAH. BUT NOTHING, I DON'T THINK, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T THINK WE ADDED, I DON'T THINK WE ADDED IT TO THE WORK PLAN. WE ACTUALLY PUT A STAKE IN THE GROUND, AT LEAST FOR RECOGNIZE HOLIDAY DISPLAY FOR RESIDENTS. HEY. OH, WE'RE A STEP AHEAD . THAT IS FOR THE DECEMBER MEETING. WELL, YOU WANNA GET THE WORD OUT. I MEAN, I, I WOULD ASSUME WE'D WANT THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AROUND OR SOMETHING. OR THAT WE WILL BE, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD, SHOULD DISCUSS IT IN NOVEMBER. YEAH. WHAT KIND OF I THINK SO PUBLICITY AND, YEAH, WE COULD, YEAH. CAN WE, WE CAN ADD THAT AS AN ACTION ITEM IT FOR NOVEMBER AND WE CAN COME UP WITH A PLAN. MM-HMM . AND I'M GUESSING WE [01:00:01] WOULD AWARD IN JANUARY AT THE JANUARY MEETING BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE AFTER CHRISTMAS. YEAH, WE'D HAVE TO DISCUSS IT. YEAH. OKAY. YES. THINKING EVERYBODY, WE WILL, WE WILL THINK ABOUT, WE'LL DISCUSS IN THE NOVEMBER MEETING. THANKS. , YOU, YOU YOUR HAND UP? ANY MORE MATTERS? OR DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? NO. OH, OKAY. SO IT IS 7 24 AND WE WILL LET ME ALSO, SORRY THIS WAS FOR THE AGENDA, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO GIVE SOME UPDATES. UM, JUST TO CONFIRM WHAT DEBBIE HAD SENT OUT LAST WEEK, UM, THE CITY DOES WANT TO GET ADVISORY BODIES SHIRTS. AND SO THAT IS ON THE, UH, THAT THAT WILL BE HAPPENING SOON. SHE'S GONNA SEND OUT AN EMAIL TO YOU GUYS WITH MORE INFORMATION ABOUT PICKING COLORS AND THE TYPE AND THE SIZE AND ALL THAT. SO SHE'LL BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU. I BELIEVE THE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY WENT OUT. YEAH. UM, FOR WENT OUT YESTERDAY FOR YOUR REVIEW AND SIGNATURE WITH DOCUSIGN TO CONFIRM YOU RECEIVED THAT. UM, CIVIC APPRECIATION DINNER WILL BE JANUARY 15TH, SO PLEASE SAVE THE DATE. IT SAYS 8 25. YES. 2026. THANK YOU. UM, AND THEN THERE WILL BE A NEW PORTAL FOR THE FORM 700, THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST. SO I JUST WANTED OH, GOOD. BRING, BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION. SOMETHING FORWARD TO, YEAH, EXACTLY. OKAY. THAT WAS, THAT'S ALL FROM ME. WHO SENT THIS SOCIAL MEDIA EMAIL? IT CAME FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE VIA DOC DOCUSIGN. IT WAS VIA DOCUSIGN. IT WAS JUST A DOCUSIGN. OKAY. I HAVE TO LOOK FOR, OKAY. IT IS 7 26. WE WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING. IS THAT HARD ENOUGH, ? YEAH. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.